Let's Take A Vote: The Trade Deadline Approaches
 

We're less than 24 hours away from the trade deadline in the NFL. Props to the league for pushing the deadline back, adding more teams to the mix that are either giving up or making a push. These probably aren't realistic, but I'll put options out there. I'm not saying these are viable, just what's thrown out there. And I'm not putting Jordan Cameron on here. You choose which option you prefer:

Poll Forthcoming.

-Blackmon for a 1st.
-Blackmon for a 3rd and a 2015 conditional pick.
-Gordon for a 1st.
-Gordon for a 3rd and a 2015 conditional pick.
-Gonzalez for a 5th or later.
-Fred Davis for a 6th.
-Other
-Don't do anything. Let our coaches develop the guys we have and go with the guys that got us here.
-Gaz for a Lifetime Mod Membership on the Mange.

As I said in another thread:

The only thing that concerns me about Gordon is his off the field issues. Isn't he one strike away from a year long suspension?

Also, he is on his last year on his contract, correct?

I don't know if I really want to give up a first round just for Gordon, considering he'd be only a 8+ game rental, and he could bolt for FA, although, I am aware of the franchise tag, so there's that.

If Cleveland will give us a 2nd and some lower pick in return, I might consider it.

I guess, just for me, it would not be wise to abort the first round and 2nd round pick in the same year.

Funny, no one seemed to be concerned about Jared Allen's off the field issues.

And Gordon is only in his 2nd year in the league - should be wrapped up for at least another 2 years.

Gordon or Blackmon for a 1st and I splooge. Virtual no chance of matching that value with the pick anyway.

From what I've seen, Gordon's signed through 2015. Not to say he won't hold out. And not to say he won't bitch out. But if he balls out, we'll probably be glad to deal with it.

I still like the idea of Gonzalez at a cheap pick, but am starting to warm to the idea of Gordon too. He was impressive yesterday.

We know Alex can get the ball to a TE, so my vote is TG. AND he would be a leader on offense.

Ah, a 2 year rental then? Then that makes it a little better for me to consider giving up a 1st. I still would like a draft pick in return to get as much picks as we can to build some depth.

But I understand JA's off the field issues too, but he has been, for the most part, a model citizen recently, since his last incident.

Gordon for a conditional first. For the first time we'd have a complement to Bowe

As an outsider, either of the first two trades would be completely laughable, with the laughing at directed towards the Chiefs.

Don't give up any picks for anyone.

Wow, this fanbase is dumber than I thought.

Sure, let's trade for a 37 year old TE who has lost a step or four, and has put up less than 40 yards in 5/7 games this season with MUCH better QB play.

I think trading a 6th for a one year guy to try and help you win a Super Bowl now is smarter than trading a first or two picks for a locker room cancer.

You don't see how bad we need a WR with great speed and separation. We could get by with Fasano and beard if we got Gordon

How does an old, slow TE help this team?

They need a speedy outside threat with YAC ability. Someone who can get chunks of yards.

And who is the locker room cancer?

In no way I am advocating for Tony G. However, one has to consider the fact that Alice Smiff accuracy of passes thrown in the middle of the field is better than outside of the numbers. Other than a barely lucky throw to Midget Mc****ster, his deep passes has been out right terrible.

Whereas he's better at either throwing at the swing play and/or in the middle of the field.

Now if Gordon is willing to go through the middle of the field, then fine with me, I'm all for it. Would be nice if Dwayne Bowe would un**** his head out of his ass and start playing like a actual receiver.....

I guess you didn't see the shallow cross that Gordon turned into a 47 yard gain yesterday?

I'd give a first for Gordon or Blackmon. I voted Blackmon but I'd take either.

I'd give one of our 6th's for Wade Smith and stick Allen on the bench the rest of the season.

I'd be good with getting Gordon if we don't have to burn our 1st. Even if it were a 1st I'd still consider it, seeing as he's got 2 years on his contract. I'd really want to lock him up.

I'd be ok with Gonzalez for the right price too. Nothing higher than a 5th.

I would have a hard time giving up our 1st this year. We don't have a 2cd round pick. It is a long way to the bottom 1/3 of round 3 for our first pick in the draft.
I do not want Gonzo. So if we are going to trade I guess I would have to go with Fred Davis.

Both Gordon and Blackmon have had their issues no?

TG is still a top 10 TE in this league and you don't have much there already. At worst he's still a good blocker. I don't know, it's a very romantic thought, ok!

I did, and it was a beauty of a thing. I just wish that Bowe would just get his head out of his ass and start doing those, and wouldn't have to abort a first rounder for a receiver....

Of course, another issue is the O-Line and QB..... I mean, the O-Line is just well... awful. Dare should I say that Barry Richardson was actually better than Fisher? I really wish Andy Reid would channel his inner "Todd Haley" and tell Alice Smiff to "THROW THE ****ING BALL!"

And that's all it is.

Had Gonzalez never played in KC, there's not a person here that would advocate dealing for him.

TG was in the past. Plus I would bet he will finally retire after this season is over.

I'd rather find a different TE than Gonzalez, preferably one that is much younger and has some upside, not a downside.

Give me Gordon or Blackmon for a 1st.

Trade next year's first for Gordon and offer a 5th for Gonzalez.

I'm tired of receivers who's lasts names start with B.

On the other hand.... this is Cleveland we are talking about here, the team that absolutely raped the Indianapolis trade for a 1st rounder for Richardson....

I know, different situations, since Gordon is a WR and Richardson is a RB, but still...

And here's one of the message boards of Josh Gordon as well. Some interesting takes.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Browns/comme..._trade_rumors/

Is anybody here advocating for Gordon/Blackmon really comfortable going into the 2014 draft with zero picks amongst the first sixty?

Seeing as how 95% of this board thinks the OL is a problem, and you can get quality OL in the later rounds - absolutely.

They aren't using the R1 pick on a QB, so it doesn't much matter.

Why are some people opting to give up a 1st round pick for someone when they could give up a 3rd round and a conditional pick?

That's true on the R1 pick on a QB. Plus Bray is possible QBOTF, so I'll stick with that for now.

I will say this, I would have no problem with either Gordon or Blackmon, one or the other for a first.

But I would like some picks in return, as you mentioned, quality OL in the later rounds, because I just get the feeling that KC is going to need to find another RT a lot sooner than they wished for....

I'm guessing because those people believe a R3 and a conditional is unrealistic.

Cleveland is reported to want at least a R2 pick. Not sure why anyone would think our R3 pick in the mid-late 80's is enough to get a deal done.

Seeing as though I think either of those wrs are better than what we could get in said pick slot, yea.

Wade Smith was a big under the radar loss for us a few years ago

Gordon is a significant upgrade at wr for the next 10 years who could give you a top 5 player at his position.

Yeah, I'd do it

a 3rd and a conditional 4th or 5th for Gordon.....hell yes, then a 6th for Tony id JIMP, but realistically its gonna take our 1st for Gordon.

Gordon, **** decrepit Gonzalez fools gold.

Gonna take a lot more than a 3rd and conditional to land a legit #1 with a cheap contact through '15.

Furthermore, its just a terrible slap in the face of Cleveland fans to be trying to trade away their singular biggest threat.

That team will just never get it right, always making the wrong call... heres a guy who can really spark your offense and make some slapdick QB look decent... whats the answer? trade him.

LMAO

I think I'd prefer Blackmon, too, but I'd gladly give a first for Gordon, as well.

Redskins are aggressively shopping Fred Davis

Posted by Mike Florio on October 28, 2013, 8:27 PM EDT
File photo of Davis turning to run after a catch against the New York Jets during the first half of their NFL football game in Landover
Reuters
With the trade deadline less than a day away, the Redskins are trying hard to make a deal.

Per a league source, Washington hopes to trade tight end Fred Davis.

The 2012 franchise-tag recipient tore an Achilles tendon last season. He returned under a one-year, $1 million contract, and the Redskins have phased him out of their plans, given the performances of Jordan Reed and Logan Paulsen.

The Redskins, according to the source, are aggressively shopping Davis. If a deal can’t be worked out, there’s a chance Davis will be cut.

If he’s cut after the trade deadline, Davis will be subject to waivers.

Just give them our seco-. ****.

I voted Gordon but I would take either too
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Interesting. If he gets cut, assuming he doesn't get traded, is KC first on the waiver wire, based of their record from last year? Or does the rules change during the regular season? (I admit, I forget.)

Chiefs are last now. Changed after week 4.

This team is all about the NOW. They're 8-0 with a championship caliber defense and special teams. The offense has been less than average due to a variety of reasons but adding weapons will most certainly help.

If you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Chiefs can draft a player the quality of Blackmon or Gordon in the 2014 draft at position 26-32, be my guest.

I'm all in. This is the Hot Stove League, IMO.

Hunt, Dorsey and Reid should go for it.

when does/did Kc's run as the first waiver claim end? Because if it had ended they are obviously dead last

Alex Smith will never rape your salary cap like Peyton Manning. You can afford to spend more in other areas.

I believe Florio is wrong. Davis is a vested vet. If he's released, he's not subject to waivers, he's a free agent.

He was drafted in 2008.

After trade Deadline all players go on waivers. Remember Orton and KC

Ok i see. If it came down to it and we are interested a late rd pick conditional on if he resigns or ends the season on the active roster shouldn't be hard to get a deal done. If we are even interested

Ultimately, the fan in me really wants to see Tony G go out with another first-round playoff loss. It is destiny.

Okay, that makes sense. He was drafted in 2005 and subject to the wire in 2011.

Ultimately, the fan in me really wants to see you go out with another ban. It is destiny.

I said Gordon, but I'd also say a late rounder for Tony G.

I'd give our 1st for Gordon and you wouldn't have to say thank you. We're gonna draft a WR in the 1st next year, he's essentially the pick.

Gordon and Blackmon are high risk but potentially high reward. No way I surrender a 1st for either one of these guys. Their talent is 1st rd but their character off the field issues are one away from full year suspension. Dorsey looks at building a dynasty like the Packers long term. You don't make snap impulsive decisions just to appease the short term and then end up Fing your self for the long term IMO.

But I do like Gordon a helluva a lot better than I do Blackmon.;)

That's why I can see neither being moved. Most teams are gonna want some kind of protection against either getting in trouble and for that they may as well keep them and revisit trading them this offseason

So far, CP is split 50-50 between Gordon and Gonzalez, just differing on the compensation package.

Expecting nothing, but thought it was interesting.

You know what actually makes sense is a Wade Smith for Jeff Allen swap. No picks, player for player. Smith can play C too. Allen fits the zone scheme they run much better than he does here. Young and cheap for the Texans too even if only a backup G/T

you and I don't like each other in the least. But you are absolutely correct.

If you are the Chiefs, you do whatever you have to, to get Gordon.

Hes paid as a second rounder for three more years.

You wont find a player anywhere near his caliber at pick 25+

Great post.

3 years. He signed a five year deal. And also, with his place in the drug treatment program, as stage three, he will never get a max contract.

Making him doubly enticing.

Also, to the poster above.

I get it. He could get busted for a year.

He also could blow out his knee and be lost for the year. As could any player.

The only positive to losing him to a suspension, over an injury. He comes off your cap as a suspended player.

All of the above. We can just treat our draft picks like our gov't treats money. Tell people we have them when we really don't.

With a seemingly close team like KC they may be in a position to take on a problem child. Reid sure as hell isn't afraid to.

We can offer our 5 first rounders for Aaron Rodgers.

And we can parlay him into cash to purchase a time machine in order to go back and draft him in the first place. We return back to the future and still have him...and our 5 draft picks. We won't have DJ...but we'll have Aaron Rodgers.

Anyone else this sounds like someone who wants to get traded but just can't admit it?

Why not just go the whole nine yards and go back and draft Dan Marino over Blackledge.

We are 8-0 and if we could get Blackmon or Gordon you don't hesitate. It just so happens contending came a little faster than we thought. If we were 8-0 3 years in most wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger. Just because it is happening right now doesn't mean you don't pull the trigger. I think Davis could contribute at least as much as Duck Dynasty. Gonzo for a 6th.

Yeah, that ESPN write-up on Gonzalez left me with the same impression. "What Jimmy Johnson says that it would be respectful of the Falcons, I see that."

We shall see what tomorrow brings.

If his only goal was to come back for a title, Atlanta is not going to come anywhere close to that.

He should get traded. He should go to Seattle, New England, or KC.

Shrugs. Tough choices.

Im assuming they mean Gordon, or Blackmon. Neither which are locker room cancers. They are kids, who don't know how to control themselves after the season ends. Their teammates love them.

The homer is strong in this poll.

I'd like Gonzalez first and foremost, just for the pure badassery of it.

Now, I'd also love the Gordon option.

Weren't there rumors of the Browns considering moving Jordan Cameron?

I'd take him over either Gonzalez or Gordon.