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Dante84 04-21-2014 01:08 PM

Chiefs’ Eric Fisher had shoulder, hernia surgeries
 
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The first overall pick in last year’s NFL draft is recovering from two different offseason surgeries.

Chiefs offensive tackle Eric Fisher had a procedure on his shoulder and a procedure to repair a hernia, coach Andy Reid confirmed today at his press conference at the start of Kansas City’s offseason program.

Fisher started 13 games as a rookie but was disappointing as the Chiefs’ right tackle. Nonetheless, Reid has said he expects Fisher to be the starting left tackle this year, replacing the departed Branden Albert.

If Fisher is healthy and looks as good as the Chiefs thought he would be when they drafted him last year, the Chiefs have their franchise left tackle in place for years to come. If Fisher continues to struggle, questions will be raised about whether the Chiefs made a mistake when they made him the top pick in the draft.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nia-surgeries/

BossChief 04-21-2014 01:10 PM

Q

dirk digler 04-21-2014 01:10 PM

Now instead of using this off season to bulk up and improve his game he is going to be recovering from 2 surgeries.

Poor Alex.

Snapplez 04-21-2014 01:12 PM

Brokedick

Dante84 04-21-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10576063)
Q

Dicks: Eat them.

This deserves its own thread.

RealSNR 04-21-2014 01:12 PM

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If Fisher is healthy and looks as good as the Chiefs thought he would be when they drafted him last year, the Chiefs have their franchise left tackle in place for years to come. If Fisher continues to struggle, questions will be raised about whether the Chiefs made a mistake when they made him the top pick in the draft.
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3898408960/h005CDD48/

saphojunkie 04-21-2014 01:13 PM

I really wish there was an ignore feature where I would never see some jackwad who posts "Q."

****ing most reeruned shit on this whole board.

Easy 6 04-21-2014 01:13 PM

Well lets just hope he finally has his tampon inserted correctly and can now focus on some football.

BossChief 04-21-2014 01:14 PM

I just hope we didn't draft Robert Gallery 2.

BossChief 04-21-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10576078)
I really wish there was an ignore feature where I would never see some jackwad who posts "Q."

****ing most reeruned shit on this whole board.

Q

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 04-21-2014 01:16 PM

**** this loser.

SeeingRed 04-21-2014 01:16 PM

He played through injuries last year. Everybody is on him but the kid needed surguries and played anyway. Hopefully now he will be better this year. I knew about the shoulder, not the hernia. Could explain alot actually.

Rausch 04-21-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10576089)
**** this loser.

Q...

007 04-21-2014 01:18 PM

BUST And I was actually OK with drafting his brokedick ass too. JFC this guy is all kinds of injury prone.

Deberg_1990 04-21-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10576083)
I just hope we didn't draft Robert Gallery 2.

He was successful at Guard!

TribalElder 04-21-2014 01:22 PM

Sheldon Richardson

Jimmya 04-21-2014 01:23 PM

Sadly I believe he will end up a bust, but as a fan I hope he becomes a bad ass.

Steron 04-21-2014 01:47 PM

Bust(ed)

Fish 04-21-2014 01:50 PM

RIP #11.

SeeingRed 04-21-2014 01:56 PM

Lets see what hew can do now after being healthy

In58men 04-21-2014 02:02 PM

Bust, didn't like his sorry ass from the beginning. Garbage player.

Jimmya 04-21-2014 02:35 PM

It like really messes with my head when I think that KC actually had the number 1 pick and this is what we got . :(

Big Poppa Payne 04-21-2014 02:36 PM

What kind of procedure did he have on his shoulder? If it was a labrum or rotator cuff I doubt he'll be 100% when the season starts. He definitely won't be any more muscular then he was last season.

TEX 04-21-2014 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 10576092)
He played through injuries last year. Everybody is on him but the kid needed surguries and played anyway. Hopefully now he will be better this year. I knew about the shoulder, not the hernia. Could explain alot actually.

Exactly. Lets see how he does now that he's healthy and playing his natural position. All those dogging the guy couldn't have played through any of it.

Easy 6 04-21-2014 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10576227)
What kind of procedure did he have on his shoulder? If it was a labrum or rotator cuff I doubt he'll be 100% when the season starts. He definitely won't be any more muscular then he was last season.

That's what I'm thinking, how is he going to lift after a shoulder op?

Steron 04-21-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10576233)
Exactly. Lets see how he does now that he's healthy and playing his natural position. All those dogging the guy couldn't have played through any of it.

I'm not an elite alathlete either. With those types of surgeries, the chances of him being able to bulk up and fill out his frame are slim to none. As others have said, poor Alex.....

TribalElder 04-21-2014 02:48 PM

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chiefzilla1501 04-21-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10576238)
I'm not an elite alathlete either. With those types of surgeries, the chances of him being able to bulk up and fill out his frame are slim to none. As others have said, poor Alex.....

But it also means if his shoulder was stinging all year long, then just being healthy will make him stronger. That and him transitioning to a position where agility is more important than strength. A few people have commented that Fisher often looked like he was compensating for his shoulder. When you use bad technique, that's when groin injuries can happen.

I'm worried about if the kid just can't stay healthy. And an offseason of conditioning would have been nice. But it's silly to think last year was representative of his ceiling if he was playing hurt. I'm sure the doctors wouldn't recommend surgery for a phantom injury.

teedubya 04-21-2014 02:54 PM

Why wouldn't he have had this surgery in, say, February?

Steron 04-21-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10576245)
But it also means if his shoulder was stinging all year long, then just being healthy will make him stronger. That and him transitioning to a position where agility is more important than strength. A few people have commented that Fisher often looked like he was compensating for his shoulder. When you use bad technique, that's when groin injuries can happen.

I'm worried about if the kid just can't stay healthy. And an offseason of conditioning would have been nice. But it's silly to think last year was representative of his ceiling if he was playing hurt. I'm sure the doctors wouldn't recommend surgery for a phantom injury.

Shoulder, groin, hand/wrist injuries last year. I hope he's not Glass Joe.

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 10576248)
Why wouldn't he have had this surgery in, say, February?

Exactly.

Rausch 04-21-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10576227)
What kind of procedure did he have on his shoulder? If it was a labrum or rotator cuff I doubt he'll be 100% when the season starts. He definitely won't be any more muscular then he was last season.

Hell, it could take a year or more to fully get the strength back in that shoulder if that's the case....

Steron 04-21-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10576258)
Hell, it could take a year or more to fully get the strength back in that shoulder if that's the case....

If ever.....

TEX 04-21-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10576245)
But it also means if his shoulder was stinging all year long, then just being healthy will make him stronger. That and him transitioning to a position where agility is more important than strength. A few people have commented that Fisher often looked like he was compensating for his shoulder. When you use bad technique, that's when groin injuries can happen.

I'm worried about if the kid just can't stay healthy. And an offseason of conditioning would have been nice. But it's silly to think last year was representative of his ceiling if he was playing hurt. I'm sure the doctors wouldn't recommend surgery for a phantom injury.

:clap: You nailed it in every way here. The only thing I'm concerned with is his ability to stay healthy.

In58men 04-21-2014 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10576225)
It like really messes with my head when I think that KC actually had the number 1 pick and this is what we got . :(

A ****ing tackle with the first pick ROFL. Only the Chiefs bro.

Big Poppa Payne 04-21-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10576258)
Hell, it could take a year or more to fully get the strength back in that shoulder if that's the case....

Exactly.

GordonGekko 04-21-2014 03:24 PM

Fisher = bust

Now I just hope he turns into a decent O-Lineman, forget All-pro.

Dugghar 04-21-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10576266)
A ****ing tackle with the first pick ROFL. Only the Chiefs bro.

Selective memory?

Pablo 04-21-2014 03:25 PM

He's only going to get better this year. I know because I read it on CP.

ct 04-21-2014 03:25 PM

What kind of injury history did he have in college? Anything?

planetdoc 04-21-2014 03:34 PM

Fisher: Played between 295 and 300 last year.

Mr. Laz 04-21-2014 03:34 PM

I knew it ... he struggled with that shoulder all year long.

They should have shut him down and started Albert and Stephenson

Mr. Laz 04-21-2014 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10576285)
Fisher = bust

Now I just hope he turns into a decent O-Lineman, forget All-pro.

:doh!:

OldSchool 04-21-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10576312)
I knew it ... he struggled with that shoulder all year long.

They should have shut him down and started Albert and Stephenson

Agreed, more than a few plays where it looked like he simply couldn't use his left arm, which is why it was so easy for players to make an inside move against him.

ct 04-21-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10576098)
BUST And I was actually OK with drafting his brokedick ass too. JFC this guy is all kinds of injury prone.

so he misses two games in 4 years in college, struggles in the rookie NFL season with a position switch vs bigger stronger NFL defenders with injuries and he's an injury prone bust?

Mr. Laz 04-21-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10576318)
Agreed, more than a few plays where it looked like he simply couldn't use his left arm, which is why it was so easy for players to make an inside move against him.

yep and why he struggled against power

I hope they didn't make that shoulder a chronic issue.

Pepe Silvia 04-21-2014 04:01 PM

Don't worry Chiefs fans he's going to be a better player on the bench.

BigMeatballDave 04-21-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10576287)
He's only going to get better this year. I know because I read it on CP.

He is only going to get worse this year. I know it because I read it on CP.

BigMeatballDave 04-21-2014 04:06 PM

Hernia surgery is nothing.

A close friend had it just over a year ago, and 6 weeks before he hiked the entire Appalachian Trail.

LoneWolf 04-21-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 10576248)
Why wouldn't he have had this surgery in, say, February?

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Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10576256)
Exactly.

The article said "offseason" surgery. That could mean he had surgery in January for all we know.

Dante84 04-21-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10576399)
Hernia surgery is nothing.

A close friend had it just over a year ago, and 6 weeks before he hiked the entire Appalachian Trail.

Pretty sure its the shoulder everyone's worried about.

RippedmyFlesh 04-21-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 10576092)
He played through injuries last year. Everybody is on him but the kid needed surguries and played anyway. Hopefully now he will be better this year. I knew about the shoulder, not the hernia. Could explain alot actually.

I hope this article shuts up all the " he will put on some pounds of muscle and get stronger this off season"
That is not happening this year folks. To be completely recovered is the goal now so put the he will get stronger this off season to bed true fans.

Easy 6 04-21-2014 04:58 PM

Even if he had the surgery the day after the Indy loss, he still isn't going to have much time to truly start lifting, just being healed enough to even get back in the weight room is going to take a while.

Upon reading the quote that said "he's now put on 5 pounds of good weight" my first thought was "that's all?"... yeah, his training has been severely hampered this offseason.

I think its safe to say we can forget about a big strength difference, he'll have to improve due to natural quickness combined with a better understanding of the game/technique this year.

Feets don't fail him now...

Baby Lee 04-21-2014 05:06 PM

Repaired hernias are usually stronger than uninjured hernias. The Marlex mesh is stronger than the body's wall.

LoneWolf 04-21-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10576496)
Even if he had the surgery the day after the Indy loss, he still isn't going to have much time to truly start lifting, just being healed enough to even get back in the weight room is going to take a while.

Upon reading the quote that said "he's now put on 5 pounds of good weight" my first thought was "that's all?"... yeah, his training has been severely hampered this offseason.

I think its safe to say we can forget about a big strength difference, he'll have to improve due to natural quickness combined with a better understanding of the game/technique this year.

Feets don't fail him now...

So you know what kind of shoulder surgery it was and know the recovery time? If he's already put on 5 pounds of "good" weight, I'd say it is going pretty well.

Hammock Parties 04-21-2014 05:08 PM

already going under the knife like he's 30.

christ, this guy isn't going to last long

Easy 6 04-21-2014 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10576527)
So you know what kind of shoulder surgery it was and know the recovery time? If he's already put on 5 pounds of "good" weight, I'd say it is going pretty well.

Of course I don't know the exact surgery, but any op on a pro athletes shoulder should be considered serious.

If the quote about "5 pounds" is true, I'd be shocked... even if true, he better keep on lifting and slamming those protein shakes.

BossChief 04-21-2014 07:44 PM

He was getting manhandled in camp by almost everyone. Did the guy get hurt before camp?

If he did, they should have just did the surgery early last year and put him on pup IMO.

Coochie liquor 04-21-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ct (Post 10576346)
so he misses two games in 4 years in college, struggles in the rookie NFL season with a position switch vs bigger stronger NFL defenders with injuries and he's an injury prone bust?

This!! Can't believe so many haters expected him to be a stud straight outta college. How many o linemen are pro bowlers tere first year? I'm not an NFL historian but I'd bet the nbera are few and far between. Jesus give the guy a little time. I saw improvement as the season went on. Who knows what the future holds for him but to label him a bust after his rookie season is ridiculous!! Number 1 pick or not.

In58men 04-21-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dugghar (Post 10576286)
Selective memory?

I was saying my thoughts out loud from last season when he was selected.

NWTF 04-21-2014 07:59 PM

Too early to say bust, but I think lowering expectations to salvageable/serviceable is in line with the most likely of outcomes.

It was one of the worst years to have the #1 overall pick. I dont think hed be in the top 5 discussion if he was in this years draft class. Lack of top tier position players last year pushed guys like Fisher up draft boards.

Chiefaholic 04-21-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10576195)
Bust, didn't like his sorry ass from the beginning. Garbage player.

What the **** DO you like about the Chiefs? What's wrong, pookie?Jealous that Claynus gets more attention than you? Nobody says this team has Probowl potential top to bottom, but you take drama queen to a new level.

OldSchool 04-21-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 10577103)
Too early to say bust, but I think lowering expectations to salvageable/serviceable is in line with the most likely of outcomes.

It was one of the worst years to have the #1 overall pick. I dont think hed be in the top 5 discussion if he was in this years draft class. Lack of top tier position players last year pushed guys like Fisher up draft boards.

He'd be the 4th tackle this year behind Robinson, Matthews, and Lewan.

Chiefaholic 04-21-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 10576248)
Why wouldn't he have had this surgery in, say, February?

That's my thought. What could he possibly gain by waiting for the procedure? And which shoulder did he have surgery on? I'd assume it was his right.

OldSchool 04-21-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 10577153)
That's my thought. What could he possibly gain by waiting for the procedure? And which shoulder did he have surgery on? I'd assume it was his right.

It says he's been recovering from surgery, not that he just got it. For all we know, he got the surgeries done right after the season ended.

notorious 04-21-2014 08:24 PM

The hits just keep rolling in.

Chiefaholic 04-21-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10577159)
It says he's been recovering from surgery, not that he just got it. For all we know, he got the surgeries done right after the season ended.

Good to hear since that's the probable case. There's plenty he can do in the weight room to stay in shape and gain muscle mass w/o slowing the progress of his shoulder. I'll be the "true fan" and assume his age will be an asset to a quicker recovery. I still believe the guy will be a stud on the left side.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-21-2014 08:37 PM

Gotta go for the safe pick, even though they don't exist.

SeeingRed 04-21-2014 08:41 PM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...e-c19b3e563297

BigCatDaddy 04-21-2014 08:44 PM

How nice would it be to have Austin right now?

OldSchool 04-21-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10577257)
How nice would it be to have Austin right now?

A midget slot wr who was attrocious whenever anyone got even a single finger on him at #1 overall? ROFL Only on CP.

BigCatDaddy 04-21-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10577338)
A midget slot wr who was attrocious whenever anyone got even a single finger on him at #1 overall? ROFL Only on CP.

As opposed to a broke dick right tackle? I'll take the guy that can change a game. And we sort of need a slot WR/ returner as this time.

I'd take Sheldon or Allen if I'd could pick again, but I said I would have picked Austin over Fisher last year before the draft so that's what I'm basing my comparison on.

O.city 04-21-2014 09:07 PM

I'll take the defensive rookie of the year who plays a spot we now are in need of

BigCatDaddy 04-21-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10577370)
I'll take the defensive rookie of the year who plays a spot we now are in need of

Yep and Keenan Allen would look real nice right now to.

OldSchool 04-21-2014 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10577361)
As opposed to a broke dick right tackle? I'll take the guy that can change a game. And we sort of need a slot WR/ returner as this time.

Change the game? ROFL Yeah, Austin made such a huge impact for the Rams last year that they ended up 4th in their division, again.

His 1 "big game" as a WR came against Indy, in no other game did he go for over 50 yards receiving for the entire season. Closest he got was 47 yards against the Falcons. Game changer. ROFL

O.city 04-21-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10577376)
Yep and Keenan Allen would look real nice right now to.

Sheldon and Poe would rape faces, that's for sure

Mr. Laz 04-21-2014 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10577233)
Gotta go for the safe pick, even though they don't exist.

draft a Quarterback in every round, it's the only way to win!!!

RealSNR 04-21-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10577380)
Change the game? ROFL Yeah, Austin made such a huge impact for the Rams last year that they ended up 4th in their division, again.

His 1 "big game" as a WR came against Indy, in no other game did he go for over 50 yards receiving for the entire season. Closest he got was 47 yards against the Falcons. Game changer. ROFL

I'll take a WR with not very good production over a brokedick MAC conference tackle who can't find his dick from his asshole on the field.

One player just doesn't get the ball in his hands. The other gets his QB sent to the hospital in an ambulance.

Tribal Warfare 04-21-2014 09:39 PM

Lets hope Stephenson will be ready to man Left Tackle if or when Fisher gets injured again.

mcaj22 04-21-2014 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10577454)
Lets hope Stephenson will be ready to man Left Tackle if or when Fisher gets injured again.

does that mean Jeff Linchenfarts plugs in at RT then

double edge sword if Fisher gets hurt. lose-lose no matter what because we have nothing at swing tackle

BigCatDaddy 04-21-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10577380)
Change the game? ROFL Yeah, Austin made such a huge impact for the Rams last year that they ended up 4th in their division, again.

His 1 "big game" as a WR came against Indy, in no other game did he go for over 50 yards receiving for the entire season. Closest he got was 47 yards against the Falcons. Game changer. ROFL

So we just ignore returns? Those yards and TD's don't count? Wr's usually take some time to develop, but I'd love to see Austin in an Andy Reid offense. We could use a guy like Austin right now.

Look. I get it was a weak draft and one which should have required some out of the box thinking but given the current state of the team I'd take Austin this year of Fish for the 2014 Chiefs.


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