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alnorth 10-24-2014 11:02 PM

*** Official Kansas City Royals @ San Francisco Giants World Series Game 4 Thread ***
 
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Series Tied, 2-2

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/logos/80x80/kc.png

Jason Vargas 4IP 3R 3ER 2BB 3K
Jason Frasor ⅓IP 1R 1ER 0BB 0K
Danny Duffy ⅔IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Loss Brandon Finnegan 1IP 5R 5ER 2BB 0K
Tim Collins 2IP 2R 2ER 1BB 2K

VS.

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/logos/80x80/sf.png

Ryan Vogelsong 2⅔IP 4R 4ER 1BB 2K
Jean Machi ⅓IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Win Yusmeiro Petit 3IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Hold Jeremy Affeldt 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Sergio Romo 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Hunter Strickland 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K

Home Runs

none

Starting Lineups

KC

1. Alcides Escobar, SS
2. Alex Gordon, LF
3. Lorenzo Cain, RF
4. Eric Hosmer, 1B
5. Mike Moustakas, 3B
5. Tim Collins, P
6. Omar Infante, 2B
7. Salvador Perez, C
8. Jarrod Dyson, CF
9. Jason Vargas, P
9. Jason Frasor, P
9. Danny Duffy, P
9. Norichika Aoki, ph
9. Brandon Finnegan, P
9. Jayson Nix, 3B

SF

1. Gregor Blanco, CF
2. Joe Panik, 2B
3. Buster Posey, C
4. Hunter Pence, RF
5. Pablo Sandoval, 3B
6. Brandon Belt, 1B
7. Juan Perez, LF
8. Brandon Crawford, SS
9. Ryan Vogelsong, P
9. Jean Machi, P
9. Matt Duffy, ph
9. Yusmeiro Petit, P
9. Jeremy Affeldt, P
9. Michael Morse, ph
9. Sergio Romo, P
9. Travis Ishikawa, ph
9. Hunter Strickland, P

Mr. Flopnuts 10-24-2014 11:02 PM

FIRST!!!

Rasputin 10-24-2014 11:03 PM

Boom Ch Ka

CaliforniaChief 10-24-2014 11:06 PM

Al, you're a fricking machine. In for another win.

007 10-24-2014 11:13 PM

In for the WIN

TLO 10-24-2014 11:18 PM

I love you guys.

Hammock Parties 10-24-2014 11:22 PM

We need Hootie up for this one with his mojo strong. Can his BAC recover in time?

WakkaWakka 10-24-2014 11:28 PM

****, i haven't even sobered up from game 3 yet, but IN!!!

Buehler445 10-24-2014 11:31 PM

In!

TribalElder 10-24-2014 11:39 PM

IN FOR THE MOTHER****ING WIN!

BillSelfsTrophycase 10-25-2014 12:48 AM

Keep your foot on the gas boys


FINISH HIM!!!!!

Toadkiller 10-25-2014 12:54 AM

In! Giants fans were real quiet for a long time in game three. I was the only one up and cheering most of the game.

thabear04 10-25-2014 01:07 AM

My friends hate me for going against the Giants. But they will get over it. Let's ****en win this Game 4.

Rasputin 10-25-2014 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 11049463)
My friends hate me for going against the Giants. But they will get over it. Let's ****en win this Game 4.



You need new friends.

Dartgod 10-25-2014 01:37 AM

I have to be up to go to work in 2.5 hours and can't sleep. Still amped up from the win tonight.

Let's do it!

eDave 10-25-2014 02:05 AM

Not photoshopped:

http://i.imgur.com/Acr1xro.png

Why Not? 10-25-2014 04:34 AM

In. Win this game and it's parade planning time

ChiTown 10-25-2014 05:42 AM

In! This is incredible. I can't believe this is all really happening. We are up 2-1 in the World ****ing Series! Holy shit!

Unsmooth-Moment 10-25-2014 06:20 AM

In for da win.

Kidd Lex 10-25-2014 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 11049463)
My friends hate me for going against the Giants. But they will get over it. Let's ****en win this Game 4.

You have us now....So yes, you definitely need new friends.

How about we take this thing to 3-1!

rockymtnchief 10-25-2014 06:35 AM

Let's keep this train on track and get another W!

CaliforniaChief 10-25-2014 06:49 AM

Alright.

I'm assuming Ned will go with the same lineup as yesterday, particularly with another contact pitcher going for us. Add in the fact that it's going to rain all morning and could rain into the game, and the outfield's going to be wet. Do you want Aoki practicing Japanese Parkour on a wet outfield, surrounded by jutting brick walls. Yeah, me neither.

For SF, we'll probably see Morse in LF instead of Ishikawa.

Going back to the weather...it's a steady rain in SF right now. Looks like it tapers down but maybe not completely off by first pitch. I think they'll play, but it might be messy. Ball might not carry in heavy air, good news for Vargas.

Deberg_1990 10-25-2014 07:00 AM

On paper this could be a wild game. Vargas vs Vogelsong. Each one is capable of getting rocked. I imagine Vogel will be on an extremely short leash.

CaliforniaChief 10-25-2014 07:04 AM

Yeah, I agree. I think we may see Petit in this one. I also think Frasor will play a key role in this game.

Kidd Lex 10-25-2014 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 11049515)
Alright.

I'm assuming Ned will go with the same lineup as yesterday, particularly with another contact pitcher going for us.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0wvNzsCIAIo3a0.png

https://twitter.com/RealBanny/status/525847171900264449

Archie F. Swin 10-25-2014 07:08 AM

ballz deep

CaliforniaChief 10-25-2014 07:18 AM

Just reading some stuff online out of San Francisco, wondering if Morse will start. Not only is he still recovering from an oblique, but he was also pretty sick yesterday (on an IV bag). Morse is your better bat, and I would still guess he starts, but maybe not?

He's quite a hitter. I wouldn't mind KC taking a run at him next year as our next DH, honestly.

cmh6476 10-25-2014 07:23 AM

I'm here for the party

TLO 10-25-2014 07:55 AM

I'd almost rather face Bum today....

DrRyan 10-25-2014 08:04 AM

Bring it and keep the foot on the gas boys!!!

Iowanian 10-25-2014 08:08 AM

I think it's pretty cool of the Glass family to splurge on the new uniforms for the bullpen pitchers. They're appropriate for the last 2 wins.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ss_Victory.jpg

journeyscarab 10-25-2014 09:16 AM

I'm in for the win! I think I'll head down to P&L to watch the game with a few thousand local friends! GO ROYALS!!

PHOG 10-25-2014 09:25 AM

Great game last night, still kinda laughing at Herrera's AB.(now anyway), Make it win number 3 Royals!!! Keep it up kiddos!!! :thumb::thumb:

BlackHelicopters 10-25-2014 09:28 AM

Still erect

Hootie 10-25-2014 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 11049372)
We need Hootie up for this one with his mojo strong. Can his BAC recover in time?

No idea, omg I'm so hungover.

But uh, yeah. Them starting Vogelsong over Bumgarner just lost them the World Series

Hammock Parties 10-25-2014 09:29 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0zYCayCQAA5vks.jpg

Hootie 10-25-2014 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 11049555)
I'd almost rather face Bum today....

Que?

cmh6476 10-25-2014 10:13 AM

Someone asked the other day if those of us with Gm 6 tix were hoping they would lose one in SF. At that point I obviously said no, but I wonder if winning the first one does change my thinking a bit, not that I would ever want them to lose but now at least I find comfort knowing the Giants can't win at home which either means Royals win it in SF, or we play Gm 6 for the win, or worst case now being we play Gm 6 for a tie with the chance to win it all in Gm 7. Not a terrible scenario any way you look at it, and at this point it's only about the Royals taking the crown no matter how it shakes out.

cmh6476 10-25-2014 10:16 AM

It would be pretty cool to witness the victory celebration however

Prison Bitch 10-25-2014 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by journeyscarab (Post 11049676)
I'm in for the win! I think I'll head down to P&L to watch the game with a few thousand local friends! GO ROYALS!!

I drove home from DT yesterday about 530 right past P&L, it was already packed and there were news trucks everywhere. I was so jealous of the days I didn't have little children.

007 10-25-2014 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by journeyscarab (Post 11049676)
I'm in for the win! I think I'll head down to P&L to watch the game with a few thousand local friends! GO ROYALS!!

That looks like so much fun.

007 10-25-2014 10:20 AM

If they win tonight, I wonder if The K will be open to the public tomorrow to watch the game on the Jumbotron.

Rasputin 10-25-2014 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11049778)
If they win tonight, I wonder if The K will be open to the public tomorrow to watch the game on the Jumbotron.


They should do that for tonights game.


Go Royals.

kchero 10-25-2014 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11049774)
I drove home from DT yesterday about 530 right past P&L, it was already packed and there were news trucks everywhere. I was so jealous of the days I didn't have little children.

This.
The wife and I had that convo last night.

KCUnited 10-25-2014 10:44 AM

We've been having neighborhood watch parties for every game of the WS. My neighbor works as a sound engineer and has about 30k of projector screen/speakers set up in his driveway. It would drive Donger to Robin Williams himself. It's been the most fun I've had in KC for awhile.

Rasputin 10-25-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 11049824)
We've been having neighborhood watch parties for every game of the WS. My neighbor works as a sound engineer and has about 30k of projector screen/speakers set up in his driveway. It would drive Donger to Robin Williams himself. It's been the most fun I've had in KC for awhile.

That would be awesome!

penbrook 10-25-2014 10:53 AM

Jason Vargas' career OPS: .608
Derek Jeter's 2014 OPS: .617

BigMeatballDave 10-25-2014 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11049778)
If they win tonight, I wonder if The K will be open to the public tomorrow to watch the game on the Jumbotron.

On this? :D

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/kc/...ls_275x235.jpg

alnorth 10-25-2014 10:55 AM

Articles today on Ned have been hilarious. They are essentially saying: "we give up. Ned Yost is a magical warlock."

Why Not? 10-25-2014 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kchero (Post 11049803)
This.
The wife and I had that convo last night.

Oh yeah. Love my kids and grateful we got to go to game two, but back in the day the wife and I would be spending 3 days in SF right about now

Hootie 10-25-2014 11:04 AM

look, I was pretty irritated about Finnegan last night. Of course, kid is nails...but that should have been Wade Davis right then and there.

But Ned was money. He was right, I was wrong. I didn't want to see the kid in that spot, but he was awesome.

In Ned I trust.

Rasputin 10-25-2014 11:10 AM

54 Giant outs away from being World Champions.

TribalElder 10-25-2014 11:19 AM

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ElFDlShmOng" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ChiefsCountry 10-25-2014 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11049874)
look, I was pretty irritated about Finnegan last night. Of course, kid is nails...but that should have been Wade Davis right then and there.

But Ned was money. He was right, I was wrong. I didn't want to see the kid in that spot, but he was awesome.

In Ned I trust.

It was a bunch of lefties and the bottom of the order. Why in the hell burn Wade Davis for them?

penbrook 10-25-2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11049892)
It was a bunch of lefties and the bottom of the order. Why in the hell burn Wade Davis for them?

It doesnt matter if your a lefty, a righty, or a god. Davis will shut you out.

Deberg_1990 10-25-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 11049531)
Just reading some stuff online out of San Francisco, wondering if Morse will start. Not only is he still recovering from an oblique, but he was also pretty sick yesterday (on an IV bag). Morse is your better bat, and I would still guess he starts, but maybe not?

He's quite a hitter. I wouldn't mind KC taking a run at him next year as our next DH, honestly.

I'll bet the Royals go away from a full time DH next year. They might rotate it around to give guys some rest.

Hootie 10-25-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11049892)
It was a bunch of lefties and the bottom of the order. Why in the hell burn Wade Davis for them?

burn?

he'd still come out and pitch the 8th

it's the world ****ing series

shit, if we get to a game 7

I'd go

Guthrie
Guthrie
Guthrie
Herrera
Herrera
Davis
Davis
Davis
Holland

and I'm not even kidding

(with Holland available in the 8th in case Davis runs out of gas)

Hootie 10-25-2014 11:39 AM

with that all being subject to change in case Guthrie gets into any trouble at all

and by at all, I mean, if 2 people get on base in the first inning, his ass is out for one of the beasts and we'll worry about it later by giving a clean inning to Vargas or Finnegan or Duffy etc

Halfcan 10-25-2014 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11049855)
Articles today on Ned have been hilarious. They are essentially saying: "we give up. Ned Yost is a magical warlock."

ROFL you have to admit- his moves have paid off despite himself. I thought it was brilliant to move Cain over and have Dyson take center-how many great catches did they make?

Ned

Wears number 3 due to his friendship and respect for Dale Sr.

Hunts with Jeff Foxworthy in the off season.

Hobbies include - Taxidermy.

Maybe we have underestimated this country boy? :hmmm:

Halfcan 10-25-2014 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 11049881)
54 Giant outs away from being World Champions.

:clap:

milkman 10-25-2014 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 11049689)
Great game last night, still kinda laughing at Herrera's AB.(now anyway), Make it win number 3 Royals!!! Keep it up kiddos!!! :thumb::thumb:

The way the Royals were able to laugh about that at bat tells you just how loose these guys are.

penbrook 10-25-2014 11:45 AM

Liam Hendriks designated for assignment

Rasputin 10-25-2014 11:46 AM

So sick of political adds. **** you assholes.

Mav 10-25-2014 12:04 PM

Really kind of excited about tonight. I trust Vogelsong. I agree with Bochy not burning up bum tonight.

alnorth 10-25-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11049892)
It was a bunch of lefties and the bottom of the order. Why in the hell burn Wade Davis for them?

Yeah, I had no problem with Finnegan there. I would have pinch-hit for Herrera, but if you are going to stay with him in the 7th, then at that point Ned pretty much did what I would have done.

Prison Bitch 10-25-2014 12:51 PM

I've been a Ned defender (well not really defender of him, so much as opponent of the idea managers win or lose many games)....but hitting Herrera there was just mind-boggling.

Simply Red 10-25-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11050117)
Yeah, I had no problem with Finnegan there. I would have pinch-hit for Herrera, but if you are going to stay with him in the 7th, then at that point Ned pretty much did what I would have done.

From what I've seen Yost has done a fine job this post season.

This team seems to respond to him. Not to beat it to death, because I've mentioned it many times in the recent past, it's true though.

ChiefsCountry 10-25-2014 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11050117)
Yeah, I had no problem with Finnegan there. I would have pinch-hit for Herrera, but if you are going to stay with him in the 7th, then at that point Ned pretty much did what I would have done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11050118)
I've been a Ned defender (well not really defender of him, so much as opponent of the idea managers win or lose many games)....but hitting Herrera there was just mind-boggling.

I think you almost had to have Herrera pitch to Pence though. If Dyson got out then it would have been all moot, and Aoki more than likely would have pinch hit to start the 8th.

Hootie 10-25-2014 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11050118)
I've been a Ned defender (well not really defender of him, so much as opponent of the idea managers win or lose many games)....but hitting Herrera there was just mind-boggling.

no, it wasn't

why in god's holy **** would we not pitch Herrera in the 7th?

007 10-25-2014 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11049854)

Its all Jumbotron to me. I have no idea what they call it now.

ChiefsCountry 10-25-2014 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11050128)
Its all Jumbotron to me. I have no idea what they call it now.

Its actually a bar where the old Jumbotron is.

alnorth 10-25-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11050127)
no, it wasn't

why in god's holy **** would we not pitch Herrera in the 7th?

Because we had to give up the opportunity to score a run in the 7th to make that happen.

Hootie 10-25-2014 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11050189)
Because we had to give up the opportunity to score a run in the 6th to make that happen.

let's put math on it

we had about a .05% chance to score a run with Herrera at the plate

now, you pinch hit Butler for him...

we have a 80% chance of Dyson stealing 2nd base

then we have a 27% chance of Butler getting a base hit

so we probably had close a 1 in 5 shot of scoring a run there

...and how many blown saves have H D H accounted for this postseason?

I side with Yost. Gotta start the 7th with Herrera. Good move, IMO

alnorth 10-25-2014 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11050192)
let's put math on it

we had about a .05% chance to score a run with Herrera at the plate

now, you pinch hit Butler for him...

we have a 80% chance of Dyson stealing 2nd base

then we have a 27% chance of Butler getting a base hit

so we probably had close a 1 in 5 shot of scoring a run there

...and how many blown saves have H D H accounted for this postseason?

I side with Yost. Gotta start the 7th with Herrera. Good move, IMO

That 20% of a run is a hell of a lot more valuable than any potential downside from having Finnegan start the 7th, after Herrera already pitched in the 6th.

Hootie 10-25-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11050198)
That 20% of a run is a hell of a lot more valuable than any potential downside from having Finnegan start the 7th, after Herrera already pitched in the 6th.

I totally disagree.

I like Finnegan, but his sample size is very small. He was roughed up a bit in his last appearance in the ALCS ... and this is the World Series.

Ned played it fabulously if you ask me.

alnorth 10-25-2014 01:35 PM

I would have done this: Send Herrera to the plate, tell him not to swing.

Give Dyson a "must steal" sign on the first pitch.

If Dyson is thrown out, then go to the 7th with Herrera. If Dyson does make it, I would pinch-hit for Herrera in the middle of the at-bat. (yes, you are allowed to do that even if its not an injury)

Prison Bitch 10-25-2014 01:35 PM

Our wWe was 69% and fell to 67% after Herreras strikeout. Fell again to 59% when he walked Pence to lead off the 7th. So hard to say it worked like Yost expected it. Finnegan's two outs jumped it right back to 77% and saved that decision.

The Franchise 10-25-2014 01:36 PM

Break these mother****ers.

Hootie 10-25-2014 01:37 PM

Finnegan was great and Herrera was clearly not at his best...

but I still liked how Ned played it.

It was, at worst, 50/50. There was justification for either choice.

kstater 10-25-2014 01:37 PM

Also, pitching him that second inning likely keeps him on the bench tonight.


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