Final thoughts on preseason
 

This team just looks better. Just all around, even our suck is better than our suck in years past. You can tell we have a staff of coaches that know wtf they are doing. It's refreshing as we haven't seen that since the DV days when you get to it.

Obviously we haven't played a meaningful down yet and you can tell that there is room to improve but I think everyone is getting the sense that we are doing just that, improving. Worst to first? Most likely not but in this division it may not be unreachable.

Offense:
Running game looks rather weak but we were without JC against SF and went against the Steelers the next game. 2 very, very good defenses. So is our running game that bad or were we facing good defenses? Probably some of both.

Smith is going to be the proverbial game manager and if his preseason is any indication of what is to come that can suffice for now. His throws are accurate and receivers aren't jumping, reaching, diving, or sliding to catch passes ala Cassel. Don't turn it over, control the clock, rest the defense. That is a winnable recipe even if it is a boring one.

Tyler Bray......kid is going to be good in 2-3 years. If he pays attention to who he is learning from, we are going to have a bad ass QB.

Defense:
Its on! This defense is getting after it and though it may be a feast or famine defense, it's obvious that the days of Romeo's read-react defense is gone. This is attack, attack and attack some more. I think Poe and TJax are going to take big steps in the right direction this year.

Special Teams:
What can you say? They looked awesome all preseason long.


I see shades of Marty ball coming with a ball control offense, relentless defense and strong special teams. We just replace the power running with dinking and dunking in the passing game.

Yep, everything that is old is new again. It's 1989 again!!

Our running game certainly looks improved.

To me, the whole preseason was a dumpster fire outside one TD drive and some decent defense (which was awful against the Steelers), so whatever. Homer on.

I'd take Marty Ball after the crap we've been seeing for awhile.

Bray reminds me of a young Favre. Trusts his arm a little too much. Occasionally makes a dumb decision. But, that's what young people do. This kid has a chance to be special.

Yes, holding the Steelers to a field goal.

That's... that's a terrible defense.

Awww, cry some more because we didn't put 50 pts up against 2 of the best defenses in the league.

This was a very positive offseason.

The scrubs got a ton better as it went on, and the starters outplayed the Saints and the Steelers, with only the 49ers getting the better of them, and honestly that was as much a draw as anything.

I am trying to be cautious here. This team looks really good, but its holes at receiver and lack of depth in the secondary has me very concerned.

If we had a batch of reliable hands at receiver, I'd say 11 wins is not that far off.

Our receiver batch is so shaky, however, that if we get past 7 wins, I'll be surprised.

I've got to admit, it's getting BRAYter

It's getting BRAYter all the time...

The only thing I got out of this preseason, is that now I kind of hope a golf cart carrying AS and CD flips over and breaks their throwing arms. This would get Bray onto the field and finally we have our young quarterback that the Chiefs will be committed to developing. But in the mean time I'm ok with Marty-ball style football if it means getting to the playoffs quickly.

Thoughts? It was the preseason.

Well know what we've got next weekend

We gave up like 200 yards, and they were within a bobble of putting up 17 points pretty easily.

That was not an impressive defensive performance, homer. Wide open receivers EVERYWHERE.

The defense and special teams were a dumpster fire?

With each successive post, you prove that you know little to nothing about NFL football.

Turn the knob to the right....

Even if you are a fan of Bray, you should be more a fan of Bray sitting on the bench for a year or two than a fan of Alex getting hurt. Bray would likely fail miserably if he were thrown in now. Let him sit and learn.

Okay. Who are you, and what have you done with pete?










Let's run a test: what did you think of the officiating, Pete?

The special teams were very good.

Rest of the team...meh.

Seeing our first team offense get worked by the 49ers (and their backups) and Steelers, outside of one drive, was disgusting.

Defense was good against San Francisco's backups, and shit against Pitt's starters.

Anybody know what's up with the Chiefs policy of not letting you take your bottle of water out of the stadium? There were multiple stadium employees forcing people to either drink or throw away their bottles of water. And it didn't look like it was going over very well. You can take a bottle of water in, but apparently not back out again. WTF?

Come on, Dane......Smith did throw for 3000 yard and 27 TD's against 2 playoff teams and the defense allowed the other teams to score regardless of how little.

That's a clear fail

/Clay

Wow... I only came up with, "I want to **** all the cheerleaders - home or away"!!!

I think he's better than LJ. 2.8 YPC > 2.7 YPC.

This "bobble", is that the play where flowers knocked the ball lose?

Oh we'll. if we found on video that he actually did knock it lose, it would be a "who cares they still suck".

Moving along

parking lot litter?

6-10 w/o JBTE

With the way the rules are now, and passing the easiest it has ever been in the NFL for Qb's to get gaudy stats, I say trial by fire over sit and learn. I just think if he gets 'shelved' by Reid for a couple years, because he was not a 1st round draft pick (or draft pick at all), I think he will get cut before he gets a legitimate chance. Just my opinion though.

Flowers didn't knock the ball loose. The receiver lost control of the ball as he hit the ground.

Our secondary got worked in that game, against a team without a #1 receiver, and it was pretty scary.

I liked some things and there are still areas of concern.

There is an improvement at qb from 1-3, but Daniel doesn't look like a leader of a 10-11 game team. Smith is exactly the game manager right now, but he's shown himself to be mobile. My biggest gripe with him would be he's been too cautious, but it was pre-season so we'll see. Charles should put up great numbers running and receiving in this offense. Bray has a really nice arm, but we'll see how his brain, work ethic, footwork and decision making improve. Hopefully we don't see him on the field until next August.

My biggest concern is the O-line, especially early in the season. I think they'll improve as the season goes on and its' fortunate that Jax is the first game to get their feet wet.

I"m thrilled with the special teams....great kicks, big returns, blocked kicks......huge improvement here which shows improvement in those spots 40-53 to me.

The defense is going to be more exciting and they're going to get burned on occasion. I'll take that.

One thing:

Superbowl.

I'd say you are wrong..seems I remember Flowers getting an arm in there and forcing it loose.

Nope.

Dude, you're being intellectually dishonest.

The defense looked excellent. Defenses are going to give up points in the National Football League. That's a given. But to hold Pittsburgh's ones, in Pittsburgh, to 10 points, especially after the Andy Reid "Gimme" was impressive.

The Chiefs Two's beat Pittsburgh's Two's. For all of the Chase Daniel "hate", he beat Gradkowski, who's been a starter in this league. Again, impressive.

Special Teams have been extremely impressive. If this continues into the regular season, they'll be a factor in every game and might be the difference between winning and losing many games. A short field always helps the offense.

And finally, you can bitch and moan all you want about Alex Smith not throwing down the field, which is a given. But he was accurate, mistake-free and led the offense to touchdowns, at home and on the road, without the benefit of a strong running game or circus catches by his receivers.

That's the safest way to approach it.

Makes it hard to disappointed.

I prefer to go "balls out" optimistic.

It's worth the risk.

I'm a slow starter to get on the bandwagon this year....it's been soooooooooo long since I've had good reason to give a fornication about this team.

FYP

I'd say you are.

Offensively, there was nothing to like, apart from one drive.

And in our ONLY test against a team's starting offense, the secondary was a dumpster fire.

Seeing that Alex can actually lead a TD drive was nice, though. So, 7-9, perhaps.

This is going to bite us in the ass, Smith is a hesitant and cautious ******* Qb. Never hesitate.

What about TYLER "2ND BEST CHIEFS QB NAMED TYLER AND ALSO 2ND BEST QB OF ALL TIME" BRAY???

I believe Flowers got burned on that play and the guy just lost it on the ground

Hmm.. Wow. I had not considered that at all. That makes me feel slightly less critical... But still, I laughed walking through. That's silly...

Alex Smith doesn't have to be Tom Brady.


If he can turn into Mobile Trent Green(2003) It'll be a shitload more enjoyable season that we've seen in a long time.

Yeah but its hard on secondarys when you have a QB like Ben that can extend plays. He did that a few times on us. He was playing well. I'm not saying it will be perfect, but we'll be fine on D i believe

Trent Green was good at throwing tho

No signs of that in preseason.

Not one single completion traveled over 20 yards in the air.

Forgive me but it seems like a Pioli era thing. Weird.

THIS, right here !!

If they don't improve, Charles will only be effective out of the backfield,slot or WR which is good he can play all those spots but there ain't going to be any Charles Jets taking off between the tackles or on sweeps I'm afraid.

They clearly improved over the course of 4 (okay, 3 really) games and nobody key was injured. That's about as positive as a preseason can be.

I'm really interested to see how they look running the actual gameday systems on both sides of the ball.

Was Trent Green seen as really impressive early in his KC career? No.

There is a reason and to 'Iowanian's point' about the O-line. I think Reid sees the O-line still is a work in progress and he doesn't want to get his QB killed.

It is SO easy to be negative about the Chiefs. No risk.

If you're wrong, big deal. That means they might actually be good and all you have to say is, 'I'm glad I was wrong'.

Pussies.

LMAO

Hey bros, I think Matt Cassel can turn it around!

Agree here.

Sounds like Kielce is a minor thing tonight too so that's good.

Hell our 3 and 4 stringers looked decent and better than the packers tonight. That hasn't happened in a while

Correct. I think Phobia coined him "TrINT" for awhile.:LOL:

Cause it's so hard to be positive?

No way. Really? Tell us the story!!!

Problems on offense: short yardage conversions between the tackles and obviously the home run pass.

My prediction is the Oline will make people cringe the first 3-4 weeks and will gel around that time and as Fisher gains playing time and confidence and the middle of the line figure each other out again, the line will be pretty good by Mid October....in time for the division games.

It really is with this franchise.

I'm clinging to the hopes that sprang from literally 1 minute of this preseason.

There's a difference between negative and realistic.

This team's not a great team. If they end up playing beyond their abilities, hey, fun season. No reason to hype myself up for a team I know isn't quite there yet.

Just what I heard and I don't know if that is true. If you are the one who did, then kudos to you.

Sure.

If its that rough for you, I hear the bucks need more fans. You liked freemen once upon a time.

Ricky Stanzi was Matt Cassel.

Alex Smith is not.


I'm not a big Smith fan and no one can say they've seen me cheering the signing. I'm cautiously optimistic that he's going to be a significant improvement over anything we've had here since Trent Green's eggs were scrambled by the Bengals.

That isn't the same thing as proclaiming him Tom Brady II.

My prediction is(barring injury) Smith ends the season as a 10-15 ranked qb in Yards-TD-INT

Let's hope:)

Can anybody confirm this wild rumor????????

How about non-negative?

I'm always excited this time of year, regardless of how I think the Chiefs are gonna do. ITS FOOTBALL SEASON!

we look like a team again .. players a lot smarter .. coaching 100 times better .. so here we go .. GO CHIEFS ......

Confirmed. You $marmy little $hit

I am too.

I'm just saying its no harder or easier to say "we are the awesome, 10-6" every year same as the "shift factory ass ****s, 5 wins"

It only makes sense. Some are young, some are returning from injuries and they're implementing a new blocking scheme for a new and improved Oline coach.

It will take a little while but that is a recipe for improvement.

This is a passing league.

What signs did we show of being able to stop the pass?

Very little. 0 sacks for Hali and Houston. Wide open receivers everywhere. The opposition left two long TDs on the field because of an overthrow and a bobbled ball.

What signs did we show of being able to pass?

Well, there was that 60 seconds last week.

So, yeah.

That's where I'm at.

Wild rumor ??? I just saw Phobia use the term and remember reading someone else's post that they thought he came up with that term. But hell RACER don't get your thong in a wad. You are gonna make me think you have a weak sensitive ego here if you keep going;)

Forgot about that deep ball that Flowers got toasted on in the first game, too.

If Flowers has lost a step, yeesh.

Our starting qb was on pace for 300 yards passing against last years top defense. I'd say that's a sign of something

New defensive scheme, different coverage philosophy and new pieces playing together. Like the offensive line, I expect improvement between weeks 1-4 and something fun to watch in Oct.

Yes.