Alex Smith vs. Rich Gannon
 

My view is that Andy Reid has no use for "game manager" QBs. What skills did Rich Gannon have that Alex Smith does not? Rich Gannon passed for about 4500 yards one year a Reid-like offense. Why can't Alex Smith do the same? Not saying he will, but help me understand why it's not going to happen.

Because Alex Smith sucks. Now go away.

Tim Brown and Jerry Rice. Unless you go get you TWO HOF WR's it's not very likely.

Edit: It was 4600 yards as well.

Moeaki may have played more healthy games as a Chief.

Gannon piled up all those stats in a dink and dunk offense and was helped out a lot by YAC.

Certainly he was a gamer and I admire what he did in the league with minimal giftedness, but I don't put a lot of stock in his stats. He was a system QB.

Again, not saying Alex Smith will put up huge numbers, but the Gruden-Gannon combination seems to me a good comparison to Reid-Smith.

You need WR's to put up yards. You also need to throw to them consistently.

It's just not a good look with the personnel the Chiefs have.

Jamaal Charles should be the focal point of this offense. He's by far your best player and he needs to get the ball consistently for the team to be successful.

If not, I really think you guys could struggle. At least early.

So, Rich Gannon was a fraud?

No. He was good.

But you essentially have two 1,000 yard WR's. Jerry had 1200 and Tim Brown was just shy at 930.

Rich Gannon was a good player, and 2002 was a great year.

But that team was very talented. I mean, they did go to the Super bowl after all.

He was a product of that system. He cracked 4000 yards once, after being in that system for 4 years.He had two HOFish WRs. I was never a fan.

When Rice signed with Oakland wasn't the consensus that he was done?

I ****ing hate Rich Gannon.

Every time we get some limp dicked, over-aged, noodle-armed game manager in here, the fan base aspires to his achievement of getting his ass waxed in the Super Bowl.

**** that shit.

Fair enough. I'm just thinking Reid is thinking he can do the same thing with Smith as Gruden did with Gannon, that's all.

The problem with a thread like this, is that people will destroy it.

If the chiefs got anything close to the results out of alex smith that the raiders got with Rich, then it will be a good year.

Yeah, I mean he was only the MVP of the league.....

Who needs that?

:hump:

At this moment, I don't think we have 4500 yards worth of targets on this team. Gannon's yards went through his WR's and RB. Ours will go through Bowe, TE and RB. I don't see Fasano going for 1000 yards, which would most certainly need to happen for Smith to sniff 4500 yards.

Also, Smith is too risk adverse to take enough chances to put up big yards. I don't see that changing.

Sort of. But 1200 yards later they were back on his nuts. And he was ****in 40!

What are your thoughts on Mr. Dilfer?

Ray Lewis says wha?

Exactly. Gannon put up huge numbers with his mobility and brains in a WCO. Not saying Alex Smith will, but I think Andy Reid thinks he can.

well because Gannon had a set of balls, but Alex Smith, not so much.

You guys aren't arguing against me in this thread, you're arguing against Andy Reid. That is all.

Tis true, and cant be argued until he proves that he is willing to take risks.

I'll give Reid one year to prove he was right about Alex Smith. He's the QB he always wanted, so we should expect great things.

You will literally die from holding your breath.

I would never hold my breath for that.

Lots of things I would, not that though lol

Yep. That's the point I wanted to make.

ROFL

I'll release my opinion on Smith if his contract is renewed. Letting him play for his play is the right move imo.

My opinion (and hope) is that he is the two year stop gap(albeit at a mighty price) and Bray is ready to be a stud and take over by then.

Not even ****ing close. Gannon was a goddamned WARRIOR with they eye of the tiger, who could stretch a sideline beautifully when called for.

Now get the ****outta' here with that shit.

Get off my lawn.

So Gannon had a stronger arm than Smith?

?

Gannon lived off the middle. Didn't have the arm to use the whole field.

No he didn't.

Chiefs @ Seattle, 1997. Have a re-watch.

No. But, he had better anticipation with about the same or better accuracy. He would use his athleticism to his advantage.

Rich Gannon was just cerebral.

On another note; my goddamned avy is ****ing prophetic.

That's the question. Reid thinks Smith can be Gannon, Clay and Raised on Rats disagree.

Shrugs. I have no idea. Im an Alex Smith guy. I just am not sure......

I don't see it, and Gannon didn't have Bowe. Or "a Bowe".

Rison? Negro please.

There's a difference between being capable of throwing a football 30 yards and being able to do it with effectiveness in the NFL.

Just being able to throw the ball that distance isn't all there is. hitting a wide open man with a rainbow when he's behind a DB is one thing, but throwing the ball hard on a line between the corner and safety on a deepish out pattern is a different kind of throw. Anybody in the NFL should be able to do the former.

I see the comparison. I cant see Alex Smith being aggressive like Gannon was though.

That's our season. Reid thinks Smith can be Gannon. Either he can be or he can't be.

Do I want 97 Gannon or 2013 Smith leading this team? That's the question(between the two options of course), and it's not even a question.

Rich Gannon wasn't afraid to throw the ball and make a play. Alex plays tentative football.

Gruden made chicken salad out of chicken shit. You don't start with chicken shit by choice. Gannon (1999) and Smith (2013) are similar in that there are guys with better potential to work with. You are hoping to turn them into over achievers. Gannon (2002) wasn't good enough. That project was ultimately a failure.

????? What the **** is this? Do you have lunch with Reid or something? Did you buy?

Now THAT I would be impressed with.

they also had 21 TD's rushing that season Gannon threw 4600 yds. he had 26 TD's.

RB Garner was tearin it up that year, RB Crockett was a TD machine too.

If the Chiefs could score 21 TD's running it, I think Smiff will be fine.

And is DBowe Tim Brown? oh boy. He says he's gonna lead the league. Time to roll Dwayne.

From the looks of this O so far, Avery is going to get lots of looks.
And Bowe is Bowe.
I will take any bet right now that barring injury, Smith has a more productive year statistically than any he ever had with San Fran.

Can we clone Marcus and bring him back too?

Because Alex Smith makes Whiners cry. Now go cry ROFL

So you think Reid has a hard-on for a guy who is going to throw for 2500 yards? Shoot me now.

Chiefs fans have earned the right to bitch. Go **** yourself. None too gently.

I think Reid traded two 2nd round picks for Alex Smith. Enough said.

It's a known fact that Reid has serious man-love for Axl. Love clouds judgement.

to cry? lol if Alex Smith takes the Chiefs to the play-offs. You can choose to cry more ROFL

Lets have it Sweet Dick.

Your projections for Smith.

Man up.

Hate is more delusional than love, especially in this case ROFL

I know lol, kid needs to man up ROFL

So the REAL question is Andy Reid evaluation of Alex Smith similar the Pioli's evaluation of Matt Cassel?

So he could crack 3200 yards passing and 20 TDs?

This. But with likely better results.

My prediction?

Disappointment.

2893, 16 TD's.

My anger gives me focus, makes me strongah.

Either Alex Smith plays like Rich Gannon under Gruden or Andy Reid is a moron and we'll suck until Clark cleans house again.

All you need to know is, Andy Reid knows QBs better than Pioli.

Furthermore Alex Smith is 1000000x smarter than that idiot in Philly who was dumb enough to throw away a starting QB career that pays millions for getting involved with a stupid crime like dog fighting... Vick was lucky Reid gave him another opportunity to be a starting QB, but only cause McNabb was at the end of his road in Philly.

Play-offs. Whiners be gone lol

Over nothing you can control? ROFL

WIN in the playoffs, or GTFO.

After what you guys are use to? ROFL

Just die, already.

Now, how confident are you in that.

Lets say we had an injury free bet that says if he throws for less than 3000 yards you win.
If he throws for more than 3400 I win.
No one win in between. Winner gets full Av Sig etc. Control.

You got the balls, Sweet Chuck?

Same to you whiner ROFL

My guess is he does, but I thought Pioli would be a a great GM, so shows you how much I know....I don't know much, and am arrogant like everyone on here, but I think Reid's tenure here will be defined by Alex Smith. Either he will suck or be good.

Goddamned right, *****a'; lets do this.

All depends on how healthy J Charles can be and how well the o-line can come together.

2011 Alex Smith led 49ers: 13-3.

Geez how bad is it that the Alex Smith supporters are confident that he will be able to rip off 200 yards per game.