Gas Grills
 

I have a Kenmore gas grill and a Weber 22" kettle charcoal grill.

I used my Weber for smoking and whatnot and the gas grill for quick cooking.

The flavorizer bars and the drip tray sheet metal is all rotted out on the gas grill so I need to either replace these pieces or replace the whole damn grill.

I know the Weber gas grills are good but real expensive.

I'd like to find one that has a smoking tray built right in and maybe an infared burner for searing steaks.

I may even consider a Traeger.

Any ideas?

I recommend one with a side burner. You'll thank me later.

Not sure if this is sarcasm. I used to think the sideburner was brilliant, but truth is I never use it.

I've used mine once in 12 years on my Weber, although I didn't pay for it.

I like charcoal grills best don't curr for anything else but will use them if need too.

I've used mine precisely never.

I've got a Brinkmann. It's a good medium between shit ass terrible walmart quality and weber.

My buddy and my mom have a traeger. It doesn't get very hot so it is about equivalent time wise to using charcoal. You can do some nice things with it but getting a nice good sear on a burger is tough. My mom has had a ****ton of problems with hers. My buddy has had none except when his dog ate the wires. Not sure what means over the general population, but there are at least potential for problems.

I'd like to have a traeger but the gas is the better value for me until I have far more disposable income to run both.

I've never used my side burner either. Probably because I'm lazy and don't want to have to fill the tank more often.

I'm lazy and use a Traeger. My wife and I love the food it produces.

What kind of problems did the Traeger have?

The damn thing is already 1000.00

Supposedly the quality of Traeger has plummeted over the last 5+ years.

I'd recommend Yoder if you're looking for a quality pellet feeder.

Infrared/Gas shit for yard bird

Lump charcoal for the Hibachi (Beef Pork)

http://www.yodersmokers.com/images/wichita_hero.png

Use this for smoking

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This for gas grilling

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And this for charcoal grilling. This is the exact set-up I have in my backyard/deck. Spend a little more upfront for the Weber gas grill and a Yoder smoker. They will last for a long time and you will always be able to produce great food from them.

I think I'm going to be picking this guy up in the next week or so.
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In 3 years you need a place to dump it.

Sideburners are perhaps the most overrated feature of grills in the history of grills. Not saying that they don't have their uses, but most people don't use them and never miss them.

Traeger makes large steaming piles of shit, their product sucks.

To my knowledge they've replaced the thermostat twice, the igniter at least once and have had a ton of problems getting the pellets to feed right. I'm not sure what the problem ended up being there. And that's just the shit I know of. I know I've seen other traeger parts around, I just don't know what the problems were.

Like I said though, I have a buddy with the same model that has had no problems.

I have a Weber Genesis gas grill without a side burner, and there hasn't been a single time where I wished it had one.

Weber Genesis. Had 2-3 others before and had hotspots/poor quality/wouldn't get hot enough/poor design etc.

I bought the Genesis 10 years ago and never looked back. I have a cover for it and still looks new. I just grilled 2 weeks ago in -10F weather. This baby ran up to 600F in 5 min. Nice sear.

Yes expensive but over time cheap. Try and buy them at the end of the season...got mine in Oct list was ?? $600 from HD on sale for ?525. Best money spent on a grill.

Sidebar-has a side burner which was used once for a marinade. Worthless.

all you need is this for smoking and grilling, and the electric starter makes it easy as hell. It'll do it all for you

What make and model is it?

Impossible to tell :hmmm:

thats a Weber Smokey Mountain. It comes in 18" and 22.5". I have the bigger one but either will do. I've seen guys modify them with a gas insert and a propane line as well, but that sort of defeats the purpose.

Weber ep330. Thing is boss. I wish the side burner was optional in the Genesis line. The only thing I use it for is lighting my charcoal chimney thingy.

Thank you kindly sir

Anyone own one of these propane grills?
 

I realize for $200 I should not expect the world but to pay $1000-1200 for the same sized Weber doesn't do it for me.

My community will not allow a charcoal grill on the decks

Any comments or reviews or past experience with this brand would be greatly appreciated. :thumb:

It will last a year or two. Maybe three if you're diligent about replacing the parts that rust out.

So I should absolutely get a cover or will that do little?

Yeah, one of my wife's vendors gave us a CharBroil gas grill as a wedding gift (lol), it's on year 3 and I'm looking to replace it. They rust fast, so I'd get a decent cover for it. Plus, I'd see if they'd sell you that display. You need Tyler Wilson size hands to put that together. I walked away from that assembly all gnarled up and angry.

Thanks-I may just do that if I buy it. They had 4 put together already on display

1.) Buy a lower level Weber.

2.) Tell your community to **** off.


Those need not be separate options.

My wife bought me this for my birthday. It is awesome. The push button start works excellent.

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Buy one, but it won't help much. Mine still rusted badly within a year even with the cover. Going on year two of a covered Weber Spirit and it's not even got a hint of rust.

I have a freind in KC who bought one and he hates it.

I had a Char-Broil once. the 2nd season of grilling, I'm cooking some chicken. I look out my kitchen window and see this black smoke; with sut etc.

I go outside and the control knobs are on fire. LMAO.

bought a weber and it lasted 10yrs until i gave it to my nephew for his new house. I also have a Weber kettle that i bought in 2004 and still use it all the time. only thing I had to replace was the grate last year.

that's the grill i had. love it. had a cover too, and not a spec of rust either in the years I had it.

Ditto as to the weber genesis. I had 2 other "cheap" grills that lasted 2-3 years each. I had covers for them and didn't help much. 8 years ago plopped down $500 at the end of the season for the genesis. I couldn't be happier. Best money I've spent in years. The wife wasn't so pleased at first, but now fully appreciates it as well.

As everyone else has said: nice sear, 600 degrees with a nice northern wind, even heat etc.

I will say that I will finally have to replace the cover:)

If you are looking for a pellet smoker go with Green Mountain. More features and better quality than a Treager.

http://greenmountaingrills.com/

As far as gas grills are concerned you should probably just not.

I have a Weber Genesis Gold that I bought in 2000. The only thing I've replaced are the flavorizer bars and the cooking grates (they get the most abuse). The burners still work perfectly. Oh, the igniter died a long time ago and I've never replaced it. I just use a torch igniter. I've never known a built-in igniter that's worth a shit on any brand. I don't keep mine covered so some of the enamel paint has lost its luster, but hell, it's 14 years old and still grills up a storm.

Edit: My Weber is natural gas. Had to pay to extend a NG line outside. I think it was about $100. Saved that in NG prices vs. Propane tanks several times over.

Shoot, I just run 12-14 coals in a weber chimney with 2 rounds of paper and then toss them on the pile of coals and let it got. At least that has worked great for me the last couple of times. But that table would be nice sometimes.

I have three, but I have one I'd really recommend for what you are wanting.

It's this. The Weber Q200. It's plenty big to cook for 6-8 people, will sear steaks just fine as long as you are using a regular size propane tank, and it's light enough to take in the trunk to picnics, events, etc. You can buy it without a stand as shown in the picture,or get the stand and it simply lifts off the stand to make it portable, in which case, it'll also burn off of the little green propane canisters, but it doesn't quite qet as hot using those. Having said that , I used it with those small canisters for the first couple of years. I've had mine for 5 years and it's money. Also, it doesn't rust and is a quarter inch thick, so it retains heat.

Here it is on the stand with a regular propane tank (fits nicely under it). You can pick one up for under $200

shit, that aint bad. good option for those you usually use charcoal but would want to fire up a gas grill every now and again. :hmmm:

if you call Weber and tell them they will send you a new igniter (or just about any part) free. Even out of warranty.

So over the course of a month I could have 20 different parts sent to different addresses for free and build a new grill?

definitely just spring for a low end Weber. I never used to beleive the hype, then I got a brand new Spriit for $140 at Home Depot on clearance and have loved it. It is so much different than grilling on a POS cheapie. You can actually control it, and it DOES make a difference.

I have heard of people essentially replacing the entire guts for free.

:hmmm:

If I thought that would work for grates and flavor bars, I'd be on the phone right now. I have had the main gas line go twice, though, so I'll keep it in mind for the next time that happens.

Really? Dialing Weber right now.

MMMmmm. I just got a gas grill, Weber Spirit. Debated moving away from charcoal for months, and spent way more than I intended, but all the advice I got from grillers said to suck it up and get the quality. I did and have had zero buyers remorse. I grill every day now. No more heating up the house with cooking heat in summer, and everything is delicious.

Favorite unplanned grill success was grilling a wolferman's english muffin and red peppers and jalapenos. Just stuff I had around, but it was so simple and delicious. brushed a little garlic olive oil on the muffin then piled on the grilled peppers for a perfect lunch. Would never have fired up coals for such a thing.

I bought a used Weber off craigslist. I loaded it in the back of the truck, drove it home and noticed one of the burner dials blew away coming home. Called Weber up and they mailed me a new one free of charge.

That is awesome. I found an old Zenith tv on some train tracks once. one of the old ones that look like furniture. It was missing knobs and had a broken back plate, but seemed to work. I called Zenith and they sent me a complete set of knobs and a new back plate. This was over twenty years ago, but it worked well for over two years and then I left it when I moved and the next tenant used it for a while too.

I love my cheap gas grill. 3 burner plus the side. never used the side. I use one on low and put the ribs on the non fire side for 5 or so hours. All I get are rave reviews.

I'm putting in a new pavestone deck soon. Will but the high end grill then. But I've had a charbroil for years with a good cover and never had a problem with it. I know it's the lower end of the spectrum, but if you take care of them, they'll last 10 years.

if the flavorizer bars are less than 5 years old they will replace if rusted through.

Anyone have any experience with Mission Grills from OSH? Just picked one of these up for father's day.

I'm not a big time griller, but have vowed to become one starting with the new grill.

http://www.osh.com/OSH-Gallery/Galle...rner/p/7029358

I got a Big Green Egg two years ago and if I had known how great it was would have bought one 20 years ago. Nothing like it.

http://m.rakuten.com/product/2244341...961&adid=29963

I just got the chargriller dual gas and charcoal with the side smoker box, I'm pretty happy so far.

Next time, and I don't know why, I think I may try one of these infrared grills... Just seem interesting and will be a fun challenge to learn to grill on.

http://thenorthsidegrill.com/how-doe...ed-grill-work/

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Do it, but don't think you're done. I have seven grills/smokers, and need every one of them... So add this puppy to the list just to prep the wife that she's NOT in charge and if she wants the time off (from cooking and afternoon sex), you get grills!

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This is on my to-do list... Excellent choice sir..

I bought one of these last year and adore it. I grill way more now that I get charcoal flavor and heat and don't have to deal with chimney starters.

I began using the weber firestarter cubes last year. They make the chimney starter even cleaner and easier.

how does the electric start work?

Lots of good advice already, but I'll double-click on a few points.

1. Buy a good grill. I went with a weber genesis.
2. If you wait til the end of the summer, even into the winter, those left over grills get seriously marked down.
3. Natural gas is really nice. Cheaper fuel. No stockpiling of LP tanks and getting them filled. Nobody asks to borrow the grill. They don't sell well, so there are always a few left in
October, just waiting for you to purchase at deep discount.

Thanks to everyone for all the great advice.

Due to the fact that I don't even have a grill now, I'm not in a position to wait until October for the discounts so i got to suck it up and pay top dollar unless a Father's Day Sale this weekend.

I'm convinced from everyone here and some other reviews online that I'm going to get what I pay for with a Charbroiler but the only unanswered question seems to be how they cook as opposed to how they last. Everyone says they have a short life but no one mentioned their cooking ability.

Any comments on the Charbroiler Grill cooking quality?

It uses the little 1-liter propane tanks. You put your charcoal in the baskets and light the propane igniter for about five minutes to jump start the coals, then turn the propane off. No dumping coals at all, no need to keep newspapers around, etc. and it uses very little propane; wife and I grill regularly and we're only on our second bottle.

I am on my 2nd treager. My original 12 year old one is still working fine. I haven't had the problems others have apparently. It gets plenty hot to sear steaks, although admittedly not over 400 in the winter. I have replaced a thermostat, but it was 6 years old when I did it. I love the food that it produces. They are expensive though.

look for a used Weber on Craigslist and refurb it with warranty parts and new grates. I bet there will be some pop up after Dad's get new grilles for Fathers Day.

Wow, I never thought of that. Cool...

After nearly a month and a half of analyzing and researching nearly every damn imaginable grill, I decided to buy the Broil King Baron in Black/Stainless Steel/Black Chrome 4-Burner (40,000-BTU) Liquid Propane Gas Grill with Side Burner.

At first I was going to do a budget conscious Char Broil but all the reviews said the grill falls apart so fast and sucks so I changed my mind. Then I looked at the Stok at Target and while real nice looking and tons of neat inserts, once again the quality was lacking so it was a no. Then I looked at the mack daddy of all grills the Weber. While there is no doubt Weber is one of the best out there with quality, features, and durability, it now appears that some of their lower entry grills are having a lot of parts made in China and cutting corners. I would only pay $500 so that cut out a lot of the Webers.

After reading thousands of reviews and stories, the Broil King fit my bill perfectly. Putting together this weekend.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_503210-65173...uctId=50078139

Why did I select the Broil King?

1. Made in the US
2. Cast Iron Grates
3. Tremendous Reviews
4. Cooks Great-so says everyone
5. Nice Look
6. Heavy Duty Parts
7. Good Price
8. Collapsable Side Panels
9. Side Burner

Thanks everyone for all the advice and I'll let you know how the first few grilling sessions go. :thumb:

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I have a Weber Genesis 3000 that sits under cover on my screened in porch. It also has a nice grill cover, so it never gets wet or weathered. It's in terrific condition, and I've had it for about six years now. Last week I replaced the original porcelain grates and flavorizer bars with all stainless steel. I bought the replacements from a company outside St. Louis that makes after market parts for grills. The stainless was a heavier gage than the Weber OEM stuff, and half the price. Now all the insides of the grill are stainless, it heats up fast, and cooks great. After you use this grill for a few years, you'll probably get hooked on grilling, and will want a Weber. I'm going out to look at a Weber Smokey Mountain smoker later today, perhaps as a BD present to myself.

Absolutely love mine.

Does this company outside of St. Louis have a website where parts can be ordered from? I need to replace my grates and flavorizer bars. If I can save a little money and get heavier gauge material, that would be great.

Yep, website:
http://riversedge-products.com/Stain...B0034BC0MI.htm

I bought a used WSM today for $170. Guy wanted $200 for it, but it was dirty and had some rust and a few chips in the outer porcelain. He told me it was an original 1980 model, the first year Weber built the WSM. I took it home, put some Brillo Pads, WD-40 and elbow grease on it, and it cleaned up pretty nice. For the most part, as long as the seals are good, it should work fine. Weber's seem to be tooled well where the parts fit together perfectly. Last year I bought a starter smoker, a Red Stone, from Tractor Supply, paid about $80 for it. It leaks smoke like crazy, but works OK. Doesn't have a big capacity. This WSM is the 18.5" model (the middle size of three sizes.) A new one at Lowe's is $300, so getting this one at almost half price hopefully will be a good transaction. Pictures of the WSM and my Weber Gas Grill (which I absolutely LOVE) are attached:

Thanks. I owe you one.

I say you made a good deal. Those are outstanding I love mine.

Good luck with that "new" smoker grill GB. You are a little more advanced in the grilling dept than I. :D

Butane is a bastard gas.

I'm looking at choosing between a Spirit SP 310 and a Genesis 310. The Spirit SP has stainless steel cooking grates vs. the porcelain enameled cast iron grates on the Genesis 310. The Genesis is built sturdier and looks a bit nicer, but doesn't seemed to be a big difference. Difference in cost between the 2 is $150. Interested in anyone with experience either way. I'm sold on Weber, now just have to choose which one.

I don't have any experience with the Spirit, but I've had a Genesis for four years, and it works as well as the day I bought it. It's built well, cooks evenly, and I've never regretted the purchase.

As the saying goes, it just works!