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Direckshun 02-04-2014 05:15 PM

Mock (2/4)
 
It's a little more detailed now that I'm using Over the Cap's Salary Cap Calculator.

Assumptions:

1. The Chiefs extend Alex Smith 4 years, $60m ($36m guaranteed), OLB Justin Houston 5 years, $42m ($21m guaranteed), and S Eric Berry 6 years, $38m ($18m guaranteed).

2. The Chiefs trade Brandon Flowers to the Oakland Raiders for a 2nd round pick.

3. The Chiefs restructure WR Dwayne Bowe, OLB Tamba Hali, CB Sean Smith, and K Ryan Succop.

4. The Chiefs resign WR Dexter McCluster to a 4 year, $13m deal ($4m guaranteed), OG Geoff Schwartz to a 3 year, $6m deal.

5. The Chiefs place a 6th round tender on Jerrell Powe.

7. The Chiefs re-sign S Quentin Demps and LS Thomas Gafford to minimal deals.

8. The Chiefs let walk: WR Kyle Williams, OT Brandon Albert, OG Jon Asamoah, DE Tyson Jackson, OLB Frank Zombo, ILB Akeem Jordan, S Kendrick Lewis, S Husain Abdullah

9. The Chiefs cut: TE Anthony Fasano, ILB Derrick Johnson, CB Dunta Robinson

10. The Chiefs sign WR Jeremy Maclin (Eagles) to a 3-year, $15m deal ($1m guaranteed), OT Khalif Barnes (Raiders) to a 1 year, $2m deal, S Chris Clemons (Dolphins) to a 4-year, $20m deal ($4m guaranteed).

On with the show:

1.23. CB Jason Verrett, TCU

Verrett projects, really, to be the next Brandon Flowers. Sized at about 5'10", he possesses the same physical dimensions with Flowers, along with a sterling record as a physical, fast corner that the Chiefs can pair with Sean Smith in 2014, and with potentially Marcus Cooper or Ron Parker as they continue ascending in 2015.

Ultimately, you need players right for your scheme. Brandon Flowers was drafted and served primarily as a Cover 2 corner. He had some success in Crennel's bend-but-don't-break, but it's clear he's not cut out for the high-pressure island that Sutton prefers to run. It's likely that both of the team's starting corners will need to be replaced, but for now the Chiefs are taking a size/scheme/age/cap-friendly upgrade, and netting a 2nd rounder in return.

2.36 (from OAK). TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington

Seferian-Jenkins is looking more and more like he's going to slip a bit to the 2nd round as Amaro and Ebron suck all the oxygen out of the 1st round for TEs. This would be a great coup for the Chiefs, as a physical wonder at TE who needs help with his route-running is exactly the kind of talent you hope to land here.

3.87. DE Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina

Quarles needs to work on his ground game, no question, but where he really sets himself apart is his relentless passrushing. He stacked up 9.5 sacks last season from the interior position. He is this year's Derek Wolfe, and should spend the offseason battling with Allen Bailey and Mike Catapano to replace Tyson Jackson at DE.

4.119. OLB James Gayle, Virginia Tech

Gayle has outstanding size and measurable, plus he had bloodlines in the NFL. He would be a great talent to groom behind Hali and Houston.

5.151. ILB Christian Kirksey, Iowa

With the exit of Derrick Johnson, the Chiefs are going to need somebody adept in coverage and reading plays. Kirksey is an outstanding coverage 'backer, and is almost Kuechly-esque in his ability to cover ground.

6.177. ILB Andrew Jackson, Western Kentucky

A physical wrecking ball of a player; the Chiefs need somebody more physical to dominate the line of scrimmage behind their DL.

6.183. CB Kendall James, Maine

A 5'11" corner with 4.3 speed, Dorsey takes a shot here on a developmental prospect.

The Franchise 02-04-2014 05:16 PM

We cut DJ and traded Flowers so that we could give McCluster a new deal? **** you.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2014 05:17 PM

Cut DJ?

Wut?

Direckshun 02-04-2014 05:20 PM

QB: Smith, Daniel, Bray
RB: Charles, Davis, Gray
FB: Sherman

WR: Bowe, Maclin, Avery, McCluster, Jenkins, Hemingway
TE: Seferian-Jenkins, Kelce, McGrath

LT: Fisher/Stephenson, Barnes
LG: Allen, Johnson
C: Hudson, Kush
RG: Schwartz, Johnson
RT: Fisher/Stephenson, Barnes

DE: DeVito, Quarles
NT: Poe, Powe
DE: Bailey, Catapano

OLB: Hali, Gayle
ILB: Johnson, Jackson
ILB: Kirksey, Johnson
OLB: Houston, Moses

CB: Verrett, Smith, Cooper, Parker, James
S: Berry, Clemons, Commings, Demps

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford

Direckshun 02-04-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10414139)
We cut DJ and traded Flowers so that we could give McCluster a new deal? **** you.

Flowers is not a scheme fit. And he can net us a high-rounder in return from a corner-hungry team like the Fade.

DJ, well... he was free to cut. He costs us not a single dollar if we cut him.

The Franchise 02-04-2014 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10414160)
Flowers is not a scheme fit. And he can net us a high-rounder in return from a corner-hungry team like the Fade.

DJ, well... he was free to cut. He costs us not a single dollar if we cut him.

And cutting DJ is not worth keeping McCluster. **** that midget.

Direckshun 02-04-2014 05:28 PM

Is he worth cutting to land Clemons? Maclin?

The Franchise 02-04-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10414171)
Is he worth cutting to land Clemons? Maclin?

We wouldn't need to if YOU'D STOP ****ING EXTENDING HOUSTON THIS YEAR.

Direckshun 02-04-2014 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10414173)
We wouldn't need to if YOU'D STOP ****ING EXTENDING HOUSTON THIS YEAR.

LMAO

Business decision. You sign him for $6m/year now, or $10m/year next year.

The Bad Guy 02-04-2014 05:30 PM

You're not restructuring Flowers and Succop again. If you're asking Succop to restructure he should just be cut.

The Bad Guy 02-04-2014 05:31 PM

They aren't cutting DJ, who has a team friendly deal.

Flowers isn't getting traded either.

Direckshun 02-04-2014 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10414176)
You're not restructuring Flowers and Succop again. If you're asking Succop to restructure he should just be cut.

Why not? And why?

The Bad Guy 02-04-2014 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10414181)
Why not? And why?

Why are you pushing more of Succop's money into the future? Same for Flowers. Restructuring guys year after year is never smart business and will bite you in the long run.

I'd see about replacing Succop in the draft. There's about a million in cap savings and when guys from college are emerging all over the league as kickers, Succop hasn't been lights out enough that his job is secure.

The Bad Guy 02-04-2014 05:50 PM

I'd let Flowers play out this year, but next year he'd be gone when you can save over 7.5

Extend Berry, Alex, and cut bait with Dunta.

Direckshun 02-04-2014 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10414213)
Why are you pushing more of Succop's money into the future? Same for Flowers. Restructuring guys year after year is never smart business and will bite you in the long run.

I'd see about replacing Succop in the draft. There's about a million in cap savings and when guys from college are emerging all over the league as kickers, Succop hasn't been lights out enough that his job is secure.

Fair point.

TambaBerry 02-04-2014 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10414221)
I'd let Flowers play out this year, but next year he'd be gone when you can save over 7.5

Extend Berry, Alex, and cut bait with Dunta.

This man listen to him

Direckshun 02-04-2014 05:59 PM

They probably cut Sean Smith next year, too.

Understand that means you're hunting for two starting corners in the same offseason.

Direckshun 02-04-2014 06:00 PM

What's your sense, TBG, on the possibility of extending Houston this offseason?

Do you anticipate they'll hold off 'til next year?

TambaBerry 02-04-2014 06:02 PM

This is why I've been preaching corner in the first. Extend Houston next year.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-04-2014 06:03 PM

Cutting DJ is just dumb . That taking us in the wrong direckshun.

Direckshun 02-04-2014 06:04 PM

Again, we have maximum leverage on Houston right now.

Let's just eat our vegetables before they're the last thing on the plate. Pay the man, and move on.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-04-2014 06:36 PM

D, that's a pretty sad attempt at grabbing attention.

The Bad Guy 02-04-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10414240)
They probably cut Sean Smith next year, too.

Understand that means you're hunting for two starting corners in the same offseason.

I don't think Smith is going anywhere this year.

The Bad Guy 02-04-2014 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10414259)
Again, we have maximum leverage on Houston right now.

Let's just eat our vegetables before they're the last thing on the plate. Pay the man, and move on.

I don't think it's a priority. They won't have a problem franchising him next year.

RealSNR 02-04-2014 06:44 PM

This is the first I've ever heard of anybody suggesting cutting Derrick Johnson. He has shown zero signs of slowing down, has no injury concerns, is a Pro Bowler, still only 30 years old, and his cap number is decent.

You're only cutting him to save cash. That makes zero sense.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2014 07:39 PM

You should lock this thread and hurry to post a re-do...

Bowser 02-04-2014 08:01 PM

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O.city 02-04-2014 08:15 PM

If we traded Flowers, I woulnd't turn around and spend a 1st rounder on his replacement.

Saccopoo 02-04-2014 08:37 PM

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Direckshun 02-04-2014 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10414373)
I don't think Smith is going anywhere this year.

I didn't say this year. I said next year.

Smith signed a three year contract. I can't see him playing it out with the way he folded down the stretch last year.

I'm guessing the Chiefs are looking for a way to part ways with Flowers. He's not a fit for this scheme, and while I don't think Dorsey/Reid/Sutton are slaves to tall corners like Sac suggests they are, I definitely know they aren't down for a 5'9" starter.

Cutting or restructuring Flowers is just too costly, you're dead right. I tried to find a way out that would net the team something positive: a trade (which has the same cap impact as cutting) which would ideally net us a 2nd rounder.

I understand it's unlikely. I was just testing out an idea. That's kind of what these are.

The way you describe it (letting Flowers play out this year, and moving on from him afterwards to save ~$7m) makes the most sense. They can save that amount now, however, and net a 2nd if they were able to secure a trade.

O.city 02-04-2014 10:29 PM

I'm waiting on a mock that starts with Hageman.

Until then, get bent

Direckshun 02-04-2014 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10414376)
I don't think it's a priority. They won't have a problem franchising him next year.

Man, I gotta disagree. You're obviously a lot closer to the horse's mouth than I am, but the cap situation for next year if we do ANY restructuring this offseason (which we're going to have to) looks a lot worse than it is this year.

Direckshun 02-04-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10414390)
This is the first I've ever heard of anybody suggesting cutting Derrick Johnson. He has shown zero signs of slowing down, has no injury concerns, is a Pro Bowler, still only 30 years old, and his cap number is decent.

You're only cutting him to save cash. That makes zero sense.

I don't disagree.

The logic behind all this is that the Chiefs have such severe holes at TE, WR, front seven depth and S, with so little cap room, that the Chiefs are simply going to have to resign themselves to entering the season with holes on the roster. There's just no way to plug them all with the limited cap room we have, 'less we get lucky and score a starter with a 7th rounder or something.

I figured a hole at ILB would be more forgivable than a hole at any of the current holes we actually have.

It was a thought.

Direckshun 02-04-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10414614)
If we traded Flowers, I woulnd't turn around and spend a 1st rounder on his replacement.

Bringing in Verrett would be the fastest, cheapest way to replace Flowers in the long term.

O.city 02-04-2014 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10414995)
Bringing in Verrett would be the fastest, cheapest way to replace Flowers in the long term.

Sure


But, while he wasn't pulling all the triggers there, Green Bay has always been pretty good at finding DBS.

Plus, while we did have holes, it's tough to account for who what might improve with another year in the system.

O.city 02-04-2014 10:40 PM

I'm also not extremely worried about he salary cap at this point, as for 1 I don't know much about moving money around, and 2 teams always seem to be able to do what they need too

Direckshun 02-04-2014 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10415001)
Sure

But, while he wasn't pulling all the triggers there, Green Bay has always been pretty good at finding DBS.

Plus, while we did have holes, it's tough to account for who what might improve with another year in the system.

Fair point.

O.city 02-04-2014 10:42 PM

Maybe comings and kelce are huge hits. Maybe catapano and Bailey take a big step.

Maybe Jenkins turns it on.

Who knows

KC native 02-04-2014 10:43 PM

Verrett is a beast in coverage. As a TCU alum and fan, I wouldn't mind seeing him play for the Chiefs but I worry about his size at the next level. He may be projected as a 1st rounder but I would hesitate to draft him before the 2nd round.

O.city 02-04-2014 10:44 PM

Wait, is Shane skov in the draft? If so, there's your third rounder.

Direckshun 02-04-2014 10:46 PM

Skov is in the draft, yup.

O.city 02-04-2014 10:47 PM

I'd kill to come out of this sucker with Hageman and Skov in round 1&3.

Add Clemons and Maclin in free agency, and I'm ready to roll

O.city 02-04-2014 10:47 PM

Although, of we had the money, Donald Butler would be a target of mine in free agency

aturnis 02-05-2014 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10414139)
We cut DJ and traded Flowers so that we could give McCluster a new deal? **** you.

This. How do you justify passing McCluster that kind of Jack?

aturnis 02-05-2014 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10414171)
Is he worth cutting to land Clemons? Maclin?

Doubtful. One of the best players at his position on the league, vs also rans.

Direckshun 02-05-2014 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10415487)
This. How do you justify passing McCluster that kind of Jack?

I figure that'll be the going price if we retain him.

OldSchool 02-05-2014 10:56 AM

I would let McCluster walk, he can easily be upgraded in the draft. I don't see any team trading their 2nd round pick for Flowers who was terrible in coverage last year.

Chief Roundup 02-05-2014 11:15 AM

If we trade Flowers won't we have to eat the rest of his signing bonus this year? If that is so it would cost us 7 mil on the cap to cut him this year.
According to over the cap we still have 3 million in 2014, 3 million in 2015, and 1 million in 2016 left of his signing bonus that has to go towards our cap.

Direckshun 02-05-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10415650)
If we trade Flowers won't we have to eat the rest of his signing bonus this year? If that is so it would cost us 7 mil on the cap to cut him this year.
According to over the cap we still have 3 million in 2014, 3 million in 2015, and 1 million in 2016 left of his signing bonus that has to go towards our cap.

According to Over the Cap, he would cost us $3m in 2014 if we traded him away.

Chief Roundup 02-05-2014 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10415654)
According to Over the Cap, he would cost us $3m in 2014 if we traded him away.

The way I read that is it would save us 3.5 million on the cap this year if he was traded or cut. He is due 10.5 mil in base salary.

Chief Roundup 02-05-2014 11:25 AM

Not much savings for a premium position in this league. A rookie is going to have a steep learning curve.

Direckshun 02-05-2014 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10415669)
The way I read that is it would save us 3.5 million on the cap this year if he was traded or cut. He is due 10.5 mil in base salary.

hmmmmm...

htismaqe 02-06-2014 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10415487)
This. How do you justify passing McCluster that kind of Jack?

That's about what the Chiefs would give him, maybe more.

I said it a week ago - people are gonna be pissed when McCluster signs.

patteeu 02-06-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10414390)
This is the first I've ever heard of anybody suggesting cutting Derrick Johnson. He has shown zero signs of slowing down, has no injury concerns, is a Pro Bowler, still only 30 years old, and his cap number is decent.

You're only cutting him to save cash. That makes zero sense.

Direckshun doesn't care about winning. He just wants to play us for suckers and line his pockets.

patteeu 02-06-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10414614)
If we traded Flowers, I woulnd't turn around and spend a 1st rounder on his replacement.

Especially a replacement he describes as the next Brandon Flowers, i.e. the guy he trades because he's not a scheme fit.

Direckshun 02-06-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10417160)
Direckshun doesn't care about winning. He just wants to play us for suckers and line his pockets.

Egggggsellent.

Halfcan 02-06-2014 10:56 AM

Cut DJ? Our most consistent D player-not likely.

He will be here next year to break the Chiefs tackle record and many years after that. He will be in the Ring of Fame for the Chiefs.

OldSchool 02-06-2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 10417162)
Especially a replacement he describes as the next Brandon Flowers, i.e. the guy he trades because he's not a scheme fit.

Verrett is much faster and more athletic than Flowers. He's closer to Lardarius Webb and Tim Jennings than he is to being Flowers.

Halfcan 02-06-2014 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10417049)
That's about what the Chiefs would give him, maybe more.

I said it a week ago - people are gonna be pissed when McCluster signs.

We have the Canadian midget now-so we might let him walk. :hmmm:


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