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Bump 07-01-2013 10:30 PM

One of the most ****ed up things you will see
 
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Donger will come in here to defend the cops fo sho

I don't even see what the black guy did to get arrested other than being black and video taping with his phone.

skip to 3:25 to see the most ****ed up shit ever and I am raging watching this police state shit

Buck 07-01-2013 10:32 PM

****.

Buck 07-01-2013 10:32 PM

Naw this is too ****ed.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 10:33 PM

Have a doggie laying next to me right now. No way in hell I'm watching a video with that title.

Buck 07-01-2013 10:33 PM

What the **** is wrong with people?

Ceej 07-01-2013 10:34 PM

Yeah, that's pretty brutal.

**** me.

cabletech94 07-01-2013 10:34 PM

wow. that was pretty effed up. i deal with big dogs (no jokes please) almost every day. it's called respect for the animal, and don't be a friggin' pussy with a pistol.

sorry, no offense to the pussies with pistols on here.

Sassy Squatch 07-01-2013 10:35 PM

The **** is wrong with that cop?

cabletech94 07-01-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9787500)
The **** is wrong with that cop?

pussy?

Bump 07-01-2013 10:36 PM

I have a dog, a big black lab. If this shit ever happened, I don't know what I would do. She is my best friend and honestly, the only friend I could ever trust.

I almost want to cry watching that shit.

rico 07-01-2013 10:36 PM

Ugh.

Sorter 07-01-2013 10:36 PM

Nope.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 10:37 PM

Watched it against my better judgment.

Just give that ****ing pig the needle.

Sassy Squatch 07-01-2013 10:38 PM

Not even the shooting that really bothered me,

Spoiler!

cabletech94 07-01-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787510)
Watched it against my better judgment.

Just give that ****ing pig the needle.

this. eleventy. plus one.

notorious 07-01-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9787511)
Not even the shooting that really bothered me,

Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Sassy Squatch 07-01-2013 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9787515)
Spoiler!

****

Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9787515)
Spoiler!

Dogs feel pain. That dog was feeling a lot of it.

notorious 07-01-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9787516)
****

Sorry. :(

notorious 07-01-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787517)
Dogs feel pain. That dog was feeling a lot of it.

Gee, you think?

I am not going to argue, let's just say I have seen it with my own eyes more than most people, unfortunately.

It's very, very sad. :(

Pitt Gorilla 07-01-2013 10:47 PM

Horrible. Why was the guy being arrested?

Bugeater 07-01-2013 10:48 PM

Should've shot the dumbass dog owner instead. He was obviously looking for trouble when he decided it would be a good idea to interfere with police business. Well he found it, and the dog paid the price for his stupidity.

Sure-Oz 07-01-2013 10:49 PM

It all could've been prevented...by either side.

Sucks for the dog just being loyal knowing somethings wrong

Direckshun 07-01-2013 10:49 PM

Christ.

Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787525)
Should've shot the dumbass dog owner instead. He was obviously looking for trouble when he decided it would be a good idea to interfere with police business. Well he found it, and the dog paid the price for his stupidity.

The dog owner did nothing wrong.

Pitt Gorilla 07-01-2013 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787525)
Should've shot the dumbass dog owner instead. He was obviously looking for trouble when he decided it would be a good idea to interfere with police business. Well he found it, and the dog paid the price for his stupidity.

How did he interfere?

Bump 07-01-2013 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787525)
Should've shot the dumbass dog owner instead. He was obviously looking for trouble when he decided it would be a good idea to interfere with police business. Well he found it, and the dog paid the price for his stupidity.

ya what an evil doer. He was video taping and shit.

notorious 07-01-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787525)
Should've shot the dumbass dog owner instead. He was obviously looking for trouble when he decided it would be a good idea to interfere with police business. Well he found it, and the dog paid the price for his stupidity.

/donger

Sure-Oz 07-01-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9787534)
ya what an evil doer. He was video taping and shit.

I'm curious what the arrest charge was

Bugeater 07-01-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787531)
The dog owner did nothing wrong.

JFC, did you see the goddamn armored car in front of the house? There was more than likely an dangerous situation going on and this idiot decides to make himself a part of it.

jAZ 07-01-2013 10:52 PM

I'm a huge dog lover. But, that played out completely unlike what I expected reading this thread. The dog was clearly angry, protecting it's owner and not leashed. It made several attempts to bite the cops.

Separating out what the guy did to deserve to be handcuffed. Once the dog tries to bite the cop, what should the he do in that situation? Seems like shooting the dog was tragic but reasonable.

Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787537)
JFC, did you see the goddamn armored car in front of the house? There was more than likely an dangerous situation going on and this idiot decides to make himself a part of it.

He was recording the incident from beyond any cordoned off area. He didn't do anything wrong.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 10:54 PM

Worst case scenario: taze the ****ing dog. They don't give them to cops to make a ****ing light show.

Ceej 07-01-2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787543)
Worst case scenario: taze the ****ing dog. They don't give them to cops to make a ****ing light show.

Pretty much this.

I like how he has his gun pointed at the dog after shooting several shots, like it's going to be some sort of zombie dog and resurrect.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787542)
He was recording the incident from beyond any cordoned off area. He didn't do anything wrong.

Recording it for what purpose? He had no business approaching the scene like that. Probably was told repeatedly by the cops to back the **** off and didn't listen. Good grief. I swear some of you just want to be outraged by something.

ClevelandBronco 07-01-2013 10:56 PM

That's a messed up movie, but I like the soundtrack.

Sorter 07-01-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787543)
Worst case scenario: taze the ****ing dog. They don't give them to cops to make a ****ing light show.

I'm ignorant as to tazers but is that safe for the dog? For lack of a better phrase "what's their electrical capacity"?

I honestly have no idea.

Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787548)
Recording it for what purpose? He had no business approaching the scene like that. Probably was told repeatedly by the cops to back the **** off and didn't listen. Good grief. I swear some of you just want to be outraged by something.

You're an idiot.

Bump 07-01-2013 10:59 PM

okay, apparently the guy yelled something at the cops too.

But does that make it right?

Can the cops not just ignore it? Is it a crime to butthurt the cops? I guess it is.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787551)
You're an idiot.

Thanks for answering my question. Enjoy being outraged, you obviously relish it.

Direckshun 07-01-2013 10:59 PM

Christ.

notorious 07-01-2013 11:01 PM

He turned around like he knew he was getting arrested.


What does one say to a cop to get arrested?

Bump 07-01-2013 11:01 PM

I mean ya, the guy shouldn't have yelled shit at the cops. When I see shit going down, I walk the other way. But I still don't see the crime in what he did, other than, it's illegal and punishable by death to annoy cops.

Tombstone RJ 07-01-2013 11:02 PM

that's too bad... but the guy (who I like that he was video taping the police) should have put the dog in the car and made sure it was safe before he pissed off the cops and yelled at the cops. I know hindsight is 20/20 and all but he could have probably gotten a better video anyway if he'd let the dog do his business, put the dog in the car, and then gone and videoed the cops. That's a big dog and you know it's gonna freak out a cop and the cops are in a tense situation anyway.

Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787557)
Thanks for answering my question. Enjoy being outraged, you obviously relish it.

You're either trolling, too stupid to understand how the law works, or you don't mind the police violating people's civil rights. Unless the man was arrested because he'd just confessed to a crime, you're an idiot.

-King- 07-01-2013 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787548)
Recording it for what purpose? He had no business approaching the scene like that. Probably was told repeatedly by the cops to back the **** off and didn't listen. Good grief. I swear some of you just want to be outraged by something.

What scene did he approach? He was well outside the area. If police wanted them further away, that's why they have police tape.

Bump 07-01-2013 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787567)
You're either trolling, too stupid to understand how the law works, or you don't mind the police violating people's civil rights. No matter how you slice it, you're an idiot.

George Carlin had it right, we don't have rights, we have privileges. Rights cannot be taken away.

Dave Lane 07-01-2013 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787488)
Have a doggie laying next to me right now. No way in hell I'm watching a video with that title.

Yeah I'm gonna have to leave mine for a week, no ****ing way I'm watching this shit.

CrazyPhuD 07-01-2013 11:07 PM

I was going to make a joke about cops training for the LAPD...but the reality is, once that dog came out they did what they could to avoid shooting it. You can actually see the cops trying to grab the leash which would have given them control of the dog but they couldn't reach it. The dog lunges twice and the cops back off each time on the third time that's when they shot.

Looking at another story that's a 130lb rottweiler. They can't take the risk of that dog going full attack mode trying to protect it's owner. They can't know if that dog is trained to attack/fight. A dog that size can pull a person down easy, once you're on the ground if it goes for your throat it can be game over right there.

Shitty situation, no doubt but the cops weren't malicious about it. They tried to control the dog, they tried to back off but when the dog kept snapping at them they fired. About the only thing I wish they did was after then shot it and it was struggling put it out of it's misery. The problem is A that can be misinterpreted as malice rather than mercy and B shot dogs can be saved sometimes.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9787550)
I'm ignorant as to tazers but is that safe for the dog? For lack of a better phrase "what's their electrical capacity"?

I honestly have no idea.

They are all rated at several thousand volts, but it's not the voltage that kills you, it's the amperage. Static electrical discharges have much higher voltages than AC outlets but fractions of an amp of current.

It's not going to be good for the dog, but it's a far better outcome than shooting it. If you look at other similar incidents, it seems extremely likely that the dog would have been briefly incapacitated, but otherwise fine.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787567)
You're either trolling, too stupid to understand how the law works, or you don't mind the police violating people's civil rights. Unless the man was arrested because he'd just confessed to a crime, you're an idiot.

Well then please answer my question Mr. Non-idiot. What purpose was there for him to be approaching a potentially dangerous situation and filming it?

If the asshole got shot by some stray gunfire, then you'd be blaming the police for that as well.

KevB 07-01-2013 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787548)
Recording it for what purpose? He had no business approaching the scene like that. Probably was told repeatedly by the cops to back the **** off and didn't listen. Good grief. I swear some of you just want to be outraged by something.

Are you serious? There were other people also recording it, including the video we all just watched 20 feet away from this guy. He stayed on the perimeter, on the outside of the police cars. The guy was getting in his car when the cops started walking toward him. You couldn't have a conversation that you'd like him to move away for his own safety? You needed to cuff him? And could they not have had some awareness that the guy's large dog was in the car with open windows and may be a threat before it got to the point that they had to shoot him?

Sorter 07-01-2013 11:10 PM

This is a situation that while violent, i wish the officer had employed the bas rutten method for dealing with medium to large size animals.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9787563)
He turned around like he knew he was getting arrested.


What does one say to a cop to get arrested?

There are a few choice words.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9787590)
This is a situation that while violent, i wish the officer had employed the bas rutten method for dealing with medium to large size animals.

Tell Brian Urlacher who you are?

Sorter 07-01-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787585)
They are all rated at several thousand volts, but it's not the voltage that kills you, it's the amperage. Static electrical discharges have much higher voltages than AC outlets but fractions of an amp of current.

It's not going to be good for the dog, but it's a far better outcome than shooting it. If you look at other similar incidents, it seems extremely likely that the dog would have been briefly incapacitated, but otherwise fine.

Interesting. I wish this methis had been used instead.

Bump 07-01-2013 11:12 PM

Why couldn't they have sprayed it or tazed it first? Pulling out the pistol is easy mode.

The dog was being a good dog. Protecting his owner from what he perceived as bad guys. The dog just sort of jumped at the cop. I mean, even hit it with your stick

Why should killing be the first option?

notorious 07-01-2013 11:13 PM

I want to know what they charged the guy with.

-King- 07-01-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787586)
Well then please answer my question Mr. Non-idiot. What purpose was there for him to be approaching a potentially dangerous situation and filming it?

If the asshole got shot by some stray gunfire, then you'd be blaming the police for that as well.

Once again, if the police didn't want people that close, they have police tape just for that specific purpose.

Prison Bitch 07-01-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9787504)
I have a dog, a big black lab. If this shit ever happened, I don't know what I would do. She is my best friend and honestly, the only friend I could ever trust.

I almost want to cry watching that shit.

I like our family dog too, but are you ok man? You have nobody in life you'd trust? Really?

Sorter 07-01-2013 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787595)
Tell Brian Urlacher who you are?

I'm too lazy to try and post it from my phone but you should look up what bas thinks about lions. A quick Google search should do it.

CrazyPhuD 07-01-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9787556)
okay, apparently the guy yelled something at the cops too.

But does that make it right?

Can the cops not just ignore it? Is it a crime to butthurt the cops? I guess it is.

Honestly I don't know if what the cops did prior to the dog getting involved was right. But you have to admit the guy was acting weird. So if he stood on the corner and just video tapped that's not unusual but him walking back and forth to the back of the cop cars to film, that's not just a bit odd.

It's dangerous, he's getting fairly close to what has to be a tense scene(i.e. the whole armored car being there) and you don't know why he's moving CLOSER to the scene. Normal people are going to stay away(because they don't want to get shot if something goes down).

For the dude to get closer to the scene is not normal. Cops I'm sure wondered what the hell he was doing and it appears he didn't help himself. Shitty situation, but the old rule applies if the cops are rolling with the tactical unit stay the **** away. Situation will be tense and the cops already feel threatened. You don't add to the tension by approaching a tense scene.

Really shitty deal all around but it's hard to say the cops were really that malicious here. Tense situation that went wrong for everyone.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 11:15 PM

Cops should be paid far more than what they are, but they need years of training and should have to pass a very high bar of qualifications.

It's not a surprise we have so many issues with cops given how often they dredge for hires.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9787599)
Once again, if the police didn't want people that close, they have police tape just for that specific purpose.

Or tell people, like the two cops on the sidewalk most likely were, to stay the hell back. Or perhaps they thought that maybe people would have some common ****ing sense and not approach a scene like that.

The guy was being stupid, plain and simple.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9787607)
Honestly I don't know if what the cops did prior to the dog getting involved was right. But you have to admit the guy was acting weird. So if he stood on the corner and just video tapped that's not unusual but him walking back and forth to the back of the cop cars to film, that's not just a bit odd.

It's dangerous, he's getting fairly close to what has to be a tense scene(i.e. the whole armored car being there) and you don't know why he's moving CLOSER to the scene. Normal people are going to stay away(because they don't want to get shot if something goes down).

For the dude to get closer to the scene is not normal. Cops I'm sure wondered what the hell he was doing and it appears he didn't help himself. Shitty situation, but the old rule applies if the cops are rolling with the tactical unit stay the **** away. Situation will be tense and the cops already feel threatened. You don't add to the tension by approaching a tense scene.

Really shitty deal all around but it's hard to say the cops were really that malicious here. Tense situation that went wrong for everyone.

Just Passin' By will be along shortly to inform you that you are an idiot.

Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787586)
Well then please answer my question Mr. Non-idiot. What purpose was there for him to be approaching a potentially dangerous situation and filming it?

If the asshole got shot by some stray gunfire, then you'd be blaming the police for that as well.

There doesn't need to be a purpose that's satisfactory to some internet poster who goes by the screen name Bugeater. If his actions were legal, there's no justification for his arrest.

Since it's not illegal to film the police, it's not illegal to yell at the police, and he didn't cross any erected police barriers, what was his crime?

Prison Bitch 07-01-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787608)
Cops should be paid far more than what they are, but they need years of training and should have to pass a very high bar of qualifications.

It's not a surprise we have so many issues with cops given how often they dredge for hires.

Yeah, we know your feelings on "underpaid" fellow government employees.

thebrad84 07-01-2013 11:22 PM

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_2...g-arrest-owner

There's the full story as to what the poor, innocent man was doing prior to getting "arrested for no reason." Dude is a straight up, lawsuit chasing, ****tard. The only thing that's a shame about this deal is that he wasn't the one getting shot instead of the poor dog.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787612)
There doesn't need to be a purpose that's satisfactory to some internet poster who goes by the screen name Bugeater. If his actions were legal, there's no justification for his arrest.

Since it's not illegal to film the police, it's not illegal to yell at the police, and he didn't cross any erected police barriers, what was his crime?

I don't know, perhaps you should direct that question to the cops that arrested him. All I know is what I see in the video, and that's a dumbass who willingly put himself in a bad situation, and not surprisingly, had it end badly.

If you're too thick-headed to see that, then I don't know what else to say.

Sorter 07-01-2013 11:23 PM

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the majority of the officers in the film appear to be armed with MP5 variants, which iirc aren't standard issue for regular police but are for SWAT.

CrazyPhuD 07-01-2013 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9787597)
Why couldn't they have sprayed it or tazed it first? Pulling out the pistol is easy mode.

The dog was being a good dog. Protecting his owner from what he perceived as bad guys. The dog just sort of jumped at the cop. I mean, even hit it with your stick

Why should killing be the first option?

Tazing probably wouldn't work. You have one shot that's it, hitting a smallish rapidly moving target is no sure thing and if you miss you can't grab your gun before the dog is on top of you at that range(and the other cops can't shoot once the dog is on you because of the risk of hitting you). If they were further away maybe. One other bit about tazers a lot of cops aren't equipped with them because there's always the risk in the heat of the moment that instead of grabbing the taser you grab your gun thinking its your taser. Tazers can be less safe oddly.

I'm not sure about the pepper spray but I'd guess that's in an inconvenient place on their belts. If you think about most uses for pepper spray it's not for quick reaction. In quick moments training and muscle memory take over and I'm sure they aren't trained for fast pepper spray response.

If they had led with the pepper spray at start maybe, but you can see the guy trying to get the leash at the start. Maybe that we his bad choice he should have just sprayed him to begin with. But I think it's clear he didn't approach the dog with the intent to shoot. He shot when it was too close and risky to do much else.

As to batoning the dog, two things...first you have to get the baton out fast again it's not something that is designed for a quick draw. Second I'd wager that at the distance the dog was at and it's size, you hit it with the billy club and you're just going to piss it off.

Mostly likely it got too close and he had to react quickly, training and muscle memory took over and that's to draw and fire.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebrad84 (Post 9787615)
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_2...g-arrest-owner

There's the full story as to what the poor, innocent man was doing prior to getting "arrested for no reason." Dude is a straight up, lawsuit chasing, ****tard. The only thing that's a shame about this deal is that he wasn't the one getting shot instead of the poor dog.

Welllllll....that's interesting. Apparently interfering with police business isn't a crime where ever Just Passin' By comes from.

Fritz88 07-01-2013 11:31 PM

The dog jumped at the cop, it's a Rotweiller. It could eat your face in one bite.

The dog owner is to blame. The cop did nothing wrong imo.
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Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787622)
Welllllll....that's interesting. Apparently interfering with police business isn't a crime where ever Just Passin' By comes from.

Interfering with police business? He had a radio on. The cops are claiming that they were arresting a man, and shot his dog, because they thought his car radio was too loud. That's the same car radio that wasn't too loud on the video we got from the other party.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787627)
Interfering with police business? He had a radio on.

Yeah...and I'm the idiot here...

SPchief 07-01-2013 11:42 PM

There's some really stupid people in this thread. And it starts with the pothead threadstarter

Fritz88 07-01-2013 11:42 PM

Playing loud music in a possible hostage situation. Harassing cops whose adrenaline is running high, what to expect?

Smart guy.
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thebrad84 07-01-2013 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787627)
Interfering with police business? He had a radio on.

Are you ****ing serious? He had his radio blaring, as was evident in the video we watched, and such was self-described by dipshit suspect, and also described by an independent witness at the scene. Also reported by dipshit suspect and the witness is that the police ASKED him to turn his music down, and he refused, instead telling the police that it was his "****ing" radio. The officers were on scene of a high-risk, armed-subject and didn't need this ****tard showing up causing another scene to distract them from the serious matter at hand. **** this idiot and any one who sympathizes with him.

SPchief 07-01-2013 11:44 PM

And I feel bad for the dog for having a dumbass owner.

Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9787633)
Playing loud music in a possible hostage situation. Harassing cops whose adrenaline is running high, what to expect?

Smart guy.
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Proper police work is what I expect. I guess I'm aiming too high.


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