Peter King Pimping Charles for MVP
 

Not often King pimps the Chiefs (save any Pioli slobbering).

Hope he didn't just curse Charles

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Now Entering the MVP Race: Jamaal Charles

The MVP debate lost one borderline candidate Monday night. Calvin Johnson was going to have a tough road, as any wide receiver always would, but his three drops—two of them at crucial times—in a loss that could keep the Lions from making the playoffs will knock out whatever chance he had in what has been a great season.

But the debate did gain one entrant in Week 15: Kansas City running back Jamaal Charles. His five-touchdown performance in the Chiefs’ win at Oakland Sunday (and seven in the last two weeks, for a league-high 18 on the season) is notable not just because of the sheer luminosity of it. It’s the totality of the offensive renaissance in Kansas City.

For the first half of the season, the Chiefs survived on defense and whatever Charles’ legs could provide on offense. In the last four games K.C. has averaged 42 points a game—42 points total would have been a month’s work back in October—and this has been Charles’ eye-popping output:

Attempts Yards Average TDs
Rushing 60 378 6.3 5
Receiving 16 272 17.0 5
Total 76 650 8.6 10


When a guy is averaging 8.6 yards per touch, maybe he should be getting the ball more than 19 times a game. But whatever Andy Reid is calling in the last month is working, and much of it is centered around Charles. If the Chiefs win out and finish 13-3, and the pacesetters—Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton—struggle a bit in the last two weeks, Charles could become a dark-horse candidate for either the MVP or Offensive Player of the Year.

“I’m not in the race,” Charles told me after the 56-31 rout of the Raiders. “That’s not for me to decide if I deserve something like that. I deserve to work hard and get ready to play the best football I can. After that, it’s not up to me.”

But …

“I do think about it,” he said. “But then I think about what I can control.”
What Reid has brought to the Chiefs, other than a calming influence after a raging storm in the last couple of seasons in Kansas City, is some new ideas to the offense. One is how to use Charles. Example: Saturday night in the hotel in California, Reid shared the first 15 plays with the offensive team, as he does every week. And the first play was a screen to Charles, a play the Chiefs thought would be great to run early to take advantage of the Raiders’ overaggressiveness and their wont to pursue plays too fast on screens.

“I looked on the paper and saw that,” said Charles, “and I focused on it all night. I could see it happening, and I knew it would be a good play to run for us. It turned out to be wide open.”

The 49-yard screen on the first play from scrimmage was one of four touchdown catches for Charles on the day, and for the year he’s been the best receiver out of the backfield in the league, by far: 65 catches, 655 yards, 11 touchdowns.

Now it’s going to be up to the 50 voters who make the picks for post-season awards for the Associated Press. (I am one of them.) Charles’s play down the stretch, and how he’s enlivened an offense that needed it, could thrust him into a race no one saw him in a month ago.

Charles and Manning are two that deserve. But **** Manning.

Nice thought and all; but Fivehead has this thing wrapped up already.

Not even worth getting excited for.

I'm more excited that a national media source is talking about the Chiefs, and moreover it ISN'T how they are a major dumpster fire.

Just wait until King realizes that Charles was drafted by Herm and Carl and not Scott Pioli...

But Pioli gave him a new deal. /Peter King

I'd actually say Cam and Peyton deserve it above Charles.

But Charles definitely deserves offensive POTY.

Ah...yes, but Pioli recognized his full potential and nurtured it.
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Truth... but its nice that he's atleast being recognized on the east coast.

JC sounds like a sage, love that kid... "that's not for me to decide if I deserve something like that. I deserve to work hard and get ready to play the best football I can..."

Sounds like a man possessed to me, if he decides to go off this season has no limits.

Escalades, bitches.

Cams been the same this year he's always been, they just have a better defense so their winning games.

He's gotten a bit better throwing the ball from the pocket, but the guys been a stud from day 1

You're right out of your mind if you think Cam deserves it over Jamaal Charles.

You know, if JC doesn't win it, it's pretty much saying MVP is only for QB's. I don't know what else he can do at his position... Pass the ball occassionally? lol.

lol

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/12/jama...-running-back/

Cam over JC? Ya go make another ****ing late night draft thread you stupid ****

Wow, Garcia... lol.

At least he's honest, I guess.

Cam has fewer yards than Alex Smith this year.

But...but...but...HOW??? I thought ALex Smith "Always has, does, and always will SUCK???" :hmmm:

Then Tom Brady smacks Peter with his peter and Peter votes like he always does...

DT

That guy is 100% correct.

With that said, I fully expect JC to win OPOY.

Wait...Cam is an MVP candidate? Lol.

what are Charles's exact stats for the year now so far with 2 games left?......how many yards from scrimmage? 18 TD's total?

Peter King?

Am I wrong, or is this the clown that crowned our asses as the worst 8-0/9-0 team?

Edit: My bad, that was Pete Pricko.

I believe that was Pete Prisco of CBS.

Peter King is the fat guy on NBC who talks funny because he has Scott Pioli's balls in his mouth.

Yes, you are correct. I had to recollect my memory as to who it was.

I was wrong. For some reason, I kept thinking King was the guy who kept bashing the Chiefs for the record, until I finally got it, and I was about to correct myself, and you confirmed it.

ok so given those numbers Charles should end up at around 2100 yards from scrimmage and 21 TDs....those ARE MVP worthy numbers only problem is he is up against a guy who is on pace to end up with close to 5500 passing yards and 54 TDs. Cam Newton isnt in the conversation in my eyes.........its Manning or Charles. Manning is MVP unless something like this past week happens again this week (where JC gets 5 TDs and 200+ yards from scrimmage) then it gets interesting. But Mannings stats have never been done before

Peterson won MVP last year with 2314 yards from scrimmage and 13 TDs....so saying JC shouldnt be in the discussion is absurd. I dont see anybody else besides him and Manning being in the conversation however

Saw this on Grantland yesterday. It's by Bill Barnwell article who usually writes about real football but decided to try and describe JC's gretness using fantasy football stats. Pretty great:

Charles in Charge

It's good that you probably weren't watching the Chiefs-Raiders game Sunday afternoon, because the things that Jamaal Charles was doing to the Raiders shouldn't have been broadcast on television before the safe harbor. With the Oakland defense either unaware that running backs can catch passes or uninterested in learning from its mistakes, Charles caught a bevy of screens and swing passes amid a truly monstrous day. While Charles only ran for 20 yards on eight carries — by far his lowest rushing output of the season — his eight catches yielded a whopping 195 yards, tying him with DeSean Jackson as the day's leading receiver. In all, Charles finished with five touchdowns, four of which came through the air. In a traditional scoring system, Charles produced 51.5 fantasy points.

Of course, fantasy points are even more meaningful these days. Charles's huge day came in Week 15, which is right smack-dab in the middle of just about every fantasy football league's playoffs. I suppose there are some people who had Charles in their lineup this week and lost, but I'm guessing that the 50-spot Charles posted won a lot of people a lot of playoff games and a whole lot of money. Given the high stakes, was it the most clutch fantasy football performance … ever?

Football crack — also known as pro-football-reference.com — has game logs for individual players dating back through 1960. For the purposes of this analysis, let's just assume nobody was playing fantasy football before 1960.4 The website also tracks the fantasy football points generated by each offensive player from those game logs. The figures don't include fumbles, but Charles didn't fumble on Sunday, so that won't matter in comparing him with the greats from the past. I want to compare Charles's performance to other great playoff performances from the past, but just about every league I've ever seen has different playoff rules, so let's keep things simple and just consider performances that occurred between Week 14 and Week 16.

As it turns out, Charles's game against the Raiders on Sunday was the third-best performance during the fantasy football playoffs over the past 53 years. He came in one-tenth of a point behind a Corey Dillon game from 1997. The record belongs to Clinton Portis, who generated 55.4 fantasy points during a 2003 Broncos game that saw him score five touchdowns while producing 254 yards from scrimmage. Three of the top 10 performances in fantasy playoff history came from running backs under Mike Shanahan in Denver, which should be part of Shanahan's Hall of Fame argument someday. Charles is the first guy over 40 points in a fantasy playoff game since Jerome Harrison's 286-yard game against the Chiefs in 2009.

Charles was pretty good in Week 14, too: He produced 27.8 fantasy points with two touchdowns and 158 yards from scrimmage in the blowout win over Washington. The Colts and their 25th-ranked run defense loom in Week 16. With 79.3 fantasy points under his belt through the first two weeks of the playoffs, could Charles be on pace to be the most valuable player in fantasy football playoff history?

Absolutely. The best three-week performance from Week 14 to Week 16 since 1960 belongs to Charles's predecessor as the Kansas City starting halfback. Larry Johnson produced 95.4 fantasy points over that three-week stretch during the 2005 season, accruing a total of 441 rushing yards, 93 receiving yards, and seven touchdowns. For fun, he threw in a 222-yard, three-touchdown performance in Week 17 for leagues that abhor the light.

Charles already has the third-best performance in fantasy playoff history. To top Johnson's 2005 and set a new playoff record, Charles will need to generate 16.2 fantasy points. A touchdown and more than 100 yards from scrimmage would get the job done.

Back here in real football, though, the Chiefs need to seriously start thinking about how they want to manage Charles's workload heading into the playoffs. As amazing as his performance on Sunday was, the Chiefs were right to keep him out toward the end of the game to get backup Knile Davis touches while attempting to keep Charles fresh for the playoffs. He'll obviously suit up next week, but if the Chiefs lose to the Colts and get locked into the fifth seed in the AFC with a Broncos win, Andy Reid should absolutely bench his star halfback in Week 17 in what would be a meaningless game (for the Chiefs, at least) at San Diego. Charles is more essential to his offense, arguably, than any other non-quarterback in football; it's impossible to imagine the Chiefs going far in the playoffs without him around, so it will be critical for Kansas City to get him as fresh as possible. The Chiefs would like to see the Charles who won so many fantasy football playoff games yesterday help them win an NFL playoff game or two this season.

Stopped right there.

I love clever shit. Not clever.

Also, Charles will never win MVP with King driving the boat. He's probably OPOTY. I don't even care about individual awards.

The only award I'd like for the Chiefs franchise/players/fans, including me, is to witness is two of them.

1. Lamar Hunt Trophy.
2. Lombardi Trophy.

That's it.

More pressure on QB = Superbowl contender ;) if they can 42 points a game with that defense we saw for the first 9 games we're contenders for real

So much so that his first coach deactivated him for Dantrell Savage. (Don't worry, my meter's on).

We're on the same page. Said same thing many, many times. I've seen my share of Walter Payton Awards, Pro Bowls, All Pros, Coach of the Year, Player of the week, Player of the month, Hall of Fame - Pfffft. Nobody cares except the people who roll into those guy's living rooms and see those stupid trophies sitting on the mantle. I want the pinnacle and I want it soon. With regard to this team, I don't care about coaches, players, or front office people. I've been wrapped up in all that crap in the past. I want to win. I want to win now. I want to win it all. Anything less is not okay with me. Sorry about the extra expectations. Competitors should play to win.

Jesus, that's a name that I thought it would never be brought up again.

I agree, and I feel the same way. But also, with the pain and suffering of no playoff victory since 1993, and getting beat in 95, 97, etc, etc, it really takes a toll on a fan, that they even wonder if the Chiefs will ever win a playoff game again. It's like a battered fan syndrome, that once the Chiefs make it into the playoffs, you know how the ending result will be. One and Done. We're seeing a lot of people saying (and truthfully, I am one of them as well, I will admit) the phrase "I'd love to see a playoff win."

Truth to be told, I do want them to win the Hunt and Lombardi trophy, make no mistake, but first thing first, they absolutely GOT to get that one and done monkey (or gorilla in this case) off their backs before they can proceed to the next step.

Burn /Emma Stone

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Heh. I hate that this dufus ruined a very good phrase.

You know, the way this sucker is playing out, if they get the Colts in the playoffs, they got a legit chance.

The Colts suck. They are the division leaders in the worst division in football. (Yeah, even worse than the NFC East.) They got two extremely lucky wins over the 49ers and Denver. If not for massive turnover benefits in those two games and a complete internal destruction of the Texans, they'd be fighting it out with Tennessee for that top spot in that division versus having it relatively in hand.

I think we beat the living crap out of the Colts Sunday and if it plays out, we likely get them again in the playoffs. I'll take that.

If the dufus is referring to Herm Edwards, the quote he stated on his presser should had been borderline fireable.

"People aren't used to this [i.e., losing] in Kansas City. Get over it, it happens, it's called life."

Since then, that's when KC went down the tailspin.

Oh I know what you mean, but when it comes to playoff time, every game from week 1 to week 16 is pretty much thrown out of the window.

Case in point. Remember the 2006 season? Larry Johnson was 2nd in the NFL in rushing (and the Chiefs were 9th in the NFL on rushing) and the Colts had the worst rush defense at the time, ranked 32nd in the NFL. It was a perfect matchup for KC at the time, right?

Well, didn't turn out that way, as somehow the Colts defense got on fire, and won the whole damn thing.

Charles is a fine player, but the only reason King is pimping him is because he is a New England homer who doesn't want to see the award go to Manning.

Ever since Pioli arrived, King has started to hype up Chief players and after Pioli got shitcanned.

Nice

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Paidaton has it wrapped.

If Manning breaks Brady's TD record, I don't see any way he doesn't win both MVP and offensive player of the year.

Even if doesn't, he probaby wins both.

That's awesome