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Baby Lee 08-16-2014 08:22 PM

Will robots take your job
 
One of the more comprehensive bits on coming changes

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In58men 08-16-2014 08:27 PM

Sorry BCD no more standing in front of Walmart with your retired veteran sign and your ****ed up lookin dog.

Kidd Lex 08-16-2014 09:08 PM

That's some terrifying shit.

Nightfyre 08-16-2014 09:10 PM

You know, if we could get robots to do all the work in the world, we could all go without working a day in our lives. Of course, why would we need an education at that point? So would begin the devolution of the human intellect. Idiocracy will come to pass, which near as I can tell, it will anyway.

This does raise questions about the future of humanity without darwinism to pick off the weak. Human kind will plateau from an evolutionary perspective, and eventually decline. That is, until the next extinction event wipes us off the face of the planet. My conclusion is therefore, that sometimes it is better to let nature take its course.

Kidd Lex 08-16-2014 09:13 PM

Good point, if everything is automated then do we just go to socialism and few work?

I'm not smart enough to wrap my mind around how this would work.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-16-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis (Post 10824306)
Good point, if everything is automated then do we just go to socialism and few work?

I'm not smart enough to wrap my mind around how this would work.

Read "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us" by Bill Joy for a worrisome take on how the future might play out and The Age of Spiritual Machines or The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil for a more hopeful take.

FWIW, your question is one raised by Kaczynski in his manifesto

BigRedChief 08-16-2014 09:22 PM

There will be massive loss of jobs. People and society will adjust just like they have when other advances happened.

BigRedChief 08-16-2014 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis (Post 10824306)
Good point, if everything is automated then do we just go to socialism and few work?

I'm not smart enough to wrap my mind around how this would work.

I just don't see capitalism as its currently practiced here in the USA surviving. Even today you are seeing the income inequality gap widen between rich and poor. When those middle class $50K a year jobs disappear, thats when the change will take place. No strong middle class, no status quo. It's inevitable.

Kidd Lex 08-16-2014 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10824311)
Read "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us" by Bill Joy for a worrisome take on how the future might play out and The Age of Spiritual Machines or The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil for a more hopeful take.

FWIW, your question is one raised by Kaczynski in his manifesto

On it, needed a new Kindle read after finishing Moneyball. I'll read the bad news by a guy named Joy first and come in here to report the doom and gloom later. Sounds like the government will need to create some mass sterility and disease to lower the population.

Don't need a bunch of unemployed third world low class losers messing it up for the top 1% now do we?*




*like I said I just read Moneyball, where the establishment is out to stick it to the little man. Sorry for the melodramatic post. We are all ****ed though. :)

Kidd Lex 08-16-2014 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10824323)
I just don't see capitalism as its currently practiced here in the USA surviving. Even today you are seeing the income inequality gap widen between rich and poor. When those middle class $50K a year jobs disappear, thats when the change will take place. No strong middle class, no status quo. It's inevitable.

This seems a bit ironic, because it would be capitalism putting itself up of business. Just like the humans who create and program the robots and automation.

TinyEvel 08-16-2014 09:35 PM

I am a robot. So, no.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-16-2014 09:38 PM

FWIW, Bill Joy is the founder of Sun Microsystems and the inventor of Jini and Java

stumppy 08-16-2014 10:01 PM

I'd like to see them try.

I'm a professional bum. It ain't easy being me.

Buehler445 08-16-2014 10:29 PM

A good bit of what I used to do is automated. I work as hard as I ever did.

Autosteer owns. It ****ing owns. It is money in the bank. But it takes a huge amount of setup work to make it right. ITEC Pro takes exponentially more setup. You can gain massive productivity, but it takes a lot of management.

Much more automation is possible, but the lawyers won't let unmanned vehicles go, and it isn't close.

Bottom line is this, automation allows for efficiency without expertise or training costs. That is good. But nothing bars competition from automating as well. Over the long term, automation massively increases productivity but reduces margins.

Bowser 08-16-2014 10:30 PM

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sd4chiefs 08-16-2014 11:02 PM

I would be spending all my time banging a sex robot.

GloucesterChief 08-16-2014 11:09 PM

Nope. I am a DBA. Oracle has been trying to take our jobs for years and has failed every time.

Psyko Tek 08-16-2014 11:25 PM

I have been building machines that working in the semiconductor industry for the last 3 decades so when thr rest of you are bowing to our new robotic overlords, I will be fine
I am the TEKNICIAN that build and fixes them

somebody will still be needed to change the JIZZERVOIR on the sexbots
no worries for me

cdcox 08-16-2014 11:32 PM

On the technological side, the video is 100% correct.

Economically, I think there is a great deal more uncertainty. Henry Ford made his fortune by making sure his employees could afford his technology. This model seems built on the idea that ultimately only a very few could afford the technology and its benefits. The math doesn't work for most people to be displaced from their jobs, even if the technology is capable of displacing them.

I think a disruptive event rests on the horizon:

A revolution from the disenfranchised?

The benevolent billionaire movement expands to take care of us all?

After the singularity occurs, robots view us a pets worth keeping us around similar to dogs and cats?

After the singularity occurs, robots eliminate us?

This is going to be so cool to see what happens.

Hoopsdoc 08-17-2014 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sd4chiefs (Post 10824420)
I would be spending all my time banging a sex robot.

Me too.

Very interesting video.

Red And Yellow 08-17-2014 07:04 AM

I'm a welder robots are already taking my jobs over...

GloucesterChief 08-17-2014 08:31 AM

Even if robots take over all major manufacturing there will still be jobs open for skilled craftspeople.

Its one of the problems I have with Star Trek is that there still will be scarcity in some areas just not limited by resources like now but by labor. Having hand made items will become symbol of status just like it is now.

ChiTown 08-17-2014 08:33 AM

If robots can jerk me off, then yes.

Fire Me Boy! 08-17-2014 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red And Yellow (Post 10824597)
I'm a welder robots are already taking my jobs over...


And they use proper punctuation, too!

BigRedChief 08-17-2014 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 10824426)
Nope. I am a DBA. Oracle has been trying to take our jobs for years and has failed every time.

I wouldn't be so sure. Right now and for the next 10 years or so, your golden.

I just don't see how a virtualized system can't automatically tune a DB in the future. Ensure integrity and access to the rows of data. We have been doing this successfully with networks and Servers for years. Why not DB's?

You already have virtualization and live migrations happening in every shop. Two months ago, I architected a multiple site enterprise solution using SAN without EMC/Netapp etc. Just used Windows 2012 and file services role. Virtualized the network.

It's changing fast.

BucEyedPea 08-17-2014 09:17 AM

Not mine. Robots can't create art or design. Well, maybe they could with artificial intelligence. What about talent though.

They could replace the more menial parts of an artist's or a designer's job.

My other job, cleaning the house. Sounds great. Bring them on.

BucEyedPea 08-17-2014 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10824323)
I just don't see capitalism as its currently practiced here in the USA surviving. Even today you are seeing the income inequality gap widen between rich and poor. When those middle class $50K a year jobs disappear, thats when the change will take place. No strong middle class, no status quo. It's inevitable.

None of which is caused by capitalism, since we don't particularly have capitalism. We have cronyism and it's growing.

BucEyedPea 08-17-2014 09:23 AM

This was a concern before but other jobs would be created as they have before. No one can predict how markets will play out. There's always someone to come along and do something that can upset prediction. Humans are like that.

George Liquor 08-17-2014 09:57 AM

This is the first step toward Terminators.

cdcox 08-17-2014 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 10824725)
Not mine. Robots can't create art or design. Well, maybe they could with artificial intelligence. What about talent though.

They could replace the more menial parts of an artist's or a designer's job.

My other job, cleaning the house. Sounds great. Bring them on.

You didn't watch the video.

crazycoffey 08-17-2014 10:43 AM

Robo cop, ends racial tensions? No, sharptonbot will claim the computer was built by the KKK

Discuss Thrower 08-17-2014 11:06 AM

We're ****ed and there's nothing we can do about it.

BucEyedPea 08-17-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 10824797)
You didn't watch the video.

Yes. Just responded to title and some comments. o:-)

TimeForWasp 08-17-2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10824673)
If robots can jerk me off, then yes.

The robot may be the jealous type and jerk it clean off.

Baby Lee 08-17-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10824673)
If robots can jerk me off, then yes.

They're working on a robot that gives head and cuts hair just for you.

BWillie 08-17-2014 11:40 AM

God I hope robots take our jobs. That would be awesome, then we wouldn't have to work. Robots do it for us, duh

mlyonsd 08-17-2014 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10824892)
They're working on a robot that gives head and cuts hair just for you.

That doesn't sound like a good combination to me. Especially if some smart ass figures out how to hack in and re-program it to do the opposite.

Rasputin 08-17-2014 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red And Yellow (Post 10824597)
I'm a welder robots are already taking my jobs over...



Thay tuk ur jahb

Tribal Warfare 08-17-2014 11:54 AM

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I've seen this shit before but it starred Steve Guttenberg and Ally Sheedy

Predarat 08-17-2014 01:03 PM

It will be a robot, computer, illegal, or one of those damn H1Bs.

Baby Lee 08-17-2014 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 10824912)
That doesn't sound like a good combination to me. Especially if some smart ass figures out how to hack in and re-program it to do the opposite.

Don't tell me you don't know that backstory!!!

suzzer99 08-17-2014 05:26 PM

Until they make robots that can program themselves, I should be in the clear.

Baby Lee 08-17-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 10825884)
Until they make robots that can program themselves, I should be in the clear.

You didn't watch the video.

Tribal Warfare 08-17-2014 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 10825884)
Until they make robots that can program themselves, I should be in the clear.

The self aware Terminator scenario.

Donger 08-17-2014 05:32 PM

No, they won't. Not mine, anyway.

Fairplay 08-17-2014 05:37 PM

probably

cdcox 08-17-2014 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10825901)
No, they won't. Not mine, anyway.

Computers already run the stock market. It's just a matter of time before they manipulate oil prices and then you'll be sitting in a lawn chair in your garage watching the world go by.

Buehler445 08-17-2014 05:43 PM

I'm kind of hoping they do. I'm tired of working. I'd like to just determine decision criteria, haul fuel and grease and manage my business.

Donger 08-17-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 10825915)
Computers already run the stock market. It's just a matter of time before they manipulate oil prices and then you'll be sitting in a lawn chair in your garage watching the world go by.

* shudder *

ROYC75 08-17-2014 08:34 PM

Will robots take your job
 
Not mine ...... but I have it from high authority that many of the current KC Chiefs jobs may be for takeover.

listopencil 08-17-2014 08:43 PM

Somebody has to maintain and repair the robots.

Discuss Thrower 08-17-2014 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10827594)
Somebody has to maintain and repair the robots.

Other robots.

MMXcalibur 08-17-2014 08:44 PM

I'd be interested in Hog Farmer's thoughts on this subject.

ROYC75 08-17-2014 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10827594)
Somebody has to maintain and repair the robots.

Obama has control of his obots.


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