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Mike Tomlin: Read-Option is "Flavor of the Day"
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Tomlin's plan for stopping the read-option is simple. Injure the QBs.
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Hes right about this:
"We'll see if guys are committed to getting their guys hit" |
Tomlin is right.
And since The Chiefs are still stuck in 80's style football, perhaps the read-option will have come full circle by the time the chiefs move to it. |
Doesn't his QB run a lot and gets hit a lot?
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Don't let Thomlin fool you. When the other boys in kindergaten put their dicks in the guppie tank, he did too.
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Tomlin should probably worry about his own mess.
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Think Tomlin is one of the best coaches in the nfl, ill trust his judgement.
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Count me as another brick in the Tomlin is spot on wall... throw your option QB out there to the wolves, and we'll eat eat him, thats an AWESOME football statement and probably exactly how teams will attack it in the future... **** you Goodell, you cant change everything right away.
The read option will mostly die out just like the wildcat did, a gimmick is a gimmick, unless you have some custom made, physical find like Kaepernick able to execute it consistently without getting killed... its worthless. Ultimately, dropback passers rule, if you cant do that... forget it. |
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Sweet Jesus I think I love this man.
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we'll see
the Redskins version of the read-option is a flavor of the month, I do agree but the way the Seahawks and 49ers simply work it in is here to stay Russell Wilson is literally the perfect QB. |
LMAO
Mike Tomlin is ok. I have a hard time giving too much credit to a guy who took over that Steelers team. Pretty sure Ben Roethlisberger and a team loaded with defensive talent could have made me look good as a head coach. |
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I guarantee he is considered the best QB in football within the next 2 years. I think he wins a Super Bowl next year. |
Seahawks go 13-3 next year, at worst, and Russell Wilson wins Super Bowl MVP.
He MAY even battle for regular season MVP as well... |
When I saw Hootie had commented in this thread, I knew he'd be fellating Russel Wilson LMAO
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You have to give the nod to the 9ers as far as expectations in the NFC next season, but I'd put the Seahawks right behind them. Then probably the Giants, the Pack (solely because of Rodgers), and the Falcons bringing up the rear.
Barring a huge turnaround, which is actually very likely, everyone else is just fodder |
If I were a betting man, I'd say the Seahawks take home 11 wins next season, give or take 1. 13-3 at worst is just a bit too steep for me. They'll have two games against the 9ers and I wouldn't count the Rams as easy Ws either. I think Fisher will probably bring them to a respectable 8-8 next season. I haven't looked at the rest of their schedule, but 13 wins is just tough. Really tough.
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Not a Thomlin fan. Playing Big Ben when he was hurt and having already had who knows how many concussions. With shit for backups. When the Chiefs go through everyone else's castoffs for years? Not a fan.
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it's tough to defend that shit if done properly. That is why Tomlin is pissed. Brady and Manning aren't just automatically winning every game these days. Football is football though. I thought the Ravens would be done quickly last year and look at what happened.
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I do think the 13-3 Seahawks thing is possible. Wilson is really much better than people expected. Tomlin seems like a cool guy overall, but the we're gonna hit you shit is laughable, that IS the ****ing game.
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I'm not so sure the read option is just a fad. Considering how ingrained the option is at the college level now and how the 2000's rule changes have seemed to put a premium on offensive skill players at the expense of the trenches, I don't really see mobile QB's and the option falling out of favor in the NFL anytime soon.
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I think read option can be viable with the right guy. Wilson is a good example. He just seems to have a knack for avoiding big hits. He is shifty enough to get a lot of glancing blows and he gets out of bounds a lot.
RGIII is the antithesis. Dude is always getting lit up. He won't last running the offense they tried to run last year. Kaepernick is somewhere in the middle. I still think you're taking years off a guy's career by running the read option, though. Look at the shelf life of NFL running backs vs. quarterbacks and tell me how often you REALLY want your QB running the ball.... |
Tomlin's absolutely right. If your QB is a ball carrier, he's not going to last long. Every decade or so, a guy comes along (or in this case, 3 guys come along) and everyone declares that the game has changed-but it hasn't really, not for long. Just go ask Randall Cunningham, Mike Vick, and RGIII. NFL really does stand for 'NOT FOR LONG' if you're going to subject your QB to that kind of abuse.
Scrambling to buy time for receivers to clear is one thing. Carrying the ball through the line of scrimmage is another entirely. These guys will not last long like this. |
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There's no way for a defense, which is by it's very nature reactive, to deal with a true 11 on 11 situation; for the defense to have any chance at all, one of those guys has to be taken out of 'coverage'. When the QB can also run, we see the results; trying to put a spy on him puts everyone else at a decided disadvantage. There truly is only one solution to the numbers game - raw deterrence. Sure - run your QB. We're going to !@#$ him up. Tomlinson's absolutely right. Once again - there have been plenty of great young running QBs. There are very few great old running QBs. |
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But like you say/allude to, even with guys who have the knack... its just a matter of time before they get hulk smashed, and thats really not something a team should want to build their offensive philosophy around, because its going to cost dearly at some point. To me, the best bet is just have your passer pass and only run it when a play breaks down or a no-brainer opening manifests. |
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I think within two years there will be a debate between who is the best between two QB's...Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers. |
Tomlin has other worries: Who is Ben raping tonight?
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Russel Wilson within the next two years: http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/293/tombstonecv.jpg |
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This. He is right about the read option though. As soon as someone gets their clock cleaned big time it will come to an end. Plus next year defenses will have prepared for it. |
The Seahawks run the read option about 8-10 plays per game, they just work it in to keep the DE on his heels, I think it's brilliant personally, and Russel is extremely good at it.
The Skins and Niners run it too much IMO.. I would love a Superbowl rematch with the Steelers. |
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He had 99 problems but an option ain't one
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later on Tomlin said *Sniff Sniff* STANK.......Hambone.
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Sure.. Any one system that relies solely on a limited factor will fail.. It will evolve in the NFL to a just more mobile pocket passer, especially with what the rules allow..
They said the same thing about any mobile QB ever.. Yes, having your QB get 800+ yards rushing will limit his career.. But most of those guys will adjust.. Kind of like the Pats and Steelers have adjusted with their QBs and systems.. |
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Mike Shanahan, speaking to reporters at the NFC coaches meeting on Redskins’ offensive system:
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WaPo comment: In other words, Bob, "you're on your own..." LOL |
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