Chiefs Are Considering First Round QB (according to NFL network)
 

siting that negotiations with Alex Smith have stalled. :hmmm: thoughts?

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...in-first-round

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hopefully this means we're trying not to give cassel 2.0 a 20 mill a year contract

Why do that when you can get quality talent in the later rounds?









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so the question of if we take a WR or OL with our only pick in the first 2 rounds might be invalid. Ugh...this cant be good :-/

Hooray?

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I don't want to come off as cheering for myself, but our high school chant was M-E-P-O, GO MEPO GO!!! Reminded me of it.

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So why is Smiff not wanting to negotiate? Gonna be a costly pickup if he bolts at the end of his contract

He wants to pick up his last big payday. Considering that his arrival stabilized the position for the Chiefs and completely turned their fortunes around, he obviously has that information going to the negotiating table. Chiefs don't have much cap space to work with, so this could end up as a colossal fail by John Dorsey. Trading 2 second rounders to get him, only to have him leave after his second season would be a castastrophic blow to Dorsey's decisions regarding Alex Smith.


The Chiefs need to prepare for the future at some point, but if Smith dragging his heels costs him a shot at another weapon on offense in exchange for his possible replacement, that's all on him and his agent. Tough schedule coming up this season, and the Draft is in 3 days.

in another thread Pestilence mentioned possibility of trading Smith to Browns for 2nd rd pick...would be interesting. Scary....but given cap space and depending on what Smith wants could be a possibility

Not a chance in hell for a 30 yr old QB

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We are just building a market for the 23rd pick.

Make a deal with us or we may pick a QB

Drafting Johnny Football would eliminate the need to draft OL so it kills two birds with one stone.

The problem now is that, at least until the Chiefs on the clock, anybody who wants a QB thinks they're going to have to go over us. So if anybody worth a shit falls, we've basically just helped all the teams that pick in front of us in their negotiations.

Tyler Bray.

It's smoke, people. Stop.

The Raiders just traded for Matt Schaub, who is 32

Pretty much. If we were actually interested, no one would know.

It's either smoke from us, trying to conceal the idea that we really want a receiver (since a lot of teams want receivers) or it is smoke from some of the teams ahead of us (IE Philly, Green Bay) trying to drum up interest for teams to try and trade up ahead of us for their pick to get a QB they covet...

How much time did he have left on his deal?

Or we provided incentive for someone to trade back with.

For a sixth. I think he was responding to someone talking about a 2nd for Smith.

draft season ftw

Perfect, great idea. Trade two seconds for a second. We are the Chiefs and John Dorsey is genious!

Makes sense except Smith is NOTHING like Cassel. Only an idiot would think that he is...

The Raiders also traded for Carson Palmer for a 1st and a 2nd round pick when Palmer was 31 years old.

Teddy Bridgewater or nothing.

Mort just said that the Chiefs like QB Derek Carr


He used the word 'affiliated'

Be ironic to see the team pull the trigger in one of the more unlikely years.

However, it would be a wise, forward-thinking move should someone drop.

Update: Chiefs considering player at 1 of ~22 positions with 1st round pick.

Murray and Mettenberger will both be better than Bortles or Bridgewater. I dont know about Carr but ive heard he demanded his brother play on the same team thats a concern.

Appearing on ESPN's*NFL Insiders*Monday, Chris Mortensen called Fresno State QB Derek Carr "a name you hear affiliated" with the Chiefs.

It comes on the heels of NFL Network's report that the Chiefs will consider a quarterback at No. 23. Mort hinted the Chiefs could be eyeing someone like Carr in a trade down, perhaps to the second round. It's possible this is just a leverage play from the Chiefs in the Alex Smith talks, but Andy Reid has often had a second- or third-round quarterback to develop. It would be sensible behind Smith in Kansas City.

These days inside information and rumors seem more like misdirection and posturing than much else.

Well....at least i have someone to check out on youtube now.

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Nothing more than pre-draft fluff, of course things will stall right before the draft....... lol

You don't restructure or re-sign a guy that you aren't 110% behind until after the draft. You never know who might fall through the cracks down to the 23rd pick.

Not getting my hopes up. I'll believe it when I see it

Aaron Murray can't beat good defenses.

I like Bo Callahan out of Wisconsin...

Heard this where? Link please?

ESPN magazine has a nice write up about Derek Carr. His brother is training him-they get up every morning at 6 and go through a grueling work out and then watch film. David is in prime shape and thinks he can still play somewhere-so maybe that is where the rumour started?

Maybe they should be spending their time teaching him how to take a snap from a center in a pro-style offense before it goes live and he gets his shit pushed in just like his brother.

That would be awesome, but it will never happen.

Do not get me wrong, I would give Smith a 2 to 3 year contract at a good deal for both parties, but it will never happen and I do not want to handcuff the team to Smith.

If we could manage that trade it would give us two things. A 1st round QB thrown into the fire, or Bray thrown into the fire while the other learns a bit. It would give the Chiefs two young QBs with nothing but upside. Even if they fail I would be happy with them at least trying for once.

Yes, because QB is clearly a need for this team, as Alex Smith was only able to put up 44 points in a playoff game without Jamaal Charles.

It only makes sense to draft a quarterback in the first round if there's a decent chance that the guy you draft will be better than the guy who could be starting for you for the next 5 years.

The guy we currently have is on the last year of his contract and might not be signing a new one with us. But **** it....let's not have any insurance behind him.

That's a fair point. After I thought about it I decided to delete that post, but I was too late.

Are you thinking they won't be able to get a deal done and/or Alex wants to leave or be traded and that team would be a better situation for him?


Yeah, me either.

Booger will lead us to the ship!

Or they're using drafting a qb in negotiations with Smith.

Or they really aren't even entertaining what Condon and Alex are asking for and they are prepared to help pack his shit.

dude, this came out on draft week. I totally believe this for sure

I walked by a TV at work and some guy said you would trade down and pick up a second. Draft a Guard low in the first, pick up a QB in the second.

With no trade they were saying LB or WR.

Like to know what team is going to give up their first and a second to move up <9 picks to late 1st.

Doubt it. I would be pretty pissed with Bortles or Carr .

Bridgewater meh.

Manziel a pipe dream

I think Bortles will be better than most on this board think.

I have no idea what other team they had in mind, but I am pretty sure they said Carr.

I would be seething with animosity if we drafted Bortles. I will never understand why this guy is being given the time of freaking day.

Like how mostly everyone thought Geno would blow minds? Lol fun times.

Because he's likely the best prospect out there...

What rookie QB had a better year than Geno last year?...

2014 NFL draft QB passing charts (pretty thorough)

Being the best of a crappy class is pretty worthless.

cool comparison stats

LOL You have no clue how any of these QBs are going to turn out.

Odds are, none of them will amount to shit.

Yep. Only the Raiders give first round picks for 30+ QBs.

I have no idea whether the Chiefs will look QB in the draft but the history is there.

Reid likes to stock up on QBs, Dorsey has proven he will grab a QB if they drop even with a starter already in place.

Depends on whether the rumor about Alex Smith contract negotiations is valid or not.


we'll see

I've been on the Aaron Murray wagon for the last year 1/2.

He will be a Chief.

The first QB drafted last year?

Geno performed as well as a rookie QB could with the worst group of skill position players in the the league. His final four games of the 2013 season were very solid.

Chiefs will not draft a QB with their first pick they are not going fool anyone.

Pfffft can't get any hopes up for this draft.

Carson has a rich, bass voice though. Can Alex Smith nail Sweet Adeline?

Siting? or Citing?

I don't think David ever got over the shell shock. He might have developed into a better QB if Boselli had been able to play and that O-line had been even halfway decent.