Chiefs could be stacked for next offseason.
 

I'm anticipating several things here:

1. The Chiefs are only shopping in the bargain bin this offseason, and thus should bring in 4 compensatory picks next year (my guess: a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 5th).

2. The Chiefs could open up cap space for next year by releasing Tamba Hali, Brandon Flowers, and Sean Smith.

If the Chiefs do bring in 4 compensatory picks, they will have 11 picks, 9 picks in the first 5 rounds in 2015.

If the Chiefs do cut those players, which I reckon they might, that would open up about $24m in cap space. On top of the $24m they're already projected to have (pre-Alex Smith and pre-Justin Houston extensions which will take up cap space, and pre-Eric Berry extension, which will free some up), that'll leave the Chiefs with $48m in cap space in 2015.

That should be enough to account for extensions for Smith and Houston, and still have over $30m left over for tons of free agent signings if they so desire, and tons of draft picks to either (a.) trade for talent, or (b.) bring in great talent in the Draft.

Just some food for thought.

They aren't ****ing cutting Sean Smith......

Why not? Saves $5.5m, only costs us $2m.

Leaves us with absolutely dick at the CB position.

In other words, what we have now.

cool, besides the fact that there is still a ****ing entire 2014 season to play.

I mean if this was like the Madden video game where we could sim through it right to 2015, that would be neat. But it isn't, so we still have to watch this team play an entire new season before you get to your "grass is greener/light at the end of the tunnel/Wizard of Oz yellow brick road" dream scenario.

We have no way of knowing that at this point. Marcus Cooper could show another year of development, and the Chiefs could draft a CB in the early rounds of either the 2014 or 2015 draft. Not the mention the Chiefs will have the $ and draft pick ammo to sign a blue chipper off the market or trade for one.

Are you familiar with the dynamics of rebuilding a roster? Takes several years.

Doesn't mean that 2014 can't be useful, entertaining, or relatively successful.

Relatively Successful- 2014 Chiefs Motto

It certainly does when you're not doing it right.

And that argument has proven to be reeruned.

Chiefs......Waiting for next year since 1971.

Anything that's not a Super Bowl appearance is a disasterous, useless failure - mcaj22's motto.

Yes another rebuild. Chiefs might win a playoff game in 2019.

yea a ****ing 8 year plan post-Herm apparently by some of these threads on CP.

oh don't worry we'll be cool for 2015-2016.

When you've waited 20 years to see ONE playoff win, it isn't unreasonable.

My rebuttal is T.Y. Hilton.

It certainly does period.

What team went from the cellar to Annual Contender in NFL history?

You mean the guy that was shut down before Flowers went out with injury?

No FS help and no pass rush = Shitty looking CBs.

Have fun boxing that strawman.

I like your chances, between the two of us.

It's unreasonable.

The visceral frustration is understandable, but it's fogging the logic of mcaj22 and those who agree with him.

The Dallas Cowboys, off the top of my head.

yes how dare I wish my favorite team, who I thought went all in last season by trading two draft picks for a 30 year old QB to lead us to a winning season and almost a playoff victory try and get over the hump for a playoff win/Super Bowl the following year.

Because they aren't paying a bunch of guys 10+ million or anything to NOT WIN.

Dude, we're supposed to get excited about the future EVERY YEAR at this time.

You can't keep dangling a carrot and never let them take a bite.

**** it then, why even play this season if next season is the plan??? Because THIS season should also be part of the plan. I would rather have have sucked total ass and not traded two #2's away if the Chiefs were gonna take a step backwards THIS upcoming season. This SHIT GETS OLD!

Why....when the fans have shown that they'll instantly give you your 2nd year as a "down year" and "rebuilding year"?

Not exactly a rule you're building there. Sounds like an exception.

Yep.

I think the Chiefs made an "all in" investment with mostly Pioli/Herm guys because they had the resources to do so last year.

It looked pretty good to me. 12 wins (I'm counting San Diego Week 17) and a damn good playoff performance that sadly crumbled under the weight of 5 key injuries.

It didn't work out. So now the Chiefs are going back to the drawing board for a year, stocking up for 2015/2016 and make their play then.

The Colts were already well on their way back when Flowers left. He wasn't the difference maker back there - the only secondary player who had a decent game was Abdullah.

That was the one that came to mind in 5 seconds.

If I care about this more, I'd find more examples.

But I don't.

With Alex Smith at QB.

Brilliant.

That ain't what I'm doing.

Honestly, ChiefsPlanet is predictably flooding itself with grown men with computers acting like pouting teenagers.

Because with $9m in cap space and 5 key free agents departing, we were supposed to close the gap on a team with Peyton Manning and more than twice our cap space.

Right. And I'm the one in dream land.

:wtf:

This season is "part of the plan."

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

We expected them to at least not WIDEN the gap. Which of course, they did.

God, let's hope you don't. Because that was a pretty sorry attempt to rebut my point.

Could have been Geno Smith.

What will be funny to me is when we win around 6 to 7 games next season and miss the playoffs. And then the offseason comes around and Dorsey starts cutting fan favorites like Brandon Flowers and Tamba Hali. Guarantee you that the people that are screaming "calm down" right now will be the ones flipping out and screaming that Dorsey has no clue what the **** he's doing.

Doing nothing and creating holes on the roster doesn't count.

Or restructure flowers for lower cap numbers if he's still got some game for the slot CB role, which I think he will. Trade cash for cap.

Hali will be gone, no cap hit and he's fading fast.

I'd trade Shaun Smith for Revis right now straight up if they could work some cap magic. Dump Alex Smith cap$ in future years with a lot of expected breathing room, maybe you could sway revis off his 'no restructure to make trade happen' if you sweeten him with guaranteed $ in the 1st couple years.

You expected them to keep pace with the Broncos who (a.) have more cap space, and (b.) have far less than five key veterans departing, and (c.) a Hall of Fame quarterback?

Or Carr. Or Manziel. Or. Or. Or.

If you're building through the draft, build through the draft.

Don't give away multiple high picks for a 30-year old QB.

Zach Martin. Part of the plan.

That will be the case exactly.

I expected them to make an attempt.

Bookmark the thread.

Bring it back in a year-plus. We'll see how far gone my mental makeup is by then.

It's not just doing that, but interpret it how you will.

Not you. You actually get what needs to be done next season. I'm talking about the people who don't. The people who will be screaming that Dorsey and Reid and creating holes that don't need to be created.

Very fair point on Flowers. The Sean Smith for Revis bullshit is crazy, wtf? Who on earth would do that shit?

Yep. Cant do both without some sort of major compromise that is a setback.

Yup, I started watching in 1973 still listening to all these 'just wait' excuses.

Can't wait! :evil:

I think you've missed my point.

Because in no way in hell are the Chiefs going to make a 2013 push with two players that haven't come out for the pros until the following year.

We might be miscommunicating here.

Because Smith was better than Flowers in this scheme at a much lower price?

Sure is doing exactly that. One step forward, two steps back...Again.

No shit

Yeah?

And I'm guessing you did somewhere around zero offseason simulations of your own.

Because I did a few, and while I am just some asshole with a keyboard, I couldn't finangle anything useful for this offseason.

What the **** are they to do? Christ. We are ****ed for the FA period this year, which has been discussed ad nauseam. And yet, some of you guys are still insufferable.

them or us? they are gonna get nothing by end of day. we cant unless revis will play, which he likely wont.

of course its bullshit, it's march and day 2 of NFL free agency, everything is bullshit.

yet somehow a team with $20M committed to peyton manning has just committed big $ to rebuild they secondary. a team we have to play 2x again this season.

Yep. And that is a perfectly reasonable.

Get a real FS and the corners look 10 times better.

They aren't going to trade Revis for a CB that doesn't fit their system. Especially after they just signed Verner to a multi-year deal.

I can't imagine Reid, Dorsey, and Hunt all sitting around after the Colts loss coming to the conclusion to just overlook 2014 in hopes that 2015 will be better for them financially. As a paying customer that's just flat unacceptable and inexcusable if that scenario turned out to be true.

Please, explain to me what moves you would have made.

Indeed. Really the only name we need to know heading into the draft.

How the **** is it this easy for us to see? But other people it's like doing calculus when you're 2 years old.

I don't know if they're overlooking 2014. I don't think they could realistically have geared up for a Super Bowl run in 2014, either.

LMAO

This thread reeks of Cleveland Browns....no thank you

We're not making the playoffs next season.

It seems like its ALWAYS the case after a playoff one and done scenario so whats so hard to believe?

ROFL

Year 1: Make playoffs but lose in the first round. Build hope and win those fans back!
Year 2: Rebuilding year. End with 6-7 wins. It's ok....we had a tough schedule.
Year 3: 7 to 8 wins. We're almost there!
Year 4: The wheels come off. 2-4 wins. Hey....at least we have a top 5 pick!

2015 season?

Edit: Yeah.. That's kind of how I forsee everything falling into place.

Its hard to do from my phone, but Id have retained Schwartz for starters...

Year 5: Chiefs get a new front office, trade for a backup QB.

That'll close the gap on Peyton Manning! Way to go!

Rinse and repeat.

2 things.

1 - What is the quality of the 2015 draft class? Decent? Shitty?

2 - Who are the 2015 FA's?