How Much Success Will Alex Smith Have as Chiefs QB?
 

Poll forthcoming.

None.

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Post captures the spirit of the "Smith defense" thread.

At the very best he'll post numbers similar to Cassel's 2010 season. I doubt we ever win more than 10 or 11 games with him, and I doubt we ever win any playoff game past the wild card round (and I'd be surprised if we didn't get curbed-stomped there, too).

Now that I know the parameters I voted divisional loss with wild card win. Although I'd almost rather vote wild card loss.

And I should make the caveat that I don't think the team will actually do that, that's just the best possible outcome I ever see. I think never breaking .500 is about as likely.

he sucks balls and now im not glad this season but now have destroyed feelings.

His favorite flavor of Popsicle is dick.

How can you go wrong voting for a Super Bowl win?

You'd be wrong and stupid when he fails and the team would not have achieved the success you desired.

He'll get this team to the playoffs, and no further.

We're expecting a lot out of a guy who rode the coattails of the #2 defense in his only pro success.

He will not fail. He has a history of being a winner.

And his physical skills are about to start going downhill.

If he can't run he's going to be even less effective.

Never above .500

**** you Dorsey and Reid.

Here's the next four years:

Smith gets the team to 7-9 next year, fans line up behind him en masse.

The team stays 7-9-10-6 for the next three years, fans chase the final piece thinking we're just a CB/G/RT/whatever away. Any attempt to disparage Smith is met with harsh rebuke.

Barbecue smoke fills the air and nary a **** is given about the long term prospects.

He'll struggle this year.

Then he'll put it all together for a playoff loss the next year.

Then he'll struggle some and get boo'd the next year.

Then he'll get injured and replaced, as Reid/Dorsey get fired.

Whomever replaces them will then trade for the league's top backup.

Rinse repeat.

No, he has a 24-game history of being a winner thanks to the #2 defense and a top 10 running game.

QBs who are 2-27-1 against teams that score 24 or more for their career are not winners. They are benefactors of surrounding talent.

WC Loss.

Good enough to get us to the playoffs. Not good enough to beat Peyton or a playoff team.

This is possible but people said this about Casshole after 2010.

A lot is going to be asked of Smith here, more than in SF. I think he might actually be worse than Cassel.

If he's not elite, I hope for your sake he is, it will make it easier to cut the cord sooner.

I voted divisional loss with a wild card win.

The addition of alex smith is going to make your defense better. They will be on the field less. It will keep the turnovers down, your TOP up. Look for your punter colquitt, and Succop to have career years. And no, hes no where near the shit bag that matt cassell is.

You took my post too seriously. Maybe you should give my username a second thought.

lolthankschiefs says it all. :(

Tebow won a play-off game against a decimated Steelers team, so I said "Divisional Round Loss (w/ a WC win)" because maybe we'll get there and luck out. That's the ceiling.

Unlikely though.

Wayback Machine says: "sucking dick for crack".
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The 49ers were 25th in third down conversions last season.

31st in 2011.

Yeah, Alex is awesome.

lmaolmaolmao****ing awesome.
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Our team is an embarassment. What a shit move.

The franchise is an embarrasment. The team itself is pretty talented.
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True, his first year in a new offense with mediocre receivers coming off the lock out. Ill give you all of that. And ill still give you that he only had 7 turnovers total, and never LOST A GAME for his team. In 2012, yes, he lost the giants game, but other than that was playing very very well. You guys act like the chiefs defense is absolute dog shit. Doesnt it reason that with better production from the offense that the defense would be better?

And yet you don't even acknowledge the shitty third-down conversion percentage his second season.

Or the fact he was 1 for 14 on third down in the NFCCG.

He is the kind of QB that gets you beat against elite QBs almost every time.

They will be mediocre most likely, if Alex can't convert third downs.

You are a very uneducated troll and every smart 49er fan that has been watching for more than a year will tell you that.

I didn't even realize before the last 30 minutes that Alex Smith was an abysmal nightmare on third down.

I've only been bitching about that for four years from our shitty QB.

i am amazed at how many of you think this turd gives us a playoff spot, so essentially 9 or 10 wins

ahhahahaha it took the best defense in the league, years to build it, and one of the best coaching minds to finally get this guy to the playoffs after like 6 years. We currently have neither.

hes also like 2-17 when teams score 24 points or more on him

so essentially he cant mount a comeback to save his life and/or score a lot of points himself

aka

garbage

And I'll be no more or less disappointed as a result.

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Yeah, this city is just dying to give a QB a long leash.

:rolleyes:

Im the troll? Try again. Rewrite this garbage, and try to make it coherent. Im sure you are some 49er board douche just coming over here to start shit.

2-27-1.

Last year, he led the come back against the eagles on the road, and the saints playoff game. true, he doesnt lead a ton of big comebacks, but with the way he protects the ball, relies on the run game, he doesnt put your team in a lot of holes to dig out of. but true, if you are down 21 in the first half, the game is probably over.

so like two times out of 30, and the two times came when he finally gets an all world talent defense that is able to hold teams to under a 100 yards, get QB sacks at will, and stop most offenses to 3 and outs, giving Smith more chances than any normal QB would get to redeem themselves

got it


the guy would be nobody and a BUST at his draft slot if he didnt stink up all those years that gifted the 49ers top half draft picks like Aldon Smith, Pat Willis, etc Freaks that fell into their lap because the noodle arm QB carries the team to a 6-10, 7-9 mediocre season

It's true I came here from a very popular 49ers board that was laughing at the trolls trying to give Chiefs fans false hope.

You're not very funny however, I've seen better Ben Stiller comedies than the performance you're putting forth today good sir.

lol Stiller does suck.
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This is very impressive when you consider that Alex Smith "led a game-winning drive for a TD" by completing 3 out of 4 passes for 13 yards.

Thanks, dominant running game!

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im glad all those awful Alex Smith years they were able to use those top 15 draft picks to stack their o-line. really bang up job, i mean eventually there was going to be enough talent to carry the guy to an 11-5 record, I guess. It only took 7 ****ing losing seasons to net 1 winning season

i didnt know i was trying to be funny. I thought i was trying to move away from jackasses like you. At least i had the cuts to state who i was over there. but you keep on hiding troll.....

Rejoice! This trade is great!

Superbowl Winner.

No false hope here. I know what kind of crappy ass qb we just got after watching an abortion for 4 years.

2 winning seasons. he was the qb until week 10 this year. Second, the very first time he got an offensive minded head coach, they went to the nfccg. Im done trying to tell anyone here that its not as bad as it seems. You guys can say what you want, i wasnt here to troll, i was here to be here. But now i have you guys, and former 49er reeruns here messing with me. have at it.

Every time I watched a 49er game when Smith was there, he always seemed to start slow and the offense would suck. I would sit and wonder why they weren't running the ball. Then they would start handing it to Gore and Smith magically would start looking better. The Seahawks at 49ers last year was a perfect example of that.

37 turnovers by your offense last year. 37!!!! If you had cut that number down to say 12, how many games would you have won?

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Let me get this straight....

The people who actually think Alex Smith has a chance to win a ring are JAZ and Bi-Blackman? (plus a couple mults)

Awesome...

Alex Smith gets no credit for the season. Colin took the 49ers to the Super Bowl and put them over the hump. They will be the best team in the NFL for years because of that.

Alex Smith won them their first 7 games of the season, but clearly not only could Kaepernick have done that himself, any slapdick QB would have with that much talent around him.

Alex Smith gets no credit for taking the team anywhere in 2012, because he was ****ing benched, and for good reason, he is not good.

Alex Smith is laughable...

Even Niners fans are laughing at us. They just unloaded their Cassel on us. Alex Smith Fan is probably related to Alex Smith, or the sole member of the Alex Smith fan club, and he admits that the game is over in the first half if you are down three touchdowns. Sounds like we got a real winner. And, people dispute that he is Cassel v2.0 The beauty of last season was that we could turn off the game whenever the Chiefs were down by 10. With this huge upgrade, we can wait to turn off the TV until we are down by 17.

Really? He beat down Aaron Rodgers this year. hes elite. what exactly elite qb did he lose to this last year? He lost to eli manning. how about the year before?

He lost to tony romo, Joe Flacco, and Jake Skelton.

he also beat drew brees head to head, matt stafford.

im not selling a bill of goods. I get it, Alex Smith is not elite. But, no one in the draft was going to be better. sorry that you guys cant see that.

Sure, i will acknowledge that he went 1-13 on 3rd down in the nfccg. I also pointed out that the giants won the super bowl, and destroyed matt ryan, aaron rodgers, and tom brady on the way to that super bowl. Alex Smith had the best rating of any qb vs the giants in the playoffs. Ignore those facts will ya?

Our shittiness should be irrelevant to how much we can possibly improve from this point on. The goal isn't to just be slightly better than last year. Because we could do that without wasting valuable draft picks on other team's castoff QBs. You're trying to lower expectations because of our past performance. But the truth is that our consistently bad past performance with relation to the QB position should actually be seen as even more reason to prioritize the long term establishment of that position. Not to simply get a guy to limp us through the next few seasons. And what we got, is a guy to limp us through the next few seasons. It's a complete disappointment any way you look at it. They went with the safe unexciting move AGAIN.

Sadly, never above .500.

You keep talking about this talent. Would you care to point some of it out to me? I would say as far as skill position players go, that the chiefs are just about as good, if not better than the 49ers.

Compare it, and get back to me. Now, granted the 49ers oline is probably better, but if you look closer at the skill positions, they will be closer than you want to admit.

Holy ****ing shit.

Jamaal Charles > Frank Gore
Dwayne Bowe (a FA right now, BTW) > Michael Crabtree

That's it. At every other position you not only have an advantage, you have a preposterous advantage.

he didnt beat Aaron Rodgers

your 200 yard rushing attack and offensive line beat Aaron Rodgers

all Alex Smith had to do was A) dink and dunk and B) not throw an interception.

But he certainly didnt out duel Rodgers by himself, it took the rest of the 49ers talent to beat him, as usual

you have the best front 7 in the league, and the best o-line in the league

and a good safety duo

we have slap dick sally at CB2, johnny no tackle bum shoulder at FS

a huge void at MLBer, no d-line, potentially an AWFUL INEXPERIENCED LEFT SIDE OF OUR OLINE PENDING THE HORRIBLE MISTAKES THE FO IS ABOUT TO MAKE, and a TE made of glass no RB depth besides our star, a midget, and a first round bust at WR

we are worse

the one skill player 50 percent of our offensive production (90 percent of our passing production) relies on isnt even under contract yet, so cross my fingers and hope they at least do that right

How is it even possible that we are basically trading a 1st and 3rd for Alex Smith?


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Okay, i give in, alex smith sucks you are all ****ed.

I told you your shitty troll wasn't funny.

Season1)played in 9 games,

2)full season(sucked ass),

3)missed 9 games,

4)missed 5 games,

5)missed 5 games,

6)played full season, (17 td , 3000 yards,44 sacks, 7 fumbles 5 picks - a la cassel 2010. cept cassel had 10 more td, less than half the fumbles, and like 20 less sacks)

7)missed 5 games (benched after game 10, played in one other)

again, not trolling. Im rolling with the chiefs, and douches like you, fjrider, harbernick, puckdaddy, your mom, your dad, brentjones84, joe58, hearst, can all go get bent over and get ram rodded with ninercaphells limp penis for all i give a ****. Just let me be. I had a chance to come back, i declined. I want nothing to do with any of you reeruns.

I bet he'll give your guys in the locker room some hope, some boost. Dude is average, but there's no doubt he makes you more competitive.

They even ran the ball on 3rd and 7....

Kevin Kolb would have made this team more competitive. What the **** is your point?

Like Bono, Cassel, and Grbac... he'll make 1 probowl which will be used to keep him around while he never wins anything.

And then Smith's name is proudly etched in the long line of recycled failures in KC of: Cassel, Thigpen, Huard, Green, Grbac, Gannon, Bono, Montana, Kreig, DeBerg and Kenney.

Notice to the other 31 teams, in case you have been sleeping: Send us your broke down and failed QBs, they will always have a starting spot in KC and you will get paid a bounty for them.

Upgrading to competitive status was the point. Dude isn't the Holy Grail, the Spear of Destiny, not even a sliver off of the Cross, but .... well, ahem, er, yeah ok I see your point that I had no point.

Honestly I think the Chiefs will be below .500 for the next two years, and you will see Alex Smith hit free agency.
(If they don't restructure his contract)

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Some of you guys are ****ing pathetic. Seriously.

Alex Smith may or may not lead this team to a Super Bowl but he's not the long-term starter, either, unless he plays absolutely lights out.

Just because Reid and Dorsey are passing on the top QB's available in this draft doesn't mean they're passing in every draft, nor does it mean that they will never draft and a develop a QB.

It just means that it won't happen in 2013.

Reid has never turned a bad QB into a good QB but he does have a knack for getting the most out them. I suspect Smith will be serviceable, the True Fans will all point and laugh and say "see? see?" and the Chiefs will flame out in the play-offs every year.

It's just a prediction... ya know, what the thread title called for?

But the whining and the tantrums? You're going to "follow" Geno Smith now because the Chiefs didn't like him enough to draft him? What the ****? If Smith is a bust, good luck with that.

So many people are acting like petulant children. It's embarrassing for them and it's embarrassing to read.