Peter King: Chiefs will listen to trade offers for Albert
 

Duno if this is a Q...and it is from King, but hello LT at #1.

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Not sure if this is big, breaking news but Peter King says Chiefs will listen to trade offers for Albert http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...ack/?mobile=no …

Damnit....1 minute.

I think most of us assumed this was already the case.

I think it's also relatively commonly known that the Chiefs want Albert re-signed.

Joeckel, Joeckel Joeckel!!!

yay for the soft bitch

Dorsey has said they want Brandon Albert as our LT unless he is just lying too us. I believe him.

If they are gonna take Joeckel or Fisher anyway, they might as well trade Albert.

I can't believe they lost all of those games and aren't even gonna benefit from the top pick.

King is full of it.
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And off ****ing course, anyone will listen to trade offers.
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OBVIOUSLY this has to do with Albert not wanting to play anything but left tackle.

use this reasoning people

What would they do trade Brandon Albert for a top 10 pick and we take Joeckel and Jarvis Jones for OT bookends? It's going work out great to break Alex Smith. er break him in as our new quarterback yeah..

Here come the Heckle and Jeckel crowd again...

This.

And King is just ****ing speculating.

I think it could be Fisher, Fisher, Fisher.

Peter King did sit down with Dorsey for a hour last night.

Damnit don't waste the top pick in the draft on a ****ing tackle.

This was one of my first thoughts when we tagged Albert. I figured it was a strong possibility we would try to trade him. All signs have been pointing towards us taking a OT at 1.1. By tagging Albert, we controlled his rights for a trade instead of just letting him walk for free.

Assuming QB is off the table, what player or position would you be ok with?

Im not a big fan of it either, but if hes a good player, and we get high production out of him and win games, how is it a waste?

Seriously: trading Albert for a pick and drafting a new tackle at number one is the equivalent of trading down for no compennsation - and that's assuming the drafted tackle pans out. It wouuld be stupid.

Can we just let this develop? This could be a ploy to either show Albert his value so he lowers his asking price, or to open up trade offers for 1.1. And if a team wants to give up a lot, then pull tthe trigger, by all means.

King didn't even say it was according to a source. Pure speculation. Nothing to see here.

If we draft Jarvis Jones to play OT, I'm done with this team forever. You can hold me to this.

He talked to Dorsey last night.

trade back for multiple picks obviously.

And if you cant trade?

Tackles are not game changers. They don't win games for you. They don't take games over.

With pick 1:1 you get a game changer or you trade back.

Because we already have someone that can play the position at a high level. Replacing Albert with a rookie at 1.1 doesn't make the team better.

How do you figure? If Albert wants a contract averaging $10 mil a year or more, and you can get a good 1st rounder for him that is a win.

At 1.1 Fisher gets $5.5 mil a year and then at 1.15 (or something around there) you get another good player and you freed up almost five mill a year for another position.

I've thought this was likely for awhile. If they planned on keeping Albert long term he would have been locked up while they were throwing money around like candy

Sure it saves you some money, Clark, but the fans are interested in the team getting better.

So why didn't he say according to Dorsey or a source? Because maybe he is afraid to put words in his mouth?

Also, why in the world would Dorsey tell anyone they will listen to trade offers for Albert? That would severly damage their trade down potential if teams knew they were without a doubt not taking a QB.

Not really, as long as Jacksonville keeps making it known they are VERY interested in Geno.

All he said they would listen that doesn't hurt KC at all.

Well maybe if we spend less on the LT we'll be able to afford a quality RT too. If we trade Albert and then draft an OT were basically trading one OT for another. And there is a chance the guy we draft could prove to be a long term upgrade. I'm fine with keeping Albert but I don't see what's wrong with trading him to save some cap space while trying to improve the whole team. It might not workout then again it just might. If we would have just let Albert walk and drafted an OT at 1.1 that would suck.

jarvis jones would be a SHITTY OT, what with the spinal stenosis and his best abilities being PASS-RUSHING.

There is nobody in front of us. Who we want has no bearing on a trade market. Who Jacksonville and Oakland want does.

As a franchise player we'd be entitled to 2 #1's. Why wouldn't we listen to a 1&3 offer or something?

8 years and only two 16 game season for Alex. Chase has a chubby.

Chubby Short Chase has a short chubby.

Exactly. We could end up with two 1s and three 3s in the draft if that deal were done. Then if we could move that 1st pick we'd be rolling in daft picks. With the tackle market what it is I don't think there's any chance somebody trades for Albert though so:shrug:

I'm in the Geno at #1 camp, but if that is not going to happen, how about something along these lines...

Albert to Miami to replace Long for their two 2nd rounders, #42 and #54.

Buffalo trades up to #1 for Geno, and we get #8, #41, and at least a #1 in next years draft.

That gives us...

#8 (1st)
#41 (2nd)
#42 (2nd)
#54 (2nd)
#63 (3rd)

A team source tells the Miami Herald the Dolphins plan to replace departed LT Jake Long via free agency.
In addition to its alluring tropical climate, cap space apparently grows on trees in Miami. If free agency is indeed the Dolphins' plan to replace Long, it's a bit puzzling because the left tackle market has been picked clean, and they're in prime position to select a new blindside protector at No. 12 in the draft. It means the Dolphins are comfortable with second-year pro Jonathan Martin at left tackle even though he struggled mightily in Long's absence last season. The Palm Beach Post reported Sunday free agent Eric Winston would be an option if Long left town. Winston would be cheaper than Sebastian Vollmer or Andre Smith.

Agree with Phil. I'm not saying it is optimal, but getting a 1st for Albert is NOT complete failure. Brandon Albert is good, but he is not irreplaceable good.

Yeah, I saw that. But from most of the mocks I have seen, most of the OT's are gone by the time Miami would be picking at #12.

Just something I threw out there... :shrug:

Don't worry.... until they get a QB they will lose plenty more.

BUT, we'd be the only team in the NFL with a pass rushing OT.

He's going to blow around the end of the line and sack the MLB. The Falcon OT

I'd rather go with the guy who has already proven himself in the NFL.

I have a hard time believing that Reid and Dorsey are going to trade that much for Alex Smith.....and then protect him with a rookie LT and who knows what at RT.

I don't think it's PK that's full of it. It's obvious in his column today he talked to Dorsey at the League meetings this weekend. He told him something. But then again, IMO, if you are a good GM you will always listen about any player, if someone gives you the farm.....

This. If there truly are no injury concerns I'd prefer to go with the player we know.

If we aren't going QB at 1 (and we aren't) I really want that trade down...

Or Peter King thought he heard something and then decided to include it in his column.

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"You wouldn't say that to my face would you?" - Big Willie

He was also picked 8th overall.

He "thought" he heard something?

I would think that with this guys contacts he isn't gonna throw just anything out there and piss Dorsey off if he wants another sit down with him.

Cool

He's not pissing off Dorsey by not quoting him. If he had come out in the article and quoted Dorsey....then yeah....he'd have a reason to get pissed. He just speculated and threw some basic ****ing knowledge against the wall.

Guess what.......EVERY team would listen to offers for ANY player on their roster.

Man this would suck ass.

You can't lock people up unilaterally.

I understand this statement but it is not totally accurate. No we don't see LT's out there making big plays, but if your LT is shutting down the other teams best Passrusher, removing one of the other teams best players he is "taking over a game".
Derrick Thomas was a game changer because of what he could do to the QB. Any LT that can shut down a player like Derrick are game changers as well. We just don't see it like that because they are not in a "playmaker" position and or there is not a stats category to show their importance in the same manner.

This seems so obvious.

I guarantee you that the Chiefs were waiting to see what someone like Jake Long got in FA. That pretty much sets the value for Albert.....and now if they want....they could offer him a little more money. Somewhere between Long's deal and Brown's deal is fine with me.

How many times per year does a team face a Derrick Thomas caliber pass rusher?

The number of times in the season a team needs an elite LT instead of just an adequate one are few.

That's great....until you factor in that a team can just move their best pass rusher to the other side and negate your LT.

OMG! Now we need a #1 RT too!

And I wouldn't be surprised if that's what they're doing.

Alex Smith takes a TON of sacks...and that was with the offensive line that the 49ers had (3 1st round picks).

I think that's why LT money hasn't gone up as much as some LTs had hoped it would, while RT money is closing the gap. With the way TEs are more involved as receivers and moving from side to side these days, as opposed to usually being in tight on the right side where they can help the RT, pass protection is becoming a more important RT skill.

But what if they move their pass rusher between your guard and center!!

Fixed your question.

Thank you. It's about beating playoff teams in the playoffs.

Unfortunately, this also begs the question "How often does a team with two elite tackles and a mediocre QB beat an elite pass rusher in the playoffs?"

Ge-no! Ge-no!

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All picks to OLine!!

The reason tackles, especially LTs, have to be so good at what they do is because they're on the end where all they have outside of them is open space. Guards and Centers just have to be a brick in the wall. RTs have typically been able to get away with lesser pass blocking skills because they have an extra guy, the TE, on their outside who can help solidify that edge. You probably already know this, but just in case you didn't, there it is.

Diesnt make any sense.

Dorsey would say they are listening to trade offers BECAUSE THEY ARE. I don't like Peter Pioli any more than the rest of us, but I doubt he would outright lie about something like this.

I think the elephant in the room is the age of our core players.

Yeah, this team does have a lot of talent but it is no longer young. Our best players were drafted under ****ing Herm. Bowe, Albert, Charles, Flowers, DJ, Hali - They probably won't be here in 4 or 5 years.

Alex Smith is a "win now" move. I think Dorsey/Andy want to make a push before the core of this team is over the hill...

Where is the direct quote that he said exactly that?

When does a team not listen to a trade offer?...

Exactly. Give up three 1st rounders and you can pick damn near any player off any team.

As the old joke goes, "We've established what you are, now we are just bickering over a price."

Are you suggesting that Peter ***** had a sit down with John Dorsey last night and after that sit down, he decided to fabricate a story? The same rumored story that has been going around for months...

Im not buying that.

John Dorsey has said that even if they sign Albert, they could still take Joeckel snd play the best 5 linemen. After that, Albert reiterate that he wasn't willing to play anything but left tackle and then deleted his twitter account.

They are shopping Albert.

One of four things is happening here:

1) Alberts back truly is a concern
2) Albert wants more than market value
3) they see Joeckel as a full blown elite talent and are wanting to upgrade/save on the cap/add another first.
4) they want Albert to be able to negotiate with other teams so they can tell him what THEY think he's worth.

There is NO CHANCE that there is this much smoke without a fire burning.