Dumervil's agent requests release
 

Dov Kleiman ‏@NFL_RealUpdates
The agent of #Broncos DE Elvis Dumervil requested the release of his client since the two sides can't come to terms on a re-worked deal.
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LMAO I'll reinstate Knowmo for a day if he's released.

Awesome.

What do you think about rounding out our 3-4 with one more pro-bowler?

Peytons high cap number ****ing the Broncos like it did with the Colts

He wasn't as effective last year and they asked him to take a pay cut. His agent said that they would restructure but not take less money. There have been rumors that the Broncos would cut him. This is probably either his agent trying to get ahead of the story and make it look like it was their decision if he ends up cut, or to put pressure on the Broncos FO during negotiations.

I'm sure the Eagles will pick him up

Broncos going with freeney instead

That's what I noticed. I think that injury made him lose a step.

Well he's 29 so you wouldn't think he's done. Probably will be his last contract though. Unless that injury continues to be a factor.

And meanwhile PM is one step closer to retirement at which time the Donkeys fall straight to the bottom of the AFCW

Wasn't as effective? He was top ten in the NFL in total pressure.

Peyton's salary ****ing over the team...awesome

It's like the gift that keeps giving.

Maybe the will restructure and be paying him for ten years
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It'll be interesting to see how much more zip he loses on his passes next year.

Donkos only need to sign Marcus Vick to teach Dumervil some manners

*STOMP* No Elvis! That's a bad kitty!

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**** this. I'm going to go on a football discussion forum and post an open letter to Elvis. I'll have it cleared up shortly.

this

I hope they start playing with the cap to keep Manning around and stay afloat.


screw shit up for years

He will be spotted around Denver years after his release.

He will just tell you how much Dumervil is washed up, if released.

If he stays in Denver, Knowmo will tell you that he's the second best pass rusher...of all time!

VonSOMEBODYELSE/ KnowMo

Yes. His spin knows no bounds. It's impressive really.

problem is there are already rumors that ELWAY and Manning will buy the team when Manning retires. Those assholes always **** with the cap
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VONSTUUUUUUUDDDDEEEEEE!!!!

He had a different role last year than he has had in recent years. We have used more of a disguised 3 man front to take advantage of Von Miller, and that doesn't always play to Dumervil's strengths.

Marcus Vick wants his lunch money, Elvis

Actually...no. They are something like $11.5 MIL under the cap. If they release Dumervil and Mays they will be somewhere around $23 MIL under the cap - not including Bruton's salary.

I'd rather you post a live stream of you offing yourself.

Could Hali put on 10-15 pounds and play 1 gap right defensive end?

Sign Dumervil to play ROLB.

Hali, Poe, Houston and Dumervil rushing as a unit would be impressive on sub packages.

no

give your position switch ideas a rest. Next you are going to say Glenn Dorsey can play NT in a 34 and that Jon Baldwin should switch to TE.

I wasn't talking about in base defense, dumbass.

Wait, you mean Joe Mays the "pro bowl caliber" linebacker? And Dumervil- 1/2 of the NFL's most fearsome pass rushing duo?

Why on Earth would you guys let go if these amazingly talented players?

you said "1 gap defensive end" that is what a 1 gap DE is, base defense formation you ****ing idiot troll

Do not want Dumerville. He's injury prone and approaching the wrong side of 30 yo. He's undersized and too easy to run right at. Mannings salary is screwing the donks, as predicted. Now they are gonna bring in a washed up guy that will have half as many sacks as Dumerville did last year. Love it.

I'm sure Knowmo can point us to some super awesome backup they have that would start on every other team. Oh wait....:)

He is lurking.

I want no part of this soft thug in KC.

I hope they do...

Might want to read the part of the post that specifically talks about sub packages...Fool.

Freeney is going to be picked up by the Broncos quicker than Manning could blink.

Cool another soft bitch. Roaf could still own him.

Peyton Choking in the Playoffs last year was an Epic Fail- couldn't have happened to a better team-LOL!!

Sure, it may not be playing to Doom's strengths as much as we did in the past, but name a 4-3 DE that is available that can be used to roll protection away from Miller like Doom does, but still get double digit sacks and be top ten in the league in pressures.

Also, he improved his play against the run to the point that Del Rio left him on the field more than any other DL.

Cutting him would be a mistake, and I honestly don't think the Broncos will.

Dungvers owner is and always was a piece of shit .. hardly ever resigns a player unless they take a big pay-cut .....

Somehow Knowmo will turn this into a positive for the Broncos...

I'm hearing rumors that Freeney might be his replacement. I don't want to see him go either. I think he has improved against the run too, and he has a good skill set overall. As far as total snaps didn't Wolfe top the D-Line though? I thought I had seen that stat last year. Anyway, I guess the Broncos figure that they don't need Dumervil to run their scheme. They think they can get someone else in there to do the same thing for a smaller contract. I was pointing out that this doesn't make him a cap casualty because they aren't up against it. It's just that they don't think he's worth as much to the team as his contract shows.

Doom played 1037 snaps, Wolfe played 1007 snaps.

I just don't understand why he would be worth $14 million last year, but not worth $12 million this year. To effectively replace him, I think they would need to spend more resources than it would be worth. Freeney would be a big downgrade, unless they are changing the scheme to hide his weaknesses. In which case, the whole defense will probably suffer.

OK

Maybe they feel that Von miller has progressed enough that they don't need Dumervil level talent, that Just Some Guy can do the same thing? I don't know. IAOFM is saying that cutting Dumervil would create $8.754 MIL in cap space, here's a piece of an article:

The team currently has around $11.5M in space, while cutting Dumervil ($13.623M cap - $4.869M dead money = $8.754M savings) and Mays ($4,166,667 cap - $833,334 dead money = $3,333,333 savings) would leave them with $23,660,084 in room (minus whatever David Bruton's 2013 cap number is) according to Spotrac's current accounting.

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$8.754 in cap space, and a hole at RDE. A decent replacement there will take up a large portion of that space. So, we'd get what, $4 million in space in exchange for a pretty sizable downgrade? It doesn't make sense to me.

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet Source: Elvis Dumervil is now willing to take a pay cut. His side has exchanged a proposal with the Broncos, hasn't heard back since 4

Couldn't PM throw in a couple BJs?

Updated:

Dumervil’s agent: Pay cut? Not so much…

Douglas Lee Mar 12, 2013 8:37 PM

<article> The Elvis Dumervil story has taken yet another turn, and it doesn't lend itself to the DE remaining in Denver. As reported by Mike Klis:

Magid sent back a proposal Tuesday that lowered his client's asking price from $12 million in 2013, but then added that reduction onto his contract in the form of guarantees for the 2014 and 2015 seasons.

Ian Rapoport says on NFLN that the Broncos now stand a better chance of keeping Dumervil around. We hope that's the case, but will believe it if/when that occurs.

Dumervil's agent, Marty Magid, doesn't sound like someone prepared to compromise:

We're saying the same thing today as we did yesterday: If you can't accept this proposal, then release us. The only thing that's different today is we exchanged proposals. They went up this year and we went down for this year. But they're still trying to reduce the first year of this three-year deal and we're trying to restructure.
We would hope that they feel our proposal puts us at common ground. We're willing to take a decrease this year to help the Broncos make a run at the Super Bowl, and they need to make a decision whether to keep him or not.

It's always about the guarantees in this league, because without them, teams hold all the leverage, as seen in cases like this one right here.
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Dumervil is a good player. But his cap hit was $14M last year which is about $6M too much. The Broncos have probably a two year window to get a SB. You can't be overpaying like that and fix the roster to make it happen.

Elway: Elvis’s salary is out of whack

Douglas Lee Mar 14, 2013 9:15 PM
Kiszla: Elvis Dumervil's clock is ticking, but Broncos aren't budging
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Elway:

"These are the deals that wrench your gut. As an ex-player, I hate to see that. I hated to see that happen to a teammate. And I hate having to do it, in the position I’m in. But I’ve got to do what’s best for this football team."

"It’s not all about dollars. But when it’s way out of whack? Then it’s so out of whack that you’ve got to say: That (salary) can’t be it. Especially when you look at the market and what’s out there now. It’s so far out of whack. Hopefully, he realizes that."

just cheat the salary cap again--give him a shit-ton of deferred money so you can afford to build your stadium again. hell, helped you assholes win a super bowl last time--can't hurt to try it again, eh?

Ah the old skimp the salary cap and vaseline routine. Works well

The good ol days

I'd love to have Elvis crushing Peyton twice a year...

this.

:toast:

He basically has 3 years and 30 million left on that deal and he just turned 29.

I know they can turn around and sign Freeney, Osi or another guy...but I hope they don't trade him and get another first.

Given the deals given out so far in FA for ends, I doubt anyone would want to take on his contract

Unless he agrees to a large paycut he will be a FA tomorrow at like 4

I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all, but Elway has really just taken over the Broncos in a way that I did not expect. Our old GM (Xanders) came across as kind of a dumbass but it seemed to me like the FO was going to be a three headed monster of VP/GM/HC. It's pretty much Elway running the show with guidance from Joe Ellis.

No it was the fact that when the Broncos switched to the 34 under McDaniels is when he flourished but when they went back to the 43 under Fox is when he became mediocre at best. He is a much better player in a 34 scheme.:thumb:

Xanders never was calling the personnel shots. He was strictly a numbers guy taking care of the cap.

If we didn't already have two good rushbackers, I wouldn't be mad if we moved a pick for a guy like Dumervil.

They've been running a combination of fronts. The big thing with Dumervil is that he has a lot of moves he can use from a traditional 4-3 DE spot, but we're using him out wide a lot when we go 4-3, so he's limited. They do it to try to get the opposing offense to slide coverage and widen/open up.

Yeah, McDaniels pretty much just ran him over. Elway called him out on that publicly in a press conference. Xanders did not respond to the challenge and was let go.

Kind of like Pioli, now we have a combo of Dorsey and Reid who are going for it. We may not be a serious contender but damnit theyre trying and thats all i can ask for right now

Sure. You're at the same spot we were a few years ago. Crappy FO is looking like it's fixed, time to build the franchise back up.

I think I heard from a Bronco friend at the office that Elway said that when he took over, the organization was worse than he's ever seen it before.

It's kind of funny. Thinking about Hunt and Bowlen. Neither one of them want to run the team. I saw a pic of our FO after Fox was hired, they were preparing for the draft. Everybody is sitting at table with suits on, ready to conduct some srs bzns. Bowlen is hanging out in a t-shirt and jogging shorts just kind of ****ing around like, "Hey guys. Was the draft today? Holy shit! Are these donuts for anybody or can I grab one of those jelly filled bastards?"

I believe it.

I'll be bummed to see him go if that happens, but if they can get a viable and reliable replacement at a better price point - so be it. There's no doubt he was overpaid.

I'm just curious what the market puts as a price on him if he does become a FA. Would he get that $ elsewhere or possibly just accept lower because he's upset with Denver? I dunno. One might think he could look at the bigger picture of what they're positioned to do and say "I can make this work", but that rarely happens either.

I just don't know if the contract he has now will be out there on the open market.

Michelle Beisner ‏@MichelleBeisner

Source telling me, at this moment, things are not looking good between Dumervil and Broncos. A lot can happen in 39 mins though. #ticktock

Michelle Beisner ‏@MichelleBeisner

Per team source, Dumervil REMAINS a Denver Bronco!!!!

sucks

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer

My understanding is that Elvis Dumervil agreed to a sizable paycut.

Perfect.