6 Picks In This Draft And Odds Are Not a Single One Will Start This Year
 

Absolutely mind-boggling.

I typically like to stretch out my penis before I take a leak.

All of these picks are "writing on the wall" picks.

Meaning these are all replacement picks.

Dee Ford is going to replace Hali fulltime next season. That's almost a given unless Hali is willing to restructure his deal which I doubt. Roughly $12M will be saved against the cap should Hali be traded or released next season.

Now next year there are a lot of FA WR's that are going to hit the market. I guess thats why we didn't really look at WR this year. Maybe an UDFA makes the team, and we just go with it. De'Anthony Thomas will see the field a lot in the slot position. They didn't just draft this kid to sit on the bench behind Charles and Davis. He's going to be the next McCluster, except this kid is better than DMC. He timed slow at the combine, but he runs in the high 4.3's from what I heard at his pro day.

Certainly the OT we drafted is a project. He's raw, but he has a lot you can already work with and mold. With him focusing full time on football w/ NFL coaches, training program etc, he could make out to be something. He looks like a mean son of s bitch on the small amount of tape I've watched, but that's against inferior opponents. It will be interesting to see what he can do against real NFL talent.

If anyone is going to start right away it could be Fulton. Not saying it will happen but OG seems to be a wide open competition.

I would think Gaines will see some time in nickel and dime packages at first. Eventually seeing more time once Flowers is traded or waived. He'll be due some good money before too long...something that we probably can't afford to keep. If Flowers is gone before the 2015 draft I bet we use a first rd pick on a CB. Either that or a WR.

And Aaron Murray.....I've been on this train for about 8 months. I think he's the best QB in the draft. To have Gruden say he's one of the best QB's to come into his "camp" says a lot considering who's came through there. He'd be a first/second rd pick if it weren't for his injury. He's small, but so is Drew Brees. This guy stays in the pocket, doesn't get rattled, he's accurate. You put him into a good system w/ playmakers and a stable coaching staff and I guarantee you you're seeing the QBOTF, and you'll see great things to come w/ this kid.

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Would you care to make a wager over your statement?


Name it and I'm in.

Go to KCCHIEFS .com and watch the scouts and Dorsey interviews on the draft and you will feel good about our picks. Dee ford will make an impact this year and we're going to have an exciting slot receiver/punt returner that is fast. We got a road grader guard/tackle as well as a corner with a high ceiling.

The Chiefs are better now than they were a week ago. and I'm not a big fan of aaron murray but he could be the next Tom Brady, just maybe.

Aaron Murray will be the next Aaron Murray.

Breaking news; "Starting" positions don't mean anything in today's NFL. (Except QBs and OL)

Scouting says he's smart and accurate. That's a good thing !

KC plays so many sub packages that Forf will have the chance to get significant snaps - if he can stay healthy

Yep and the Chiefs O-Line SCARES the hell out of me. Way too many questions for them all to work out.

I honestly hate that literally everyone has to reference Drew Brees when they are talking about these short ass qbs

The biggest need on this team was defensive depth and they addressed that. You can whine all you want about receiver, but they scored 35 PPG the 2nd half with the same core minus the guy everyone says is awful.

Yep, I agree with your analysis! I would BET that Ford, Thomas, and Gaines will contribute immensely, as the season progresses. Murray shouldnt see the field, and the lineman may take a year or so to contribute in the game, possibly. To the orginaly post, POO-POO on starting, most of this years draft will be contributors, dont know what else you could expect? We don't have THAT many holes where a draft pick could move right into and displace a starter, unless it was at Safety or ILB. Over all, a very good draft, no reaches that I could see. I would like to have had Cooks at WR, and wondering if they would have taken him if he fell a few spots more?

Having a guy like Ford to give TamHous a breather and Vance Walker being able to rush the passer will make a huge difference.

I've become less and less worried about it through the years. We had one of the best OL ever several years back, and didn't do a thing with it. Conversely, there have been some teams with terrible OL win the Super Bowl. So I'd be ok with an average OL, consider limited resources.

They bring up Vince Young and Jamarcus Russell all the time when talking about black QBs.

The short-asses deserve some racism, too.

I really love the Murray pick too. So much to like about it.

In the end the draft isnt suppose to be about this year, in the end its about the future. But I bet ford ends up playing over 50% of the snaps on defense this year

Would you rather Doug Flutie?

The first and second rounds should be about both this year, and the future.

The funniest thing is this place whined for YEARS about not taking playmakers. They do it and now they should a stocked the trenches or reached for a guy just to throw at receiver.

That's not always a bad thing. As long as some if these guys are solid starters in a year or two, then it's all good. If a bunch of them started this year, then you probably have a crappy talent base to begin with.

We need to see last years class step up big this year, this years class contribute this year and step up next year.

And next years draft should be interesting. Mark Dominic tweeted out that next years draft is supposed to be better than this years draft, and we ought to be going into it with at least 11 picks...

You're posts are boring without the NWO music

Wait.

This years draft, which is considered by most to be the deepest in years, primarily because of all the underclassmen that declared, is not as good as as next year's class, which should be depleted because of all the underclassmen in this one?

Yeah, I just don't see how next years draft could be better than this year.

I get that we needed a Safety.

But the way people are talking, they would have considered this draft to be a huge success if we got a 50 reception #2 WR and a bunch of o-linemen, and a bust if players like Ford and Gaines become playmakers but don't start full time in year 1.

Sorry, guys. This is the first time in a long time I felt this team was committing to BPA instead of drafting for need. I'm just amazed that after years of complaining that we don't do this, when we finally do it, people are getting pissy about it.

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People were begging for wide outs that will be JAGS in this league.

I kind of like not reaching for need and having to force or depend on our #1 pick to be a difference maker from day one. That doesn't mean he can't be a difference maker just that we don't have to depend on it.

Do we still worry about "who starts???" How rec soccer of you, OP.

The draft picks from this year will be in the mix and several will get significant snaps. That's how it goes with teams that make the playoffs. Most are drafting late and most aren't drafting immediate starters. There are exceptions to the rule, but that's the case most of the time.

Thomas will see the field early, so will Dee. We'll see how it goes with the other guys. What is pretty amazing is that I think all of the picks will make the team.

Could use Fran Tarkenton or our own Len Dawson if you want?

Damn, you are stroking it today.


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If he adds a half dozen sacks and double amount of hurries it will have an impact.

On offense it's all about the QB's. It's the most vital position.

The most vital position on defense is pass rushers, and you need a lot of them.

Coughlin has been drafting 'depth' pass rushers for nearly a decade. He doesn't wait until he NEEDS one to get another. No matter how much you kid yourself it was that pass rush, and not Eli Manning, that brought home two super bowl trophies by stifling a HOF QB. You can't have too many pass rushers.

If we can't get him on the field there's only two reasons. 1. He can't play (sucks or injured) or 2. Sutton can't manage his packages.

Coughlin managed to get Tuck, Strahan, Osi, and Kiwanuka on the field at the same time.

I just don't see how we got a starting NFL QB in the 5th round, the best draft pick value of a QB since Brady? That kind of shit just doesn't happen to the Chiefs.

There is nothing wrong with having high hopes for the players the Cheaps selected in the draft but some of you are going way overboard...

Now if you need an Unbiased voice in this argument to help you understand how good your player is vs how good you think he is, just feel free to ask me, I will answer you honestly.

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There aren't many here that are old enough to have seen either of those guys.

I have, in the past,however, drawn a comparison between Lenny and Drew Brees, and more recently compared Manziel to Tarkenton.

Why? Two of the top 10 QB's in the NFL are under six feet. It's just a reality.

I know drew is listed as six feet... but he's not.

The same offer is there for you, too. :D

Our first round pick is going to play a lot of snaps this year if he's healthy.

The 3rd rounder will see the field too.

Listen, I am not complaining about this draft, but let's be honest here.

Selling these guys as BPA is bullshit.

The first 4 picks are clearly replacements for players lost, or that we will be losing.

That is fact.

How can you say he's not 6 feet when he measured just ever so slightly above 6 feet at the combine?

I've stood next to him. I was taller.

Another situation where I am addressing the absurdity of the post.

Not commenting on these players drafted and how they will be used, or how much.

Oh... I'm sold. They clearly used defective tools at the combine.

And that's the way it should be. The one thing people forget is that difference makers often take time to settle into the NFL. A QB is a great example of a player who doesn't necessarily need to see the field right away.

Any pass rusher we draft is going to have a massive transition from college to the NFL, because most are DEs converting to OLB. Dion Jordan struggled early on but I still think Miami made a great pick and would have gladly taken him over Fisher (even if Fisher had a good rookie year, which he didn't).

I don't particularly care if you're sold. I wasn't trying to persuade you. I was answering a question.

I met him. He wasn't as tall as I am. That convinced me because I'm barely short of six feet myself.

OK, no problem.

It sounded like the Chiefs had a lot of interest in Manziel, and I can't remember who was on the Chiefs' board if they didn't pick Ford (Dorsey mentioned a few names and I'm pretty sure it was receiver or an offensive lineman). So no, I don't buy that we approached this draft force-fitting any picks. Dorsey this year more than ever has been insistent that he treated his board like the end all be all.

All draft picks are replacement picks.

Yeah, I know NFL teams never sell bullshit to their fanbase.

You are a Kool-aid drinking ****ing moron.

Remember when we picked Nico Johnson to be a starter?

[QUOTE=milkman;10622752]There aren't many here that are old enough to have seen either of those guys.
Hmmm, their loss....;)

It was tweeted .That means it has to be true.

Because the draft is only beneficial for the forthcoming season?

LMAO

David Carr 2.0

I'd be willing to bet that Fulton, Tardif, Gaines, and/or Ford get a chance to start this year at some point. And DAT returning and playing slot quite a bit is almost as good as starting.

Sure.....i also remember when CP had Craphonso Thorpe and Alphonso Hodge pegged in as starters. CP tells me every pick should be a 10 year starter.

True, but I fail to see a problem with that. Find replacements early, let them learn from the person they will eventually replace. Better than waiting until they are done and then trying to fill the hole.

I'd guess Ford isn't playing in the base defense until later in the season -if at all-.

That is assuming that a nickel lineup doesn't become the base and they've put Tamba at one of the ends or something.

Gaines will get nickel looks, and might be a return guy if he can play close to his combine speed if nothing else.

DAT might be the same story as Ford, in that it may take a while for him to work his way onto the field in a contributory role on offense and will be a returner as well.

Aaron Murray.. Well I kind of agree with OTWP with the sentiment that any quarterback taken outside of the second is probably just a clipboard and ballcap guy for the duration of his career, but- among the guys available- I guess I'll defer to Reid's judgment on finding a guy that will fit his system. His track record against good defenses is troubling.

The 6th rounder fatmen are project linemen that will probably get a chance to rotate through the expansive NFL-sanctioned game day attire.

I still hate-hate-HATE the fact they didn't have a second rounder, and I think a lot of other teams did much better in the draft than KC did but as a whole I can't find a lot of issue with the seven guys picked.

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I'd be really, really surprised if nobody from this draft class starts at all this entire year.

The first few picks were slotted correctly. Especially now knowing that the Eagles and Falcons were targeting Ford. And guess what, immediately after the Dee Ford pick there was a run on CBs and OLBs. Your theory is garbage. We lost a bunch of players. Over the next few years, we have LOTS of veteran contracts we want to shed. Of course our draft was going to be heavy on picks replacing players we lost or intend to replace soon.

You're just being negative for the sake of being negative. OLBs and CBs are very high positional value players and we got ones that were slotted correctly. Everything we've heard from Dorsey, it's clear he stuck to a specific board and that if the guy we took wasn't there, he would have just plucked the next guy on the board. How is that not BPA?

Gaines, Fulton, and Thomas maybe won't start, but they all will be on the field a lot next season. Fulton probably has the best chance of any of our picks to start the season opener.

The draft isn't always about "THIS" year. Many cases it's about the next year and year after that.

But man... Kelce and Commings MUST come through this season and be productive.

I assume the Chiefs look at June cuts for more S, WR or OL help

Sure. I tried to do it with the Alex Smith guy last year but he wouldn't take it.

What are the terms? I am talking about a legitimate long time starter.Gaines starting in either Cooper or Smith's spot. Dee Ford starting in one of the OLB positions etc...

It doesn't have to be for the full year, but it does have to be for a considerable amount of time.

But none of this injury bullshit.

Name your price sir.

Meanwhile Jamaal Charles is entering his 7th year...

At the ripe age of 27 after coming off his best year, showing nothing but improvement year after year, even after the ACL. :hmmm:

Not the best choice, given the outcome.

Meanwhile Alex Smith is 30...

Derrick Johnson is 31...

Etc..

Our core group of guys are going to start showing some signs of age. Besides, a first rounder should be an immediate starter.

That's a Myth, at best its a 50/50 that a post #20 guy starts on day 1.

Unless DJ sees a massive injury, that guys' going to play until at least 36. He just keeps getting better and better. I'm not sure why you even bring up Alex Smith when Peyton is the better part of 40 right now and you guys are already crowning the Broncos as division winners before a single practice has been held.

QB's and ILB's tend to be the one position where a guy who is truly talented can play for a very long time at. Look at Urlacher, guy doesn't even have Tendons, knee caps, ACL's or MCL's in his legs/knees, and he was still out there in 2012 lol

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LMAO


Touche.

Ohhhh. Now I get it. You over-reacted!


I thought not a single one of our draft picks was going to start this year. Have you already changed your mind? ;)

You were banking on an injury to thrust one of our rookies into the starting lineup?

I see how you work you sly devil you.

This isnt 1995. These guys will play and play A Lot. I give no shits they arent labeled a starter in some Super Tecmo base defense.

To quote the inimitable Ian Astbury... YEEEAH!