Was this the end of the Geno Smith era for New York Jets?
 

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – The Geno Smith era (error?) for the New York Jets might be nearing its end.

Benched after just four series in the Jets' 43-23 home loss to the Buffalo Bills, Smith's time as starter of this 1-7 team is tenuous. He threw three interceptions and just two completions on his first 10 passes, forcing usually lax Jets head coach Rex Ryan to bench his second-year quarterback for the second time this season. Now 24 starts into his NFL career, Smith shows no signs of progress, no signs of turning into a franchise quarterback.

Instead, he struggles with fundamentals and still can't read a defense.

“We didn’t execute. We didn’t execute again. I say we [but] I’m talking about myself because it was just atrocious, the way that I started out. I never expected to start a game out like that,” Smith said. “I’ve got to make sure that I get better from that and don’t allow things like that to happen - put ourselves in those types of positions like that.”

Let's be clear that there have been plenty worse quarterbacks in the history of the NFL who have stuck around for a few seasons. And Smith did quarterback a team that went 8-8 in his rookie year last season. What Smith can't do is lead a team or win games on his own. Three interceptions on the game's first four drives shows that Smith's learning curve is perhaps steeper than anticipated.

Smith, by the looks of it, might never get there.

He came from an "Air-Raid" offense in West Virginia that masked his deficiencies. He'd throw to the hot read and let teammates like Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey rack up serious yards down the field. But on Sundays, in the face of collapsing pockets, Smith struggles with his decision-making and is pressured into poor throws. All three of his interceptions against the Bills could have been avoided.

The move to Michael Vick in Sunday's loss might show a shift amongst the coaching staff that could point the franchise in a different direction at quarterback, not just as they play out the rest of this year but moving forward.

It could be argued that the Jets haven't had a franchise quarterback – a true franchise quarterback – since Joe Namath left Broadway following the 1976 season. Yes, there has been Boomer Esiason and Vinny Testaverde and Chad Pennington since then, but the Jets have failed to groom a long-term answer under center for almost four decades now.

Smith was supposed to be that quarterback. Instead, he looks ready to be the latest failure at the position, even as the Jets don't know who will start come Week 9.

Head coach Rex Ryan wouldn't commit to Vick or Smith moving forward. Vick was 18-for-36 for 153 yards and had an interception along with two fumbles lost. Vick can improve on this performance, however. He has rarely received first-team reps this season. His 36 attempts on Sunday are the most he has had since Week 2 last year, when he was the starter with the Philadelphia Eagles. Ryan would only say about next week's decision at starting quarterback, “I have no idea, we'll look at that later.” But “later” might well cost Ryan his job.

If Ryan wants any shot to return to the Jets for a seventh season, he might need to go with Vick from here on out.

“Well, you know I wouldn’t like to repeat that, but if it does happen I have to use it to my best interest," Smith said. "I have to make it beneficial. Like I said, I never envisioned that happening because I do see myself as the starting quarterback and I honestly believe that I can turn things around myself to get this team going. But if those things do happen I have to learn from it and take those reps from the sideline and I have to do a good job of that.”

Clayanus weeps

I desperately hope he has one more game. ;)

I want to see him in arrowhead just to see clayanus's heart get ripped out.

Heart was ripped out a month ago you stupid bastard.

This is why there are real life GMs, ad people like Direck who think they are

Geno is history. He will be thrown out like trash in the same bag as Rex and their super stupid GM.

Geno Smith is as dumb as a rat. How anyone is surprised at his abysmal performance is puzzling. That there are numerous threads and thousands of posts about the black Ryan Leaf is an enigma.

Statistically he isn't even as good as Tyler ****ing Thigpen.

There's one thing we aren't considering here...

Marty Mornhinweg is his offensive coordinator.

To summarize the article, everything that Geno's detractors told the Geno Mafia about him was true down to the last letter.

Dumb as ever

Was that just before or after your tiny cock and balls were ripped off, saving civilization from more dumbassery?

Lost my genitals in the great Pioli fire of 2010

Anyone have a breakdown of the draft class from that year? we all know Fisher has turned into the pro bowler we all envisioned.

Google.com

Just curious who we SHOULD have taken since Geno nor Fisher seem worthy.

It was a terrible draft. We're only one year removed but Fisher is improving each week (and as I stated in 2013, moving him to the right was a major mistake) and no one from that draft has separated himself.

Unless you wanted Alex Ogletree, who just kicked all kinds of ass today.

:rolleyes:

Hey


Hope all is well with the health of your family

Especially the lady


Good to see your posts

Thanks, Brother.

Mother in law died in December from cancer. Wife is still struggling. My mom had a double mastectomy two months ago. Cancer, for some reason, wants to **** with my ladies.

At this point, all I can do is move forward.

Sorry to hear that.

Mom lost her twin sister to cancer a couple months ago....it's very painful to watch loved ones be hurt in different ways by cancer.

The shitty part is there's some new drugs that will probably cure CLL ( my mom's twin had this type of cancer) like 80% with no chemo.

We are damn close to a cure.

My condolences on your loss....all I can say is **** cancer in the ass with an aids tree

And I'm adding your two ladies to my prayer listt

Dane I am so GLAD to see you back here. I hope it's for good. I see you in other places, but there's NO place like home! Welcome home, bro!

Sorry to hear about this, Dane. Good thoughts headed your way for you and your family.

I know cancer all too well.

Glad you are back.

Sunday could be a day of mourning for you....

Clayanus = "dead man posting"


Where should I send flowers and a card?

Last year was a pretty rough year all around for many people... Lets catch up in a week or two...

Nice :thumb: Glad you decided to come back missed your posts.

More hilarity:

http://nypost.com/2014/10/26/bills-t...he-was-pulled/

The more film the Bills defensive players watched in the week leading up to Sunday’s 43-23 annihilation of the Jets at MetLife Stadium, the more they salivated.(Just like GoChiefs.) By the time the game started, they were itching with anticipation they were going to feast on Jets second-year quarterback Geno Smith.

And so they did.

The scouting report on Smith for two years has been he is a one-read quarterback and if the first read isn’t there, he is in trouble.

On Sunday, Smith was not even effective on his first reads, overthrowing wide-open receivers and, in the end, turning the ball over three times on interceptions in the first 10:20 of the game.

Smith (2-of-8 for 5 yards and a quarterback rating of 0.0) lasted four offensive possessions before being yanked in favor of veteran Michael Vick.

Smith was so bad the Bills were hoping the Jets would not bench him. One member of the Bills organization told The Post: “We were bummed out when they took Geno out,’’ because the pickings were becoming too easy.

“He was just eyeing down receivers,’’ said Bills linebacker Preston Brown, who got Smith’s second interception. “We saw it on film that he was just staring guys down. When we know if you do that we’re going to jump on guys’ routes, and we got some picks in the back-end with just reading his eyes.

“We had Geno rattled and we tried to stay after him.’’
Bills defensive tackle Corbin Bryant, who forced a fumble recovered by Buffalo, said Smith “from the first snap didn’t seem like he was in rhythm.

“When we see that, we’re going to be in a feeding frenzy, causing as many turnovers as we can … and we did that,’’ Bryant said.

“You could see from the very first snap [Smith] wasn’t connecting with any of his receivers and our DBs took advantage of that,’’ said Bills defensive tackle Stefan Charles, who recovered the fumble Bryant forced.

“Our main thing was to get our D-line in Geno’s face and get him rattled, make him have hot feet in the pocket so he can’t be comfortable back there,’’ said Bills linebacker Nigel Bradham, who had a forced fumble. “Fortunately, we came out hot and caused a bunch of turnovers. Vick came into the game and gave us some different looks and scrambled and we had to make some adjustments.

“When he got in there he was just running around … like the old Vick, almost.’’
The key word there was almost. After Smith threw his three interceptions, Vick also threw one and lost two fumbles.

“They came out right at the bat and got some turnovers,’’ Bills coach Doug Marrone said. “We were playing well. They made the switch at quarterback and I thought we had them at times.’’

File that as the understatement of the day. The Bills had the Jets before they left Buffalo, when they were watching tape of Smith.

More weeping and depression.

If we put a thumping on the Jets I can see Rex Ryan getting the AX on Monday.

Geno was dealt a loser's hand in New York

I take that back not Monday. The owner would come out on Monday in full support of Rex Ryan to the media. So he would be let go sometime Wednesday or Thursday after a swirl of false media reports.

All true, but don't forget no signs of a good coach anywhere.

The thing is its not all Rex Ryan's fault. They have absolutely no talent on that team Accross the board...they suck.

As far a Geno Smith being dealt a bad hand being on a bad team. If he was on a good team I think he would still suck. He often makes poor decisions and poor throws. He's part of the problem.

Yep and he is part of the problem.

I don't see why the NYJ are such a "bad team" for Geno or any QB.

Their OL is middle of the pack... they have enough talent at receiver with Decker, Harvin, Kerley, Cumberland, and Amaro. They have a top 10 in the league punch with their 2 running backs in Ivory and CJ.

Not the talent that Denver has, of course... but not complete shit by far.

They also have a top 10 defense.. more so in run defense, but there are advantages to making a team 1 dimensional.

They have plenty of talent. The issue is... they can't have infinite patience for stupidity. If Geno could simply avoid the critical dumbassery.. but he so far looks unable to. People hate Alex Smith's cautious nature.. but frankly, if Geno had some of it.. he would likely still be the starting QB of a more successful NYJ team.

That is absolutely not true.

Sorry to hear this, Dane. Truly very sorry.

But, welcome back.

Bring him in for a look?

"I admitted I was a cock sucking reerun last month bro bro, keep up with the times!"

One of the best 3-4 defensive lines in NFL history as far as I'm concerned (Wilkerson/Harrison/Richardson). Decent stable of running backs, a couple of fringe All-Pro offensive linemen with Mangold and Wilkerson, and then the new 1/2 punch of Decker and Harvin is better than most teams. They aren't making the playoffs, but to say they have no talent is pretty dumb. Having shitty Geno Smith and QB Dog Killer as your signal callers isn't helping the situation though.

You have to laugh at the chuckle heads who thought the Geno Smiff would be KC's answer at QB....they couldn't look more ignorant

Era?

Watched every pass attempt in his career at WV multiple times. I'm fine with the stance I came away with, and stick by it.

Or maybe you just suck at QB evaluation?

Not quite. But I have no reason to be ashamed by my conclusions considering the work I put in, along with many other NFL scouts who also thought Geno was a first round QB.

I guess I could've just watched the K State game and drew an entire conclusion of Geno Smith based off that one game like many other people. Or just went with whatever was being said by the media at the time and form my opinions through them. That'd be too easy though.

Well you and those scouts were wrong about Geno. It is evident that GMs across the league didn't agree with those scouts either. With the issues he showed there was no way he was worthy of the a first round pick. I didn't think he would get drafted until the 3rd round because of his issues.

He is dumber than mouse shit. Geno won't be a memory in 2 years.

He will be a memory as long as I am alive and a member of this message board...

I will not forget the dumbassery over Geno and his trolls....

The GM's had something I and the pro scouts didn't necessarily get to see. Multiple meetings and evaluations of his head wasn't something I had access to. I just had what was put on the field.

ROFL ROFL

Reerun - Claynus is borderline reeruned.

Claynus - Bah, I've been full reerun for a long time, ya big dummy!!

IF Clayanus has a learning disability then I really feel bad for picking on him...

I have always been super nice to special people, I would feel like shit if this is true.

Speaking of learning disabilities...you'd think Chiefs fans would be able to recognize the same evils being perpetrated upon them...but most of you literally don't learn. It's truly mind-bottling.

You're fine with having a dogshit passing game as long as the Chiefs are a game or two over .500.

You will have to relearn the same lesson again this January.

LOL We're fine with it?

WTF are we supposed to do about it?

You mean the January playoff game where the KC offense amassed 513 yards.. 9 of 16 3rd down conversion %, and still lost as their defense collapsed in historic fashion?

that is the lesson to relearn?

LMAO ... JFC, you suck at thinking.

this is it in a nutshell...clay has to predict and hope for negative outcomes, because it's his foundation..he has nothing without it..

...but in the meantime...he'll continue to martyr himself for the sake of your negative attention.

Was this the end of the Geno Smith era for New York Jets?
 

Are you mad that ESPN isnt covering your Jets and Geno 24x7 anymore?

Is that the lesson I am going to learn in January?

You and I are on the same side in this debate so don't act like we aren't.

I have an opinion on Alex and Candy... But they are here for the long haul so there
isnt much I can do or say about it anymore.. It is what it is....

See, this is what is truly irritating.

You drafturbators project your own obsession with the QB position and fantasy FB metrics onto us, when what you posit as our stance bears no relation to reality.

You think that 'game manager QB' is an exercise in futility. But the truth is, the APEX of relying entirely on the QB, the VERY SUMMIT of Everest, can be seen in the multiple blowouts in the SB the AFC has gifted us. Kelly's Bills, Elway's Broncos without Terrell Davis, 43-8.

It's a team game, and team problems have us at just 1 game over .500. Further, team over achievement have kept us out of the cellar. It remains to be seen whether over achievement develops into long term improvement, or how the return of injured stars figures in to additional improvement.

I completely reject your framing of the argument. I reject the notion that Smith at QB is this singular shortcoming of an otherwise championship caliber team. This team has lots of problems, and lots of promising hints popping up. And Alex is not even among the 5 biggest problems on the team.

Pointing out WR inadequacy, or OL growing pains, or shitty playcalling and clock management, or defensive implosions like last January are not Alexcuses. They are problems that even the most accomplished and prolific of QBs rarely overcome.

That's a long post. Let me boil down what is important:

If the season ended today, the Chiefs would not be in the playoffs.

OMG NO!!!!!

And if my Aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.

The Chiefs are definitely the dickless Aunts of the NFL...right on.

How do the Chiefs compare to your Jets and Geno?

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/232...ver-girl-o.gif

by which of course I mean, you are a dinosaur in the modern world.


And a broad to boot.

ROFL

Seems like their chocolate logs have dissolved into green apple splatters all over the bowl of that poor American Standard they're perched on.

The perfect description for our QB and passing attack.

Thank you.

Dude you are killing me tonight...

LMAO

You know, it occurs to me that it is entirely fair and reasonable to decree that;

if someone publicly proclaims that playoff success is the ONLY thing that matters in the NFL, they should shut their ****ing mouth about day to day or week to week developments until the playoffs actually occur.

Seems only self-evident. If what happened last week or will happen this week is so inconsequential. How much more so griping about it on the internet far far from any power to do anything about it, except irritate others needlessly.

So, 'til January Clay, don't go away mad, just go away. It's the only path to integrity.

If Alex started doing the things that = championships I wouldn't be so crabby.

Instead I'm told to be happy with 220-yard, 0 TD games.

Eric Fisher still has a shot to develop into a good LT.

Geno Smith has embarrassingly already played himself out of the NFL, essentially.

Gee, guess I don't mind we didn't spend 1.1 on him, ha.

lmao

talking about Alex's stats because he had no TD's Sunday?

He played an incredibly efficient football game. It was awesome. He was great. Who cares if he is scoring TDs through the air or if our running game is punching them in? God, that's such a dumb post.

The thing he has a history of being a guy who doesn't throw a lot of TD passes.

So when he has a 0 TD game I just nod and cry.

they have had excellent red zone TD efficiency this year

why does it matter if it's via air or run?

that's the dumbest thing I've ever read

I see a lot of people who I have had many arguments with in the Alex Smith threads calling Geno names and saying he sucks. So I have to ask you......

Why does Geno not have the luxury of getting SEVEN YEARS to prove that he could be a functional NFL Quarterback? Why have you guys written him off after a season and a half? Seems extremely hypocritical to me.

You remember when we lost two games this year because Alex couldn't throw a TD?

Yeah...

clayanus nut sack curse...

Geno wont get 7 years in the NFL...

I've had my fill of idiotic Clay tonight. So moving on. Have fun getting troll'd, everyone.

He tried so hard to be revered as a football guru here. LMAO

You can set your watch by that one. :doh!: