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10 Keys to Success or Failure for the 2013 Chiefs
I think this upcoming season is filled with as much intrigue as any in the last 10+ years because of all the uncertainty at so many positions. I truly believe this team can be anywhere from 5-11 to 13-3 depending on how these factors play out...
1) Alex Myths ability to handle the workload that Andy Reids offense will demand. If he is able to continue the efficiency he had when be was throwing less in SF, but add to his attempts...he has a chance to help us win a lot against our schedule. Alex was on pace for a 26 touchdown and 3500 yard year in an offense that he would have been around 425 pass attempts the whole year and Andy will probably want another 100 pass attempts to be added to those. If he can't handle it and Andy Reid scales things back a notch we will still end up 7-9/8-8...but if he IS able to handle it and maintains the effectiveness he had last year with increased attempts, he could have a big year and guide us to a lot of wins. No doubt. 2) The defenses ability to take advantage of the scheme that should be predicated on getting more pressure than in years past by attacking more and sitting back less. Our linebacking corps are gonna straight up rape faces in this scheme. The players ability to change their mentality in how to play defense across the board is a huge factor...especially how soon they "get it" because this team can't afford to get into an early hole in the win loss column. 3) The usage of Eric Berry. I put this high on my list for a reason...the guy has been used incorrectly all three years in KC and if he is used correctly he should be an absolute game changer. This "third linebacker in the nickel" stuff needs to get gone and stay gone. This guy destroyed worlds at Tenneesee by taking the ball away and making huge hits and when Kiffen got there, be changed all that and Eric has been used that way ever since. The way we have used him has completely nullified his playmaking ability and speed in the center of the field. We need to have that ballhawk back there intercepting passes and taking them to the house, not playing in the box most the game. 4) Sean Smith and Dunte Robinsons ability to play effective coverage. This is another situation similar to that of Alex Myth IMO...in that it can go drastically good or bad. I think we will score some points this year and those two will be under pressure. These two can make the secondary a strength or weakness. 5) Jon Baldwin taking to coaching and starting to realize his potential. This kid has amazing upside, but at the moment he looks like a bust. I think this is a career defining year for him. If he is able to become a solid #2 that can make some plays for us, this offense should start to be fun to watch. If not, this will likely be his last year in KC. 6) The fringe guys from the last two years drafts starting to show up and play at an effective level. Guys like Powe, Hudson, Allen, Bailey, Stephenson and Brown. All of those guys have potential to be quality starters or valuable role players if they can take to new coaching. They also have the potential to all need replaced for varius reasons. 7) Andy Reid molding his playcalling to fit the talent we have on board and not trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. I think he can push Alex Myth to 500 pass attempts, but not much more. If we can have a 50:50 split or maybe 55:45 in favor of the pass, I think we can win games...if be tries to throw it 35 times per game...I'm not sure we can be as effective that way. 8) The tight ends living up to their billing. We have a chance to have one of the best TE groups in the NFL if Kelce and Fasano can bring to the field what they do on paper. This Kelce kid is huge and moves very well and seems to have very good hands and instincts...a real player if he can develop his skills and stay out of trouble. It speaks to the talent of the position group that Moeaki may be the third tight end. They should be able to help seal the edge with Eric Fisher and, a few plays later, catching a couple big yardage passes. If Kelce is as good as some think, we may really have something to see on offense. 9) The defensive line being able to generate pressure and get a push. Guys like Jackson, Bailey, Poe, Powe and Devito need to be able to take advantage of linemen trying to keep the linebackers in check. If we can get this position group to play with some intensity, this defense could be just nasty. If they aren't able to do so, teams will control the LOS on us and dictate the tempo. 10) Someone stepping up on special teams and becoming a playmaker. We have the coach that can design the plays to help our return game, but someone needs to step up and fill the role of Arenas while giving us some homerun ability. Maybe Wylie will be that guy...sure would be nice to have a threat as a returner again, it's been awhile. |
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I could have said "good post" after reading this but the "Alex Myth" schtick is so ****ing stupid. It's lame, immature, not funny whatsoever, and not even remotely witty.
So it really ruined the whole post for me. |
A Dexter McCluster free thread! YES!
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Alex Stiff Alex Biff Alex Shit Alex ****face Alex Dildo Alex Smith sucks so much his weiner gets pulled in and out his anus Miserable piece of shit Mormon bastard |
well at least those aren't nearly as gay as using 'Myth' as his last name.
Truly ****ing stupid. |
I'm an Alex optimist, and even I don't think we will get an entire 16 games out of him. If we do, I think we could very well be in the 11 win range, but that concussion and injury history just worry me.
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What a couple of ****ing pussies...
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So to sum it up, if our QB plays well, our defense plays well, and our special teams plays well, we might have a chance at winning some games.
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I haver always hated the name change shit
aniyou think it makes you look clever but I think it makes you look like a 4 th grader this goes for all forums, and talk radio losses my respect they have re yet to earn if tythe best you giot uis name calling stfo and shfu |
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Somewhere between 5 & 13, because his scientificness narrowized the rangeitude |
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This is a really great post.
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I made this thread to show the areas that will effect the outcome of the upcoming season because I feel they are the keys to the upcoming year...but let's make this about me and not the actual topic and chose to hurl insults instead of adding to the conversation. Thanks. |
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I would like to note that Pat Kirwan once said that you're allowed two ifs. If you go to three, you're probably hoping for too much.
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Dunta is the one I'm concerned about... Guys his age can fall off any minute, and he wasn't exactly lighting it up last year. Quote:
It's encouraging he's slotted as the #2 right now, and that Avery is healing so he can stay there all preseason and get the reps we need him to get. Quote:
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I love Donnie Avery as a return dude. Wylie seems great for punt returns, if he can stay on the team. |
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Credit where it is due. |
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I guess I enjoyed the read more than you, but yes, I was also thinking the "Myth" thing as very lame and lessened the overall post. |
I think Poe is one of the most important players on defense. If he's solid to great then that will be a big for our defense being top 10, if he sucks then our defense could struggle again. Poe needs to be a force against the run and generate pressure against the pass.
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Thank you for this. I enjoy actual football posts and not just bitching. I want to see Powe on the field more. It seems he his more suited for the nose than Poe but we'll see I guess.
.........and here comes the bitching |
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As for the OP. It was nice to see a well thought out post for once. |
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Time for some of these guys to put up or be gone. |
The "Myth" in your concept is that Berry should be a ball hawking free safety.
He isn't and doesn't look like he can. At the college level, under Kiffin, his athleticism, which borders on elite, as well as Kiffin giving him the ability to wander in the defensive backfield gave him the ability to put up numbers like he did in college. But, in two years of playing time at the NFL level, he hasn't shown the ability to be able to effectively cover guys in passing situations. And it's not just Antonio Gates in his rookie season. Teams constantly send tight ends his way when he gets caught in man coverage around the box and he doesn't seem to be able to effectively keep himself between the receiver and ball, falling behind the route runner routinely. His athleticism is somewhat nullified at this level where most guys possess high levels of athleticism and speed, but he does show a willingness to come through traffic and find the ball carrier. I think he's a very good strong, in-the-box safety, but simply hasn't shown the instincts to be effective in a free safety/centerfielder role. As well, I don't think that there is any mythical numerical level of passes where A. Smith is going to fall apart and collapse under the pressure. Five more passes a game. Big whoopee doo. All he needs to do in this offense is do what he did the past two seasons at SF - high percentage, ball/time control passes/completions getting the ball into our playmakers hands. You want Jamaal and Dwayne and Dexter and such making the most out of their abilities. You want the offense to maintain a decent time of possession. You want that absolutely sick linebacking corps fresh to be able to make the big plays late into the fourth quarter. And I think that's exactly what you are going to see. Smith fits this offense quite well and I'm not going to sit here and freak out about worry about if the guy can make an extra five passes a game over the course of an entire year. |
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It doesn't speak to the level of talent that Moeaki is the 3rd TE. It speaks to the fact that he's injury prone as shit and is never on the field.
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Guys, all we gotta do is score more points than the other team!
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Hopefully, by the time training camp comes around he is ready to go and can stay healthy this year. If so, we should be able to have some interesting goaline formations the next couple seasons. |
McCluster is the new Sproles :)
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I have no doubts that Andy Reid has plans on how to use Dexter, but I wouldn't exactly call the situation exciting. |
I'm as numb to this season. As a coroner at his 320th(regular season games since a playoff win) autopsy.
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Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down never gonna agree with GoChiefs and hurt you |
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I wrote that just for clay. |
I don't think Allen, Powe, Bailey, or Jackson will be anything more than role players. And I think Baldwin's garbage. I don't think any of these guys not being successful will hold us back that much. INcidentally... don't think any of these guys not being big contributors holds us back.
And I think you put too much stock on Alex Smith. I don't think Alex Smith can bring us to a Super Bowl. But the team is talented enough to be a playoff contender with him, which I guess defines "success." Alex Smith isn't nearly as bad as critics want to make him out to be. He will get us winning again, just not winning the big games that people like me and you want. |
I like the look of our defense except for the DL. We've got have Jackson and Poe step up and get some push up front or we're ****ed.
Same goes for the receiver's not named Dwayne Bowe. I hope Donnie Avery and Jon Baldwin do enough to demand respect. |
We really need to limit the turnovers this season. Of course, you try and do that every season, but you just can't expect to win games when your piece-of-shit QBs account for 30 TOs themselves. On the other side of the field, we need to do a better job of taking the ball away. I'll be hoping for more pressure on the QB with tighter coverage to lead to more INTs and sack-strip fumbles.
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I'd like to put him at FS and see if his instincts can lead to some turnovers.. |
10 Keys to sucess
1-10 Alex Smith is a badass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9plNqVr2qRo You shits don't even deserve him |
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"Alex Dildo" is ****ing awesome. I inadvertantly discovered "Axl Reid". I like that a lot.
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We deserve so much better. As do our good players who will now retire ringless due to a never ending shit parade of cock gobbling passers suffered throughout their entire careers. We wasted Jamaal Charles on Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, Matt Cassel and Alex Smith. Life's a bitch and then you die. |
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I apologize to all the Mormons on this board who read my comments. It was rude of me to even suggest that a walking vomit stain such as Alex Smith was associated with your kind. I'm sorry. |
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I was drunk last night when I posted. Here are my thoughts:
1. Don't think Smith or Dunta matter. CBs don't win championships. These guys are adequate enough 2. A lot of Eric Berry's problems might be mental. Don't know about Sutton's scheme, but he'll get Berry, DJ, etc... to play with their head on straight 3. Disagree on Baldwin's upside. He's garbage 4. Your rant about Alex Smith is turning into an unreasonable criticism of the Reid way. Reid wants to run a lot of spread and it seems clear he wanted that regardless of who our QB was. That's a good thing -- he's adapting to the game 5. You focused too much on defensive talent. That's not going to matter nearly as much as the scheme. I don't know if Sutton can run Rex Ryan's defense, or if Ryan is the pure brains behind it. If he can run it, it's intriguing and our personnel is a hell of a lot better to handle it than New York's 6. You have to define what success and failure mean. I think getting to the playoffs is a success. 3 years from now, it means getting to the Super Bowl. Alex Smith, for as much as you criticize him, is good enough to help us get to the playoffs and gives us an outside shot to win a playoff game. He's probably not the QB who takes us to a Super Bowl |
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You Alex Eeyores crack me up. :spock: |
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Just why should we expect anything great out of Alex MYTH? I've seen his play and honestly not impressed. Why can't chiefs thrive to find something better, if not in this draft next draft? The success is going be dependent on Alex Smith ability to get rid of the ball in a timely and precise manner to the WRs that can do something with the ball. Keeping Alex Smith healthy and upright and from taking too many sacks is also going be a big challenge for them. |
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You are honestly one real dumbass muther. |
Can we please just change his name to Halfwit, and be done with it.
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Now we get the Best QB we have had in here since what.. Green and Gannon possibly- and all people do is call him a dildo, shit stain, homo, myth, puke, ect ect. People can keep posting stats from the past proving he is going to suck- but the name calling is grade school- have some ****ing class for once. |
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Day after day I sign on here and read threads of Alex getting called names. Most agreed he was the best option- but yet they are piling on years of QB failures on him and he has not even thrown a pass for us. Like I said have some ****ing class!! |
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Alex Smith among the bottom 5 in red zone efficiency over the last two years, which is one of the reason their kicker broke the record for FGs in 2011.
Assuming Smith makes the play that wins that SB is Halfwit moronacy at it's finest. |
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So when he starts to suck like so many retreads before him I wont expect you to call him names because you are above every one else on this bored. |
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What a stoopid post. Fisher has not even played a game. We have seen what Donald can do and he is not even close as good as Albert- not to mention a #1 pick. He you like the kid- no prob- and you HOPE he is going to be better than the other two. Highly unlikely. But that is your opinion- based on Zero facts- but it is your opinion. Most people on here including my self respect your opinion- most of the time you are spot on. So why don't you be more of an example when it comes to Smith. He is are QB now- and the trade, the past ect is over. You dont have to like it- or support him or the chiefs. But why be a negative classless asshole and attack anyone that hopes he brings some wins to our team. Have some class for once Milk. Or just STFU |
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:doh!::doh!::doh!: I hope to hell he is bad ass- but haveing the fumbling turnover machines out of town that we have had under center- by default will make him look like a badass. Just so he doesnt fumble the game away like cashole did against the ravens. That is automatically a 50% increase in wins-LOL I am sure you and most on here hope he sucks so you can say- see we were right and really call him some horrible names- pretty pathetic from so called chiefs fans. |
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If you really think he deserves to be called puke and a shit stain- that is just uncalled for. :shake: |
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He is puke & or shit stain until he proves on the field other wise. I hope he proves he is better than that. I hope he proves to be better than TrInt Green. I hope he proves to be better than any quarterback we have had the last 40 years. Prove it on the field then he can be deserved to be called his name. No not his fault blame the franchise for not learning from past mistakes. |
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I believe that Smith will struggle mightily in Andy Reid's system if Reid and Pederson fail to adjust the system to mask Smith's limitations. I also don't believe that Alex Smith's efficiency will take a hit if the system is adjusted, even if he attempts substantially more passes than he has in his last season and a 1/2. I believe that the Chiefs can win a lot of games with Smith at QB is a syatem adapted to fit his strengths. However, if the system isn't adjusted, this could easily be a 5 win team, at best, if Smith is asked to do the things he isn't capable of doing. But at the end of the day, I don't believe there's any way that Alex Smith can lead a team to a SB with his limitations. And when it's all said and done, I am too ****ing old to care about winning a lot of games if none of it leads to winning a SB. |
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I did start my own thread..:evil: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=271151 Any one can feel free to come into that thread and call Alex Smith what ever you want. |
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I was a season ticket holder for the DT years- when we had the Best D in football- but could not get a first down to save our life. And all through the Trent and Priest years when it was just the opposite. I sat out there in heat one game and then the next week with a sunburn and practically got flooded down the stairs-lol So I am a "True fan" which is now considered a bad thing. I have been to more games than years most on here have been alive-lol Its great to run your mouth as an expert- but if you were not at the Ghost town arrowhead of the 70's and 80's you cant appreciate how fun it was in those two periods for the chiefs fans. I want the same thing as you- a SB win- or for gods sake a playoff win would be a start. But for next year an Improvement of the miserable year last year- would be.... 1. Alex not turning the ball over and at least putting this team in a position to be competitive in every game. It will take the whole team to win- I agree that he has not shown to be a "franchise' type to put the whole team on his back. 2. Not geting our asses handed to us by the faiders at home for the how many times in a row- truly pathetic- and yes I was at the home openers we lost with fader fans dressed like darth vader screaming in my ear. 3. Not getting blown out in our Home Opener. If you cant come out and have some fire the first game- forget it. The Bills blowout was the worst game I have Ever attended. **** the Bills. 4. Arrowhead coming back to what it used to be. Fun, Loud, a tough place to play for the other team. Hell rookie QB's were winless there for years. Bring back the Leaf Factor. Yes I was at that game when the chiefs put him into retirement and onto a life of crime. 5. A hard hitting, tough team, that nobody wants to play. The DT years teams dreaded playing us- ask the Bills on Monday night- still one of the greatest games I was ever at. We embarrassed them. Ask Steve Young who DT hit so hard he was puking on the field. I want to see some smart hard hitting football. If we do these five things- we have a chance at the division and then a playoff win ect. Something to build on for the future. So call me a halfwit and stoopid muther whatever. But I have been there for this team thick and thin since I was a kid- and i hope to hell we are back on track to being respectable again. |
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That isn't intended to be an insult. It is simply an observation of your style. And yes, I recognize that my responses are also juvenile in nature. |
[QUOTE=milkman;9690503]Sorry, Half, but I struggle with mature and reasonable posting when I see the juvenile nature of posts like yours.
That isn't intended to be an insult. It is simply an observation of your style. And yes, I recognize that my responses are also juvenile in nature.[/QUOT Yep you are right- when I see things swing soo far to one way like it has with the Alex trade- I tend to jump on the other side to level things out-lol I would think the "bad ass" stuff people saw through that as my way of showing their opinion was equally absurd- but they took it as I was his biggest fan. I was on SNR's Geno band wagon briefly until it became obvious he was far from a #1 pick. This was a terrible year to get ANY QB let alone a future Brees or Rogers. Time will tell in the draft. Some wanted us to draft Bray as a QBOTF- and we picked him up for nothing. So all in all we upgraded our QB position accross the board form the absolute worst in NFL history to being competitive at least. What more could we do This year?? I was Not happy at all bringing in another stop gap- but it was pretty much their best option. My point was why call Alex every name in the book? It is childish and after so many weeks has grown repetitive and annoying. I will try not to stir the pot so much-lol People dont seem to realize when I am being just as absurd as they are- but on the opposite side. I will be glad when this board balances out some and a few posters take their meds and simmer down with the hate-lol I will try not to be soo positive either- it definately gets on peoples nerves-lol |
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There's really 2 keys to the success of this team.
1. Alex Smith needs to continue to improve on his recent NFL success. I personally don't think he'll be anything great, but as long as he's not Matt Cassel, or Brady Quinn we should be putting up more pts on the board. 2. Injuries. There are areas where this team doesn't have a lot of depth. If any of the following players are hurt we're probably screwed big time... Eric Berry Brandon Flowers Justin Houston Tamba Hali Derrick Johnson Jamaal Charles Dwayne Bowe This team can be anywhere from a 8 to 11 win team, probably get a WC spot at best, I don't see us beating Denver sadly. |
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People, including NFL personnel people, were looking at this QB draft through a prism skewed by last year's draft, and to a certain extent, by the previous draft. I have always, and still, believe(d) that you take a QB high if you believe he has all the physical tools to be a franchise QB. I don't believe that NFL personnel people think that Geno Smith lacks the physical tools. Their questions were of the "Is he ready to start day one?" variety. I don't think there's any question that he has all the phsical tools, and if he needs a year or 2 of seasoning on the bencch, so be it. I take him 1.1. |
I think you pretty much nailed the areas that most of us will be watching in pre-season.
Couple of random comments. Andy Reid likes Alex Smith, and he made Kevin Kolb look like a rockstar. I don't know if Alex Smith can stay healthy or sling the rock in an Andy Reid offense, but Andy Reid thinks he can. And he definitely bought the beef to protect him. I wasn't a fan of the trade at all, but it's what we got. Go make it work. I like it when our defense gets to the QB. I find joy in seeing quarterbacks get hit. Hopefully the new scheme helps us get there early and often. As long as they don't have Berry covering Gates by himself, I'm good. Jon Baldwin ... Play good football. Lotta big dogs up front, including the tight ends. Hopefully they are hungry. One circus catch in the endzone and has been on IR ever since. I am ready for a dominant D lineman, like hall of fame dominant. With all the high draft picks we spent there, we deserve one. Will the scheme help? Will Poe break out? Tune in next week. |
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I was down on the chiefs as bad as anyone on here. With the murder suicide and the fan upheaval- I don't think I have seen a team sink so low. But I think Clark did everything he could to turn it around. i dont knwo what else besides drafting different people he could have done?? |
Dawson was technically a retread. That's what they are searching for, the next great retread.
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