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OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2013 04:57 PM

Watches: Citizen Eco-Drive, Tissot or Victorinox?
 
Looking for a new watch, and seem to have it narrowed down to three. Would love to spend $1000+ on a watch, but decided to keep it under $500.

I keep coming back to these - wondering if anyone has any experience with these specific watchmakers, or have any suggestions in my range.

Thanks!

Tissot PRS516:

http://img.rakuten.com/PIC/2445492/0/1/300/2445492.jpg

Victorinox ChronoClassic XLS:

http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/Swis/241443.jpg

Citizen Eco-Drive World Chronograph:

http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net...9493380617.jpg

Demonpenz 12-16-2013 04:59 PM

cell phones have special time feature.

SLAG 12-16-2013 05:04 PM

do they make any like that for under $75

I know you get what you pay for, and those are all some REALLY nice watches - I like the citizen myself - but wowza on the prices - props to you good sir

Phobia 12-16-2013 05:07 PM

I've had a Tag Heuer for a decade. I've had 3 Citizen Eco-drives during that time as well. The Tag is still running strong and looks like the day I bought it. The Citizens are all dead and discarded.

I recommend saving some money and waiting until you can purchase a bracelet with a sapphire chrystal face. That's the most durable face out there and Citizen doesn't use it.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2013 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 10284826)
I've had a Tag Heuer for a decade. I've had 3 Citizen Eco-drives during that time as well. The Tag is still running strong and looks like the day I bought it. The Citizens are all dead and discarded.

I recommend saving some money and waiting until you can purchase a bracelet with a sapphire chrystal face. That's the most durable face out there and Citizen doesn't use it.

I'd like to have a Tag, but would rather not spend that kind of cash.

The Tissot and the Victorinox have sapphire crystal faces, IIRC.

TheUte 12-16-2013 05:19 PM

The wife just got me an Omega for my B-day, man it's nice.
Save up and go for a little bit nicer watch.

If you like watches it is worth waiting.

ShortRoundChief 12-16-2013 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 10284792)
cell phones have special time feature.

This.

The only way I can go without losing a time keeping device is if I can call the damned thing.

stonedstooge 12-16-2013 05:21 PM

I collect and work on watches. Can't go wrong with an Omega Seamaster, although if 500 clams is your cutoff, you'll be looking at a used one. Get an automatic and not a battery powered quartz watch

Phobia 12-16-2013 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10284843)
The Tissot and the Victorinox have sapphire crystal faces, IIRC.

Well - I'm not familiar with their movement but I feel strongly about the sapphire crystal. When a watch has that crystal, it protects as well as anything out there and resists scratches/breaks.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 10284864)
I collect and work on watches. Can't go wrong with an Omega Seamaster, although if 500 clams is your cutoff, you'll be looking at a used one. Get an automatic and not a battery powered quartz watch

$500 is far from my cutoff, I'd just prefer not to spend more.

I certainly don't want to spend $3k on a watch.

TheUte 12-16-2013 05:25 PM

Have you thought about used.

You can get some good deals.

Saul Good 12-16-2013 05:28 PM

I was watching television with my wife...literally yesterday...and saw a Citizen commercial and asked her, "who the hell buys a Citizen watch"?

Titty Meat 12-16-2013 05:29 PM

Rolex.

Phobia 12-16-2013 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10284892)
I was watching television with my wife...literally yesterday...and saw a Citizen commercial and asked her, "who the hell buys a Citizen watch"?

People with money to burn. They're crap.

Phobia 12-16-2013 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10284876)
$500 is far from my cutoff, I'd just prefer not to spend more.

I certainly don't want to spend $3k on a watch.

I'll sell you my rolex for $2995.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 10284896)
People with money to burn. They're crap.

Good to know.

Saul Good 12-16-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 10284896)
People with money to burn. They're crap.

If you're trying to be a baller, drop a few grand and get something good. Otherwise, grab something for $150 or less. Nobody is impressed by a $500 watch, and that's really the only reason to spend more than $150 on one.

Saulbadguy 12-16-2013 05:35 PM

Citizen? You might as well slap on a Timex. t's and p's.

Saul Good 12-16-2013 05:36 PM

FWIW, I've owned a Tissot and a Victorinox...both a decade ago or more as gifts. The Victorinox started running backwards, and the Tissot got lost. I can't completely blame the Tissot, but I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame, and that ain't happening.

Phobia 12-16-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10284904)
Good to know.

Let me revise that... there's obviously a spot in the market for them. They're not complete garbage. But I've never owned one for 3+ years. They take a dump on me in the first couple years. That's a waste of $300 from where I stand. That having been said, I am hard on watches.

kevonm 12-16-2013 05:40 PM

I have been wanting a titanium Tissot T-Touch for a while. Got a hamilton khaki automatic - great watch for the price

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10284912)
If you're trying to be a baller, drop a few grand and get something good. Otherwise, grab something for $150 or less. Nobody is impressed by a $500 watch, and that's really the only reason to spend more than $150 on one.

Not looking to be a "baller" - just looking for the best watch for the money.

If I wanted to ****ing impress people, I'd go blow $5-10k on a Rolex, Omega or Breitling.

Titty Meat 12-16-2013 05:44 PM

OTW is the humble Dane McCloud. Dude is buying watches, playoff tickets, and dining at st. Elmos.

BigMeatballDave 12-16-2013 05:49 PM

People still wear watches?

Seems like a huge waste of money since you can just look at your phone.

HonestChieffan 12-16-2013 05:55 PM

Ill never own another citizen. Great watch for looks but the crystal is shit if you do real work. Scratch like a bitch. I have the Blue Angels watch. I also have a TAG and wont have a second. My current favorite is a seiko And my indestructable is a Timex.

HonestChieffan 12-16-2013 05:58 PM

Go big. Get a Rolex Submariner

Saul Good 12-16-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10284952)
Not looking to be a "baller" - just looking for the best watch for the money.

If I wanted to ****ing impress people, I'd go blow $5-10k on a Rolex, Omega or Breitling.

$500 isn't really a value point in watches, IMO. If you aren't trying to be a baller (and I don't mean that as a pejorative), then you might as well spend $100- $150 and call it good. A $500 watch doesn't look any better, last any longer, nor hold its value any more than a less expensive alternative.

Simply Red 12-16-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10284843)
I'd like to have a Tag, but would rather not spend that kind of cash.

The Tissot and the Victorinox have sapphire crystal faces, IIRC.

get a tag off of Craig's List, I just bought a cheap Neff digital watch, but my next watch will mos def be a Tag.

Simply Red 12-16-2013 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10285016)
$500 isn't really a value point in watches, IMO. If you aren't trying to be a baller (and I don't mean that as a pejorative), then you might as well spend $100- $150 and call it good. A $500 watch doesn't look any better, last any longer, nor hold its value any more than a less expensive alternative.

I tend to agree.

Simply Red 12-16-2013 06:01 PM

I like some of the Gucci Stainless, they're around 1300.00

Simply Red 12-16-2013 06:02 PM

Tissot are pretty fair. Used to be owned by Swatch IIRC.

HonestChieffan 12-16-2013 06:04 PM

Tags say "i cant afford a Rolex" better than any brand.

Simply Red 12-16-2013 06:04 PM

I owned a Tissot automatic, it was a pretty nice watch, but it disappeared during the divorce.

Simply Red 12-16-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 10285036)
Tags say "i cant afford a Rolex" better than any brand.

Naw. Not at all. Movado & ESQ hold that title.

chefs fan in omaha 12-16-2013 06:08 PM

I own a submariner, but really want a Daytona

Saul Good 12-16-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10285042)
Naw. Not at all. Movado & ESQ hold that title.

I can't stand Movados...really don't get the appeal. You may as well buy a gold nugget style ring.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10284957)
OTW is the humble Dane McCloud. Dude is buying watches, playoff tickets, and dining at st. Elmos.

LMAO

Yeah, not so much.

We do just fine for ourselves, but work hard to set aside money for things like this 3-4 times a year.

Phobia 12-16-2013 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 10285036)
Tags say "i cant afford a Rolex" better than any brand.

Really? I own both. I like both. I like my Tag very well.

King_Chief_Fan 12-16-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10284788)
Looking for a new watch, and seem to have it narrowed down to three. Would love to spend $1000+ on a watch, but decided to keep it under $500.

I keep coming back to these - wondering if anyone has any experience with these specific watchmakers, or have any suggestions in my range.

Thanks!

Tissot PRS516:

http://img.rakuten.com/PIC/2445492/0/1/300/2445492.jpg

Victorinox ChronoClassic XLS:

http://www.gemnation.com/images/watches/Swis/241443.jpg

Citizen Eco-Drive World Chronograph:

http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net...9493380617.jpg

I have an eco drive......8 years and running strong. Had to replace the crystal but that was my fault. Great watch

Saul Good 12-16-2013 06:25 PM

What are you looking for in a watch?

I probably shouldn't be giving my opinion in this thread (not that this has ever stopped me in the past), because I'm pretty tired of metal banded watches. I've owned too many of them. My favorite watch is made almost entirely out of wood. It was a little over $100, but every time I wear it, people ask me about it. It would be perfect for when I was single, because it's a great way to meet people. I'm not sure that it would be very practical as an every day watch, but it's a sweet accessory if I want to look put together while dressing down.

Saul Good 12-16-2013 06:27 PM

Oh shit. I just looked them up, and they make digitals now. Looks like I'm getting a new watch.

http://www.google.com/search?q=we+wo...&client=safari

O.city 12-16-2013 06:30 PM

Got my dad a Tissot for Christmas last year. Very good watches.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10285130)
What are you looking for in a watch?

I probably shouldn't be giving my opinion in this thread (not that this has ever stopped me in the past), because I'm pretty tired of metal banded watches. I've owned too many of them. My favorite watch is made almost entirely out of wood. It was a little over $100, but every time I wear it, people ask me about it. It would be perfect for when I was single, because it's a great way to meet people. I'm not sure that it would be very practical as an every day watch, but it's a sweet accessory if I want to look put together while dressing down.

Looking for an everyday watch. Stainless, won't take much abuse - other than being worn everyday. I'm a teacher, so it's not going to get banged up.

Something in the 40mm range - I like a bigger watch with some heft to it.

But most importantly, I want a quality timepiece that I can wear casual or dressed up that will last me 7-10 years or more when properly cared for.

Based solely on the multiple comments about Tag Heuer, this looks nice:

http://www.amazon.com/TAG-Heuer-CAH1...ords=tag+heuer

Saul Good 12-16-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10285149)
Looking for an everyday watch. Stainless, won't take much abuse - other than being worn everyday. I'm a teacher, so it's not going to get banged up.

Something in the 40mm range - I like a bigger watch with some heft to it.

But most importantly, I want a quality timepiece that I can wear casual or dressed up that will last me 7-10 years or more when properly cared for.

Based solely on the multiple comments about Tag Heuer, this looks nice:

http://www.amazon.com/TAG-Heuer-CAH1...ords=tag+heuer

Do you have thick wrists? I have little bitch wrists, so I can't pull off the oversized faces...which sucks because I did like those for a while.

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10285163)
Do you have thick wrists? I have little bitch wrists, so I can't pull off the oversized faces...which sucks because I did like those for a while.

LMAO

Not sure what you consider a thick wrist, but a 40mm looks good for me.

I tried on a 51mm Nixon over the weekend, and it looked huge, but I could have pulled it off.

GordonGekko 12-16-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10284982)
People still wear watches?

Seems like a huge waste of money since you can just look at your phone.

I'm on the opposite. At a certain age it looks weird if you don't wear a watch.

-King- 12-16-2013 06:53 PM

$500 for a watch. Wow.

Other than maybe looks, what can a $500 watch do that a $50-$150 watch can't?

-King- 12-16-2013 06:55 PM

FWIW, out of the 3 watches in the OP, the 2nd one is by far the best. The first looks kind of cheap and the Citizens looks busy to the point of obnoxious.

Phobia 12-16-2013 06:57 PM

This is the one I have: http://www.amazon.com/TAG-Heuer-WJ20...tag+heuer+link

But don't buy them on Amazon. I am almost certain we didn't spend more than $1k for mine.

Phobia 12-16-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10285207)
$500 for a watch. Wow.

Other than maybe looks, what can a $500 watch do that a $50-$150 watch can't?

Last forever. Appreciate in value. Be passed down to your children.

Saul Good 12-16-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10285214)
FWIW, out of the 3 watches in the OP, the 2nd one is by far the best. The first looks kind of cheap and the Citizens looks busy to the point of obnoxious.

Agree

O.city 12-16-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10285207)
$500 for a watch. Wow.

Other than maybe looks, what can a $500 watch do that a $50-$150 watch can't?

Get you laid?

BroncoDork 12-16-2013 07:00 PM

I like the Citizen Eco I have. 9 years and no battery replacement, runs on solar power. Hell, most of the time it sits on the kitchen counter and gets charged up by the flourescent lights in the kitchen.

$130 at Sears. It's not the top of the line like the OP is looking at, but I like that it doesn't need a new battery every year. And congrats on making a playoff spot . . . .

BossChief 12-16-2013 07:16 PM

I've had a citizen Eco drive perpetual calendar titanium for almost 10 years and haven't had any issues that I didn't cause myself. The crystal is scratched up pretty good, but it's been reliable.

saphojunkie 12-16-2013 07:17 PM

D. None of the above


cdcox 12-16-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10285181)
I'm on the opposite. At a certain age it looks weird if you don't wear a watch.

Skip the watch and look 20 years younger.

TheUte 12-16-2013 07:44 PM

Get a Luminox had one for 20 years never a problem. Not as big as my Seamaster but I love it. Right in that 300 range.

http://www.luminox.com/watches/

Demonpenz 12-16-2013 09:53 PM

btw if you go into the oak park mall and see the hottest baddest bitch on earth working at the jewelry store, she lights the Citizen Nighthawk.

Deberg_1990 12-16-2013 10:17 PM

Watches are like so.....1997.

BigBeauford 12-16-2013 10:23 PM

[IMG]www.kaycameronjewelers.com/Images/Interior/eli%20manning%20citizen%20eco%20drive%20watch.jpg[/IMG]

Nuff said bro

RainMaker 12-16-2013 10:33 PM

Orient - a good everyday watch...
 
I've quite a few watches in my collection: a Seiko, Bulova from my gramps, a Victorinox, a super-slim Citizen, some old Timex, and a two year old Seiko - sarb033. I often, okay almost everyday, find myself alternating between a pair of watches from Orient watches at orientwatchusa. I bought a blue and an orange faced automatic Mako watch and I love them.

Each of them cost around $75 so I didn't have to worry about getting the crystals scratched, the SS bands scuffed, etc. I wasn't expecting much for that price. Now they've sent me a 40% off code - holiday40 - but I still have these around and I don't even wear my Seiko. Don't get me wrong, I love my Seiko but I can't afford another one at the drop of a hat. The quality of these is really very good.

If I leave them on my desk or in my drawer I don't have to worry about my kids or students taking/breaking them. Hell, I get looks of bewilderment when I tell them that my watches wind themselves.

I'm not telling you to buy them. Just look...

RainMaker

p.s. A good Seiko site - seiyajapan.com - I just love the looks of the SEIKO Automatic Presage SARX017 - at $508. It's got a classic design that not everybody appreciates

Simply Red 12-16-2013 11:49 PM

$299
 
http://i.imgur.com/gWLbMjD.jpg



http://www.ashford.com/us/watches/co...r/14601198.pid

Simply Red 12-16-2013 11:53 PM

$395
 
http://i.imgur.com/E5p661x.jpg

http://www1.bloomingdales.com/shop/p...44mm?ID=663373

Rausch 12-16-2013 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10286005)
Watches are like so.....1997.

Every ****ing machine you interact with has a clock on it.

Every one.

Car, TV, Computer, etc.

Just having a watch is ridiculously redundant...

RealSNR 12-17-2013 12:06 AM

You can get a fake Rolex for under $300. And some of them actually tell time.

Pants 12-17-2013 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10285149)
Looking for an everyday watch. Stainless, won't take much abuse - other than being worn everyday. I'm a teacher, so it's not going to get banged up.

Something in the 40mm range - I like a bigger watch with some heft to it.

But most importantly, I want a quality timepiece that I can wear casual or dressed up that will last me 7-10 years or more when properly cared for.

Based solely on the multiple comments about Tag Heuer, this looks nice:

http://www.amazon.com/TAG-Heuer-CAH1...ords=tag+heuer

Amazon has been having Momo Design watches for $900 on and off. They look nice.

BigMeatballDave 12-17-2013 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 10285230)
Last forever. Appreciate in value. Be passed down to your children.

LMAO I'd never pass a watch down to my son.

This isn't the 50s.

Watches are such a horrible waste of money today.

BigMeatballDave 12-17-2013 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10285232)
Get you laid?

LMAO

Pants 12-17-2013 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10286555)
LMAO I'd never pass a watch down to my son.

This isn't the 50s.

Watches are such a horrible waste of money today.

You are boring.

BigMeatballDave 12-17-2013 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10285181)
I'm on the opposite. At a certain age it looks weird if you don't wear a watch.

Huh? I rarely notice people wearing a watch.

I had a couple Ironman Triathlon when I was in Jr High and HS.

Just completely useless nowadays.

BigMeatballDave 12-17-2013 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 10286557)
You are boring.

LMAO

So are watches.

Phobia 12-17-2013 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10286555)
LMAO I'd never pass a watch down to my son.

This isn't the 50s.

Watches are such a horrible waste of money today.

That's because you don't have an heirloom. They appreciate in value.

Pants 12-17-2013 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10286561)
LMAO

So are watches.

I don't understand how, as a man, you can't appreciate the extraordinary craftsmanship and design that goes into a nice watch.

I get the same feeling about nice watches as I do about nice cars and high quality firearms. There is just something viscerally desirable about those things.

BigMeatballDave 12-17-2013 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 10286566)
I don't understand how, as a man, you can't appreciate the extraordinary craftsmanship and design that goes into a nice watch.

I get the same feeling about nice watches as I do about nice cars and high quality firearms. There is just something viscerally desirable about those things.

Because, other than telling time and date, it serves no purpose. I have a smartphone that does that for me. I seriously do not know a single person who wears a watch, or has worn a watch in the last 5 years.

Loved them when I was growing up, though. Had 3 Timex from 1977-1990.

GOB 12-17-2013 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 10286563)
That's because you don't have an heirloom. They appreciate in value.

Sadly, most don't.

The only brands that appreciate are pretty much Patek Phillipe and Rolex. And Rolex is going to fall off the map because they sourcing parts out of Asia.

If you're going to spend money the money on a nice watch, I'd urge you to spend more, like $3k plus. If not, just get a cheap watch or use your smartphone. The sub 3k range is the least worth it.

BigMeatballDave 12-17-2013 01:38 AM

3 grand for a watch?

Holy shit.

Can't even imagine. But, then I'm just a lowly truck driver.

Sorter 12-17-2013 01:51 AM

IIRC, Movado makes some nice watches in your price range.

GOB 12-17-2013 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10286572)
3 grand for a watch?

Holy shit.

Can't even imagine. But, then I'm just a lowly truck driver.

My in-laws are an importer for luxury watches and purses. As an outside observer, I thought it was ridiculous at first--actually, I still think it's ridiculous--but one thing I found interesting is the nature of depreciation.

Basically, if you get the starter luxury watch or a commonplace brand (like Citizen or Gucci or Coach), the price is going to sink like a rock. If you spend more, however, and get the right model and brand (like Patek Phillipe or an Hermes bag), the price really will go up and sometimes at a surprising rate. My wife got this bag (as a gift) three years ago that she can sell for double the price now.

You want to buy the bag or watch that bored, rich people are going to have a hard time finding on ebay basically.

Sorter 12-17-2013 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOB (Post 10286588)
My in-laws are an importer for luxury watches and purses. As an outside observer, I thought it was ridiculous at first--actually, I still think it's ridiculous--but one thing I found interesting is the nature of depreciation.

Basically, if you get the starter luxury watch or a commonplace brand (like Citizen or Gucci or Coach), the price is going to sink like a rock. If you spend more, however, and get the right model and brand (like Patek Phillipe or an Hermes bag), the price really will go up and sometimes at a surprising rate. My wife got this bag (as a gift) three years ago that she can sell for double the price now.

You want to buy the bag or watch that bored, rich people are going to have a hard time finding on ebay basically.


Interesting.

Randallflagg 12-17-2013 01:59 AM

I've been a collector of watches for some 30 years now. Goofy, I guess, but they always appealed to me…

I have been wearing a Citizen "Blue Angels" Eco-drive since they came out with them about 14 years ago. Still keeps time as well today as it did back then. I had a running thing with Seiko back in the 70s when they used a perpetual timing mechanism (like Rolex) LONG before they switched over to Quartz. Good watches as well.

I've owned Rolex and Omega - and in my opinion, highly overpriced.

I recommend the Citizen. They, too, can get a tad pricey - but nowhere near in the ROlex and Omega price range.


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