Do you use it?
 

I'm curious how many CP members use radar detecting or lidar defeating technology. I know 2 "states" (DC and Virginia) prohibit the use of detectors, about a dozen states prohibit lidar jamming and the feds prohibit all radar jamming.

So let's hear it CP what kind of setup do you use? Any good stories just missing a ticket? Poll forthcoming.

A friend of mine and some of his fellow Navy buddies got sick of the speed traps the local cops ran just outside the base. Not sure how it works, but they started blasting their ship's radar during the speed traps & fried the cops' radar. Worked for awhile until the cops figured it out and complained to the Navy. That ended it, but they sure enjoyed the shit out of their payback while it lasted. I want one of those...

btw, you forgot the Gaz option.:)

LMAO. That would effectively jam a radar - sending a much more powerful signal back at the source. Yeah I did :(

I have a detector for driving long trips. I also speed up after cresting a hill and seeing the length or the highway to the next hill, center clear -right shoulder clear- speed up watching oncoming for a patrol car. Let off the gas and coast to the next crest. Repeat. Knowing how radar works and drive to my advantage. On one hand it's speeding on the other hand I'm a very alert driver. I also take my medicine if I get stopped.

yup - doesn't happen often but I do find it interesting how there is a difference in attitude between traffic cops for large depts and the smaller departments who just happen to be running traffic. I think the "traffic cops" would write their mother a ticket

Sounds a lot like driving on I-70 lol

Well, I do have many hours on I-70

:LOL: yeah I can imagine

What Brand/Model do you use for your FCC guaranteed right to "hear" those radio freqs

Oh, and actually I'm referring to a specific stop in Kansas several yeas ago. Driving from Dallas to KC to see a girl.... Small county sheriff deputy is a bit behind me with his lights on, so I stop. I'm still in partial uniform and say I just saw him, and agreed I was in a hurry.

He said he thought I was running from him so he gave me a ticket. I just said thank you, but remember thinking I was already a half county ahead of him, if I was running from him, then why did I stop?

I just have an old radar detector, it works about 10% of the time and half of those times I already slowed down because of the terrain

Riiiiight?

Yeah I got nailed by a Denver traffic cop a while back - 31-20
I didn't see the change becauseI was too busy focusing on the dark colored vehicle with the door slightly ajar parked on the side of the road - it was him with a LIDAR when I finally figured it out waaay too late

Wasn't in uniform - just gimmie my ticket - but damn you would've thought I had just ran over a dozen kindergartners with his attitude

I used to own a Cobra something or other but chucked it in the garbage because EVERYTHING set it off and it became quite the annoyance

Could I yes? Do I? No...it's not simply worth the effort. Could I build a system to overload both radar and laser? Yes I have the technical knowledge to do so. The simple reality is that you don't gain as much by doing so as you might think.

There are other ways to detect a car outside of radar, laser that are legally permissible. One is pacing. Don't pay attention and have a cop follow behind you and all the jamming in the world won't save you. Two is aerial observation. They can have a plan fly above you to pace you. All the tech in the world won't stop that. Finally the cop can visually estimate your speed. That is legally permissible in most jurisdictions and your active countermeasures won't do shit against it.

Detectors can have some value, but are best against radar and not so hot against laser.

Understand outside of school zones I always speed, I laugh hat how much people are pussies who refuse to pass a cop on the highway. If the cop isn't flashing his lights to slow traffic for some issue I have no problem going 5-7MPH over the speed limit to pass them. Could they pull me over? Sure but it's not generally worth their effort.

That's part of the key to avoid being the big target(and don't act guilty). Heh make the cop want to pull over someone else more. But one other key piece of advice, don't be a dick. You probably can't talk yourself out of a ticket...but you sure as hell can talk yourself into one!

:spock:

yes I am aware of all of the above - Pacing is rare in the city and arial is almost exclusively a BFE tactic....RADAR jammers are illegal federally and carry some stiff penalties - LIDAR jammers used in states that prohibit them a generally less severe but could still land you in the county pokey for a few days.

I'm really just curious who uses them if anyone...

Sorry I wasn't suggesting people don't know it , I was just listing why it's not worth my effort to do it. As per radar jammers being illegal...sure...but the reality is you won't have the gear to detect it unless I really give you reason to do so.

Lidar Jamming isn't really illegal in most places because its not regulated by the FCC, but technically it's much harder to do effectively because many countermeasures can be defeated in a straight forward way.

The on exception is automated speed cameras etc. Not only are those the devil, they're also much easier to fry because you know where there are. If someone really wanted to cook the camera sensor and or the lidar/radar sensor for those they could do so much easier

For me the issue is you're always fighting the losing battle here, it's better to drive 'smarter' than it is to try to beat the tech.

Don't need detecting gear to visually clock your speed when my radar won't lock on, make a traffic stop and inspect the vehicle for a jamming device and confiscate the device or Impound the vehicle. Lidar would have to be more obvious. Correct lidar is not regulated by the FCC but rather the FDA. Many states (about 12) have enacted state laws prohibiting the use of lidar jammers. See CRS 42-4-1415

Communications act of 1934 section 333 and 501

$10,000 fine and/or 1 year imprisonment for jamming radar.

State law is $1000 and/or 3 days up to 6 months IIRC

See, that is my issue. I used to use them, all the way back to the original "fuzz buster" then "fuzz buster II" "Escort", "Cobra". 55 sucked!

I haven't had a ticket in 15 years running naked driving coast to coast. 75-80 is plenty fast on the interstate for me.

This. With the new speed limit laws on the interstates I don't feel the need to speed. If the speed limit is 75, I'll set my cruise control on 80 and I know technically that is speeding but I also know that it isn't worth the cops time to pull me over. I don't understand all the lead footed drivers who feel it necessary to drive 90-100 on the interstate.

Exactly, and you usually catch up to them anyway.

I really irks me when I see some young gal in a toy car going that fast.

Both of my daughters had accidents at an early age that scared the crap out of them, and now they are very cautious. At 80, you are going 88 feet per second.

Oh, and the other thing, especially on my Ram 1500, the gas mileage difference is huge.

Yep. I don't understand hwy speeding. It's the in city speeding that gets you 45 in a 35 or 50 in a 40.

That always amuses me. It must suck for cops though when they get on the highway and traffic drops to 3-5mph under the speed limit. There have been several times when I've gotten out of a cluster**** of cars and look back a minute or two later to see a wall of cars.... a few times, the cop will get out of it and get behind me going ~3mph over and I want to push my luck, but try not to. :)

Speeding in the city makes even less sense to me. With all the traffic and start/stop driving, you aren't getting anywhere faster. You're also more likely to get stopped or get in an accident.

Yeah, even going 75-80 in a 70 can be hard if there are a lot of trucks on the road, since so many people can't pass one without dropping to the speed limit or under.... anyone you pass just ends up right behind you at the next cluster**** of cars.

I try to stay just under 80 for longer drives... it cuts down the ~200 mile trip to Omaha by about 20 minutes and at least at one time in MO, the difference between 9 over and 10 over was like $30 (IIRC), so the logical thing would be to either drive at 79 or 85+ (not that it never happens... :D ).

Not the I drive 45 everywhere I go crowd but the 45 Mph that randomly drops to 35 because a council person likes 35 on that stretch of road. My favorite is a couple towns over the state hwy is 65 Mph even thru some of the towns. Then you get to this one Town and it drops to 50 for about 1/4 mile then back to 65. Wtf

Like someone said above, I just take my medicine if I get stopped. I don't ridiculously speed, but I could be stopped for technically speeding just about every day, so I can't really complain.

Yeah, there's really no logical point unless you're trying to cut off several minutes of a long drive. People who really think getting past one more car is worth it just slow down traffic by cutting off people.

I use the "I donated to XXX Police Fund" sticker in the driver side rear window. Also Being 50 and looking it helps some. I try to stay within 5mph of the posted limit most of the time or go with the flow of traffic, whichever is faster. We have a little town close to me on major 2 lane (65mph) highway. When I say little I mean no stoplights, 1/4 mile frontage 25 people small where the speed limit drops from 65 to 35 for that 1/4 mile then back up. It is the main revenue source for the town.

Lump me in the 5 mph over group. Seems to work most of the time, knock on wood. Sometimes I'll go faster if there's a big convoy of people speeding, as long as I can get somewhere in the middle of it.

I use a Beltronics radar detector and it works very well. I cover the state of Montana and if the roads are nice I get after it. I have slowed way down from the no speed limit days, or the days when it was a $5 ticket, but I normally keep it at 10 over. In Montana you get a $20 ticket that doesn't go on your record for anything 10 MPH over or less. That's to say if the MHP even wants to take the time to pull you over for $20. That's only happened to me once.

Around here the MHP will give you the quick pull on the radar at the last minute so by the time your radar detector goes off, you're screwed. Mine has some serious range, so 99% of the time it will pick up the MHP gunning someone else miles up the road before I get to him, so I know he's around. I haven't had a ticket that has gone on my record for over 25 years. (Disclaimer: I had to bullshit my way out of one about five years ago)

My Ram, has a pretty small engine (4.7) compared to the huge frontal area of the truck, so that little motor really works hard at higher speeds, especially into the wind.
At 75, it will get about 10mpg in 4th, but at 65 it gets about 15 in 4th. It is a stick, so 5th gear is basically overdrive and really kills it. It gets better mileage at 3000rpm in 4th than it does at 1800 rpm in 5th when it is lugging.

I go 5 miles over the limit in good weather. Most cops are told to target 5+...

5-7 miles over haven't had a ticket since high school. Doesn't mean I don't speed every once in a while. I have done over a 100 mph every once in a while.

Other.

I drive around in BFE where are no cops :D

Real answer is none.

I use an app called Waze.... Most people report where the cops are hidden with it.

Tracking radar, the military has the cool toys.
In the HAWK system we called it the HPI, High Powered Illuminator. The HPI also had a TAS Camera, Tracking Adjunct Sensor. We could get a visual lock on just about any target then slave the HPI to the TAS, turn the HPI transmitter on and blast it with a thousand plus Watts of radiation. We could literally cook birds out of the sky with it.
And yes, such a system would to a number on any traffic radar it locked on to.

If you do the math, speeding doesn't really do much unless it's a very long trip.

I did back when i was a teen and early 20's


not now, too old for that shit

Escort Passport I bought for $300 3 yrs ago and in those 3 yrs I've only gotten 1 speeding ticket. Thing is a life saver. I never travel without it.

Used to drive like a dumbass, pretty much sped everywhere. But since my daughter came along, I just drive like an old man. Silly waste of gas...

DC I'm sorry but I read the thread title, "poll, do you use it?" Saw your name and laughed. I know I need to grow the **** up...

Escort.

Don't leave home without it.

I have the wireless one. Solo.

I haven't had a ticket in years.

I call it selective speeding, and I'm a master at it. I've got 1 speeding ticket in the last several years and it was early in the morning, I was trying to pass a truck before my exit, and got popped because my dumbass didn't see the cop. Told him he had me dead to rights, and accepted the ticket. Otherwise, by using the same methods you yourself employ, I have thus far avoided any other tickets. I've thought about getting a detector, and I'm willing to pay top dollar for one, I just don't know what really works anymore with how fast technology moves.

Heh, I've had the same conversation with my wife. I'm either doing 78 or around 89. If you're gonna risk it, you may as well run.

Doesn't do a bit of good to name drop anyway.
I got pulled over in KC for speeding once and saw the radar the officer used was one the company I work for makes. So I told the officer I probably bench tested his radar when it was made and he said, "That's great, sign here."

Escort 9500 with the GPS worth every penny

I spent a lot of money on a Rocky Mountain radar jammer approximately a decade ago. I didn't think it worked all that well. I haven't even used a radar detector in a number of years. I should probably grab one at some point.

Or just drive the speed limit and save your money.
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I drive 5-10mph over the speed of traffic. Haven't had a ticket in 4 years.

I thought I taught you better than that.

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