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Direckshun 05-18-2013 09:10 AM

Crazy prediction: Donald Stephenson gets traded during the preseason.
 
I look at this OL depth, and I see one player that doesn't belong.

At left tackle, we have Branden Albert and Eric Fisher backing him up.

At left guard, we have Jeff Allen with Geoff Schwartz playing swing guard.

At center, we have Rodney Hudson and Eric Kush.

Right guard, Jon Asamoah with Schwartz backing up.

At right tackle, we have Eric Fisher with coach-favorite Matt Reynolds on board.

I think Donald Stephenson is the odd man out.

That said, he has starting ability, and the Chiefs don't want to simply cut the guy. So I believe they play him a ton in the preseason, then try to swing a deal for him.

Under normal circumstances, I think you could score a 4th for him, or even trick a team into getting your 3rd rounder back that you spent on him. But given that teams only trade with us when they can rape us (thanks to the Javier Arenas trade...), I don't know if we'll be able to get anything higher than a 5th.

KCUnited 05-18-2013 09:11 AM

Likely for a fullback.

Sfeihc 05-18-2013 09:13 AM

Should not trade. In 2014 could be starting RT.

milkman 05-18-2013 09:14 AM

Donald Stephonson will not be traded.

This staff s going to recognize the athletic ability and potential this kid has, and will bring him along this season to take over at one of the tackle positions next season should they not get Albert signed long term.

This kid has a higher ceiling than either Albert or Fisher.

Direckshun 05-18-2013 09:16 AM

Another option is that they don't re-sign Asamoah, and plug in Stephenson at RG, I suppose.

Pretty sure he was playing there with the 1s at one point at OTAs.

Rasputin 05-18-2013 09:19 AM

I think Andy Reid values OL more than any other position so I highly doubt they trade Stephenson.

mcaj22 05-18-2013 09:25 AM

yea but they are not keeping four OL backups on the 53 man

so

Schwartz
Stephenson
Kush
Reynolds

1 or 2 of them are flat out cut. I think they carry 8 max 9 OL on the 53 man

milkman 05-18-2013 09:34 AM

I think it's more likely that Jon Asamoah or Jeff Allen are traded.

O.city 05-18-2013 09:36 AM

I think it's more likely Reynolds is. A camp body. They guy has been cut twice an the eagles didnt even want to take him to camp.


No way he stays over Stephenson

jspchief 05-18-2013 09:39 AM

What the **** is Stephenson's trade value anyway?

Jesus Christ the value some of you guys put on perceived potential...

-King- 05-18-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9690419)
I think it's more likely Reynolds is. A camp body. They guy has been cut twice an the eagles didnt even want to take him to camp.


No way he stays over Stephenson

This. No way at all.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 05-18-2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9690400)
Donald Stephonson will not be traded.

This staff s going to recognize the athletic ability and potential this kid has, and will bring him along this season to take over at one of the tackle positions next season should they not get Albert signed long term.

This kid has a higher ceiling than either Albert or Fisher.



Whaaa ? Seriously ?

Chiefshrink 05-18-2013 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 9690403)
I don't think so....we probably won't have Albert next year. I also think after Reid was hosed last year with the O-line in Philly, he'll take all the depth he can get.

This !:thumb:

bevischief 05-18-2013 09:49 AM

Someone on the OL is going to traded that's as far I am going to go.

ChiefAshhole20 05-18-2013 09:56 AM

After the injury debacle in Philly last year, I think Reid realizes the importance of having depth on O-line, and Stephenson is a great swing tackle. I think his spot is secure

Mother****erJones 05-18-2013 10:29 AM

Would be a terrible trade. Don't trade good young tackles

ILChief 05-18-2013 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9690400)
Donald Stephonson will not be traded.

This staff s going to recognize the athletic ability and potential this kid has, and will bring him along this season to take over at one of the tackle positions next season should they not get Albert signed long term.

This kid has a higher ceiling than either Albert or Fisher.

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RealSNR 05-18-2013 11:10 AM

Jeff Allen sucks. Why the **** would we get rid of somebody with potential like Stephenson and keep Allen around?

Hoover 05-18-2013 11:14 AM

There is no need to trade him, especially if Albert walks after the season. Man, some of you guys only look at the roster for the upcoming season and not long term. Getting a 4th round pick for him would be an epic failure. He is worth more than that to us, even if he's on the bench this year. If we are going to trade a lineman besides Albert, I bet is Asamoah, mainly because he has good value and nearing the end of his rookie contract.

Mr. Laz 05-18-2013 11:15 AM

How is Fisher going to backup Albert and play right tackle at the same time?

If either Albert of Fisher get injured, Stephenson is a starter.

Mother****erJones 05-18-2013 11:23 AM

We need Stephenson. In case a tackle goes down.

Hoover 05-18-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9690410)
yea but they are not keeping four OL backups on the 53 man

so

Schwartz
Stephenson
Kush
Reynolds

1 or 2 of them are flat out cut. I think they carry 8 max 9 OL on the 53 man

Folks Kush is going on the practice squad, unless he totally kicks ass out there.

Mother****erJones 05-18-2013 11:24 AM

Stephenson got some quality experience last year. You don't trade him.

milkman 05-18-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9690553)
Folks Kush is going on the practice squad, unless he totally kicks ass out there.

I think there's a solid chance that Kush makes the 53 man roster unless we pick up a preseason cut along the way.

There is absolutely zero depth at center on this roster, other than Kush.

Beef Supreme 05-18-2013 11:27 AM

Title delivers.

The Franchise 05-18-2013 11:37 AM

Stephenson is your swing tackle.

RealSNR 05-18-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9690410)
yea but they are not keeping four OL backups on the 53 man

so

Schwartz
Stephenson
Kush
Reynolds

1 or 2 of them are flat out cut. I think they carry 8 max 9 OL on the 53 man

A max of 9 on the 53 man roster is 5 starters and 4 backups, which you say they're not doing.

SAUTO 05-18-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9690579)
A max of 9 on the 53 man roster is 5 starters and 4 backups, which you say they're not doing.

Lol
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Pasta Little Brioni 05-18-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9690423)
What the **** is Stephenson's trade value anyway?

Jesus Christ the value some of you guys put on perceived potential...

This. How many preseason trades of backup O-lineman even happen?

Pasta Little Brioni 05-18-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9690579)
A max of 9 on the 53 man roster is 5 starters and 4 backups, which you say they're not doing.


ROFL

chiefzilla1501 05-18-2013 12:03 PM

What's the point? Nobody will give up anything for him, he's a valuable swing depth tackle, and he costs nothing to keep.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 05-18-2013 12:06 PM

congratulations! you have now reached the end of the internet.

Mother****erJones 05-18-2013 12:10 PM

Another thread by Direckdumb

-King- 05-18-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9690579)
A max of 9 on the 53 man roster is 5 starters and 4 backups, which you say they're not doing.

LMAO

ChiefMojo 05-18-2013 04:36 PM

Fisher, Albert, Allen, Hudson, Asamoah, Stephenson, Schwartz and Kush are likely locks to make this roster. Reynolds is the one that is the only possible guy in jeopardy but I think we carry 9 OL. Having Stephnson, Schwartz and Kush as depth is something we just aren't use to... they aren't just bodies either but players that have potential to be good starters.

Saccopoo 05-18-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9690400)
Donald Stephonson will not be traded.

This staff s going to recognize the athletic ability and potential this kid has, and will bring him along this season to take over at one of the tackle positions next season should they not get Albert signed long term.

This kid has a higher ceiling than either Albert or Fisher.

This.

You don't trade a guy who is 6'6 1/2", 315 lbs. with 36" arms and ran a sub-5.00 40.

Stephenson is an absolute freak of nature that has excellent feet and a natural slide.

As Milk said, this guy has more potential than either Albert or Fisher.

Personally, I think that they lock up Albert long term and give him the money then move him into the LG position. Fisher moves over to LT and Stephenson is your RT.

Reynolds is a better guard prospect than a tackle IMO, and think he'd be balls at either spot.

LT: Fisher
LG: Albert
C: Hudson
RG: Reynolds
RT: Stephenson

Either that or they trade Albert early in the season and go with:

LT: Fisher
LG: Reynolds
C: Hudson
RG: Schwartz
RT: Stephenson

Backups for either situation are Allen and Schwartz and you have a potentially dominant offensive line either way.

The way I see it, Albert is looking as the odd man out at either tackle spot from a long term perspective as both Fisher and Stephenson have a better skill set for the position.

jd1020 05-18-2013 08:23 PM

What have the Panthers and Eagles missed with this undrafted stud Reynolds?

AussieChiefsFan 05-18-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9690400)
Donald Stephonson will not be traded.

This staff s going to recognize the athletic ability and potential this kid has, and will bring him along this season to take over at one of the tackle positions next season should they not get Albert signed long term.

This kid has a higher ceiling than either Albert or Fisher.

That's a pretty bold statement.

Saccopoo 05-18-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9691168)
That's a pretty bold statement.

Why?

I think it's pretty spot on.

He's more athletic than either Fisher or Albert, already has better feet than Albert and is absolutely prototype for the tackle position.

As I've said, I think that if Stephenson stayed in school for his senior year, he would have been in the mix for the first tackle off the board in the 2013 draft. His former OU teammate Lane Johnson went #4 overall to the Eagles in this past draft and Stephenson was hands down better than Johnson on the same team during the 2011 season.

Have you seen Stephenson's measurables? His burst numbers are absolutely sick for a guy his size. The guy is a freak.

Saccopoo 05-18-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9691167)
What have the Panthers and Eagles missed with this undrafted stud Reynolds?

Entrenched guys at the position, learning the NFL game, etc. I don't think people realize how difficult the transition is from college to the NFL for offensive linemen. It takes a couple of years.

You could make the same argument about Schwartz as well. There were many Vikings fans who were pissed that they let Schwartz go and kept Brandon Fusco. Schwartz was a guy who put up a +19.2 PFF rating in the 2010 season with Carolina playing mainly RG (also some RT). That's not chopped liver.

Reynolds was a former HS All-American, and a First Team Freshman All-American and four time First Team All-Conference player at BYU. Mike Mayock had him going in the first round of his preseason 2011 mock draft. They guy can play. But I think his best position in the NFL is at guard.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-18-2013 09:17 PM

Line depth is too important to Reid. If the D line doesn't show moxie this season, look for high drafts to begin at those positions. Yay.
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