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Hog's Gone Fishin 03-15-2013 09:39 AM

Per KFFL /Reid has plans for McCluster
 
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The Kansas City Chiefs are nearing a deal with free-agent OT Geoff Schwartz (Vikings).

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Chiefs | Geoffrey Schwartz visiting
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Free-agent OT Geoffrey Schwartz (Vikings) is meeting with the Kansas City Chiefs Friday, March 15. He is expected to sign with the team.

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Chiefs | Tony Moeaki will be ready for workouts
Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:05:53 -0700

Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid said TE Tony Moeaki (knee) will be ready for offseason workouts in May. Reid indicated the team will using a lot of two-tight end sets with Moeaki and TE Anthony Fasano next season.

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Chiefs | Coach has role for Dexter McCluster
Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:01:29 -0700

Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid said he has plans on how to use WR Dexter McCluster next season. "I like McCluster," Reid said. "I think he's a good football player and he has a role on this football team. I've got some things in mind for him."

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Chiefs | Dunta Robinson expected to be used as No. 3 CB or S
Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:01:01 -0700

The Kansas City Chiefs are expected to use CB Dunta Robinson as the nickel back or a safety next season.

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QuikSsurfer 03-15-2013 09:41 AM

preemptive

**** you, Clay.

Direckshun 03-15-2013 09:43 AM

MY GOD

WHO THE HELL ARE THEY DRAFTING

Direckshun 03-15-2013 09:44 AM

Our OL talent is getting there, now.

Branden Albert
Jon Asamoah
Geoff Schwartz
Rodney Hudson
Jeff Allen
Donald Stephenson

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-15-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9501503)
MY GOD

WHO THE HELL ARE THEY DRAFTING

I'm thinking BPA is gonna narrow it down to Shariff Floyd or Jarvis Jones.

I know I know , Jarvis Jones has a spine problem but I think he would benefit us the most as we need a LB

RealSNR 03-15-2013 09:48 AM

I'm sure Reid really does have plans for McCluster.

"Dexter! Another hoagie, please. This time hold the pickles."

MTG#10 03-15-2013 09:48 AM

Not a surprise, I remember when we drafted him word got out that McCluster was the next player on the Eagles board and they weren't too happy about missing out on him.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-15-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9501515)
Not a surprise, I remember when we drafted him word got out that McCluster was the next player on the Eagles board and they weren't too happy about missing out on him.

And it's probably why Reid wanted the KC job so bad.

L.A. Chieffan 03-15-2013 09:49 AM

We already have the next Desean Jackson on our team, nice!

Marco Polo 03-15-2013 09:50 AM

Q

KCUnited 03-15-2013 09:51 AM

Dip him in ranch?

Fish 03-15-2013 09:51 AM

What's really sad is that McCluster's abilities are such that the coach has to "Find" a way to use him.....

What a waste of a 2nd round pick.....

Mr. Laz 03-15-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9501511)
I'm thinking BPA is gonna narrow it down to Shariff Floyd or Jarvis Jones.

I know I know , Jarvis Jones has a spine problem but I think he would benefit us the most as we need a LB

we need a MLB

Mr. Arrowhead 03-15-2013 09:52 AM

maybe reid doesnt want rookies to have to start right away, maybe he wants to sit and develop. I really can see us going after Jarvis Jones or Dion Jordan who can take over after Tamba gone, also you can never have enough pass rushers.

Fat Elvis 03-15-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9501511)
I'm thinking BPA is gonna narrow it down to Shariff Floyd or Jarvis Jones.

I know I know , Jarvis Jones has a spine problem but I think he would benefit us the most as we need a LB

Reid supposedly loves Ezekiel Ansah.

patteeu 03-15-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9501503)
MY GOD

WHO THE HELL ARE THEY DRAFTING

I guess that means they're not going to draft Robbie Rouse (5-6 190) as a McCluster replacement.

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MTG#10 03-15-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 9501535)
maybe reid doesnt want rookies to have to start right away, maybe he wants to sit and develop. I really can see us going after Jarvis Jones or Dion Jordan who can take over after Tamba gone, also you can never have enough pass rushers.

So you're saying Andy Reid is Dick Vermeil...

suds79 03-15-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9501533)
What's really sad is that McCluster's abilities are such that the coach has to "Find" a way to use him.....

What a waste of a 2nd round pick.....

Yeah at this point it looks like he'll never (or have a hard time) living up to that pick for a situational guy.

But I don't know why we hate on him so much. I thought he adjusted nicely to the slot last year given we didn't have a QB.

I think Dex could be a good slot WR on a good team. Not just the Chiefs.

MTG#10 03-15-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9501548)

I think Dex could be a good slot WR on a good team. Not just the Chiefs.

If Dex played with Brady instead of Welker these last few years Dex would be a star.

suds79 03-15-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9501552)
If Dex played with Brady instead of Welker these last few years Dex would be a star.

Agreed. The guy can catch, is a playmaker and is as quick as they come.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-15-2013 09:59 AM

We need a kick / punt returner that can take it to the house now. Is Cribbs still out there?

QuikSsurfer 03-15-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9501552)
If Dex played with Brady instead of Welker these last few years Dex would be a star.

No doubt about it.

jimw51 03-15-2013 10:07 AM

He needs to be more productive

chiefzilla1501 03-15-2013 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9501533)
What's really sad is that McCluster's abilities are such that the coach has to "Find" a way to use him.....

What a waste of a 2nd round pick.....

Reid seems to have made it clear he has no allegiance to players from the previous regime. It's not like somebody is putting a gun to his head to say this. For him to say this, it means he obviously has an intention of using him, which is more than can be said for Winston or Boss or Cassel.

Easy 6 03-15-2013 10:10 AM

I've always said he would best fit with a guy like Reid, if he's ever going to amount to anything, its going to be now.

Reids arrival is the best thing thats ever happened to him.

suds79 03-15-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimw51 (Post 9501585)
He needs to be more productive

Well if we get better QB play, all of our WRs will naturally be more productive.

Deberg_1990 03-15-2013 10:11 AM

Reid should be able to develop his 360 spin

lcarus 03-15-2013 10:12 AM

I'm rooting for McCluster to produce a lot this season, and I think he can.

ChiTown 03-15-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9501600)
I'm rooting for McCluster to produce a lot this season, and I think he can.

Sorry, but in what role/how?

DenverChief 03-15-2013 10:18 AM

Schwartz is 6'6" 331 - Holy fuck

QuikSsurfer 03-15-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9501533)
What's really sad is that McCluster's abilities are such that the coach has to "Find" a way to use him.....

What a waste of a 2nd round pick.....

How about Baldwin? Our first round pick?

If Dex doesn't do shit this year -- i'll jump off the bandwagon... I think he's going to explode though.

DTLB58 03-15-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9501558)
We need a kick / punt returner that can take it to the house now. Is Cribbs still out there?

Nothing official yet, Cards are hot on his trail.

ChiTown 03-15-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 9501628)
How about Baldwin? Our first round pick?

If Dex doesn't do shit this year -- i'll jump off the bandwagon... I think he's going to explode though.

Baldwin is in a make or break year. He's quickly entering Sylvester Morris territory, without the career ending injuries..

HemiEd 03-15-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. SyphiLaz (Post 9501534)
we need a MLB

Arthur Brown, come on down. :D

keg in kc 03-15-2013 10:50 AM

McCluster plans: use him as a decoy or a dummy on tackling drills.

CoMoChief 03-15-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9501521)
And it's probably why Reid wanted the KC job so bad.

ROFL....yup...because of Dexter ****ing McCluster.

CoMoChief 03-15-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 9501628)
How about Baldwin? Our first round pick?

If Dex doesn't do shit this year -- i'll jump off the bandwagon... I think he's going to explode though.

really? I don't.

He's not fast.

suds79 03-15-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9501778)
really? I don't.

He's not fast.

He's quick. He's going to be a slot over the middle of the field guy.

Assuming we can decent QB play, he'll be fine in that role.

Ace Gunner 03-15-2013 11:00 AM

a dex thread -- oh noes

DaFace 03-15-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9501503)
MY GOD

WHO THE HELL ARE THEY DRAFTING

Isn't it a good thing that we can't tell?

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-15-2013 11:23 AM

I don't believe in Alex Smith, but I still believe in Dexter. The Chiefs can **** you up like that.

Fish 03-15-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9501589)
Reid seems to have made it clear he has no allegiance to players from the previous regime. It's not like somebody is putting a gun to his head to say this. For him to say this, it means he obviously has an intention of using him, which is more than can be said for Winston or Boss or Cassel.

Nobody is forcing Reid to say it for sure. But the fact that McCluster requires a special plan in order to get production just illustrates that he's not a great overall athlete and nowhere near being worth a top of the 2nd round draft pick.

notorious 03-15-2013 11:45 AM

Clay just swallowed the business end of a 12 gauge.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-15-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9501984)
Nobody is forcing Reid to say it for sure. But the fact that McCluster requires a special plan in order to get production just illustrates that he's not a great overall athlete and nowhere near being worth a top of the 2nd round draft pick.

That absolute horseshit !

QuikSsurfer 03-15-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9501778)
really? I don't.

He's not fast.

Dude is crazy quick.. doesn't have great top end speed but you'd be a fool to deny he is quick.

patteeu 03-15-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9501984)
Nobody is forcing Reid to say it for sure. But the fact that McCluster requires a special plan in order to get production just illustrates that he's not a great overall athlete and nowhere near being worth a top of the 2nd round draft pick.

I don't think the fact that a specially talented player requires a special plan to maximize production necessarily says that (e.g. Colin Kaepernick). In McCluster's case, since we already have several years of data, you may be right about his worth though.

Frazod 03-15-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 9502029)
Dude is crazy quick.. doesn't have great top end speed but you'd be a fool to deny he is quick.

Yeah, I really love that spin move he does right in front of defensive lineman - right before the lineman lifts him off the ground, crumples him into a tiny lump of fail and tosses him at the referee's feet.

warrior 03-15-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9502093)
Yeah, I really love that spin move he does right in front of defensive lineman - right before the lineman lifts him off the ground, crumples him into a tiny lump of fail and tosses him at the referee's feet.



LMAO

Fish 03-15-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9502082)
I don't think the fact that a specially talented player requires a special plan to maximize production necessarily says that (e.g. Colin Kaepernick). In McCluster's case, since we already have several years of data, you may be right about his worth though.

The difference is that SanFran has a special plan for Kaepernick because he can do things that other QBs cannot. The Chiefs need a special plan for McCluster because he's incapable of doing things most RB/WR can do(running between the tackles, breaking arm tackles, outrunning coverage, out jumping defenders, beating one-on-one coverage, etc.).

That's not saying he's worthless. But as a gadget guy, his versatility isn't worth a high 2nd round pick...

Fish 03-15-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 9502029)
Dude is crazy quick.. doesn't have great top end speed but you'd be a fool to deny he is quick.

That's just Ol' Miss homerism....

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 01:04 PM

**** you McCluster.

This will be your end.

Deberg_1990 03-15-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9502093)
Yeah, I really love that spin move he does right in front of defensive lineman - right before the lineman lifts him off the ground, crumples him into a tiny lump of fail and tosses him at the referee's feet.

Reid should be able to help him develop that move.

Ace Gunner 03-15-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9502093)
Yeah, I really love that spin move he does right in front of defensive lineman - right before the lineman lifts him off the ground, crumples him into a tiny lump of fail and tosses him at the referee's feet.

ah, so snotty drafted a candy wrapper. how ironic.

keg in kc 03-15-2013 01:21 PM

I'm trying to think of a player that gets crushed more often and more spectacularly than McCluster and I'm drawing a blank.

TimeForWasp 03-15-2013 01:31 PM

I'm in on Dexter

DeezNutz 03-15-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9502093)
Yeah, I really love that spin move he does right in front of defensive lineman - right before the lineman lifts him off the ground, crumples him into a tiny lump of fail and tosses him at the referee's feet.

Tiny lump of fail. LMAO.

Good looking fat kid in your avi, dude.

Marcellus 03-15-2013 01:48 PM

We all know DMC is the only reason Reid came to KC, he was still smarting over us taking the little bastard ahead of the Eagles.

RealSNR 03-15-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9502176)
I'm trying to think of a player that gets crushed more often and more spectacularly than McCluster and I'm drawing a blank.

Dante Hall didn't get nailed as often as McCluster does, and he was the primary kickoff and punt returner PLUS a huge contributor on offense.

Half of that's on Cassel, but the other half of that's on McCluster being a dud.

QuikSsurfer 03-15-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9502093)
Yeah, I really love that spin move he does right in front of defensive lineman - right before the lineman lifts him off the ground, crumples him into a tiny lump of fail and tosses him at the referee's feet.

BASTARD!!!

QuikSsurfer 03-15-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9502129)
That's just Ol' Miss homerism....

ROFL

*sigh* ... you're probably right.

keg in kc 03-15-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9502287)
Dante Hall didn't get nailed as often as McCluster does, and he was the primary kickoff and punt returner PLUS a huge contributor on offense.

Half of that's on Cassel, but the other half of that's on McCluster being a dud.

Remember the early Dante days, when he was at running back and his primary play was burying himself up Tim Grunhard's ass?

That backfield with him and Mike Cloud should've been called "Colo-Wrecked-Em!"

Pasta Little Brioni 03-15-2013 04:36 PM

Going to have a Sproles like impact in Reid's offense :evil:

bevischief 03-15-2013 05:01 PM

BBQ him.

Easy 6 03-15-2013 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9502832)
Going to have a Sproles like impact in Reid's offense :evil:

I almost get the general sense from your last few posts on the matter that you actually believe that.

I've sincerely tried to like him, figure out whats good about him, what his strengths are as a player and its pretty hard to come up with much... he's such a niche player.

Good - his initial five step quickness is better than average, he does get to his top speed in short order, he doesnt try to dance much, usually gets it upfield as quickly as possible and takes whats there. His hands are good enough for the short, close to the LOS pass game. He can get it outside on a well executed run play.

Bad - while his quickness is good, it easy to want more of it from a guy his size, its nothing all that special imo, you'd also expect a bit more top end speed from that size, dude has no second gear. Gets arm tackled constantly, doesnt have enough wiggle for a diminutive back and hasnt shown enough power to help make up for that lack, constantly gets muscled out of catches, forget about consistently effective blocking with that size, chronic fumbler.

He's a flyweight, one cut and go runner with limited top end speed and very little power behind that, who thus far hasnt shown he can be an effective, down the field route runner and receiver.

Not trying to single you out for a bloviating lecture LMAO, its just that the more i see, the less i like this guy as a player, its like you gotta use him just so, gotta have a special plan for him, if he had one real brilliant attribute it'd be different for me, but he sure doesnt seem to and hasnt shown it yet... i'd rather keep Draughn than this guy for sure.

Having said that, if anyone is going to solve his riddle, its Andy Reid, he's always had a fetish for wiry little scatbacks... i hope it works, hope i'm wrong, if i am i'll dutifully eat my helping of crow.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-15-2013 05:56 PM

Dex is gonna rape

SAUTO 03-15-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9503020)
Dex is gonna rape

AlexSmith fan's mom
Posted via Mobile Device

Pasta Little Brioni 03-15-2013 06:00 PM

without a rubber

threebag 03-15-2013 07:36 PM

Andy Reid and DMC live together in perfect harmony.

MahiMike 03-15-2013 07:56 PM

Let the bets begin!

milkman 03-15-2013 09:45 PM

I love how a guy that's made 2 plays in 2 years gets called playmaker.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 09:53 PM

Reid might accidentally eat McCluster one day.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9503004)
I almost get the general sense from your last few posts on the matter that you actually believe that.

I've sincerely tried to like him, figure out whats good about him, what his strengths are as a player and its pretty hard to come up with much... he's such a niche player.

Good - his initial five step quickness is better than average, he does get to his top speed in short order, he doesnt try to dance much, usually gets it upfield as quickly as possible and takes whats there. His hands are good enough for the short, close to the LOS pass game. He can get it outside on a well executed run play.

Bad - while his quickness is good, it easy to want more of it from a guy his size, its nothing all that special imo, you'd also expect a bit more top end speed from that size, dude has no second gear. Gets arm tackled constantly, doesnt have enough wiggle for a diminutive back and hasnt shown enough power to help make up for that lack, constantly gets muscled out of catches, forget about consistently effective blocking with that size, chronic fumbler.

He's a flyweight, one cut and go runner with limited top end speed and very little power behind that, who thus far hasnt shown he can be an effective, down the field route runner and receiver.

Not trying to single you out for a bloviating lecture LMAO, its just that the more i see, the less i like this guy as a player, its like you gotta use him just so, gotta have a special plan for him, if he had one real brilliant attribute it'd be different for me, but he sure doesnt seem to and hasnt shown it yet... i'd rather keep Draughn than this guy for sure.

Having said that, if anyone is going to solve his riddle, its Andy Reid, he's always had a fetish for wiry little scatbacks... i hope it works, hope i'm wrong, if i am i'll dutifully eat my helping of crow.

Dex was clearly overdrafted, but I think he'd make an excellent 4th receiver.

In a pinch, he could start a few games a year in the slot.

I mean he's better than having some Bobby Engram brokedick out there for sure.


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