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ThaVirus 10-27-2014 09:57 PM

Midway through the season, who's your MVP?
 
As far as PLAYERS are concerned.

There are some very clear favorites but I figured I'd see what the Planet thought.

Reerun_KC 10-27-2014 10:01 PM

Alex Smith.

Direckshun 10-27-2014 10:01 PM

Alex Smith has only really WON us one game, in San Diego. The other three he simply didn't lose.

Houston has been fantastic, but part of that success of course comes from Hali flushing QBs off their spot. It's hard to give an MVP to one player when he's part of a system.

Charles is once again this year's MVP. He compensates for almost everything our offense lacks, and gets his stats even when teams spend a full week preparing to stop him.

He's an All Pro candidate yet again.

O.city 10-27-2014 10:03 PM

People have been shitting on him for drops, etc, but Bowe is playing pretty well right now.

He needs more targets.

Iconic 10-27-2014 10:06 PM

Houston or Charles/Kniles.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-27-2014 10:07 PM

Easy.

Tyler Bray.

Pablo 10-27-2014 10:09 PM

No clear cut one, but Charles if you make me.

penbrook 10-27-2014 10:09 PM

Charles doesn't have the numbers for a all pro so far this year

Direckshun 10-27-2014 10:10 PM

Other guys that deserve a ton of recognition from the fans:

Davis at RB -- combined with Charles, is the best rushing attack in football
Kelce at TE -- fantastic energy and athleticism on the field, perfect TE for Alex Smith
Hudson at C -- has been indispensable in the ground game this year.
Poe/Bailey/Hali -- Houston is the headliner, but all four of these players are instrumental
Mauga at ILB -- somehow has given us quality play we've desperately needed at ILB
Sean Smith -- the one spot on our entire back seven that's been consistent
Abdullah/Parker at S -- have recovered from losing Berry to becoming a strength of our defense
Colquitt -- because Colquitt

Phillip Gaines is poised for a huge 2nd half of the season. I think DAT becomes a bigger and bigger part of the team, and the OL will continue to play better together.

penbrook 10-27-2014 10:10 PM

Ron Parker. The way he's filled in for Berry and has actually done better than Berry at covering recievers is why were #1 in the NFL in pass defense

Hammock Parties 10-27-2014 10:11 PM

I'd go with Alex Smith.

As the Most Valuable Payee, he is making a shit ton of money.

TimeForWasp 10-27-2014 10:12 PM

Team play. They collectively play well for the most part. They are playing like a team. Offense helping the defense helping the the offense. Special teams helping the offense helping the defense .

In58men 10-27-2014 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 11061519)
I'd go with Alex Smith.

As the Most Valuable Payee, he is making a shit ton of money.

I started to cut my wrist, but then I kept reading.

Direckshun 10-27-2014 10:17 PM

If players could share it, I think Hali/Houston/Poe/Bailey deserve it over Charles.

But not by much.

jonzie04 10-27-2014 10:21 PM

I think its knile Davis. He carried us through dark times, and was the spark that started it all. I accredit him for winning the dolphins game, I accredit him for the long drives against Denver, keeping 5 head off the field, and putting our team in position for the win. And he was the MVP of the rams game, he took the wind right out of their sails with his Kr td. And then proceeded to maul them to close the game out.

Cases could be made for other players though.

Rain Man 10-27-2014 10:23 PM

I like the fact that this team isn't purely driven by one player.

I'd probably go with Charles just because he's been superb in every phase of every game this year other than the one injury. I'm amazed at how well he catches and blocks. He's the ultimate player.

Smith came close to my vote, and a good argument can be made for Houston, too.

I'm guessing that Zach Fulton is our rookie of the year. The guy walked in, became a starter immediately, and has played well.

Direckshun 10-27-2014 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11061533)
I think its knile Davis. He carried us through dark times, and was the spark that started it all. I accredit him for winning the dolphins game, I accredit him for the long drives against Denver, keeping 5 head off the field, and putting our team in position for the win. And he was the MVP of the rams game, he took the wind right out of their sails with his Kr td. And then proceeded to maul them to close the game out.

Cases could be made for other players though.

Actually, a surprisingly strong case could be made for Davis, now that you've laid it out.

Pablo 10-27-2014 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11061538)
Actually, a surprisingly strong case could be made for Davis, now that you've laid it out.

Yeah, I could see it.

Reerun_KC 10-27-2014 10:33 PM

Candy Reid. Play calling and clock management skills are off the charts.

notorious 10-27-2014 10:40 PM

Who is the one player you take off this team and we start losing games?


Gulp, Alex Smith.

Direckshun 10-27-2014 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11061557)
Who is the one player you take off this team and we start losing games?

Gulp, Alex Smith.

Hm.

Probably true.

So that begs the question that we always seem to ask -- what does MVP mean?

The most indispensable player? The player who's played the best? The player who's been most instrumental in our wins?

Because the answer to those three questions, on this team, are all different players. (Smith, Poe, and Charles, respectively.)

Psyko Tek 10-27-2014 10:51 PM

COLQUIT IS ALWAYS MVP

srvy 10-27-2014 11:08 PM

Of the choices Alex Smith. But really its the offensive line. On paper it should be terrible but they are creating holes to run and giving Alex enough time. I honestly thought Smith would be in traction by now. John Dorcey really deserves recognition for this and Andy and crew getting them up to speed has been amazing.

Mav 10-28-2014 01:34 AM

Abdullah. What He has done being the anti Kendrick has been nothing short of amazing.

Lzen 10-28-2014 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 11061517)
Ron Parker. The way he's filled in for Berry and has actually done better than Berry at covering recievers is why were #1 in the NFL in pass defense

I love the way Ron Parker is playing. But Berry was very good at covering last year as I recall.

The MVP this year is..........




wait for it.........

























Kendrick Lewis


For simply being gone. :D

Molitoth 10-28-2014 08:12 AM

Wow.... I chose Alex Smith. He is the most VALUABLE player on this team right now.

Charles has had some underwhelming games this first half, and some of his value is negated by how good Knile Davis value is becoming.

Justin Houston has been working it, but if you take him off the roster I don't just see the Chiefs all of a sudden getting their asses kicked. You remove Alex Smith and his stability? Chiefs could be done. Or they could have a new QBotF just waiting to bust out...

But yeah, to this point it has been Alex Checkdown Smith.
Pretty sad to say. We need an overhaul at the WR position.

Molitoth 10-28-2014 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 11061595)
Of the choices Alex Smith. But really its the offensive line. On paper it should be terrible but they are creating holes to run and giving Alex enough time. I honestly thought Smith would be in traction by now. John Dorcey really deserves recognition for this and Andy and crew getting them up to speed has been amazing.

are you ****ing kidding me? Alex Smith has been running for his life all season long. Take away the shiftiness of our RB's and these guys have nothing.

This line sucks.

Saul Good 10-28-2014 08:16 AM

It's Houston by a mile.

jd1020 10-28-2014 08:17 AM

Justin Houston has gotten a sack in every game this year except 1.

Alex Smith survives by throwing swing passes, screens, and 5 yard slants.

No ****ing way is Alex the MVP of this team while leading one of the worst passing offenses in the league.

The Iron Chief 10-28-2014 08:59 AM

Its a good problem when you actually have to think about who the MVP is.
I made the mistake of watching a couple of videos just now.
The so called experts pointing out how valuable Justin Houston has been game in and game out...
and well they're right.
The only pause I have is the whole exactly what is an MVP subject.
Which player if removed would be the hardest to get by without.
That would be Alex Smith.
Smith does a lot more than hand off to our RB's no matter how some want to preach that.
And at the same time I do Not think hes a so called Elite QB.
Top 15..yes.

At any rate I voted for Justin Houston
Smith and Knile honorary mention.
Knile may have saved our season when JC was out.
He helped the team continue as planned instead of WTF do we do now.
And I'm willing to bet each game going forward there will be a KNILE DAVIS!!.. moment.

Steron 10-28-2014 09:28 AM

Houston for me.

Easy 6 10-28-2014 09:31 AM

The single most dominant player on either side of the ball right now is easily Houston.

TLO 10-28-2014 09:34 AM

Houston

Just Passin' By 10-28-2014 09:34 AM

Smith's the Chiefs offensive MVP
Poe is the Chiefs defensive MVP



Smith gets the overall nod because of the QB bump.

jkw87 10-28-2014 10:43 AM

Knile Davis because of his special teams contribution and being a Damn good replacement while Charles was injured. He's either deflated a teams Sails or carried the team on his back at least twice this year

srvy 10-28-2014 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 11062029)
are you ****ing kidding me? Alex Smith has been running for his life all season long. Take away the shiftiness of our RB's and these guys have nothing.





This line sucks.



No I'm not kidding you. Smith needs to realize he wont have 6 seconds to make a decision with this makeshift bunch. You don't get walk in untouched holes at the goal line in the NFL or bust 40 yarders untouched at the LOS unless your line is doing something well.

Has there been breakdowns yes. But we had them with Vermeils world class O line getting Green concussed. A lot of our problems have happened when Davis is in backfield. He hasn't learned protections well yet. A simple chip often could have made the difference between a sack and a play downfield.

Marcellus 10-28-2014 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11062040)
Justin Houston has gotten a sack in every game this year except 1.

Alex Smith survives by throwing swing passes, screens, and 5 yard slants.

No ****ing way is Alex the MVP of this team while leading one of the worst passing offenses in the league.

So you think Booger or the rookie would have us at 4 wins right now.

Playing QB entails more than just flinging it. We are top 5 in 3rd down conversions and Smith has made plays when needed for the most part. How many first downs with his legs has he created?

You are just another guy who cares about nothing but FF stats.

And I voted for JC by the way.

jd1020 10-28-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11062449)
So you think Booger or the rookie would have us at 4 wins right now.

Playing QB entails more than just flinging it. We are top 5 in 3rd down conversions and Smith has made plays when needed for the most part. How many first downs with his legs has he created?

You are just another guy who cares about nothing but FF stats.

And I voted for JC by the way.

Why not? He did what Alex did last season in almost beating the Chargers. If Daniel couldn't sit back and watch Charles, Kelce, DAT take his LoS deep passes for TDs and first downs while also handing the ball off to Charles and Davis then he has no business being on the roster.


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