Late night bullshit: the 2010 draft class.
 

It's three years later.

It's time to assess the talent this team brought in three years ago in the 2010 draft, since conventional wisdom says you need three years to know what you've got.

The draft:

1. S Eric Berry
2. RB/WR Dexter McCluster
2. CB Javier Arenas
3. OG Jon Asamoah
3. TE Tony Moeaki
5. S Kendrick Lewis
5. OLB Cameron Sheffield

notable UDFA: none

It was the famous "team captain" draft, where every single player was a team captain.

Eric Berry and a bunch of trash.

McCluster homers descend upon this thread like a thousand nations of the Persian Empire.

Wouldn't call these guys trash. They're all good depth moves. The problem is that it's unbelievably conservative.

The McCluster pick wasn't a bad one. It was a gamble on a playmaker that so far hasn't panned out. But at least Pioli took a shot at a playmaker. Every other move he made was safe and conservative, and he couldn't even get most of those right.

Two starters (Berry, Jon), two backups (DMC, Lewis). Maybe three if Moeaki can become a good third tight end instead of a walking infirmary.

Can't really hate, even if the rest of it is trash.

I'd give it a B.

Lost points for insanely overdrafting DMC.

It's pathetic to look back and realize that in 4 years, this was considered by an absolute mile the best draft the team had. None of the other drafts deserve better than a D grade.

I wanted Sean Lee or Daryl Washington with the two.

Lee is the better choice.

Still a decent class IMO. Most of those players are still playing a role. Not to mention the beast Berry has become.

the impact of all those picks not named Berry: almost 0

B-

Pioli sure pissed away a lot of second round draft picks. Love Berry and won't give up on Asamoah yet. I'll give it a B-.

Franchise has a long-running tradition of pissing away 2nd round draft picks. Carl Peterson had great artistry in doing it.

There were 4 players I wanted with our second round picks that year:

Carlos Dunlap
Sergio Kindle
Terrance Cody
Sean Lee

Ravens screwed up with Kindle and Cody, which is rare for Ozzie Newsome. Dunlap when healthy has been pretty good. Sean Lee is a stud.

Yeah, and more recently trading them away for recycled Qbs. The team has a history of screwing them up, so why not just give them away!

I do recall the howls of outrage that we didn't draft Sergio Kindle with that pick.

Well, we can pick him up off the street now if we so desire.

I wanted Jimmy Clausen in the 2nd. I'll shut up now.

A lot of us did.

But a lot of us always want guys who bust. That's the nature of the draft.

I remember the year I was pissed that we drafted Ryan Sims when Wendell Bryant was still on the board. ROFL

Below is my draft that year in our Alternate Reality 1 game. I hate you people for talking me into Clausen, but that's a done deal.

I think I like my draft better than the Chiefs' draft. Spiller is Spiller, Carrington is now a starting DE, Jones is regarded as one of the better SS in the league, I've still got Lewis at FS, Watson is currently listed as a starter at OLB, and all the other guys are at least still clinging to roster spots.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...er#post6837335

1st - Pick 5 - RB C.J. Spiller. (Bills) Do we need him? No. But we think he's a playmaker, and we want playmakers on this team.

2nd - Pick 36 - QB Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) Yeah, even though we have Sanchez. We believe in depth and competition at key positions.

3rd - Pick 68 - DE Alex Carrington (Bills). We're shifting to a 4-3 and he can man the left side.

4th - Pick 102 - OT Bruce Campbell (Raiders) We need help at tackle and he's available.

5th - Pick 136 - FS Kendrick Lewis (Chiefs) Like the Chiefs pick, so we'll take him.

5th - Pick 142 - SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Looking for a little strong safety help, too.

6th - Pick 173 - WR Dezmon Brisco (Bengals) Any help we can get at WR would be appreciated.

7th - Pick 212 - LB Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers). Hope he can develop into a full-time LB

These are fun to do, I get that. But the reality is every team misses and you can't possibly expect every pick to become a star. If you can get 2 or 3 productive players from a draft you are doing good. McCluster isn't a star, but he's been productive all things considered. Who would we have drafted there instead of him? I guess Gronkowski, but that's about it.
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Jimmy Clausen could've been a totally different QB at a different franchise, especially under Weis.

That said, he would've been a Chief and sucked anyway.

Don't get me started on the subject.....I'll just end up getting shit on.

Me too. If we'd have taken Lee instead of Javier Arenas, I'd give this draft an A-. As it is, I'd give it a B because almost all of these guys can play in the NFL and a couple of them are pretty good to really good starters.

Here's my draft from Alternate Reality Game 1:

1. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
2a. Dexter McCluster, RB/WR, Ole Miss
2b. Sean Lee, LB, Penn State
3. Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois
4. Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA
5a. Kendrick Lewis, S, Ole Miss
5b. Matt Tennant, C, Boston College
5c. David Reed, WR, Utah

Instead of a talented, but oft-injured, TE and a midget nickle back, I've got a starting CB in Verner and a pretty solid LB in Lee. Tennant and Reed are apparently garbage though.

Reshad Jones was a good one!

as it was though, it wasn't a horrible draft.

As was Sean Lee. We draft pro bowlers in Alternate Reality 1.

My brother in law, a dallas fan, called me bitching out Jerry Jones about that pick.

Shakes head. I was like do you even know who sean lee is?

You can make a strong case for the 2011 draft class being better than 2010.

1. Jon Baldwin- BUST
2. Rod Hudson- Starter, still developing
3. Allen Bailey- Depth, kind of shitty
3. Justin Houston- Mega orgasm awesome ****ing pick
4. Jalil Brown- Depth, kind of shitty
5. Ricky Stanzi- Bust, but is impressive at growing wigs for cancer patients
5. Gabe Miller- Bust, but is somehow doing stuff with another team (Bears)
6. Jerrell Powe- Depth, not terrible
7. Shane Bannan- Bust, giant douchebag fratbro

vs.

1. Eric Berry- Mega orgasm awesome ****ing pick
2. Dexter McCluster- Depth, not terrible but also not that great
2. Javier Arenas- Was okay depth, now that he's gone he's a bust
3. Jon Asamoah- Starter, still developing
3. Tony Moeaki- Depth, not terrible
5. Kendrick Lewis- Starting but should be depth, kind of shitty
5. Cameron Sheffield- Bust, might have been different had he not gotten nearly paralyzed

Tallying up the not bust players, would you rather have:
Hudson, Houston, Powe, Bailey, Brown

or

Berry, McCluster, Asamoah, Moeaki, Lewis

I think Hudson and Asamoah cancel each other out. Same with Powe and Moeaki. Lewis and McCluster are much better to have than Bailey and Brown.

Where it gets close is the Justin Houston pick. What a homerun that was. Not to take anything away from Berry, but to take a passrushing stud in a draft is pretty damn important and improves your team more than any other position except for QB.

In the end, I'd still rather have the 2010 draft I think, but not by much at all. Houston is what makes all the difference.

The difference maker for me is that the 2010 draft pulled in lots of really good depth guys, most of whom could start (even if they could be upgraded). Almost every player is still on the team in a valuable role. 2011 was complete shit except for one outstanding pick. It was an extremely conservative draft, but it's by far Pioli's best. Which is sad, because by any other team's standards, this is a pretty average draft.

Why are you all of a sudden putting the quotes at the bottom of the post?

Stop it. It's annoying.

Always done that. Didn't realize it was annoying.

Draft classes like that are fine when you have a qb. When you're looking for cornerstones to prop up your qb, it's mediocre

we spent 2 seconds on arenas (traded for a fb) and mccluster

how can that not be considered a disaster?

no need to even mention passing up gronkowski and graham for the 'opportunity' to trade up for brokakki

this was the year that Pioli passed on a ****load of good talent for those midgets in the 2nd round

all those good LBers; Bowman, Lee, Washington, Spikes, etc

what a ****ing fat shit of a GM he was

I'm glad we traded a Hall of Fame TE for a CB not even on the team anymore. Thanks Fat Scott

What I wouldn't do to have Navarro Bowman on our squad right now.

Hali, Bowman, DJ, Houston. I'm getting a chub just thinking about it...

But, yeah, this is a good summation. Not every draft is going to yield two superstars and 3 starters.

We got a guy that is a superstar in many's eyes (Berry) and a solid starter in Asamoah.

Kendrick Lewis and Javier Arenas would be great safety and CB depth for any team.

McCluster.. Well, I'm sure he could be halfway decent in a more wide-open offense. He'd probably work wonders in a place like New Orleans.

Moeaki has shown some flashes when he hasn't been a pussy, but yes, he was a terrible pick given the Hall of Fame potential of Gronk and Graham.

the irony of this being "the team captain" draft and that fat **** passes on Sean Lee. who was a team captain and a ****ing stud at Penn State

it was so obvious those Penn St LBers were going to be good that year

That was a god awful draft, and giving it a B instead of a C-/D+ is another example of the delusional nature of Chiefs fans.

Even Berry has been a disappointment.

That's the thing. People keep saying that Berry was a good pick, and I'm still not seeing it. The guy is a missile on run defense, and granted the injury was a big derailment, but a safety at the #6 spot had better be casting lightning bolts from the sky and three years later I'm still not seeing a lot of lightning bolts.

I'm a bit unsure myself, but look at it this way. Berry is an anchor of the defense, if he weren't there we would be in big trouble. So he does have significant value to the team, and I think this justifies his high selection. I'll take Eric Berry type picks over TJax/Dorsey/Baldwin picks any day. (I still saw value in Baldwin before he was traded, I think Cassel had a lot to do with his suxx)

He was touted as a Tony Gonzalez type safety--a guy capable of redefining the position and changing gameplans. The truth is that he's been closer to Kellen Winslow II, incredibly productive in college and loved by scouts but underwhelming in the pros, than he has been Gonzalez--a generational player who lived up to the hype.

We have two above average starters and two decent backups.

That's all you can ask for from any class.

I'll take a C pick over an F pick too, but that doesn't make the C pick any better than a C.

Earl Thomas is a far better safety than Berry, and he was taken almost ten picks later in the first.

The Chiefs had a top five pick, two second rounders, and two third rounders in a very deep draft class and turned that into a bunch of blech.

You need to draft an elite player in the top five of the draft, and Eric Berry is not elite. You should look for solid starters in the second, and Arenas is gone and McCluster is a gadget player.

If we got that out of the 2009 draft I'd see your point, but 2010 was a much, much better draft.

probability states we could have had a monkey fling poo on the draft board on draft day and hit on better players than the moves Fat Scott did that day

paying Fat Scott premium GM money in the NFL so he can trade up for a TE his buddy told him about and flip a hall of fame TE to his other buddy on the Falcons so he can then draft some ****ing crappy CB that his other shit buddy at Alabama tells him to

he would only draft and stick to his stupid high bro failure tree of coaching friends. And that's why we have more duds than hits. These guys from that Browns team know nothing

Berry came on strong in the last 8 games. If he's going to legitimately prove to people that he was the player the entire league's scouts made him out to be, it's gonna have to happen this year.

If not, then that's okay. I've been told from Eric Fisher's fans that it's completely alright to just shoot for adequate/good when you get drafted in the top 5 and don't play a premier position.

I'd like to one day be able to go pick-by-pick and see Mel Kiper's Top 5 best available players each time we select, and pick one of those guys. I'll betcha it's a million times better than any of Scott's drafts.

The problem is I'd need to see that information as it was at the time of each pick from those many years. I can't think of a way to make that happen other than to find entire recordings of each draft and parse through each one until the Chiefs pick in each round. I'd be at it forever to get results that I'm already pretty confident match my prediction.