RGIII Benched because he is Black? Michael Irvin...
 

There has been no shortage of controversy surrounding Mike Shanahan’s decision to bench Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III for the rest of the season. Between speculation that Shanahan is intentionally trying to get himself fired and reports that RG3 is furious, the situation has turned into a full-blown circus. And now, Michael Irvin has attempted to introduce the race element.

During halftime of Thursday Night Football, Irvin and the rest of the NFL Network panel discussed the mess in Washington. Deion Sanders said he thought RG3 “needed a little humble pie.” Irvin basically said the Redskins wouldn’t be handling the situation the same way if they had a white quarterback.

“You are tearing him down,” Irvin ranted, via Dan Steinberg of DC Sports Bog. “I doubt that any man can come back from this, walking around three weeks around these guys that you have to lead. And I don’t want to hear about teammates either; we understand as teammates and players, quarterbacks do get special treatment.

“You don’t see people arguing when Peyton Manning or Tom Brady gets (special treatment) — I don’t want you arguing when this kid gets it. He’s the quarterback, and the rest of us brothers have to understand that and treat him as such. I’ve got an issue with all of it. … You think they could do this to Andrew Luck? Let me ask you that, you think they could do this to Luck?”

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He must have missed Shannon Sharpe's emotional rant

They wouldn't handle it this way if they had a better coach.

Too much coke Michael.

Well. That's just stupid.

Oh FFS Irvin, eat a big black dick.

The race card is so overused.

JFC... the race card in this day and age? :facepalm:

Did he really compare RG3-10 to Manning and Brady?

I hate hate hate the race card in QB discussions.

But I've found the treatmentof RGIII to be dubious at best, to be honest. There have been a handful of times where I've flipped to an analysis of Griffin without hearing the beginning of the conversation and could tell immediately it was him they were talking about because of the kind of vaguely dismissive language they used.

I mean they tend to stop short of saying 'boy', but it sure gets close at times.

My first reaction is always to dismiss this kind of bitching. And I agree he wouldn't be getting treated like this if he was performing better - his poor play is the root cause of the issue. But I do think there is some truth to the fact that he's getting a little more of the 'this kid needs to learn his place and shut up' treatment because he's a black QB. Wilson isn't getting crap because he's a minority that's playing extremely well. But I do wonder if a guy like Luck or Tannehill would be taking these kinds of arrows had they struggled like RGIII has. Tannehill's locker room has been a complete cluster!@#$ and we don't hear people blasting his leadership.

In this particular instance, I do think it's fair to ask if there haven't been some racial overtones to some of the things said about RGIII. Is that why he was benched? Nah, I don't think Shanahan's a racist. But I do think his PR has been disproportionally negative because of it.

He benched RGIII for Kirk Cousins.

He benched Donovan McNabb for Rex Grossman/John Beck

He's got a history of this shit.

He benched Terrell Davis for Mike Anderson.

{checks internet}

Holy !@#$, Mike Anderson was black? The dude's name is Mike Anderson! He could only sound whiter if his name was John Smith...or Peyton Hillis.

Didn't a ESPN employee get canned for calling RGIII too white.

I think you're discounting his attitude. He's a blame everyone but himself type of guy, and that doesn't fly when you're supposed to be the leader of your franchise.

Same thing happened to Cam Newton. When he had his struggles, it was all "he's an immature punk and that's why he's failing".

When a black QB struggles it can't just be a young QB struggling. The media always assassinates their character. I'd call it a coincidence however when the criteria of a young, well hyped black QB struggles is met, the narrative is always the same. The difference is that in Carolina the head coach wasn't the one feeding the narrative to the media.

Is he? Or does the media cherry pick his comments and release speculative reports to push this narrative?

Doug Williams

I don't think it's racist, but I think this should be proof that Rat has no ****ing clue what he's doing when it comes to QBs. This has always been the case with him, too, I think.

Wasn't the Jake Plummer experiment his idea?

Meanwhile back in the day Irvin stabbed a teammate in the neck because a rookie took his seat in the team barber's chair. The guy almost died and Irvin paid him off not to file charges.

Hes such a loud mouthed pos. Can not stand to look or listen to that ****in asshole.

Reason why RG3 is getting this treatment is because either the rat never wanted RG3 and it was a Snyder move all the way and the rats days are numbered or it could just be because they struck gold on 2 qbs in one draft and just so happens one of them is playing like shit.

Both of them are playing like shit.

Cousins had one good game last year. He has not been good in relief of RGIII and just lead his team to a loss in a battle of 3-10 teams.

They suck and it starts with a coach who's half assing it and feeding the media negative stories. I haven't seen a guy try this hard to get fired since Jeff Fisher was wrapping up with the Titans.

Excellent post.

You can't be serious.

Cam was immature.

Now I'm sure I'm right.

You know Cam?

Oh, right... you know what is reported about him. Cam was a young QB. He has to grow. The point is that this narrative seems to be saved exclusively for QB's who fit a certain criteria.

Was Michael Irvin high when he said it?

LMAO

I'm pretty sure Irvin is high when he does anything.

This is all Shanahan's ploy for another job, when he gets fired he has to say RGIII wasn't his guy and that was a Snyder move.

RGIII is no Russell Wilson.

It's so much easier to play QB when you only throw 400 passes in a season.

Pretty much every QB in the NFL is asked to do more, and Wilson is showing people that sometimes less IS MORE.

Recently I saw RGIII being called a prima donna and I wondered where that came from. How many QBs are called that? Rivers I guess but the media just spins that into his 'fire to win.' WRs often gets called divas...guess it's better than calling them "uppity."

PS: and Cam's bad attitude. I may just be looking at this with blinders, but what white QBs get called for attitude? Ryan Leaf??? OK, Cutler for sure.

Put RG3 on that Seahawks team with Carroll as his head coach and they'd still be where they are.

You must be tuned into the secret code words that cover for the seething hate for the black QB's…or something.

Why would the media have a narrative that supports the idea that black QBs are just not up to the job

Welcome back, dont be such a stranger...

Ratings.

It sells.

The media, as you may have noticed, is sensationalist. They write what sells.

Maybe it has more to do with RGIII not getting it done.


Cousins put up 380 yards and 3TDs yesterday.

Against one of the worst defenses in the league AND he blew the ****ing game.

If Cutler was black he wouldn't even have a starting job in the NFL right now. He really isn't that good and he outwardly displays a shitty attitude.

Shanny's actions with RG III have more to do with John Elway than they do with race...

It's the same reason Bray is on our team now. These are young guys. People forget that we're asking 21-23 year old's to be the leadership of a multi million dollar business.

When they're productive QB's don't get called out on their bull$#it.

It's when they suck that guys like Cutler, Cam, Ruthlessrapist, and even Brady this year get talked about.

...and RGIII really tore up the opponent the week before.


I think his problem is 3 fold. I think he came back too soon from his knee injury, he's suffering from a sophomore slump and teams have defended the zone read better this year, and I think he isn't putting in the time this year.

None of those guys get the media attention that Cam and RGIII have received for their struggles.

Except Brady, and that was more because it was incongruent with what we've seen from him... and Ben when he was raping people every other weekend.

The narrative sure wasn't "They're a selfish me-first diva". Only QB's that fit a certain criteria get that label.

This is also part of the false narrative... that Cousins is good. He turned the ball over 3 times in that game against a terrible defense.

So....you agree.

No one said Cam was a me-first guy. They were saying he let his emotions get the best of him and was acting childish in media interviews.

No one has ever said RGIII was a me-first guy. Ever. Not even now.

He's just playing like $3it...

WhiteWhale did.

Yes, because the 2013 Falcons deserve to be compared to the 2013 Chiefs.

RG3's problems are the following:

1. Came back too soon from the knee injury.
2. His offensive coordinator is a ****ing idiot that doesn't deserve the job he has.

His knee injury delayed him transitioning into a pro style offense after his first year.

No. Ben was a rapist. That has nothing to do with football. Brady is an all time great struggling for one of the first times ever in a long career. It's not the same.



Are you actually reading what is being written about him? Christ, being selfish is the main area of talk. He rushed back because he wanted to keep his job from the guy who is 'allegedly' better than him, he wants his bad plays not talked about, he blames everyone for everything, and he doesn't give credit to his team. That's pretty much all they've been talking about. Him being a self important 'all about me' asshole.

If it was just about him playing poorly, that would be different. It's not. The negative coverage is on a level rarely seen by any player, including the ones you listed.

RG3 is black? He looks more brownish to me. Not sure what the big deal is. Must be my TV.

Whitlock did.
Google "RG3 ego." It has it's own twitter handle. And "ego" is just one version of saying he's "me-first."

Either way. I'm tired of hearing about RG3 period. He won't last taking hits, and the 'skins were idiots for trading a draft away for any one player.

I just enjoy watching Shanahan shit the bed. The reason behind it is immaterial.

He's black. Must be immature :facepalm:

This. Thread stater is a known pos.

It's kind of funny that Kaepernick has mostly avoided this type of scrutiny although he's actually half black himself. I wonder if he looked more "black" would he experience something similar?

:facepalm:

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It's about maturity level. That's on and off the field.

Ben wasn't just accused of a sexual assault (and rumors of more than one) but his dumb ass was riding around on a motorcycle with no helmet, constantly having pics of him taken acting like a college drunk, and poor decision making.

When you win people forget about all that.



You didn't hear any of that before the draft or last year. There was a long line of media waiting to suck him off.

This must all be this year.

Which coincides with him sucking.

Which is my point...

He just gets criticized for having tats...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...-news/1736671/

Wins. If the 49ers had the same record as the Redskins....we'd be hearing about how Kaepernick was a fluke in his first year.

Exactly.

Suggesting there is an issue related to race with the benching of RGIII is just foolish, in my opinion. It's too bad they didn't just let him fully heal to begin with, that's the unfortunate thing here.

Shanahan makes a trade with the Eagles to acquire McNabb and then trades up a bounty of picks to select RGIII... all because he has issues with race at the QB position.

Reid dumps him in PHI near the end of his own run as HC there, then he fails in WAS and it's the HC's fault. Nice. Now, Donovan is all over this one too... oh well.

This.

What's funny about Irvin is that he occasionally makes insightful comments. This is not one of those times.

There's really very little that Irvin adds... and he should be lucky that he has a high paying gig after all the stupid things he's done.

Ponder got benched because of race, too!

I've paid no attention to the RGIII situation. What's the nominal reason for benching him? Is it poor performance, some type of ego management, or are they taking the Madden game route of "saving him until next year"?

And don't say "yes". I want to know the main reason as it's being stated. I'm too lazy to googlefish for it.

Yep. You nailed it.

RGIII Benched because he is Black? Michael Irvin...
 

He was inactivated for poor performance. Any talk of it having to do with race is silly. Shanahan says its because he's worried about him getting hurt in the last few games and missing out on another full offseason. He says off seasons are valuable to the growth of a young QB.

They wouldn't do this to Luck because Luck can actually throw the ball. RG3 is shit without his mobility. Shit like this is the reason racism still exists, it's so ignorant.

And I presume everyone's calling BS on that since game experience is more valuable to the growth of a young QB?

Well a story broke last week that Shannahan almost quit last year before the playoffs because he didn't like the special treatment Dan Snyder was giving to RG3. So people are kind of viewing it as an authority statement by Shannahan. At least that is how I have interpreted it.

That's not true.

This day and age? It's more popular than ever.

Most people feel like he rushed back from the knee injury and never fully recovered. Shanahan says he shut him down for the year for that reason.

Yes, I've heard lots of talk that three regular season games are more important to his growth than an offseason, and I tend to agree.

I live near DC, watched him every week of last year. He ran the read-option, and most of his passing yardage came off of screens and slants. Only Christian Ponder threw the ball downfield 20 yards or more less than RG3 last season. I don't remember the exact number of his receivers YAC, but his YPA were so inflated last year. The guy is good with his mobility, but he is not without it. Matt McGloin did a better job moving the ball than RG3 did against us. That should say something.

Manning and Brady are two of the greatest to ever play the game...why would they at all be comparable to a second year guy who has regressed from his first year? And he intersects A. Luck into this??? Luck and the Colts are 9-5 and playoff bound...The only racial element is with people like Irvin who would rather side track from the real problem. The red skins suck.

Ah, interesting.