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FRCDFED 12-30-2013 05:22 PM

Browns want J. McD and Mallet from Pats?
 
The article below implies that both McDaniels and Mallet could be bound for Cleveland. I wonder what BB would get in return for Mallet?

Browns pushing to set up interview with Josh McDaniels

Posted by Darin Gantt on December 30, 2013, 3:52 PM EST

As soon as the Browns had an opening, people began linking Josh McDaniels with the job, based on his relationship with Browns General Manager Mike Lombardi.

Now there’s some fire to go with that smoke, as Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network reports the Browns are “pushing” to interview the Patriots offensive coordinator for their vacant head coaching job.

Nothing has been set up at this point, just as there are no rumors yet about a Ryan Mallett package deal (though that’s probably inevitable, as the Tim Tebow reports will be).

The Browns have also asked permission to interview Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase and Seahawks defensive coordinator Dan Quinn, after firing a young coordinator one year into the job (Rob Chudzinski).

Snapplez 12-30-2013 05:23 PM

ROFLROFLROFL

TimBone 12-30-2013 05:24 PM

Wtf are they thinking?

ThaVirus 12-30-2013 05:25 PM

Are you ****ing serious?

This ****ing Patriot way bullshit is pissing me the **** off. Who the **** do these people think they are?

****!!!

FRCDFED 12-30-2013 05:26 PM

Correction to my previous assertion that they WANT Mallet. The article only says that the RUMORS are inevitable. I read the article too fast.

Still a possibility though I suppose. Curious if BB would let Mallet go.

bevischief 12-30-2013 05:27 PM

Wow...

FloridaMan88 12-30-2013 05:27 PM

Is there any doubt that Matt Cassel will somehow be a Cleveland Brown next year?

OrtonsPiercedTaint 12-30-2013 05:28 PM

This has become just sad. Like a mentally challenged person who just shit themself again.

TribalElder 12-30-2013 05:28 PM

Kevin Costner could swing this deal on draft day

stay tuned......

FRCDFED 12-30-2013 05:29 PM

IMO the media is going to go crazy speculating on all the NFL head coaching vacancies.

KCUnited 12-30-2013 05:29 PM

Every time my kid asks me something obvious, I answer with "are the Browns going to keep being the Browns?"

Red Dawg 12-30-2013 05:30 PM

Pretty stupid if they do this. That means the Pats will hose them on draft picks and in turn they will screw the rest of the NFL. If they don't win the big one this year they are sure to go all out and load up for Brady's last try next year. Look for the Pats to go after every big name this off season. Allen, Foster and all the rest.

I hate Brady and all the Pats fans everywhere. Spoiled bitches.

MMXcalibur 12-30-2013 05:30 PM

Jesus, I really feel for Cleveland.
Those poor bastards...

Easy 6 12-30-2013 05:30 PM

Welp, guess that answers the fans question put forth by the reporter... Stooges these guys really ARE running the show.

I feel ya Cleveland, so help me i do... its time to get your SOB on, get your money together for the banners, fire up the Cessna's and LET IT RIP.

Simplicity 12-30-2013 05:32 PM

I'd sign Kyrie Irving to start at QB next year.

After all... They are being radical, right?

Mr. Laz 12-30-2013 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 10322523)
Correction to my previous assertion that they WANT Mallet. The article only says that the RUMORS are inevitable. I read the article too fast.

Still a possibility though I suppose. Curious if BB would let Mallet go.

hell yes he would


pats make a killing of trading QB's

ChiefsCountry 12-30-2013 05:33 PM

Mallet, Hoyer and Cassel - Browns quarterbacks
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Easy 6 12-30-2013 05:35 PM

If they wanted McD as an OC that's one thing, but...

Mother****erJones 12-30-2013 05:39 PM

Thank god the stench from the Belichick-Brady Way is gone

The Franchise 12-30-2013 05:40 PM

This just solidifies my thought that the Patriots are an Alien organism who's only mission is to infest other organizations with their "diseased coordinators". They infect a new host....wait for it to die and then move onto another host.

frozenchief 12-30-2013 05:43 PM

"God hates Cleveland."

Joe Posnanski

Having been there, I have to concur.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 12-30-2013 05:47 PM

Butt fumble in Cleveland sounds like a fit

Pablo 12-30-2013 05:56 PM

Browns pretty much pulling their own version of "your choice to be a fan".

Eleazar 12-30-2013 05:56 PM

"Rumors are inevitable" = this is totally baseless

mcaj22 12-30-2013 06:00 PM

All these Pats frauds success is directly tied to Tom Brady, it's amazing how they keep getting jobs, interviews, looks/consideration.

Mile High Mania 12-30-2013 06:04 PM

I really hope Mallet gets a chance to start next season, somewhere.

Mother****erJones 12-30-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10322599)
I really hope Mallet gets a chance to start next season, somewhere.

I hope it's in Denver :evil:

Lex Luthor 12-30-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10322520)
Are you ****ing serious?

This ****ing Patriot way bullshit is pissing me the **** off. Who the **** do these people think they are?

****!!!

You must be a Cleveland Browns fan. Otherwise this tirade makes no sense.

Dayze 12-30-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 10322534)
Every time my kid asks me something obvious, I answer with "are the Browns going to keep being the Browns?"

LMAO

Buck 12-30-2013 07:10 PM

Josh McD had shit for QBs as a HC. Why would he want Mallett?

Just Passin' By 12-30-2013 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 10322708)
Josh McD had shit for QBs as a HC. Why would he want Mallett?

That's probably more about Lombardi than McDaniels.

Quote:

"I think Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett are starters," Lombardi said in December 2011. "I've said this many times: If I would have taken the GM job of the 49ers, I would have gone after Brian Hoyer, because I think he has all the traits and characteristics. If I were the Cleveland Browns, I'd rather have Brian Hoyer behind center than Colt McCoy. I think he's got all the traits you need, in terms of leadership, toughness, the arm strength, the ability to move the team."
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...o-browns-plans

Gravedigger 12-30-2013 07:16 PM

Jimmy Haslem is god aweful. I pity Browns fans, they know true pain.

tk13 12-30-2013 07:20 PM

Pats need to wait and see if Pioli can get a GM job somewhere. Then Belichick can start a bidding war and get six 1st round picks for Mallett.

GoChargers 12-30-2013 07:39 PM

Cleveland should have never been given another franchise. What a waste for the league.

GoChargers 12-30-2013 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 10322536)
Pretty stupid if they do this. That means the Pats will hose them on draft picks and in turn they will screw the rest of the NFL. If they don't win the big one this year they are sure to go all out and load up for Brady's last try next year. Look for the Pats to go after every big name this off season. Allen, Foster and all the rest.

I hate Brady and all the Pats fans everywhere. Spoiled bitches.

Considering Belicheat's draft record, he'd blow all the picks on scrub Rutgers players.

jspchief 12-30-2013 07:40 PM

Who wouldn't want to become the next HC in the factory of sadness? They gave their last coach a whole 11 months to get the job done. How many coaches in the last decade?

It would have to be someone tainted or desperate to want that job.

KC_Lee 12-30-2013 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10322745)
Cleveland should have never been given another franchise. What a waste for the league.

I was thinking the same thing. You have to wonder if the NFL regrets putting a team back into Clevland.

tk13 12-30-2013 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 10322752)
I was thinking the same thing. You have to wonder if the NFL regrets putting a team back into Clevland.

Well they go back a long way in NFL history, but their run over the last 25 years has been pretty amazing.

Truly historic playoff losses under Marty... the plays in NFL history known as THE fumble and THE drive happened to Cleveland. That alone is enough. Then you add that they followed that with the Belichick era, who didn't do much in Cleveland then ended up becoming the most successful coach of his era and winning 3 Super Bowls. Then the team moved, and since then have become one of the model franchises, making the playoffs almost every year and winning two Super Bowls. Meanwhile the Browns most successful era was the Butch Davis era. It's amazing more Browns fans just don't go jump off a bridge.

whoman69 12-30-2013 08:16 PM

Maybe they'll give Brady Quinn another shot.

Eleazar 12-30-2013 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 10322708)
Josh McD had shit for QBs as a HC. Why would he want Mallett?

He was in love with Cassel. And Tebow.

GoChargers 12-30-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Michael Silver ‏@MikeSilver 33m
I am hearing that, like Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase, Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles may turn down Browns interview
Seriously, the Browns are a leaguewide joke at this point. Who is even going to take this job?

Bewbies 12-30-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10322891)
Seriously, the Browns are a leaguewide joke at this point. Who is even going to take this job?

Don't you think this type of situation is why we ended up with Romeo? LMAO

tk13 12-30-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 10322898)
Don't you think this type of situation is why we ended up with Romeo? LMAO

Or why Manning wouldn't give us the time of day. Or why Kyle Orton was almost openly sending the message through ESPN that he might not report if Kansas City claimed him off waivers. Or that Orton left town to go hold a clipboard the first chance he got.

GoChargers 12-30-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 10322898)
Don't you think this type of situation is why we ended up with Romeo? LMAO

Pioli did indeed **** the Chiefs over, but this is on a whole other level. The Browns 2.0 have made the playoffs a whopping one time since their inception, their owner is embroiled in a federal probe, the GM is an incompetent buffoon, and they just fired the coach after one year. Complete no-names like Adam Gase are turning down their interview requests. McDumbass might be the only one desperate enough to take the job. :eek:

Deberg_1990 12-30-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10322745)
Cleveland should have never been given another franchise. What a waste for the league.

Its not the fans fault Modell took a dump on them. they deserve better.

Storied franchise prior to 1999
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Direckshun 12-30-2013 08:55 PM

Cassel competes for the starters job in Cleveland next year.

Mav 12-30-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 10322523)
Correction to my previous assertion that they WANT Mallet. The article only says that the RUMORS are inevitable. I read the article too fast.

Still a possibility though I suppose. Curious if BB would let Mallet go.

I can help with this. Michael Lombardi, the minute he walked threw the gates to hell, aka Berea was on the phone with the Pats trying to get Mallett. They wouldn't trade him for less than a second, and the browns didn't have one.

Now, they have Hoyer who McDaniels also knows and likes. So I doubt very much they bring in Mallett.

They are interviewing Quinn tomorrow.

Also are going to interview Todd Bowles from the Cards.

But, expect McDaniels to be the head coach next week.

Mav 12-30-2013 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10322745)
Cleveland should have never been given another franchise. What a waste for the league.

Whoa Whoa Whoa.

The browns sold out every game.

Lets not make this about CLEVELAND.

lets make this about Tagliabue, and who he sold the team to.

Yes, Al Lerner, who was former best friends with Art Modell.

And before he passed, instead of selling it to someone who loved football, he gave it to his son, who only cared about Futbol.

Then, the league allowed him to sell the team, to a DAMN STEELERS PART OWNER.

This isn't on Cleveland. The City of Cleveland more than deserves a team.

Much more so no offense than SD.

You will never see an empty stadium in Cleveland.

Even last year, in shit weather, in a shitty game between Cleveland and SD. We were SOLD OUT.

Mav 12-30-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10322920)
Pioli did indeed **** the Chiefs over, but this is on a whole other level. The Browns 2.0 have made the playoffs a whopping one time since their inception, their owner is embroiled in a federal probe, the GM is an incompetent buffoon, and they just fired the coach after one year. Complete no-names like Adam Gase are turning down their interview requests. McDumbass might be the only one desperate enough to take the job. :eek:

I cant argue with this.

None of it.

But, lets keep it on the ownership. The City, is a true football town.

RealSNR 12-30-2013 10:21 PM

I've always had a soft spot for the Browns. Recently they punked the Colts on that Richardson trade.

They still got hosed by wasting a top draft pick for him, but they also ****ed the Colts pretty good.

Just Passin' By 12-30-2013 11:29 PM

I can't vouch for the reliability, but here's someone claiming to have news:


Quote:

Mult league sources tell me Josh McDaniels has started calling coaches about staff in CLE. Said jobs his IF he wants but hasn't accepted yet
https://twitter.com/WillBurge/status/417862687528194048

Quote:

Browns reached out to McDaniels thru back channels & basically offered on the spot. Source in #Browns said "official" interviews start Tues
https://twitter.com/WillBurge/status/417870801266679809

Quote:

Browns reached out to McDaniels thru back channels & basically offered on the spot. Source in #Browns said "official" interviews start Tues
https://twitter.com/WillBurge/status/417870801266679809

BryanBusby 12-30-2013 11:35 PM

****, too bad we no longer have Cassel to help recover draft picks from the bad Smif trade.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 12-30-2013 11:43 PM

I don't understand what Tounces can do. This team has alread been driven over a cliff. Steelers, Ravens, Bengals...

TribalElder 12-30-2013 11:46 PM

"Timmy, call espn back and tell them they have to wait" - josh McDaniel

mcaj22 12-30-2013 11:48 PM

McDaniels would have TWO first round picks to play with, I can't imagine what he takes with those lol

GoChargers 12-30-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10323135)
You will never see an empty stadium in Cleveland.

Even last year, in shit weather, in a shitty game between Cleveland and SD. We were SOLD OUT.

Sadly, that's one of your biggest problems. Where's the incentive for the Browns to try to win if fans will gladly spend money on tickets and pack the stadium for a losing product?

The Chargers' blackouts really picked up near the end of the Norv/AJ era when fans finally got fed up with the mediocrity and the franchise's hostile attitude towards the fanbase. Spanos finally got the message and fired those clowns because the alternative was losing even more money. Unless you're lucky enough to have an owner that loves the sport and cares about winning, the fans can only send a message by voting with their wallets and not showing up.

tk13 12-30-2013 11:49 PM

Wouldn't surprise me at all to be honest. McDaniels has to be the leader in the clubhouse... just because it's the Patriots thing to do.

Remember there were rumors everywhere that Pioli wanted to do the same thing. Who knows how accurate they were, but it makes complete sense. They probably don't even want to look at outsiders unless they have to.

mcaj22 12-31-2013 12:46 AM

this is good for us because Ray Horton isnt part of the Pats Fraud tree and he becomes available.

Easy 6 12-31-2013 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10323458)
this is good for us because Ray Horton isnt part of the Pats Fraud tree and he becomes available.

I'm starting to reeeally question Suttons ideas as well, but don't fool yourself... at the worst he has next year to fine tune everything.

If he shits the bed with a stacked deck and an offense designed to give him a break? Then gimme a pitchfork full of straw and pitch, lets fire up the Cessnas.

Sorter 12-31-2013 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10323458)
this is good for us because Ray Horton isnt part of the Pats Fraud tree and he becomes available.

http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/ima...jtu8o1_500.gif

Sorter 12-31-2013 02:42 AM

If Horton's available and the defense under-performs in our playoff game, it would be surprising if Horton isn't our DC after.

Mav 12-31-2013 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10323354)
McDaniels would have TWO first round picks to play with, I can't imagine what he takes with those lol

Mike Evans and Johnny manziel

BryanBusby 12-31-2013 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10323354)
McDaniels would have TWO first round picks to play with, I can't imagine what he takes with those lol

Trade them both to Belichick for Mallett.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10323547)
If Horton's available and the defense under-performs in our playoff game, it would be surprising if Horton isn't our DC after.

I'm going to let you in a secret:
Spoiler!

ILChief 12-31-2013 06:51 AM

I doubt sutton gets fired

Eleazar 12-31-2013 07:36 AM

I don't really see Andy Reid firing any coaches after turning a 2 win team around like he did this season.

Marcellus 12-31-2013 08:24 AM

The Browns are the anti Chiefs. They need to trade for a QB like Mallet because all those 1st round QB's have got them nothing.

Clearly there is only 1 way to build a team.

Mile High Mania 12-31-2013 08:34 AM

So, here's what they'll do...

They'll bring in Josh to coach the team. In FA, he'll trade their 2nd R1 pick (the one from IND, likely in the mid 20s) to NEP for Mallet.

They'll also try to sign FA RB Knowshon Moreno because his contract is up and he's had a stellar year. Moreno was Josh's first round draft pick in 2009 in his first year with Denver, so he likes him and needs a veteran that has appeared to mature a bit. My guess is they'll also make a play for Decker to rejoin Josh, but Denver will make a strong push to retain him.

They'll drag in a few other players via FA at WR/TE - not sure what names are out there, and maybe they trade down from their #4 overall pick in R1 to pick up additional picks.

Then, they hire someone like a Wade Phillips to take care of the defense - maybe Josh has his own guy, but a move for someone like Wade could be wise.

Just throwing that out there...

FRCDFED 12-31-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10323659)
So, here's what they'll do...

They'll bring in Josh to coach the team. In FA, he'll trade their 2nd R1 pick (the one from IND, likely in the mid 20s) to NEP for Mallet.

They'll also try to sign FA RB Knowshon Moreno because his contract is up and he's had a stellar year. Moreno was Josh's first round draft pick in 2009 in his first year with Denver, so he likes him and needs a veteran that has appeared to mature a bit. My guess is they'll also make a play for Decker to rejoin Josh, but Denver will make a strong push to retain him.

They'll drag in a few other players via FA at WR/TE - not sure what names are out there, and maybe they trade down from their #4 overall pick in R1 to pick up additional picks.

Then, they hire someone like a Wade Phillips to take care of the defense - maybe Josh has his own guy, but a move for someone like Wade could be wise.

Just throwing that out there...

Stop giving McD ideas!! lol

Mile High Mania 12-31-2013 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 10323665)
Stop giving McD ideas!! lol

Well, they're a franchise with a great fan base - similar to KC. I don't know many Brown's fans, maybe a half dozen... but they've had their share of misery. It's time for them to experience something good too. I don't know that it's Josh McDaniels though....

FRCDFED 12-31-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10323671)
Well, they're a franchise with a great fan base - similar to KC. I don't know many Brown's fans, maybe a half dozen... but they've had their share of misery. It's time for them to experience something good too. I don't know that it's Josh McDaniels though....

They are definately in a good position with the extra draft picks. The last time they used two first rounders they bombed. That team should be further along personnel wise than they are. A good GM could add a couple of solid FA, draft well, and make that team competitive in a short period of time.

Mile High Mania 12-31-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 10323676)
They are definately in a good position with the extra draft picks. The last time they used two first rounders they bombed. That team should be further along personnel wise than they are. A good GM could add a couple of solid FA, draft well, and make that team competitive in a short period of time.

Yeah, and firing their HC 11 months in might have been the right thing to do, but hell... that is very Raider-like. You can't get over the hump when you're in constant churn.

htismaqe 12-31-2013 09:46 AM

So Michael Lombardi wants to bring in Josh McD and a Patriot cast-off at QB?

ROFL

So predictable. Inbred mother****ers in NE, all of them.

taterhog 01-02-2014 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10323354)
McDaniels would have TWO first round picks to play with, I can't imagine what he takes with those lol

He'll trade one of those picks to ESPN for Tebow.

taterhog 01-02-2014 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10323659)
So, here's what they'll do...

They'll bring in Josh to coach the team. In FA, he'll trade their 2nd R1 pick (the one from IND, likely in the mid 20s) to NEP for Mallet.

They'll also try to sign FA RB Knowshon Moreno because his contract is up and he's had a stellar year. Moreno was Josh's first round draft pick in 2009 in his first year with Denver, so he likes him and needs a veteran that has appeared to mature a bit. My guess is they'll also make a play for Decker to rejoin Josh, but Denver will make a strong push to retain him.

They'll drag in a few other players via FA at WR/TE - not sure what names are out there, and maybe they trade down from their #4 overall pick in R1 to pick up additional picks.

Then, they hire someone like a Wade Phillips to take care of the defense - maybe Josh has his own guy, but a move for someone like Wade could be wise.

Just throwing that out there...

Moreno instead of Tate? No sarcasm, I just figured Tate was the guy they couldn't live without. I could see Moreno, he would probably be a lot cheaper.

Eleazar 01-02-2014 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10323811)
So Michael Lombardi wants to bring in Josh McD and a Patriot cast-off at QB?

ROFL

So predictable. Inbred mother****ers in NE, all of them.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...will-smith.gif

Amnorix 01-02-2014 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10322750)
Considering Belicheat's draft record, he'd blow all the picks on scrub Rutgers players...who will proceed to kick the Chargers' asses every goddamn time they meet.


FYP

Amnorix 01-02-2014 01:18 PM

Mike Lombardi is a big fan of Belichick's. Not sure if they have background working together.

All that said, I think McDaniels is probably a good coaching candidate in about 2017. Seems to me that he needs to mature a bit more before he is given another shot at being HC.

I'm also shocked that it's the Browns, given that they already had a disastrous experience with Romeo Crennel. For them to try another Pats coordinator, and one who failed so miserably so recently, seems...unwise. Their fan base will have their long knives out from day one.

Mav 01-02-2014 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 10323570)
Trade them both to Belichick for Mallett.



I'm going to let you in a secret:
Spoiler!

And I will let you in on a little secret.

The browns had the worst nickel corner in the league in Chris Owens.

They torched him. And Craig Robertson played like Crap for most of the year.

That's why the team struggled on 3rd down. That and the offense giving the ball up over and over and over.

This had nothing to do with Horton.

Mav 01-02-2014 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 10328577)
Mike Lombardi is a big fan of Belichick's. Not sure if they have background working together.

All that said, I think McDaniels is probably a good coaching candidate in about 2017. Seems to me that he needs to mature a bit more before he is given another shot at being HC.

I'm also shocked that it's the Browns, given that they already had a disastrous experience with Romeo Crennel. For them to try another Pats coordinator, and one who failed so miserably so recently, seems...unwise. Their fan base will have their long knives out from day one.

Lombardi was the GM in 1995 when Bellichick was the Coach in Cleveland.

They have always been close. This is why.

htismaqe 01-02-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10328587)
Lombardi was the GM in 1995 when Bellichick was the Coach in Cleveland.

They have always been close. This is why.

This. Lombardi is part of the tree and not just a branch near the top either.


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