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ReynardMuldrake 07-04-2013 06:41 PM

Nevada police seize house, arrest homeowners for 'tactical advantage.'
 
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LAS VEGAS (CN) - Henderson police arrested a family for refusing to let officers use their homes as lookouts for a domestic violence investigation of their neighbors, the family claims in court.

Anthony Mitchell and his parents Michael and Linda Mitchell sued the City of Henderson, its Police Chief Jutta Chambers, Officers Garret Poiner, Ronald Feola, Ramona Walls, Angela Walker, and Christopher Worley, and City of North Las Vegas and its Police Chief Joseph Chronister, in Federal Court.

Henderson, pop. 257,000, is a suburb of Las Vegas.

The Mitchell family's claim includes Third Amendment violations, a rare claim in the United States. The Third Amendment prohibits quartering soldiers in citizens' homes in times of peace without the consent of the owner.

"On the morning of July 10th, 2011, officers from the Henderson Police Department responded to a domestic violence call at a neighbor's residence," the Mitchells say in the complaint.

It continues: "At 10:45 a.m. defendant Officer Christopher Worley (HPD) contacted plaintiff Anthony Mitchell via his telephone. Worley told plaintiff that police needed to occupy his home in order to gain a 'tactical advantage' against the occupant of the neighboring house.
Anthony Mitchell told the officer that he did not want to become involved and that he did not want police to enter his residence. Although Worley continued to insist that plaintiff should leave his residence, plaintiff clearly explained that he did not intend to leave his home or to allow police to occupy his home. Worley then ended the phone call.

Mitchell claims that defendant officers, including Cawthorn and Worley and Sgt. Michael Waller then "conspired among themselves to force Anthony Mitchell out of his residence and to occupy his home for their own use." (Waller is identified as a defendant in the body of the complaint, but not in the heading of it.)

The complaint continues: "Defendant Officer David Cawthorn outlined the defendants' plan in his official report: 'It was determined to move to 367 Evening Side and attempt to contact Mitchell. If Mitchell answered the door he would be asked to leave. If he refused to leave he would be arrested for Obstructing a Police Officer. If Mitchell refused to answer the door, force entry would be made and Mitchell would be arrested.'"

At a few minutes before noon, at least five defendant officers "arrayed themselves in front of plaintiff Anthony Mitchell's house and prepared to execute their plan," the complaint states.

It continues: "The officers banged forcefully on the door and loudly commanded Anthony Mitchell to open the door to his residence.

"Surprised and perturbed, plaintiff Anthony Mitchell immediately called his mother (plaintiff Linda Mitchell) on the phone, exclaiming to her that the police were beating on his front door.

"Seconds later, officers, including Officer Rockwell, smashed open plaintiff Anthony Mitchell's front door with a metal ram as plaintiff stood in his living room.

"As plaintiff Anthony Mitchell stood in shock, the officers aimed their weapons at Anthony Mitchell and shouted obscenities at him and ordered him to lie down on the floor.

"Fearing for his life, plaintiff Anthony Mitchell dropped his phone and prostrated himself onto the floor of his living room, covering his face and hands.

"Addressing plaintiff as 'asshole', officers, including Officer Snyder, shouted conflicting orders at Anthony Mitchell, commanding him to both shut off his phone, which was on the floor in front of his head, and simultaneously commanding him to 'crawl' toward the officers.

"Confused and terrified, plaintiff Anthony Mitchell remained curled on the floor of his living room, with his hands over his face, and made no movement.
"Although plaintiff Anthony Mitchell was lying motionless on the ground and posed no threat, officers, including Officer David Cawthorn, then fired multiple 'pepperball' rounds at plaintiff as he lay defenseless on the floor of his living room. Anthony Mitchell was struck at least three times by shots fired from close range, injuring him and causing him severe pain."

Officers then arrested him for obstructing a police officer, searched the house and moved furniture without his permission and set up a place in his home for a lookout, Mitchell says in the complaint.

He says they also hurt his pet dog for no reason whatsoever: "Plaintiff Anthony Mitchell's pet, a female dog named 'Sam,' was cowering in the corner when officers smashed through the front door. Although the terrified animal posed no threat to officers, they gratuitously shot it with one or more pepperball rounds. The panicked animal howled in fear and pain and fled from the residence. Sam was subsequently left trapped outside in a fenced alcove without access to water, food, or shelter from the sun for much of the day, while temperatures outside soared to over 100 degrees Fahrenheit."
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"Meanwhile, starting at approximately 10:45 a.m., police officers entered the back yard of plaintiffs Michael Mitchell and Linda Mitchell's residence at 362 Eveningside Avenue. The officers asked plaintiff Michael Mitchell if he would be willing to vacate his residence and accompany them to their 'command center' under the guise that the officers wanted Michael Mitchell's assistance in negotiating the surrender of the neighboring suspect at 363 Eveningside Avenue. Plaintiff Michael Mitchell reluctantly agreed to follow the officers from his back yard to the HPD command center, which was approximately one quarter mile away," the complaint states.

"When plaintiff Michael Mitchell arrived at the HPD command center, he was informed that the suspect was 'not taking any calls' and that plaintiff Michael Mitchell would not be permitted to call the suspect neighbor from his own phone. At that time, Mr. Mitchell realized that the request to accompany officers to the HPD command center was a tactic to remove him from his house. He waited approximately ten minutes at the HPD command center and was told he could not return to his home.

"Plaintiff Michael Mitchell then left HPD command center and walked down Mauve Street toward the exit of the neighborhood. After walking for less than five minutes, an HPD car pulled up next to him. He was told that his wife, Linda Mitchell, had 'left the house' and would meet him at the HPD command center. Michael Mitchell then walked back up Mauve Street to the HPD command center. He called his son, James Mitchell, to pick him up at the HPD command center. When plaintiff Michael Mitchell attempted to leave the HPD command center to meet James, he was arrested, handcuffed and placed in the back of a marked police car.

"Officers had no reasonable grounds to detain plaintiff Michael Mitchell, nor probable cause to suspect him of committing any crime.
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Police took Anthony and Michael Mitchell to jail and booked them for obstructing an officer. They were jailed for at least nine hours before they bailed out, they say in the complaint. All criminals charged were dismissed with prejudice. They claim the defendants filed the baseless criminal charges "to provide cover for defendants' wrongful actions, to frustrate and impede plaintiffs' ability to seek relief for those actions, and to further intimidate and retaliate against plaintiffs."

None of the officers were ever subjected to official discipline or even inquiry, the complaint states.
https://www.courthousenews.com/2013/07/03/59061.htm

Psyko Tek 07-04-2013 06:46 PM

+he was not protectedf, but I think he got served

Consistent1 07-04-2013 06:46 PM

Wild story. I wouldn't want to get involved either.

Rasputin 07-04-2013 06:51 PM

This happened in 2011 why is this just now getting out public in 2013?


I hope the guy gets big money for the trouble the cops gave him. No search warrant was given to him for permission to enter his home.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-04-2013 06:53 PM

Wow. This is where suing is a good thing.

Rain Man 07-04-2013 07:02 PM

So is this a Third Amendment violation, or do they technically have to be soldiers wanting to sleep?

aturnis 07-04-2013 07:22 PM

DC?

Ace Gunner 07-04-2013 07:34 PM

he's lucky donger didn't shoot him

Pitt Gorilla 07-04-2013 07:39 PM

Hey, if you've got nothing to hide.../DC

CrazyPhuD 07-04-2013 07:42 PM

Sure hope the house provided a tactical advantage because it sure as hell didn't provide a strategic one....

Jarni 07-04-2013 08:29 PM

In this case I don't think it is about having something to hide. There was no reason for the police to enter the home and use it for a tactical advantage. I wouldn't want police in my home either because chances are you're going to get repercussions from it. I hope they win their battle.

WhawhaWhat 07-04-2013 08:45 PM

I stole this from Reddit, but -

There are a lot of claims.
  • The constitutional claims
  • Assault
  • Battery
  • False arrest and imprisonment
  • Intentional infliction and emotional distress
  • Negligent infliction and emotional distress
  • Civil conspiracy
  • Defamation
  • Abuse of process
  • Malicious prosecution
  • Respondeat superior
  • Negligent hiring, retention, supervision, and training

Court Docs -
http://ia601809.us.archive.org/11/it....95379.1.1.pdf
http://ia601809.us.archive.org/11/it....95379.1.0.pdf

Dayze 07-04-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9793137)
Hey, if you've got nothing to hide.../DC

I was just going to post that . :thumb:

WhawhaWhat 07-04-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9793125)
So is this a Third Amendment violation, or do they technically have to be soldiers wanting to sleep?

Griswold v. Connecticut cited the third amendment in saying that ones home should be free from agents of the state.

Imon Yourside 07-04-2013 08:50 PM

If you have nothing to hide, you should let authorities take your wife and kids and do as they please...You don't have anything to hide do you?

Pitt Gorilla 07-04-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9793185)
If you have nothing to hide, you should let authorities take your wife and kids and do as they please...You don't have anything to hide do you?

/Tom Cash et al.

Dayze 07-04-2013 09:06 PM

I hope the terrorists don't win as a result of this

Kerberos 07-04-2013 09:09 PM

Jutta Chambers had to resign here because two of her officers (Henderson's finest) literally beat the shit out of a man that wouldn't respond to them because he was in diabetic shock from low blood sugar. That was in 2012 so you know how old this story above is. Hederson police here are like a bunch of outa control Barney Fife's.


http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012...#axzz2Y8XkKhoC

DaneMcCloud 07-04-2013 09:10 PM

Vegas cop are dicks.

Brock 07-04-2013 10:08 PM

I fail to see the problem /donger

Brock 07-04-2013 10:09 PM

Cops are people too, give em a break /cc

Brock 07-04-2013 10:10 PM

They were looking for terriss, it's ok /hcf

Hammock Parties 07-04-2013 10:15 PM

Throw those CrazyCoffeys in ****ing jail.

God, what a disgusting story.

Bugeater 07-04-2013 10:54 PM

Well this surely means that all cops act like this!

demonhero 07-04-2013 11:04 PM

Worthless cops.... Its getting about that time to start setting up $200 go-pros in every corner of our homes to protect our rights. I already have a trail cam in the backyard.:doh!:

WhawhaWhat 07-04-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9793340)
Well this surely means that all cops act like this!

**** the police.

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Bugeater 07-04-2013 11:20 PM

I have no idea why so many cops are dickheads...

Carlota69 07-04-2013 11:28 PM

Aa former friend of mine is a Henderson NV cop. Before she became a cop, she was really cool. Now, she's a ****ing dick, who thinks she's above the law, and is suspicious of everyone. Completely different person. I think I've hung out with a couple of the cops mentioned in the story. I hope they get it in the ass for what the did. Those assholes think they're above the law, and they are very different than Vegas cops. I have friends who are Vegas cops, and they are way cooler.

2bikemike 07-04-2013 11:36 PM

I don't know maybe its just me but with all the commotion of obtaining entry into the home it seems to me they would have lost all tactical advantage.

AustinChief 07-05-2013 12:06 AM

I have problems believing this story BUT if it is even close to true I sincerely hope that every single cop involved dies a slow a painful death. This type of behavior is as low as child molestation on my list of disgusting things. BUT realistically we are only hearing one very slanted side of the story so I'll reserve judgement for the time being.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9793374)
I have problems believing this story BUT if it is even close to true I sincerely hope that every single cop involved dies a slow a painful death. This type of behavior is as low as child molestation on my list of disgusting things. BUT realistically we are only hearing one very slanted side of the story so I'll reserve judgement for the time being.

This is certainly very shitty, but nowhere near the level of child molestation. Not even close.

I do hope they all lose their jobs and are charged with something.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2013 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9793340)
Well this surely means that all cops act like this!

Yep. And this case is EXACTLY like the last one about the dog...

crazycoffey 07-05-2013 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9793401)
This is certainly very shitty, but nowhere near the level of child molestation. Not even close.

I do hope they all lose their jobs and are charged with something.

This, oh and I hope clay and Brock die slow painful deaths before they dilute the gene pool.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2013 02:56 AM

This guy is owed millions in damages, IMO.

crazycoffey 07-05-2013 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9793406)
This guy is owed millions in damages, IMO.

From the information presented in the OP, I'll agree. I stopped reading after "LAS VEGAS (CN) - Henderson police arrested a family for refusing to let officers use their homes as lookouts for a domestic violence investigation of their neighbors, the family claims in court."

Because I can't reasonably see any reason to
A) use a neighbors house for tactical advantages in a domestic violence investigation.
And B) charge a citizen for not letting me use their property for an investigation.

They're either the worlds worse police officers or there's something else going on here.

Now if there was an active shooting incident next door, not a barricaded suspect, but multiple shooters on an active killing spree, I may make you leave your house for your own safety, but it would be such an extreme circumstance, I doubt anyone here on their most cop hating day would really be upset with the actions. But that's as much speculation as I dare to make. I'm not as brave as Brock, Whawhawhaaaaaa or wendler.

CrazyPhuD 07-05-2013 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9793358)
I have no idea why so many cops are dickheads...

I think it really comes down to two things. You're dealing with the shit of society on a constant basis. Spend enough time dealing with the worst and everyone is going to forget that not everyone is like the scumbags. Secondly the old rule applies, power corrupts no matter how good you start out being.

http://mekms.files.wordpress.com/201...authoritah.jpg

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2013 03:28 AM

I'm seriously questioning the veracity of this story.

Cannot find a credible link. Nothing about it on local TV sites.

crazycoffey 07-05-2013 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9793410)
I think it really comes down to two things. You're dealing with the shit of society on a constant basis. Spend enough time dealing with the worst and everyone is going to forget that not everyone is like the scumbags. Secondly the old rule applies, power corrupts no matter how good you start out being.

http://mekms.files.wordpress.com/201...authoritah.jpg

I think what you posted has some truth, like in the instance of Carlotta's friend. But I don't believe the majority of cops have become corrupt, that implies a lot of power, that's just not there. I know there are dumbass cops, have worked with many, but they've always been in the minority.

I'm more worried about our politicians, judges and even lawyers, when it comes to corrupted powers and an eroding moral compass.

mdchiefsfan 07-05-2013 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9793409)
From the information presented in the OP, I'll agree. I stopped reading after "LAS VEGAS (CN) - Henderson police arrested a family for refusing to let officers use their homes as lookouts for a domestic violence investigation of their neighbors, the family claims in court."

Because I can't reasonably see any reason to
A) use a neighbors house for tactical advantages in a domestic violence investigation.
And B) charge a citizen for not letting me use their property for an investigation.

They're either the worlds worse police officers or there's something else going on here.

Now if there was an active shooting incident next door, not a barricaded suspect, but multiple shooters on an active killing spree, I may make you leave your house for your own safety, but it would be such an extreme circumstance, I doubt anyone here on their most cop hating day would really be upset with the actions. But that's as much speculation as I dare to make. I'm not as brave as Brock, Whawhawhaaaaaa or wendler.


http://images2.fanpop.com/images/pho...-2560-1575.jpg

crazycoffey 07-05-2013 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9793412)
I'm seriously questioning the veracity of this story.

Cannot find a credible link. Nothing about it on local TV sites.

I admire that you are looking, researching. Probably the first to do so. I bet the OP didnt try any such counter balance before posting this.

crazycoffey 07-05-2013 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9793414)

Hey, worlds worse police officers would be fitting if the first paragraph of the OP is true. But to be fair, worlds worst posters will make a judgement based on one thread posting on Chiefsplanet.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2013 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9793415)
I admire that you are looking, researching. Probably the first to do so. I bet the OP didnt try any such counter balance before posting this.

I'm a reasonable guy with above average intelligence, I think.

There are good cops and bad cops.

big nasty kcnut 07-05-2013 04:45 AM

The cops are wrong on this one. They can not force their way into a home without a warrant and also this violate the law about giving quarters to police or troops unwillingly.

big nasty kcnut 07-05-2013 04:48 AM

For the record i'm all for helping the police out as long as they give me comps. for using my house for a sting. If they don't i won't let them into my house and to call my lawyer.

Chief Roundup 07-05-2013 06:25 AM

So the cops also tried to get into his parents home on the same street?

Chief Roundup 07-05-2013 06:28 AM

The Mitchells are being represented. If you all think this is all a big lie then someone could call their lawyers which are mentioned in the original article.
Cofer, Geller & Durham out of Las Vegas.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2013 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9793432)
The Mitchells are being represented. If you all think this is all a big lie then someone could call their lawyers which are mentioned in the original article.
Cofer, Geller & Durham out of Las Vegas.

Who said lie?

There is NO credible source for this story. It should be top story on Vegas TV.

BlackHelicopters 07-05-2013 06:42 AM

Something is missing, here.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9793436)
Something is missing, here.

Yeah, like mainstream media.

Marcellus 07-05-2013 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9793406)
This guy is owed millions in damages, IMO.

That is ridiculous. He in no way suffered any serious harm. People involved in serious car accidents at no fault of their won dont get millions of $.

That's just dumb.

Does he deserve something, yes but I would think $100,000 is more than sufficient.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2013 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9793440)
That is ridiculous. He in no way suffered any serious harm. People involved in serious car accidents at no fault of their won dont get millions of $.

That's just dumb.

Does he deserve something, yes but I would think $100,000 is more than sufficient.

This is different than a car accident. Your civil rights are not grossly violated in an accident.

Maybe I exaggerated, but a million would not be out of the question if they actually did this to him.

Marcellus 07-05-2013 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9793442)
This is different than a car accident. Your civil rights are not grossly violated in an accident.

Maybe I exaggerated, but a million would not be out of the question if they actually did this to him.

I suppose the fine should be hefty as a deterrent to the police department involved but in no way do you want it to be ridiculous in amount.

We already have a litigation happy society.The fact some asshole cops stepped way over their authority is reflection on them and possibly their boss but its not like this guy was thrown in jail for 5 years.

Ace Gunner 07-05-2013 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9793434)
Who said lie?

There is NO credible source for this story. It should be top story on Vegas TV.



well, "the news" has filters, you know :)

From MSN;



Police allegedly violate Third Amendment just in time for the Fourth

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/92/2B931F..._cwGxyWTyg.jpg

The Third Amendment, which forbids forcefully quartering soldiers in people's homes, doesn't get brought up a lot. Anthony Mitchell of Henderson, Nev., is suing the city for Third Amendment violations. He was arrested for not allowing police officers to use his home as a lookout for an investigation. After Mitchell refused their initial request over the phone, officers allegedly showed up at his door with a metal ram and broke in, "Addressing the plaintiff as 'asshole,'" says the best part of the complaint, "Officers shouted conflicting orders at Mitchell." When he didn't (or couldn't) comply, they allegedly hit him and his dog with pepper spray. The really crazy thing: they also arrested Mitchell's parents, who live on the same street, for the same "crime." Everybody gets a Third Amendment violation! — By Nick Mangione [Source]

http://now.msn.com/anthony-mitchell-...ent-violations


Unfortunately(for main media), this story is gaining legs

Dayze 07-05-2013 07:45 AM

"we need to use your house, GTFO of the way.....*walks by the coffee table*.....well!...what do we have here? A pot pipe. You're under arrest".

jspchief 07-05-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9793444)
I suppose the fine should be hefty as a deterrent to the police department involved but in no way do you want it to be ridiculous in amount.

We already have a litigation happy society.The fact some asshole cops stepped way over their authority is reflection on them and possibly their boss but its not like this guy was thrown in jail for 5 years.

This isn't as much about the victims deserving to get rich as it is about the punishment being harsh enough to be an effective deterrent.

That's often what gets lost in discussions about the outrageous amounts awarded in lawsuits. Getting burned by coffee may not warrant a lottery type windfall, but if you want to do more than slap the wrist of McDonald's sized corporations, you have to swing a big stick.

A Salt Weapon 07-05-2013 08:37 AM

Money is not a punishment to government. Sick and tired of hearing about this stuff and there is never any repercussions on the police themselves. The money should come from their personal assets and their pensions. Leaving the tax payers with the bill is another slap in the face.

unlurking 07-05-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9793442)
This is different than a car accident. Your civil rights are not grossly violated in an accident.

Maybe I exaggerated, but a million would not be out of the question if they actually did this to him.

At minimum, he deserves the same amount you would have to pay if you shared a dozen songs over the Internet.

unlurking 07-05-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 9793503)
Money is not a punishment to government. Sick and tired of hearing about this stuff and there is never any repercussions on the police themselves. The money should come from their personal assets and their pensions. Leaving the tax payers with the bill is another slap in the face.

I wouldn't mind seeing them (and whoever approved the whole thing), spend a week or two in genpop. Think about the repercussions if a normal citizen did this. There would be major criminal charges resulting in years in prison.

Ace Gunner 07-05-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 9793503)
Money is not a punishment to government. Sick and tired of hearing about this stuff and there is never any repercussions on the police themselves. The money should come from their personal assets and their pensions. Leaving the tax payers with the bill is another slap in the face.

Liability needs to be with the officers, yes, but imo dept heads should run a much tighter ship -- meaning, heads need to roll & charges need filed.

there is no place in american law for double standards, yet we are being told to let these folks "do their job" while at the same time society is being directed to "look the other way" and consider "the greater good" which is crooked by america's standards.

in fact, the USC is designed to empower americans when need be. there is a reason "free speech" is our first right.

Brock 07-05-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9793405)
This, oh and I hope clay and Brock die slow painful deaths before they dilute the gene pool.

Typical cop overreaction.

WhawhaWhat 07-05-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9793444)
I suppose the fine should be hefty as a deterrent to the police department involved but in no way do you want it to be ridiculous in amount.

We already have a litigation happy society.The fact some asshole cops stepped way over their authority is reflection on them and possibly their boss but its not like this guy was thrown in jail for 5 years.

But if the guy did the same thing to the cop he would go to prison for 30+ years. The police had no authority to detain the citizen in this case and they should be held to a higher standard as someone that represents and enforces the laws in his jurisdiction.

beach tribe 07-05-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 9793364)
I don't know maybe its just me but with all the commotion of obtaining entry into the home it seems to me they would have lost all tactical advantage.

I know right.
One might notice a bunch pigs shuffling in and out of the house next door poppin the dog with pepper rounds and comparing the tightness of their shirts
Tazers on the ready, of course.

suzzer99 07-05-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9793450)
well, "the news" has filters, you know :)

From MSN;



Police allegedly violate Third Amendment just in time for the Fourth

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/92/2B931F..._cwGxyWTyg.jpg

The Third Amendment, which forbids forcefully quartering soldiers in people's homes, doesn't get brought up a lot. Anthony Mitchell of Henderson, Nev., is suing the city for Third Amendment violations. He was arrested for not allowing police officers to use his home as a lookout for an investigation. After Mitchell refused their initial request over the phone, officers allegedly showed up at his door with a metal ram and broke in, "Addressing the plaintiff as 'asshole,'" says the best part of the complaint, "Officers shouted conflicting orders at Mitchell." When he didn't (or couldn't) comply, they allegedly hit him and his dog with pepper spray. The really crazy thing: they also arrested Mitchell's parents, who live on the same street, for the same "crime." Everybody gets a Third Amendment violation! — By Nick Mangione [Source]

http://now.msn.com/anthony-mitchell-...ent-violations


Unfortunately(for main media), this story is gaining legs

MSN != MSNBC

Check the source of this news snippet - it's the same as the OP. Clicking around the links on that site, it looks fairly bogus.

BigMeatballDave 07-05-2013 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9793514)
At minimum, he deserves the same amount you would have to pay if you shared a dozen songs over the Internet.

I don't share anything.

I steal it, though. :evil:

Garcia Bronco 07-05-2013 10:40 AM

I think the thing to do here is imprison the officers for 1 year and seize their homes for 6 months and put their families on the street. Also a public written apology to the families they assaulted. I know it's a tough thing to do, but I see no other way for them to properly learn a lesson.

Xanathol 07-05-2013 11:04 AM

Home owner should have armed himself and thus, opened fire...

Ace Gunner 07-05-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9793593)
MSN != MSNBC

Check the source of this news snippet - it's the same as the OP. Clicking around the links on that site, it looks fairly bogus.

bogus? I don't see anything suggesting this at all. in fact, this MSN article brings forth a new detail -- the parents who live on that street were arrested during this op as well, which is why I bolded that. So, is this writer conspiring to make the event up too?

Chief Roundup 07-05-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 9793503)
Money is not a punishment to government. Sick and tired of hearing about this stuff and there is never any repercussions on the police themselves. The money should come from their personal assets and their pensions. Leaving the tax payers with the bill is another slap in the face.

Yeah see that is the problem. The settlements have to be paid by the taxpayer not the person that committed the act.
Police Officers should have to provide their own liability insurance like Doctors and such or something along those lines. There should be a way to shift the financial responsibility away from the taxpayer.

Pitt Gorilla 07-05-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xanathol (Post 9793653)
Home owner should have armed himself and thus, opened fire...

kill a cop? Yeah, brilliant plan.

suzzer99 07-05-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9793715)
bogus? I don't see anything suggesting this at all. in fact, this MSN article brings forth a new detail -- the parents who live on that street were arrested during this op as well, which is why I bolded that. So, is this writer conspiring to make the event up too?

Well since the MSN author lists nothing but the OP's site as his source, I'm still skeptical. So we have some guy, and some other guy. They could be the same writer pimping his own work for all we know.

Due to the internet echo chamber/automated blog pimping for pay-per-click ads, any viral article like this is going to have 100s of hits in a day. But a lot of times when you trace them it's all from one source.

I'm not saying the article isn't true. I'd just like to see another source before I believe it.

mikey23545 07-05-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9793948)
Well since the MSN author lists nothing but the OP's site as his source, I'm still skeptical. So we have some guy, and some other guy. They could be the same writer pimping his own work for all we know.

Due to the internet echo chamber/automated blog pimping for pay-per-click ads, any viral article like this is going to have 100s of hits in a day. But a lot of times when you trace them it's all from one source.

I'm not saying the article isn't true. I'd just like to see another source before I believe it.

Yep, this story just does not pass the smell test at all...

mdstu 07-05-2013 08:41 PM

This article links the court document filed on July 1st 2013.
The indecent apparently occurred in July 2011.

http://reason.com/24-7/2013/07/04/ne...vate-homes-arr

http://www.scribd.com/doc/151769636/...t-al-Complaint

Edit: It is however using the same article as it's source.

Tombstone RJ 07-05-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9793178)
I stole this from Reddit, but -

There are a lot of claims.
  • The constitutional claims
  • Assault
  • Battery
  • False arrest and imprisonment
  • Intentional infliction and emotional distress
  • Negligent infliction and emotional distress
  • Civil conspiracy
  • Defamation
  • Abuse of process
  • Malicious prosecution
  • Respondeat superior
  • Negligent hiring, retention, supervision, and training

Court Docs -
http://ia601809.us.archive.org/11/it....95379.1.1.pdf
http://ia601809.us.archive.org/11/it....95379.1.0.pdf

I'd sue the shit out of those friggen assholes if they pulled this stunt on me. This is an obvious abuse of power.

Hammock Parties 07-05-2013 11:00 PM

**** cops.

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J Diddy 07-05-2013 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9794568)
**** cops.

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**** punks.

Hammock Parties 07-06-2013 12:12 AM

That guy did nothing wrong. The cop got all nasty because he didn't want to roll his window down all the way. That's his constitutional right.

Just Passin' By 07-06-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9793948)
Well since the MSN author lists nothing but the OP's site as his source, I'm still skeptical. So we have some guy, and some other guy. They could be the same writer pimping his own work for all we know.

Due to the internet echo chamber/automated blog pimping for pay-per-click ads, any viral article like this is going to have 100s of hits in a day. But a lot of times when you trace them it's all from one source.

I'm not saying the article isn't true. I'd just like to see another source before I believe it.

How about the Las Vegas Review Journal?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/cr...ng-their-homes

mikey23545 07-06-2013 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9794640)
That guy did nothing wrong. The cop got all nasty because he didn't want to roll his window down all the way. That's his constitutional right.

Bullshit.

That's a perfect way for someone to pretend like they're complying while they're hiding a weapon behind a tinted, barely cracked open window.

I would like to think they pistol whipped the little ****er once they had him out of the car, then sliced open all his upholstery while "searching" for drugs.

Dayze 07-06-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9794656)
Bullshit.

That's a perfect way for someone to pretend like they're complying while they're hiding a weapon behind a tinted, barely cracked open window.

I would like to think they pistol whipped the little ****er once they had him out of the car, then sliced open all his upholstery while "searching" for drugs.

Wut?

J Diddy 07-06-2013 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9794640)
That guy did nothing wrong. The cop got all nasty because he didn't want to roll his window down all the way. That's his constitutional right.

It's a dui checkpoint. How exactly was the officer to determine if he was driving under the influence when the driver hid behind the window? IMO, his actions produced the appearance that he was under the influence and warranted the investigation.

Also, how is one to be certain that what he stated was true?


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