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ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2014 06:56 PM

Chiefs guard Geoff Schwartz will not return to KC
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I’ve said this a few times already but it bears repeating on eve of FA: sources confirm <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a> guard Geoff Schwartz will not return to KC.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/443188257514209280">March 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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KC Hawks 03-10-2014 06:56 PM

Well...****

TLO 03-10-2014 06:57 PM

Here comes an offensive lineman in the first round.

Hammock Parties 03-10-2014 06:57 PM

This sucks. He's awesome on twitter.

Discuss Thrower 03-10-2014 06:57 PM

All aboard the sub-.500 train.

-King- 03-10-2014 06:58 PM

Oh well. Can't blame them for not being willing to pay starter money to a guy that's only started 26 games in 6 years with most of them being injury fill-ins.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2014 06:58 PM

http://media.heavy.com/media/2012/09/chuckpunch1.gif

-King- 03-10-2014 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10478134)
All aboard the sub-.500 train.

Yes, because the difference between a winning season and a losing season is a journeyman backup OL.

KCrockaholic 03-10-2014 07:00 PM

Dammit.

saphojunkie 03-10-2014 07:02 PM

Less important than McCluster.

OldSchool 03-10-2014 07:02 PM

http://www.thefinsiders.com/wp-conte...ack-Martin.jpg

Welcome your 1st round pick.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-10-2014 07:07 PM

People named Geoff take stun guns to petting zoos to **** with the children.

Sorter 03-10-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 10478164)
People named Geoff take stun guns to petting zoos to **** with the children.

I've ****ing seen it happen.



They're usually larger males, too.

kcchiefsus 03-10-2014 07:09 PM

Another shitty OL in the first round coming up. Meanwhile, our secondary and wide receivers will still suck.

Fritz88 03-10-2014 07:09 PM

No.

booger 03-10-2014 07:13 PM

Austin Howard or Michael oher for RG please

Mr. Arrowhead 03-10-2014 07:13 PM

I understand Dex and Albert being let go, but I dont understand this move

kcchiefsus 03-10-2014 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger (Post 10478183)
Austin Howard or Michael oher for RG please

They'll be too expensive.

booger 03-10-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 10478195)
They'll be too expensive.

Howard is a RT or G with so he won't get LT money and Oher is coming off a poor season. But there always is a chance they still get good money. Lots of teams with cap room to spare. Reid drafted Howard but the Jets are pushing hard to resign him

kc79 03-10-2014 07:27 PM

What's the name of the OG Tampa released? Would he be a good fit for Andy's system?

tecumseh 03-10-2014 07:30 PM

Oh well, it was a long shot Chiefs would pay Shwartz. Probably won't grab anybody in the first wave of FA. After the draft when the money settles down. Still, go'head git one o' them Oline boys first round. THEN find some good , cheap backups.

Titty Meat 03-10-2014 07:31 PM

Wether O City wants to admit it this team is on the cusp of rebuilding. 6-10 next year.

RealSNR 03-10-2014 07:33 PM

Schwartz totally Jewed us.

O.city 03-10-2014 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478253)
Wether O City wants to admit it this team is on the cusp of rebuilding. 6-10 next year.

Yep, Geoff Schwartz walking is gonna cripple the franchise.

Mugsy 03-10-2014 07:36 PM

We need a second round pick in a bad way.

SeeingRed 03-10-2014 07:37 PM

I hate to say this but as long as he is genuinely ok mentally what about Richie Incognito he could probably be gotten on a fire sale at this point...and hes pretty good

tecumseh 03-10-2014 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478253)
Wether O City wants to admit it this team is on the cusp of rebuilding. 6-10 next year.

perpetual process this cusp.

Rausch 03-10-2014 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 10478282)
I hate to say this but as long as he is genuinely ok mentally...

He never has been and clearly is not now...

Titty Meat 03-10-2014 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478277)
Yep, Geoff Schwartz walking is gonna cripple the franchise.

Yea letting go of your 3 best o linemen with a fragile QB is a brilliant move. Reid is setting up to draft another o-linemen you know the same strategy that got him FIRED in Philadelphia.

Messier 03-10-2014 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478253)
Wether O City wants to admit it this team is on the cusp of rebuilding. 6-10 next year.

ROFL

What is your problem?

Messier 03-10-2014 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478286)
Yea letting go of your 3 best o linemen with a fragile QB is a brilliant move. Reid is setting up to draft another o-linemen you know the same strategy that got him FIRED in Philadelphia.

How many first round o-line did he draft?

Oh 2.

Rausch 03-10-2014 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478286)
Yea letting go of your 3 best o linemen with a fragile QB is a brilliant move. Reid is setting up to draft another o-linemen you know the same strategy that got him FIRED in Philadelphia.

I thought letting his line go to $#it was what got his QB killed and him fired...

Titty Meat 03-10-2014 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10478292)
How many first round o-line did he draft?

Oh 2.

Where's Danny Watkins at these days?

Chief Roundup 03-10-2014 07:42 PM

This sucks. It is looking more and more likely that we will spend another pick on OL that would have been nice somewhere else.

-King- 03-10-2014 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478286)
Yea letting go of your 3 best o linemen with a fragile QB is a brilliant move. Reid is setting up to draft another o-linemen you know the same strategy that got him FIRED in Philadelphia.

Wut?

Wtf are you talking about?
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Messier 03-10-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478296)
Where's Danny Watkins at these days?

Yep bad pick. He was one of the two.

O.city 03-10-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478286)
Yea letting go of your 3 best o linemen with a fragile QB is a brilliant move. Reid is setting up to draft another o-linemen you know the same strategy that got him FIRED in Philadelphia.

We have no clue if they're gonna bring in another guard via FA, the draft etc. It's March.

Again, no clue who might improve in year 2 in a system, who might regress, or what will happen.

It's pointless to start the whole "6-10" talk in March.

saphojunkie 03-10-2014 07:44 PM

HE STARTED SEVEN GAMES.

Messier 03-10-2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478304)
We have no clue if they're gonna bring in another guard via FA, the draft etc. It's March.

Again, no clue who might improve in year 2 in a system, who might regress, or what will happen.

It's pointless to start the whole "6-10" talk in March.

This is CP. Any time is a good time for unwarranted panic.

Titty Meat 03-10-2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10478301)
Yep bad pick. He was one of the two.

3 counting Fisher who's a back up right tackle taken #1 overall. I googled his drafts though most were d linemen and most of them were draft busts.

Titty Meat 03-10-2014 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10478309)
HE STARTED SEVEN GAMES.

How did the offense play those 7 games?

Mugsy 03-10-2014 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478296)
Where's Danny Watkins at these days?

He's a Dolphin.

Messier 03-10-2014 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478317)
3 counting Fisher who's a back up right tackle taken #1 overall. I googled his drafts though most were d linemen and most of them were draft busts.

Okay.

You said all those EAGLES picks, but whatever.

Rausch 03-10-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10478309)
HE STARTED SEVEN GAMES.

But he's LEAVING!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--DzufoYqBH...00-0212-de.jpg

Messier 03-10-2014 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478317)
3 counting Fisher who's a back up right tackle taken #1 overall. I googled his drafts though most were d linemen and most of them were draft busts.

So if Reid sucks, then who cares who's on the team, they're gonna fail.

Bad coach=bad team.

Titty Meat 03-10-2014 07:58 PM

I never said Reid sucks but his history of 1st round picks does.

O.city 03-10-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478377)
I never said Reid sucks but his history of 1st round picks does.

Good thing Dorsey is running the draft, cause Reid's track record isn't very good.

ThaVirus 03-10-2014 08:00 PM

You gotta love Chiefs fans.

Albert and McCluster leaving? Good riddance! We should look into cutting Flowers and Bowe while we're at it.

But FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT LET GEOFF SCHWARTZ GET AWAY.

BryanBusby 03-10-2014 08:01 PM

Well one player it was known this was going to happen when the #1 overall pick was made a year ago and the other player is below mediocre.

Titty Meat 03-10-2014 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478382)
Good thing Dorsey is running the draft, cause Reid's track record isn't very good.

Green Bays track record of drafting o linemen in the 1st round is equally as bad. If you think Reid is just a figurehead well then youre a dumbass.

morphius 03-10-2014 08:06 PM

It is a little disconcerting how many of our FA's are leaving. Just figured if they loved it some might stay. (I know, it is about the money, but still)

Messier 03-10-2014 08:08 PM

Letting them go must mean they like Kush.

DTLB58 03-10-2014 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10478280)
We need a second round pick in a bad way.

We all said that last season and it will get magnified 10000% draft weekend. Don't look for it.

Rausch 03-10-2014 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10478427)
Letting them go must mean they like Kush.

Because he plays LT or G?...

Messier 03-10-2014 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478430)
Because he plays LT or G?...

No but Hudson can and did.

TEX 03-10-2014 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10478124)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I’ve said this a few times already but it bears repeating on eve of FA: sources confirm <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a> guard Geoff Schwartz will not return to KC.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/443188257514209280">March 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This one is foolish on the Chiefs part.

Red Dawg 03-10-2014 08:12 PM

We better sign a guard. If we take one with the 23RD I WILL BE PISSSESSSSSSSD!

TEX 03-10-2014 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 10478420)
It is a little disconcerting how many of our FA's are leaving. Just figured if they loved it some might stay. (I know, it is about the money, but still)

It ALWAYS about the $$$. It looks like it could be like all Chiefs seasons after making the playoffs...

Rausch 03-10-2014 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10478434)
No but Hudson can and did.

Not well and not better than C.

I loved the Hudson pick and I like his talent but he's best suited at C.

He's perfect at C and undersized for a NFL G. It's not just Pioli that thought this and moved him - it's a universal outlook on him as a prospect. That said an athletic guy like him could play well in a ZB scheme but he's not the prototypical G size.

Messier 03-10-2014 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478462)
Not well and not better than C.

I loved the Hudson pick and I like his talent but he's best suited at C.

He's perfect at C and undersized for a NFL G. It's not just Pioli that thought this and moved him - it's a universal outlook on him as a prospect. That said an athletic guy like him could play well in a ZB scheme but he's not the prototypical G size.

Just spitballin'

I just don't think they'll now spend the rest of the offseason replacing what they just lost. They'll need someone, FA wise, but really hoping their plan isn't 1st round to chase what they lost.

Rausch 03-10-2014 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10478481)
Just spitballin'

I just don't think they'll now spend the rest of the offseason replacing what they just lost.

I ****ing hope they do...

Messier 03-10-2014 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478483)
I ****ing hope they do...

No. Hope they think they have answers on the team, or can replace the losses without too much problem, but not creating a need you didn't have.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10478427)
Letting them go must mean they like Kush.

Or they're targeting linemen in the draft.

O.city 03-10-2014 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10478404)
Green Bays track record of drafting o linemen in the 1st round is equally as bad. If you think Reid is just a figurehead well then youre a dumbass.

Figurehead? I'd imagine he has some say in each pick, but he's not running the draft.

ILChief 03-10-2014 08:30 PM

Rishaw Johnson FTW

Messier 03-10-2014 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10478514)
Or they're targeting linemen in the draft.

Could be. I doubt it.

O.city 03-10-2014 08:36 PM

You mean you hope not?

Strongside 03-10-2014 08:37 PM

Bitch, that's a mistake.

Messier 03-10-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478547)
You mean you hope not?

That too.

Rausch 03-10-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10478512)
No. Hope they think they have answers on the team, or can replace the losses without too much problem, but not creating a need you didn't have.

We only have 1 G on the roster. From FA or the draft we'll have to add a number of bodies there.

I think we could be ok at LT. Not great, but passable...

booger 03-10-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10478519)
Rishaw Johnson FTW

He got some looks playing G in the goaline when they shifted Schwartz to an extra TD. Then of course the SD game. He got some good snaps in and is a good looking prospect. Hope he develops at least for depth. Anything above that will be a bonus

Messier 03-10-2014 08:39 PM

I don't care. I want the player to be good. That's what I want.

Chief Roundup 03-10-2014 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10478387)
You gotta love Chiefs fans.

Albert and McCluster leaving? Good riddance! We should look into cutting Flowers and Bowe while we're at it.

But FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT LET GEOFF SCHWARTZ GET AWAY.

Albert wanted 10 mil a year. We should not have overpaid and didn't, therefore good move. McCluster is going to get between 4 and 5 mil a year. We should not overpay for McCluster either. Good Move.

Schwartz, not saying he can't be replaced, isn't just a Guard. He was also the backup RT. That swing ability is important when our only OTs are Fisher and Stephenson. Now with Asamoah, and Schwartz gone we need a starter and depth at guard. Albert leaving means we have a need for depth at LT no matter who starts Stephenson or Fisher.

Eleazar 03-10-2014 08:40 PM

That sucks. I really like him.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10478547)
You mean you hope not?

Exactly.

Both Dorsey and Reid have been involved in drafting many, MANY offensive linemen over the years. That and defensive linemen.

We probably should get used to it.

Rausch 03-10-2014 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger (Post 10478559)
He got some looks playing G in the goaline when they shifted Schwartz to an extra TD. Then of course the SD game. He got some good snaps in and is a good looking prospect. Hope he develops at least for depth. Anything above that will be a bonus

Looks like solid depth - do not want starting...

booger 03-10-2014 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478558)
We only have 1 G on the roster. From FA or the draft we'll have to add a number of bodies there.

I think we could be ok at LT. Not great, but passable...

not disagreeing at all just pointing out they haven't updated the roster at kcchiefs.com except for maybe Dressler.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/roster?d-44...id.position_Id

that link has everyone they have under contract including the future fa's they signed....the ps and street fa's. It doesn't have UFA, RFA, or ERFA's listed though. Just was looking today to see who all they added as scrubs and figured i would pass it along. Seems up to date

booger 03-10-2014 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10478569)
Looks like solid depth - do not want starting...

Yep. Not unless he wins it in competition with a low key FA signing like Schwartz was last year. Or whoever he would compete with for that matter. He was at Ole Miss, got in trouble and transfered to where Kush went to school. Then undrafted. Long arms and big bear paws so he's a prospect but hasn't proved anything worthy of starting yet

Iowanian 03-10-2014 08:52 PM

I thought he did an admirable job when put in games last year...........but there is a damn reason he's not sticking with teams he is on. The Chiefs aren't the first team that has let him move on.

O.city 03-10-2014 09:20 PM

Asamoah to falcons for 4.5 mil per year or talent that's what twitter says


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