Peyton sour grapes
 

I don't want to just come off sounding like I can't stand to see Peyton with his 12" forehead sitting on the sidelines grinning (although I can't) and it's not because when you watch NFL network or ESPN all they talk about is Broncos...but sometimes I just cant help thinking Bowlen and Elway have naked pictures of NFL officials wives or something.
Is it me or do the donks get 90% of the calls going their way? One play in particular; they horsecollar Romo for a sack...no call...GUARANTEED if that had been Manning, pink flags would have flown. Holding on running plays easily picked up by replay...not called.:banghead:
I'm not saying they arent a good team, just frustrating we are having the best start in a decade and so are the freaking donks, just don't think they need the 13-14th man on the field helping them. OK so maybe it's just sour grapes after all?:deevee::cuss:

Non calls go both ways

I dunno about that but I do know the refs were on the take yesterday against the Chiefs. Never seen so many stupid pink flags.

no doubt, just got to see the Chiefs on Redzone so only see the good, not the bad or the ugly.

The Chiefs won a highly questionable call yesterday with Alex Smith. The late hit out of bounds. IMO it wasn't late....the NFL protects its QBs.....it is what it is.
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The only athlete on Manning's level of favoritism from officials was Michael Jordan.

Don't be disingenuous. IT's been like this since 2004.

Oh ffs

It is what it is.


All that you need to ask any Denver fan that denies it is,"What happened when Manning played you while he was in Indy?"

Sometimes you just don't see it when you are on the inside.

Since we are direct rivals we tend to go overboard the other way, though.

It wasn't a collar, the defender had a handful of jersey above the name. I thought the same thing until I saw the review.

This.

The call was consistent with how they call any hits on QBs.

The two that stood out the most to me were the blatant pick on the Thomas catch towards the end of the game and the clear as day holding on the shovel pass TD. Any other team, those are called. Seems we get called for OPI every other game.

Agreed, though I was thinking that it was helmet to helmet that caused the call, not a late hit. But they called it a late hit. He also hit him with the helmet on the helmet.

I don't think it should have been called, but with the way they protect QB's, it's just gonna.

Not even close. KC was butchered yesterday. The Bowe out of bounds was ridiculous.
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Unless your in pile high and your a donk.

Now, we have the MFL, the Manning Football League. He's being protected because he's a cash cow for the league and he's a great player.

Someone needs to get a hold if that neck under a sack pile before you see him stop getting every call.

I agree but, they also had a phantom pass interference call on Berry. It would have ended a drive in which they scored a TD. It goes both ways most of the time.

Nonsense. I watched your game. There were a number of awful calls that went the Chiefs way. And the Cowboys got some calls too, especially holding calls.

Name them

This.

And the ridiculous call of Bowe stepping out of bounds (which someone already mentioned above) when he NEVER ACTUALLY STEPPED OUT.

Even if the Chiefs had challenged (not sure if you even can) it wouldn't have mattered because the officials 'blew the whistle' so the play would have been stopped either way.

The NFL really needs to do some work on its officials! With all the work they're supposedly doing to eliminate bad calls, they're really flubbing some very obvious ones.

Also, on the Alex Smith 'late hit', I agree. I don't think it was late either, BUT that is how they are calling it consistently and this league is all about protecting QB's at all costs. Brady and Manning get that call EVERY time!

It was nice to see Alex given the same consideration.

Complaining about refs is the loser way out. Every fan can do it...bad calls happen...good calls happen that are seen as bad by the fans of the team that they go against. Refs are just a part of the game. Who else is sick of the Cardinals fans who still bitch about one call in the '85 series...don't be that fan. Grow up and deal with it.

It's tough to say on the Bowe call. We didn't really get a close enough look at it and the ref was right there. I wish they had had given us a closer view. The worst I saw was a none call. When Battle broke that long run Levitre was practically bear hugging Poe. It was the most blatant holding I think I have ever seen.

I've uploaded a video in youtube but because I am a newbie I can't post it, someone go to this youtube.com/watch?v=MaybfbBoFd8&feature=youtu.be

PS. Someone start a thread and use the link, I can't

I feel like the referee's can't give you a win out right but they can call a lot on you to make you lose, and Denver have am in the back pocket and like Dallas GB SF...... it's a popular contest and always will we won because of Big Red if we had another coach calls wouldn't go the Chiefs way

Unless they clearly see it they are supposed to let the play go so that they can fix it with a review if needed.

The ref must have saw something we couldn't.

That and the fact that the hit on Smith was the second close call along the sidelines by TN.

The late hit call got waved off, and rightfully so, but I think the refs were sending a message.

There. This.

The missed and bad calls tend to even out over time.

They need to ditch the pink flags. I keep confusing them with the pink towels

Yeah that has got to go...

Every fanbase thinks their team gets screwed by the officials.

Yeah, it's part of the dance. Beauty is, it always gets decided on the field in the end...

The NFL is not letting defenders have free shots at qbs. Smith was clearly heading out of bounda. Right call by todays interpretation of the rule.

Here is the link if you guys missed it for the Bowe supposed out of bounds, can't post links so you will have to add the w's youtube.com/watch?v=MaybfbBoFd8

Horse collar is legal if the QB is in the pocket.

My theory on the "Manning Factor": Since every play is crucial in beating him, everything is amplified in terms of what people think they see.

Besides, where do people look when they watch the game? At their own team. When the defense is on the field you watch the lines very close, and when offense is on the field we watch the QB.

If you watch the QB you aren't going to see your own team holding very much. I would assume if I watched the Chief's O-Line I would be amazed at what goes uncalled.

I think the late hit was the defender launched himself, lead with the head gear, the hit was up around the shoulders and Smiths head got whiplashed. I agree the penalty was weak, but I can see how the ref "saw something" and threw the flag

Great points. It's said there could be a hold called on almost every play and I believe it.
2 5-0 teams in the west, raping the nfc. Loving it.

Bowes play is not reviewable because the ref stopped it right there. That is one of those places where I feel the ref should let it go and let replay do its job.

I don't want to go too far and sound like SEC fans, but I am glad the West is beating some ass once again.

It's just a little sweeter when it's the NFC East getting smacked around.

there was also a play yesterday where Smith slide and got a little shoulder. Nothing that was a brutal hit or anything, but had the light touch on the QB been on one of the golden boys, you bet your ass a flag would've been thrown.

You mean the best division in football . . . . . . . . ??


LOL

No. The AFC North holds that title.


Wait, what.....LMAO

I know the play you are talking about and thought the same thing.

It was a good non-call, IMO, but if it had been Brady or Manning, all 3 officials would be racing to see who could get their flag out first.

When the refs decided to let Pey Pey get away with the Intentional Grounding pass (and I can't emphasize INTENTIONAL enough) they wound up converting the 3rd and 10 (which should have been 3rd and 20) and trying the game on the drive.

Long story short the refs decided this game, just like the refs gave Pey Pey a phantom roughing the passer in the AFC Championship that let to his only Super Bowl Win*

must be nice playing for franchise that's so pusssified the only way they can win is by cheating the salary cap, pouring crisco on their lineman, and having the refs bail them out with bullshit on a regular basis.

:eek:

Lots of Anger in this post . . . . .


You can almost feel the hatred.

I really hope Oakland/SD is good enough to challenge for a WC.


Pretty cool to have 3 AFCW teams in the playoffs.

Remember, its not a game, it's a multi-billion dollar business, and St. Manning is its No. 1 asset.

Yesterday's game was not only bent - it was theater. Romo throws for 500 yards, moves the ball at will, but then on the last drive turns into Blaine Gabbert? And everybody on earth knows that Denver will score and the only chance Dallas has is to get the ball afterward - yet they fight and scrape as if Denver was playing to tie? Bullshit.

The look on Romo's face as the final seconds ticked away didn't appear to me to be the anguish of losing - it looked more like sad resignation. This is the way it is, and there's nothing we can do. They were told to lay down, and they laid down.

FYP

Can you link the gambling/fixing thread?


I never did get to read all of it.

It's amazing how you can post with your head completely stuck up your ass. But I guess you've learned to adjust over the years.

Merci, mon frere.

That cat looks miserable.


That guy is lucky he didn't try that with an ocelot. Bummer for us.

They need to make penalties a challengable part of the game. It wouldn't slow anything down, and the coaches still have a limit to how many times they can challenge.

This would be especially useful in many instances where pass interference is called, and in a TON of instances where the official thinks he sees leading with the helmet when it is actually a clean shoulder hit in reality.

The quality of officiating has been going downhill for quite some time. Its devolved so badly that we have teams getting extra downs due to the Herm Edwards-esque ineptness of some of these officiating crews.

The game is fast, and its a difficult job. If the officials need the replay system to get the game right, then use it. To have a game be turned on a bullshit call, or a non-call is the most infuriating thing about being a sports fan.

In a game of inches, anyone who says that a bad call by the officials is no big deal needs to take their head out of their ass. If you have a unit that is struggling, and they get a stop on a powerhouse offense like Manning's, only to have a bad call give that offense a fresh set of downs, that's a huge, crushing play against that defense.

Anyone with half a functioning brain cell knows that the more chances you give to a guy like Manning, the lower your chances of winning becomes.

Calling officials out on their suck ass performances doesn't make you a bad fan. It makes you a fan who wants to see the game called correctly. If these guys cant do the job, and Im not saying its an easy job by any means, but if they cant do the job they don't need to be on an NFL crew.

If anyone doesn't believe this shit goes on, go read Brian Tuohy's stuff...it happens and happens in every sport and has been for quite some time.

His info on Super Bowl III is extremely fascinating...

Oakland can challenge but be left on the outside as long as they lose twice to the Chiefs.

Wow... Did you watch the Ravens/Broncos last year in the playoffs by chance? Guess the Ravens had their officiating crew for that atrocity.....

Oh? What about calling Bowe out of bounds when he wasn't? Or Berry on PI that he never committed that lead to Ten taking the lead???

The Broncos are special...

The first round of replay showed Elway at Arrowhead, 2-3 yards beyond the line of scrimmage and threw a pass that went for a TD and even with replay they let him have it.

The Vaseline on the jerseys

Yesterday, even with replay, KnoMo was clearly down yet somehow a unobstructed, very clear view of his knee being down was still ruled as he wasn't down.

the list goes on and on but as "teams" go, the Broncos have sure seemed to get away with an awful, awful lot over the years.

You guys whine too much, you're so fixated on and bought into this notion that Denver gets all the calls. Frazod, your post cracked me up though.

You dismiss the non calls in your favor and focus so much on what happens in a Denver game, it's comical.

Whatever, douche. If the one who sucks the penis had come here we'd be getting those calls, and I'd think it was great, too.

Yeah The thing is he apparently wasn't touched prior to the knee on the ground. I couldn't see it on any replay that he was touched. Bummer but it is what it is.

Douche? That's aggressive, but whatever. Whine away.

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Didn't read the entire thread, but hopefully someone at least mentioned the Bettis coin toss somewhere in all of that. JFC, that was a joke if I ever saw one.

But that counts asa collar now. I have seen it called a half dozen times.

The nfl does miss calls going against their elite qbs. Peytons obvious intentional grounding.
Next play convert the long pass on 3rd. Then score.

I love Peyton as a qb sans him joining the donks. But he gets tons of calls his way. And the new nfl rules play in his favor.

Crappy thread title. Peyton isn't having sour grapes YOU are.
I am assuming that you are blaming the refs bias on Peyton.

:thumb: Manning is definitely the beneficiary of some questionable calls or no calls as are many other elite players on both sides of the ball imo. There are typically calls in all games for both teams that are questionable. Most of the time the stripes get them right. Some times they don't. It happens and always will.

Oh do tell?

What I think is comical is that you actually believe your team is so good because of the point spread you are able to put up against poor defensive teams. Ravens, Giants, Eagles, Raiders, and now the Cowboys. It's comical that you give Peyton so much credit when you have only played 2 away games and the benefit of calls are going to go your direction when you play at home. I just wish that when Peyton got his head spun sideways yesterday by a face mask that the cowboy would have simply forced it a little bit more so this Manning love fest would be over with the media. Just a little more to the left and up and your season would be done. Oh it will happen.

Manning will be protected for the rest of his career- he sells a lot of advertising.

Damn dude...

= A$$HOLE.... At the end of the day, it's just a game my friend. Wishing bodily harm on anyone is just bad karma imo.

Oh I hit a nerve! LOL

No, you just acted like an asshole...

I'm not upset at all honestly. I just think it's a sad statement...

I don't think the refs intentionally are biased toward one QB or another, but I do think that the elite QBs are able to get in the refs' heads a bit more when it comes to non-calls on roughing the passer plays. I can think of one time in particular when Tom Brady straight-up convinced the ref to throw the flag.

Aside from that though...it all evens out. Every team thinks that holding is always called against their OL and is never called against the other team.

LOL!!!
Pompous donkey fans, play a real defense.

Lol yeah, the cowboys were told to take a dive... ROFL

ARE YOU ****ING INSANE