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Fire Me Boy! 03-19-2013 08:46 AM

Reid says Geno not out of consideration for No. 1 overall
 
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Andy Reid says he'll evaluate 8-10 players for No. 1 pick. Asked why Alex over Geno Smith: "Doesn't mean Geno is out of the water." Smiles.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-19-2013 08:46 AM

More Geno threads!

Fire Me Boy! 03-19-2013 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9513185)
More Geno threads!

It's my first! PBJ

Mr_Tomahawk 03-19-2013 08:47 AM

oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.

ThatRaceCardGuy 03-19-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9513190)
oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.

Exactly.

ptlyon 03-19-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9513190)
oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.

No. Hes. Not. :deevee:

Dartgod 03-19-2013 08:49 AM

http://kentuckybasketballforum.com/u...s-a-chance.jpg

Pasta Little Brioni 03-19-2013 08:50 AM

Alex
Chase
Geno

mr. tegu 03-19-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9513198)

LMAO

MahiMike 03-19-2013 08:51 AM

or IS he?

:Peace:

DMAC 03-19-2013 08:52 AM

Oh Andy you sly badass you.

Molitoth 03-19-2013 08:52 AM

As much as I want it to happen, it's not going to.

Chiefs=Champions 03-19-2013 08:55 AM

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BigCatDaddy 03-19-2013 08:57 AM

Such as dick tease.

Chiefspants 03-19-2013 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9513190)
oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.

Actually, the claims over Joeackelele were the red herring. GENO FO LIF

Graystoke 03-19-2013 08:59 AM

First I am hard, then I go limp....NOW I AM HARD AGAIN!

okcchief 03-19-2013 09:00 AM

Stop playing with my ****ing emotions Andy Reid!!!!

:)

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-19-2013 09:01 AM

Yeah, lets draft a player that won't even see the field. Dumbasses !

Pasta Little Brioni 03-19-2013 09:02 AM

If it happens it really would be the...best...offseason.....EVER!!

mdchiefsfan 03-19-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9513236)
Yeah, lets draft a player that won't even see the field. Dumbasses !

I'd do that sooner than draft a damn RT

jspchief 03-19-2013 09:02 AM

I still believe Geno is a possibility. ASmith is only inked for 2 years. Until that changes, I believe he could be meant to hold the spot while Reid develops Geno.

I think its possible that contract talks with Albert will be the compass for what the team does. If they feel like they can get him for what they want to pay, they examine positions other than T at 1.1

Do I think Geno is top of their board at this instant? No. But I don't believe they have decided yet what they will do, and it hinges on several factors.

RealSNR 03-19-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 9513187)
It's my first! PBJ

Alright! C'mere, son! Let me buy you a beer!

mr. tegu 03-19-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9513236)
Yeah, lets draft a player that won't even see the field. Dumbasses !

In a real QB competition Geno beats Alex Smith.

RealSNR 03-19-2013 09:04 AM

Hopefully this "evaluation period" is when Reid figures out that Joeckel actually sucks.

Thig Lyfe 03-19-2013 09:08 AM

We have a bad track record when it comes to fat coaches smiling and/or winking coyly about drafting a QB.

DTLB58 03-19-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9513243)
In a real QB competition Geno beats Alex Smith.

You know, this may be true. But did you see the man love Andy showed for Smith at that presser?

Plus, the Chiefs did not give up the picks they did to bring in a rookie for open competition. Especially, after Andy said at that Presser "Listen, Alex Smith is the starting QB of the Kansas City Chiefs".

Fansy the Famous Bard 03-19-2013 09:09 AM

Just to stick it in our craw, they'll draft Geno... then 30 minutes after drafting him we'll find out he's been traded.

MOhillbilly 03-19-2013 09:12 AM

Please god let us trade out of the 1-1 and get value, please!

splatbass 03-19-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 9513228)
First I am hard, then I go limp....NOW I AM HARD AGAIN!

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Chiefspants 03-19-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9513268)
Just to stick it in our craw, they'll draft Geno... then 30 minutes after drafting him we'll find out he's been traded.

This forum would implode via shots of antifreeze in this scenario.

splatbass 03-19-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9513243)
In a real QB competition Geno beats Alex Smith.

No one knows that. No one can know that.

seaofred 03-19-2013 09:14 AM

Guys, I think Reid just said that to help with a trade down. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see it.

Saccopoo 03-19-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9513236)
Yeah, lets draft a player that won't even see the field. Dumbasses !

In all honesty, drafting an OT (Joeckel/Fisher) doesn't mean that they are going to see the field anymore than drafting Geno. Albert is definitely going to play and Stephenson has all the tools. (IMO, if Big Don stayed in school this past season, there wouldn't be any Lane Johnson talk at all. Stephenson is a very athletic, big and talented OT. He'd be in the discussion for the top tackle taken this year if he was in this draft class.)

Besides, Smith does have the concussion issue and is 29 years old, and we all know that Daniel is a third string guy. Period.

Drafting Geno gives Reid and Alex Smith the chance to mentor him for one or two years without the pressure of having him produce right from the get go.

Remember this guy named Aaron Rogers who kinda sat behind this other dude for a couple of years and then kicked ass? Same situation.

Deberg_1990 03-19-2013 09:15 AM

I anxiously await the first "Why not Chance Warmack at #1?" thread......

Dave Lane 03-19-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9513199)
Alex
Chase
Geno

Geno
Alex
Chase

Fixed it

Dave Lane 03-19-2013 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9513282)
I anxiously await the first "Why not Chance Warmack at #1?" thread......

Just take a Chance!

Saul Good 03-19-2013 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9513268)
Just to stick it in our craw, they'll draft Geno... then 30 minutes after drafting him we'll find out he's been traded.

We'll trade Geno and a third rounder to Oakland for their third overall pick so that we can draft a LT.

Messier 03-19-2013 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9513243)
In a real QB competition Geno beats Alex Smith.

Geno has a stronger are, and is probably more athletic, other than that, I don't know this to be true at all.

keg in kc 03-19-2013 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9513190)
oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.

Yup.

splatbass 03-19-2013 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9513281)
Daniel is a third string guy. Period.

Period? Really? He was second string in NO and is currently second string here.

Hyperbole doesn't serve you well.

ChiefMojo 03-19-2013 09:18 AM

Just stirring the pot for a trade down.

That smiling/smirk of his gave it away imo.

Saccopoo 03-19-2013 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9513282)
I anxiously await the first "Why not Chance Warmack at #1?" thread......

See this?:

http://www.thesraid.com/wp-content/u...ngxmastree.jpg

It's a flaming AIDS tree. Take a branch and shove it up your ass.

MMXcalibur 03-19-2013 09:19 AM

I can't take this. I'm putting football on the shelf until the end of April.

dallaschiefsfan 03-19-2013 09:20 AM

Posturing aside, I can see this happening. If they don't get a good offer to trade down, why not take Geno? He will probably be as valuable on our QB depth chart as he is when he gets drafted in most cases. Hell...think of the stupidity of those that would trade a high draft pick for Mallet (or Alex Smith :banghead:). Who knows what we might get offered for Geno (or Chase or Alex) next year prior to the draft. I hope we collect QB's that other teams might want. It's the currency of the NFL. Andy Reid IS the guy that turned Kevin freakin' Kolb into a 2nd round pick (and DRC). So yeah...draft Geno if nobody gives us what we think the 1.1 pick is worth.

Saccopoo 03-19-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9513291)
Period? Really? He was second string in NO and is currently second string here.

Hyperbole doesn't serve you well.

Hyperbole is my life philosophy.

And he's a giant ball of midget suckery.

This was the New Orleans QB lineup last year:

http://losersbracket.com/wp-content/...lipopGuild.jpg

InChiefsHeaven 03-19-2013 09:24 AM

If we draft Geno after all of this (and I can't see a good reason not too) I will be full on hard core homer mode!!

RealSNR 03-19-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9513291)
Period? Really? He was second string in NO and is currently second string here.

Hyperbole doesn't serve you well.

2nd string QBs on great QB teams:

Jim Sorgi
Curtis Painter
Graham Harrell
Matt Cassel

And the list goes on and on.

Teams do that because when you have a franchise starter (like Brees in New Orleans) it does little good to invest all that much money or that high of a draft pick in your backup. It's not a universal strategy, but it is quite common.

And we just gave one of those turds a bunch of money to actually play in the event of an injury to Alex Smith (which tends to happen every season, if only for a few games).

Dave Lane 03-19-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9513291)
Period? Really? He was second string in NO and is currently second string here.

Hyperbole doesn't serve you well.

He's hot garbage may not even make the team if we draft Geno.

Saul Good 03-19-2013 09:26 AM

Let's look at it from Andy Reid's perspective. If he thinks Alex has the goods and he sees nobody worth the 1.1 pick, and nobody wants to trade, he should take Geno and just sit him for a year or two while talking him up.

If Alex is good enough for an extension, he can probably trade Geno down the road for at least a first rounder and change. Look at what he got for Kolb.

Discuss Thrower 03-19-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9513312)
Let's look at it from Andy Reid's perspective. If he thinks Alex has the goods and he sees nobody worth the 1.1 pick, and nobody wants to trade, he should take Geno and just sit him for a year or two while talking him up.

If Alex is good enough for an extension, he can probably trade Geno down the road for at least a first rounder and change. Look at what he got for Kolb.

Thisthisthisthis.

RealSNR 03-19-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9513311)
He's hot garbage may not even make the team if we draft Geno.

Baby Ricky says, "That's MY 3rd string spot, bitch!"

Direckshun 03-19-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9513198)

There may never have been a more appropriate use of that quote.

silver5liter 03-19-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9513288)
Geno has a stronger are, and is probably more athletic, other than that, I don't know this to be true at all.

Hes got a stronger arm, more athletic, better accuracy, better decision making. Other than that though, idk

Saul Good 03-19-2013 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapist (Post 9513309)
2nd string QBs on great QB teams:

Jim Sorgi
Curtis Painter
Graham Harrell
Matt Cassel

And the list goes on and on.

Teams do that because when you have a franchise starter (like Brees in New Orleans) it does little good to invest all that much money or that high of a draft pick in your backup. It's not a universal strategy, but it is quite common.

And we just gave one of those turds a bunch of money to actually play in the event of an injury to Alex Smith (which tends to happen every season, if only for a few games).

Aaron Rodgers
Philip Rivers
Steve Young

Saul Good 03-19-2013 09:29 AM

Why does everyone talk about Geno being a better athlete than Alex? He isn't. Alex is an excellent athlete. Geno isn't.

Messier 03-19-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapist (Post 9513309)
2nd string QBs on great QB teams:

Jim Sorgi
Curtis Painter
Graham Harrell
Matt Cassel

And the list goes on and on.

Teams do that because when you have a franchise starter (like Brees in New Orleans) it does little good to invest all that much money or that high of a draft pick in your backup. It's not a universal strategy, but it is quite common.

And we just gave one of those turds a bunch of money to actually play in the event of an injury to Alex Smith (which tends to happen every season, if only for a few games).

Why is Daniel a turd?

Saccopoo 03-19-2013 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9513325)
Why does everyone talk about Geno being a better athlete than Alex? He isn't. Alex is an excellent athlete. Geno isn't.

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1...t_1__super.jpg

DTLB58 03-19-2013 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9513293)
Just stirring the pot for a trade down.

That smiling/smirk of his gave it away imo.

DP was talking this morning how the Browns screwed up not getting RG3 and now how he is hearing how the Browns are verrrry interested in Geno....

Saccopoo 03-19-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9513326)
Why is Daniel a turd?

Because he's 5'3", 317 lbs. and sucks.

That's a hot turd.

Messier 03-19-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9513320)
Hes got a stronger arm, more athletic, better accuracy, better decision making. Other than that though, idk

I'd argue better accuracy and decision making. Why is Geno better?

RealSNR 03-19-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9513326)
Why is Daniel a turd?

He's a mystery box. Until we open up that box and find out what's inside, it must be assumed that Chase Daniel is both a turd and not a turd.

But undrafted guy from spread offense with inadequate height and arm strength? Most likely a turd. Russell Wilson he ain't.

Hell, Doug Flutie he ain't.

RunKC 03-19-2013 09:34 AM

Reid playing the smart move to get a trade down. Nice!

boogblaster 03-19-2013 09:34 AM

ok ... Reid isnt taking Geno ... he's taking a OLman ... so cry yourselfs to sleep .....

Messier 03-19-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9513332)
Because he's 5'3", 317 lbs. and sucks.

That's a hot turd.

Can't argue that well reasoned argument.

Discuss Thrower 03-19-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9513330)
DP was talking this morning how the Browns screwed up not getting RG3 and now how he is hearing how the Browns are verrrry interested in Geno....

KC ----> Gets #6, #68 and a 2014 Second Rounder ... and maybe Colt McCoy (zomg UT and MU QBs.. Big12 pride)
CLE ----> Gets #1 ???

Contrarian 03-19-2013 09:35 AM

I don't understand why you guys think we would move down to accumulate later draft picks when we acquired two compensatory picks already. one in the 3rd and one in the
6th.

silver5liter 03-19-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9513325)
Why does everyone talk about Geno being a better athlete than Alex? He isn't. Alex is an excellent athlete. Geno isn't.

Geno only runs faster, jumps higher, and jumps further. You're right.

Saccopoo 03-19-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9513333)
I'd argue better accuracy and decision making. Why is Geno better?

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_as...513/genoo8.gif
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359053441
http://i.imgur.com/mSm0b.gif

Messier 03-19-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapist (Post 9513336)
He's a mystery box. Until we open up that box and find out what's inside, it must be assumed that Chase Daniel is both a turd and not a turd.

But undrafted guy from spread offense with inadequate height and arm strength? Most likely a turd. Russell Wilson he ain't.

Hell, Doug Flutie he ain't.

I'm not arguing he's starter material, but he was considered one of the better FA backup options. He's a preseason warrior. I know that doesn't mean much, but I think my reasons for why he's a good viable backup option, makes better sense than some here and the argument that he sucks, because he sucks.

ptlyon 03-19-2013 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9513346)
Geno only runs faster, jumps higher, and jumps further. You're right.

It's the shoes

The Franchise 03-19-2013 09:45 AM

Andy Reid heard the comparison of Geno Smith to Donovan McNabb and he got hard.

Messier 03-19-2013 09:46 AM

Hey, some gifs of some good throws by Geno. Have any of his bad ones? How about a gif of him pouting on the sideline because they're losing?

I'm sure there are some comparable highlights of Alex Smith from college.

The Franchise 03-19-2013 09:48 AM

Alex Smith:

40 - 4.71
Vertical - 32
Broad Jump - 9.4

Geno Smith:

40 - 4.59
Vertical - 33.5
Broad Jump - 10.4

Mr. Laz 03-19-2013 09:51 AM

means nothing ....... either way


we have no idea what they are really thinking. Their moves indicate OT at #1 but who the hell knows.

What any team says at this time of the year is worthless.

The Franchise 03-19-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9513383)
means nothing ....... either way


we have no idea what they are really thinking. Their moves indicate OT at #1 but who the hell knows.

What any team says at this time of the year is worthless.

All of their moves do not indicated OT at #1. It indicates that they really want to trade down.

Direckshun 03-19-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9513370)
Andy Reid heard the comparison of Geno Smith to Donovan McNabb and he got hard.

That is creepy and weird.

jd1020 03-19-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9513386)
All of their moves do not indicated OT at #1. It indicates that they really want to trade down.

However, there are no indications that a trade down is even possible.

Saccopoo 03-19-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9513372)
Hey, some gifs of some good throws by Geno. Have any of his bad ones? How about a gif of him pouting on the sideline because they're losing?

I'm sure there are some comparable highlights of Alex Smith from college.

Boo ****ing hoo.

And just to let you know, I'm a big Alex Smith fan going back to his college days. He's pretty athletic, accurate and very smart. He protects the ball well in the passing game.

However, he has limited arm strength that doesn't allow him to take the top off the defense and throw the receiver open.

He's the same guy as Sam Bradford. That's it. And he's most likely maxed out, i.e., what you saw in 2012 from Alex Smith is as good as it's ever going to get.

Geno has the ability to rip off 45 yarders into double coverage and put it right into his receivers hands. He does it regularly. With pressure. Alex Smith cannot make those throws. He doesn't make those throws. He's a dink and dunk game manager. Period.

And he doesn't make many bad throws whatsoever. All of his passes from 2012 are on YouTube. Go watch the complete games from the entire season. Geno does as good a job protecting the ball in the passing game as I've ever seen anyone do at the college level.

suds79 03-19-2013 09:57 AM

Can we just put this Geno stuff to bed? It's a done deal.

The Chiefs have made their evaluation of him. They don't think he's worth #1. There's a lot of fans here who do. Or think it's worth the risk.

Now we just sit back and find out over the next few years.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-19-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9513282)
I anxiously await the first "Why not Chance Warmack at #1?" thread......

Where have you been? We've already had it.


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