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synthesis2 01-19-2014 05:14 PM

Rent a Championship / Dosent bother me as much
 
I know it will sound like sour grapes, etc etc etc etc etc.

BUTTTTT

The way I look at it is like this, the broncos did what we did when we lured Montana here with the exception that he is still playing at the peak of his game vs. Montana on the downslide of his.

With that being said, its one thing to have a quarterback you drafted and groomed or a quarterback from another team that you built a great team around and you went to a super bowl when it was a team win.

I guess the reason I am not as bent as I thought I would be is because they paid him the most to come there but knowing that if he wasn't there the team is garbage, pretty much a 500 team at best. So you pay a guy and get him there at the end of his career, the TEAM isn't much, they just got lucky to get him.

Like someone winning the lottery and having more money than another guy who had a much better job, doesn't mean the guy who won the lottery is better, just lucky.

Denver as a team doesn't deserve the super bowl nor have they done anything to deserve it.

Manning deserves it by the way he played this year ( and his receivers) but the rest of the team was average at very best.

Put manning on 25 teams this year and he goes to the superbowl with them.

When people from Denver will brag on and on, its not Denver that got them there is was manning 1 , manning 2, and manning 3

Congrats Peyton and recievers, you guys deserved it.

The rest of the team.... Congrats you won the lottery.

Simply Red 01-19-2014 05:19 PM

k

Eleazar 01-19-2014 05:19 PM

douche

kcxiv 01-19-2014 05:19 PM

This is beyond sour grapes its ****ing liquid ass juice. Rent means u gotta let it go at some point. This will stay with Denver til the sun supernovas.

SoCalBronco 01-19-2014 05:23 PM

We goin to the Ship.

Deal with it.

Pepe Silvia 01-19-2014 05:24 PM

A Super Bowl is a Super Bowl.

Psyko Tek 01-19-2014 05:24 PM

ninja I think manning gets his ring and goes off to broadcast land
this year maybe next year deffinately

The Franchise 01-19-2014 05:24 PM

Did I miss the Superbowl? I thought they hadn't played it yet.

Rain Man 01-19-2014 05:34 PM

Denver purchased a Super Bowl just like they purchased the two trophies that they stole in the 90s. I miss the days when football was more about sport and less about who can manipulate the books the best.

houstonwhodat 01-19-2014 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 10379457)
ninja I think manning gets his ring and goes off to broadcast land
this year maybe next year deffinately

This.

Why risk another neck injury.

greatgooglymoogly 01-19-2014 05:38 PM

JFC, I wish one of my teams would "rent" a championship.

houstonwhodat 01-19-2014 05:40 PM

Why does it have to be a "rent" a championship.

He was cut by the Colts and was a free agent.

If Alex Smith and the Chiefs were in the Super Bowl would you say the same thing?

cosmo20002 01-19-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2 (Post 10379404)
I know it will sound like sour grapes, etc etc etc etc etc.

BUTTTTT

The way I look at it is like this, the broncos did what we did when we lured Montana here with the exception that he is still playing at the peak of his game vs. Montana on the downslide of his.

With that being said, its one thing to have a quarterback you drafted and groomed or a quarterback from another team that you built a great team around and you went to a super bowl when it was a team win.

I guess the reason I am not as bent as I thought I would be is because they paid him the most to come there but knowing that if he wasn't there the team is garbage, pretty much a 500 team at best. So you pay a guy and get him there at the end of his career, the TEAM isn't much, they just got lucky to get him.

Like someone winning the lottery and having more money than another guy who had a much better job, doesn't mean the guy who won the lottery is better, just lucky.

Denver as a team doesn't deserve the super bowl nor have they done anything to deserve it.

Manning deserves it by the way he played this year ( and his receivers) but the rest of the team was average at very best.

Put manning on 25 teams this year and he goes to the superbowl with them.

When people from Denver will brag on and on, its not Denver that got them there is was manning 1 , manning 2, and manning 3

Congrats Peyton and recievers, you guys deserved it.

The rest of the team.... Congrats you won the lottery.

DUMB

Mr. Laz 01-19-2014 05:45 PM

make John Elways drink antifreeze until he gags to death
tie the entire manning family to aids trees on the 50 yard line of pile high
burn pile high to the ground
denver donkeys can eat a bag of dicks
screw the entire city of dungver in the ass with a baseball bat
the state of colorado can **** off and die

Chiefs Wonder 01-19-2014 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10379499)
Denver purchased a Super Bowl just like they purchased the two trophies that they stole in the 90s. I miss the days when football was more about sport and less about who can manipulate the books the best.

This. NFL can't let Manning lose. Donks werent even best in AFC west

Rigged

Slainte 01-19-2014 05:51 PM

Good to know that it's not bothering him, though...

houstonwhodat 01-19-2014 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10379553)
make John Elways drink antifreeze until he gags to death
tie the entire manning family to aids trees on the 50 yard line of pile high
burn pile high to the ground
denver donkeys can eat a bag of dicks
screw the entire city of dungver in the ass with a baseball bat
the state of colorado can **** off and die



Colorado is a nice place and the people in Denver are nice.

Plus they have WEED.

George Liquor 01-19-2014 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10379553)
make John Elways drink antifreeze until he gags to death
tie the entire manning family to aids trees on the 50 yard line of pile high
burn pile high to the ground
denver donkeys can eat a bag of dicks
screw the entire city of dungver in the ass with a baseball bat
the state of colorado can **** off and die

I like the cut of your jib.

Original post is stupid

DomCasual 01-19-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Wonder (Post 10379559)
This. NFL can't let Manning lose. Donks werent even best in AFC west

Rigged

:LOL:

Awesome.

milkman 01-19-2014 06:02 PM

Dumbass thread by dumbass.

chiefs1111 01-19-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10379459)
Did I miss the Superbowl? I thought they hadn't played it yet.

Didn't you hear? The NFL is rigged

chaz 01-19-2014 06:03 PM

Whiney ppillow biting bitches. **** you. Some day you silly bitches will be as happy as I am right now, but it will probably be a long ****ing time from now.

We've been to as many SBs in the last hour as you pillowbiters have won playoff games in the last 20 years. Keep hating bitches, sour grapes are wine to us.

George Liquor 01-19-2014 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz (Post 10379626)
Whiney ppillow biting bitches. **** you. Some day you silly bitches will be as happy as I am right now, but it will probably be a long ****ing time from now.

We've been to as many SBs in the last hour as you pillowbiters have won playoff games in the last 20 years. Keep hating bitches, sour grapes are wife to us.

Go eat some granola you stupid hippie.

Jimmya 01-19-2014 06:05 PM

Like nfl radio said "every team would be great with him as the leader....can't say the same for anyone else in the league including Brady."

LoneWolf 01-19-2014 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz (Post 10379626)
Whiney ppillow biting bitches. **** you. Some day you silly bitches will be as happy as I am right now, but it will probably be a long ****ing time from now.

We've been to as many SBs in the last hour as you pillowbiters have won playoff games in the last 20 years. Keep hating bitches, sour grapes are wine to us.

Get your boyfriends cock out of your hands. You can't type for shit.

chaz 01-19-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10379642)
Get your boyfriends cock out of your hands. You can't type for shit.

I'm drunk celebrating a Broncos Playoff win, I guess you wouldn't know anything about that.

George Liquor 01-19-2014 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz (Post 10379670)
I'm drunk celebrating a Broncos Playoff win, I guess you wouldn't know anything about that.

Celebrating a playoff win the the internet? What a pillowbiter. I'd be partying in the streets.

MahiMike 01-19-2014 06:12 PM

2 and done.

LoneWolf 01-19-2014 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz (Post 10379670)
I'm drunk celebrating a Broncos Playoff win, I guess you wouldn't know anything about that.

You're right. I would never get drunk and celebrate a Broncos playoff win. You know what makes a good mixer? Antifreeze. You should try it.

ChiefRocka 01-19-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Wonder (Post 10379559)
This. NFL can't let Manning lose. Donks werent even best in AFC west

Rigged

What.

Red Dawg 01-19-2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10379526)
Why does it have to be a "rent" a championship.

He was cut by the Colts and was a free agent.

If Alex Smith and the Chiefs were in the Super Bowl would you say the same thing?

Uh no. Alex is not considered one of the best ever. Buying Manning does put a small knock on them if they win it all. I doubt they beat the NFC rep though.

King_Chief_Fan 01-19-2014 06:18 PM

Wow just wow
what a loser thread

Big Poppa Payne 01-19-2014 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz (Post 10379626)
Whiney ppillow biting bitches. **** you. Some day you silly bitches will be as happy as I am right now, but it will probably be a long ****ing time from now.

We've been to as many SBs in the last hour as you pillowbiters have won playoff games in the last 20 years. Keep hating bitches, sour grapes are wine to us.

You're a jackoff.

Dayze 01-19-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10379441)
This is beyond sour grapes its ****ing liquid ass juice. Rent means u gotta let it go at some point. This will stay with Denver til the sun supernovas.

lol

GoChargers 01-19-2014 06:43 PM

What an idiotic thread. Players come and go, but banners fly forever. I definitely don't want to see Denver hang another one whether it's "rented" or "earned."

WakkaWakka 01-19-2014 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10379865)
What an idiotic thread. Players come and go, but banners fly forever. I definitely don't want to see Denver hang another one whether it's "rented" or "earned."

I'm actually agreeing with a Chargers fan.

Setsuna 01-19-2014 06:48 PM

ROFL so butthurt.

TEX 01-19-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 10379710)
Wow just wow
what a loser thread

And you added a post...

TEX 01-19-2014 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz (Post 10379670)
I'm drunk celebrating a Broncos Playoff win, I guess you wouldn't know anything about that.

But you're still a ****ing idiot so....

BlackHelicopters 01-19-2014 07:09 PM

Rent ,buy, or build. I will take any of the three. Asshole.

Reerun_KC 01-19-2014 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz (Post 10379626)
Whiney ppillow biting bitches. **** you. Some day you silly bitches will be as happy as I am right now, but it will probably be a long ****ing time from now.

We've been to as many SBs in the last hour as you pillowbiters have won playoff games in the last 20 years. Keep hating bitches, sour grapes are wine to us.

Well. As a cheaps fan. I have zero to stand o for rebuttal this franchise is a joke

chaz 01-19-2014 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Wonder (Post 10379559)
This. NFL can't let Manning lose. Donks werent even best in AFC west

Rigged

You mad bro?

synthesis2 01-19-2014 07:58 PM

Hey just expressing my thoughts on it.

My point is there are at least 10-12 more talented teams besides the donks minus manning. Like the seahawks or 49ers, hell I'll even say the chiefs for that matter.

Just pointing out that when the won with Elway it sucked bad, if they win with manning it won't bother me as much because its like the Miami heat, they got him as a rent a player at the end of his career.

Its not like they built a juggernaut, just got manning and a all start receiving corp, no more no less.

GordonGekko 01-19-2014 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10379865)
What an idiotic thread. Players come and go, but banners fly forever. I definitely don't want to see Denver hang another one whether it's "rented" or "earned."

Exactly, championships are what it is all about and it doesn't really matter how they are attained outside of cheating (Patriots). While I despise Denver and their HOF QB rental, they are still playing football right now and the Chiefs are doing what they always are doing in late January and early February, watching on TV.

synthesis2 01-19-2014 08:12 PM

I never said that and your right a super bowl is a super bowl.

My point is them doing it with him doesn't bother me as much as if they had built a great team and did it with a quarterback that had been there longer who was a solid piece of the puzzle.

Example if they had gone to / won the super bowl with alex smith, it would bother me more because I know he is a good quarterback but not elite.

Hell even the coaches of Denver are aweful, they should give peyton half of their salary.

Just saying it dosent bother me as much because 90 percent of the teams in the nfl with manning would probably be in the same spot.

Denver fans can go on and on about them going / winning, but in reality manning was 100% of why.

Rain Man 01-19-2014 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2 (Post 10380380)
I never said that and your right a super bowl is a super bowl.

My point is them doing it with him doesn't bother me as much as if they had built a great team and did it with a quarterback that had been there longer who was a solid piece of the puzzle.

Example if they had gone to / won the super bowl with alex smith, it would bother me more because I know he is a good quarterback but not elite.

Hell even the coaches of Denver are aweful, they should give peyton half of their salary.

Just saying it dosent bother me as much because 90 percent of the teams in the nfl with manning would probably be in the same spot.

Denver fans can go on and on about them going / winning, but in reality manning was 100% of why.

I would tend to agree. It's not like Denver has a good team. They have Manning. If you have Manning with the NFL rules of 2013, you win a Super Bowl. Congratulations to their accounting department for cutting the appropriate checks. I hope they all get a ring.

The NFL sucks so badly now.

synthesis2 01-19-2014 08:20 PM

Rain man thanks you said it much better than me.

MMXcalibur 01-19-2014 08:20 PM

Thank god for the Pittsburgh Penguins.

chaz 01-19-2014 08:35 PM

You guys resemble your team, you all look like losers.

1993 bitches! Don't forget that shit you whiney ****ing losers.

MahiMike 01-19-2014 08:37 PM

Fantastic game

synthesis2 01-19-2014 08:49 PM

F*** off chaz, I love it when people get tough online... geez..

manchambo 01-19-2014 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2 (Post 10380380)
I never said that and your right a super bowl is a super bowl.

My point is them doing it with him doesn't bother me as much as if they had built a great team and did it with a quarterback that had been there longer who was a solid piece of the puzzle.

Example if they had gone to / won the super bowl with alex smith, it would bother me more because I know he is a good quarterback but not elite.

Hell even the coaches of Denver are aweful, they should give peyton half of their salary.

Just saying it dosent bother me as much because 90 percent of the teams in the nfl with manning would probably be in the same spot.

Denver fans can go on and on about them going / winning, but in reality manning was 100% of why.


That, I suppose, is why Peyton made the Super Bowl every season before now. Same with Favre, Marino, Montana, etc. That's why the Chiefs won the Super Bowl right away when they brought in Montana.


Does anyone know less about championship football than a chiefs fan?

ClevelandBronco 01-19-2014 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 10381161)
That, I suppose, is why Peyton made the Super Bowl every season before now. Same with Favre, Marino, Montana, etc. That's why the Chiefs won the Super Bowl right away when they brought in Montana.


Does anyone know less about championship football than a chiefs fan?

Browns fans?

synthesis2 01-19-2014 09:57 PM

mach,

Your such an idiot, like fans of certain teams know more than fans of another team.

Like you grew up working for the broncos and know them better than other people

Its the most illogical argument to say that certain "fans" of certain teams know more than others. Might be the most flawed logic I have ever seen.

Manning doesn't care about you, he cares about a ring. You are a fan he could care less about. You just got lucky he came to your city and not another.

I was born in L.A. and have always been a lakers fan, does that make me a more knowledgeable fan than most basketball fans? No just means the players they put together in my team won but it has nothing to do with my knowledge as a fan.

synthesis2 01-19-2014 09:59 PM

And you put Manning on the browns with Thomas / Decker and Welker and I say the odds of the browns making the super bowl are very high.

manchambo 01-19-2014 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2 (Post 10381364)
And you put Manning on the browns with Thomas / Decker and Welker and I say the odds of the browns making the super bowl are very high.

And I'm the idiot? Of course if you took the Broncos' best players and put them on another team that team would be good. But your claim was that Manning is the only reason why Denver is any good. The fact that you need to take the entire receiving corps to sund even close to reasonable only proves how wrong you are.

vailpass 01-19-2014 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2 (Post 10379404)
I know it will sound like sour grapes, etc etc etc etc etc.

BUTTTTT

The way I look at it is like this, the broncos did what we did when we lured Montana here with the exception that he is still playing at the peak of his game vs. Montana on the downslide of his.

With that being said, its one thing to have a quarterback you drafted and groomed or a quarterback from another team that you built a great team around and you went to a super bowl when it was a team win.

I guess the reason I am not as bent as I thought I would be is because they paid him the most to come there but knowing that if he wasn't there the team is garbage, pretty much a 500 team at best. So you pay a guy and get him there at the end of his career, the TEAM isn't much, they just got lucky to get him.

Like someone winning the lottery and having more money than another guy who had a much better job, doesn't mean the guy who won the lottery is better, just lucky.

Denver as a team doesn't deserve the super bowl nor have they done anything to deserve it.

Manning deserves it by the way he played this year ( and his receivers) but the rest of the team was average at very best.

Put manning on 25 teams this year and he goes to the superbowl with them.

When people from Denver will brag on and on, its not Denver that got them there is was manning 1 , manning 2, and manning 3

Congrats Peyton and recievers, you guys deserved it.

The rest of the team.... Congrats you won the lottery.

:) congrats on a great turn around season KC. It's great to have the West rivalry alive and well again.

GoChargers 01-19-2014 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2 (Post 10381356)
I was born in L.A. and have always been a lakers fan

That only makes this thread even more reeruned. A Laker fan talking about buying titles... JFC.

TEX 01-19-2014 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 10381192)
Browns fans?

And Lions Fans...

notorious 01-19-2014 10:20 PM

Ummm, every player in the NFL is a hired gun.

ClevelandBronco 01-19-2014 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10380388)
The NFL sucks so badly now.

It really does.

Taco John 01-19-2014 11:25 PM

This is a quarterback driven league. That's really all there is to it.

Without a quarterback, we were a team struggling to make 9-7 like every other team without a quarterback. A good season was 10-6. A really great season was 11-5.

But if you have a great quarterback, the low bar for a good season is the playoffs - and if you don't do it there, that quarterback is a choker who may never be able to get the team over the hump, and a great season is a Superbowl win. There's not much gray area there, but at least you're in the right discussion.

I have no problems with luring a great quarterback to your franchise who puts your team in the right discussion. The beautiful thing is that we have a GM who understands this better than anybody in the league. I hope he's willing to "rent" a few more AFC Championships on his way to a second induction in the HOF.

Bump 01-19-2014 11:27 PM

they were the ones smart enough to go get him and pay him, while the chiefs and everybody else sat back and watched. Didn't want to 'risk it'

Denver shows that sometimes you have to take a big risk if you want a big reward.

notorious 01-19-2014 11:28 PM

JFC, I used to blow off the "KC looks at the Denver game like it's the Superbowl" talk.


I am starting to believe it after time goes on. Pathetic.

Taco John 01-19-2014 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2 (Post 10379404)
Denver as a team doesn't deserve the super bowl nor have they done anything to deserve it.



There's not a single Broncos fan that went through the last 10 years that believes this at all...

Param 01-19-2014 11:46 PM

The Broncos get Peyton Manning as a FA.

The Chiefs surrender two 2nd round draft picks for Alex Smith.

http://media.lockerdome.com/uploads/...ad88528f_large

ChiefsSuckBalls 01-20-2014 01:22 AM

So many hurt butts in this thread. Does preparation H sponsor this place or what?

redshirt32 01-20-2014 02:04 AM

Denver and Seahawks were the teams to beat all year, and now their in the SB MF's hate it but it is what it is.

The rule book has changed to favor WR/QB and if you can pick and get away it then your sucking the right dick,

congrats you bastards see you next year until then we will prepare for the draft once again

God dam this is getting old **** you denv

Why Not? 01-20-2014 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Param (Post 10381732)
The Broncos get Peyton Manning as a FA.

The Chiefs surrender two 2nd round draft picks for Alex Smith.

http://media.lockerdome.com/uploads/...ad88528f_large

In a thread full of idiotic posts, I think you take the cake. Congrats

Why Not? 01-20-2014 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 10381690)
they were the ones smart enough to go get him and pay him, while the chiefs and everybody else sat back and watched. Didn't want to 'risk it'

Denver shows that sometimes you have to take a big risk if you want a big reward.

I'm guessing you missed the part where Manning himself picked what teams he wanted to meet and ultimately sign with?

TEX 01-20-2014 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 10381684)
This is a quarterback driven league. That's really all there is to it.

Without a quarterback, we were a team struggling to make 9-7 like every other team without a quarterback. A good season was 10-6. A really great season was 11-5.

But if you have a great quarterback, the low bar for a good season is the playoffs - and if you don't do it there, that quarterback is a choker who may never be able to get the team over the hump, and a great season is a Superbowl win. There's not much gray area there, but at least you're in the right discussion.

I have no problems with luring a great quarterback to your franchise who puts your team in the right discussion. The beautiful thing is that we have a GM who understands this better than anybody in the league. I hope he's willing to "rent" a few more AFC Championships on his way to a second induction in the HOF.

You left out the part how the teams with the great QB's get the benefit of the calls and/ or non calls because of the fact its a QB driven league...

whoman69 01-20-2014 08:47 AM

I think someone is still butthurt that he didn't come to KC or really even consider the move. Perhaps if we had won or even been to a Super Bowl since Richard Nixon left office, we might have gotten more consideration.

synthesis2 01-20-2014 08:52 AM

I love how so many people are throwing out how idiotic I / others are on these threads, like the love to bully people and when they are typing stuff in there computer they are really tough guys, but in person.... well then they won't say a peep. Cyber bullies can F### themselves, if you want to say it in person, I'm available.


My point of this entire thread was I don't want the Broncos to win no matter what, but if the options were a home grown talent or a good system quarterback

VS.

luring one of the top 5 all time quarterbacks of all time to there team to win a super bowl ( like the Miami heat) Then it doesn't bother me as much.

It still bothers me no matter what, just less because the only way and I mean the only way they do it is by getting him.

Jimmya 01-20-2014 09:05 AM

I hope that kc will continue to search for our qb of the future.

chaz 01-20-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10382043)
I hope that kc will continue to search for our qb of the future.

As Bronco fan I sincerely hope you guys give up on Alex Smith. Here's to the Chiefs finding the next Matt Cassell. ROFL

Mile High Mania 01-20-2014 11:27 AM

The 'rental' and/or 'buying' a title narrative is comical really.

The guy is blasted for his playoff record and the picture is painted as if the cupboard was bare in Denver before his arrival. Yet, they are buying a title?

I get the angst towards Denver around here, but this is crazy talk.

tooge 01-20-2014 11:39 AM

Yeah, I'm sure alot of the talk like this thread is purely sour grapes. Having said that, I do get the premise of the the thread. In 1989 for example, I hated Denver, I hated Elway, and it made my day as much if the donks lost as if the chiefs won. I think that was because Elway was a bronco through and through. They drafted him (sort of), and he was the franchise. And of course, as history would show, he went on to define them.

This donk team is different. Manning made all his hooplah as a colt. I don't hate the colts. I don't like them, but its different. They haven't been in our division. So, while I still hate the donks, Manning doesn't define them, so my hate with him at the helm is less. Make sense? Probably not, but I feel sort of the same way.

In '97 and '98, it was gut wrenching to watch Elway's broncos hoist the trophy. Now, it's not the broncos, its Manning. It's just not the same.

manchambo 01-20-2014 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2 (Post 10382019)
I love how so many people are throwing out how idiotic I / others are on these threads, like the love to bully people and when they are typing stuff in there computer they are really tough guys, but in person.... well then they won't say a peep. Cyber bullies can F### themselves, if you want to say it in person, I'm available.


My point of this entire thread was I don't want the Broncos to win no matter what, but if the options were a home grown talent or a good system quarterback

VS.

luring one of the top 5 all time quarterbacks of all time to there team to win a super bowl ( like the Miami heat) Then it doesn't bother me as much.

It still bothers me no matter what, just less because the only way and I mean the only way they do it is by getting him.

But your premise is completely wrong. The Chiefs "lured" arguably the best QB of all time and they didn't even reach the Superbowl. Marino only got to the Superbowl once. The Colts had Manning for many years and only got there twice. In fact, before now, everyone on this board liked to talk about how Manning is a choke artist and would never get Denver to a championship.

It is categorically false that a team can buy a championship simply by bringing in a top QB. Denver has a spectacular receiving corps consisting mostly of home-grown talent and a pretty spectacular o-line. That's why Denver has one of the best offenses ever--better even than Manning's previous offenses with the Colts.

DomCasual 01-20-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by synthesis2 (Post 10382019)
I love how so many people are throwing out how idiotic I / others are on these threads, like the love to bully people and when they are typing stuff in there computer they are really tough guys, but in person.... well then they won't say a peep. Cyber bullies can F### themselves, if you want to say it in person, I'm available.

I love how imbeciles on the Interwebs suggest that they would be willing to physically fight over something like a sports argument, if they were having said argument in person. :facepalm:

Rain Man 01-20-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 10382553)
But your premise is completely wrong. The Chiefs "lured" arguably the best QB of all time and they didn't even reach the Superbowl. Marino only got to the Superbowl once. The Colts had Manning for many years and only got there twice. In fact, before now, everyone on this board liked to talk about how Manning is a choke artist and would never get Denver to a championship.

It is categorically false that a team can buy a championship simply by bringing in a top QB. Denver has a spectacular receiving corps consisting mostly of home-grown talent and a pretty spectacular o-line. That's why Denver has one of the best offenses ever--better even than Manning's previous offenses with the Colts.

I gotta offer a couple of counterpoints.

In the past, a top QB wasn't a guarantee. In 2013, it's a guarantee unless Manning completely chokes (which admittedly is possible). The game has fundamentally changed over the last three years as the NFL changes its rules to increase its marketing appeal to non-fans, and it's nothing but a scoring derby now. It's the highest scoring season in NFL history, with the most yards and most passing yards ever recorded. The league is in completely uncharted waters, so history can't inform us of what works and what doesn't work. All we can do is look at this season.

Second, an objective person can't say that Denver has a "spectacular receiving corps". Other than Welker, those same players were no-name journeymen before Manning came on board. Manning makes them look spectacular, but it's all Manning. The Broncos aren't drafting gems in the late rounds where they got people like Julius Thomas and Eric Decker. The truth is that in this era a quarterback like Manning will make everyone around him a pro bowler. It's the way the game works now.

Congrats on your Super Bowl win, I guess.


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