Dexter mcluster not the weapon advertised.
 

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He sure pwned Clayanus while he was here... Good times, thanks Dex for the beat downs...

In all honesty I don't think he's in a situation to succeed. Or being used in a way that maximizes what little ability he has. But he's definately not 3yr 9mil good.

McCluster is a utility player, not the focal point of an offense.

With that said, do the Titans have any offensive players that are legit weapons?

With guys like Charlie Whitehurst and Zack Metteinberger it's not exactly surprising that their perimeter players are struggling.

Just goes to show that Whisenhunt really isnt very good, Dex was an All Pro returner for us and also did ok on some short passing routes and draw plays... they arent using him right.

You have to be creative with that guy and Wiz just isnt creative.

He's looking for his Danny Woodhead, but he doesn't have a Phillip Rivers spreading the ball around for him anymore.

The titans have good wrs on the outside. Dex is a jag

dexter mccluster is, was, and always will be a huge waste of a 2nd round pick

And is still a better 2nd round pick than most taken in the 2nd round of his class.

Let it go.

Justin Hunter and Delanie Walker are certainly good for their pass game.

Dex is okay... never worth a 2nd rd pick.. but a guy that should be a role player making a mil per yr.

There is nothing wrong with mccluster. There is something wrong with the idiots using him.

Mccluster became an excellent hands receiver. The decision to move him back into a utility role was beyond stupid. Put him back into a slot and think of him as a receiver instead of a gadget receiver, and he will be an effective receiver for your team.

Yep.

I mean, the All Pro designation holds so much more weight to me than Pro Bowl because AP is voted by the players, not a bunch of idiot fans... so for Dex to make that grade says a lot.

But he has to be used the right way to reach that level... the Titans just plain suck all the way around, bad QB's, stodgy and unimaginative coach... the works.

I wish Dex the best, you never heard any whining from him in the press and he DID provide us with some great, game changing plays eventually... no matter what the needlessly hateful folks want to say, making All Pro is a genuine accomplishment.

Whats funny here, is me defending the guy... I remember just ripping him a new ass and laughing like crazy when that old lady gave him the business during the Christmas visit. "Well you boys better start playing better" LMAO

But he improvised, adapted and overcame... good on him.

Oh boy! Another McCluster thread!








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Actually no...lots of better options in that round as has been proven.

Yep. He could be a good CFL player.

In the NFL, dime a dozen.

He had one season in KC in which he was more of a help than he was a hindrance, and even then he was easily replaced by DeAnthony Thomas out of the backfield. Soon we'll be able to line up Thomas in the slot on more downs.

****, Joe ****ing McKnight's game against the Dolphins was the kind of game that Haley envisioned when he drafted McCluster. And that was better than any game we've ever seen out of McCluster.

Dex is by far my 2nd most hated Chief of the Pioli era, and for a good reason. Worthless ****stick midget reerun.

HOW

DID WE LOSE TO THE TITANS

Man, if you want to talk about total GM ownage of Dorsey over Pioli, look no further than Dorsey's scrap heap FA completely replacing Pioli's vaunted 2nd rounder.

He was drafted too high. But he's not a bad player. Good role player that can occasionally give you a big play. DAT will fill his role here and be so much better. Can't wait to see him really shine in our offense.

I agree 100% about Thomas and McKnights effort and I'm glad to have/have had both of them over Dex, but you're kinda discounting that 2013 season he had.

Huge returns and multiple, crucial chain moving catches, and of course that one Moeaki-like leaping endzone grab, THAT was a classic... c'mon man, we've moved on, theres no need to hate on the guy, just be classy and recognize what he accomplished in one season of a new regime/scheme.

Why do you hate him that much? I get that he was drafted too high and that's more of a knock on Pioli than anyone else. But I can think of several players from the shit Pioli era that I hate way more.

ITT:

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If you're gonna be a good role player type of guy, you should be good to the community and the fans. McCluster was definitely that and more.

All he did was market market market. He flipped the script to Titans shit instantly. All he wanted to do was sell DMC shirts.

Yeah he does that. I don't blame him. He seems like a good dude though. Not that that makes him a better or worse player, but I do respect it.

Sucked and always will suck.

I think Andy thought it was a 5th preseason game.

Titans watched highlight films, not game films when they gave him that contract.

Do you want the list? Or just a general explanation?

Whatever you feel like I guess.

He was slow and couldn't make people miss.

Thank ****ing goodness he is with another team. Think about it: We replaced JAG with De'Anthony Thomas.

They already have afar superior slot receiver in Wright, why would they move him out for McCluster?

1. He was a ****ing awful and ill-timed pick in 2010, and everybody and their ****ing grandmother knew this except for Pioli and Haley. Jamaal Charles had just shown what he could do if you just gave him the damn ball. We had just signed Thomas Jones. We had dudes on the roster who could be kick returners no problem. He NEVER ****ing fit on this team

2. That being said, this franchise operated under the false notion that if you just got him the ball in space, he'd be effective. Well no ****ing shit. If you gave the ball to Mike ****ing DeVito in space, HE would be effective. The point is that the "space" they could find was always on the outside edge as a bubble screen or out of the backfield. Which leads me to...

3. He ****ing sucked getting out of trouble. He was easily tackled if you got a finger on him. He WASN'T even that fast. Jamaal Charles had far more breakaway speed and at least 18 times the vision as a ballcarrier. He had okay hands, which is why we thought he'd make a decent slot receiver, but he never ****ing learned that position until Andy Reid came to town, and even then, it was as a possession guy on 3rd down out of the slot. NOT as the downfield burner to complement Dwayne Bowe, which Haley and Pioli thought he could learn to be.

4. Haley's offense sucked for many reasons, but most of that had to do with idiotic ****ing plays DESIGNED to get McCluster the ball. It took touches away from Charles and Bowe... the two best players in the division at the time of getting yards after the catch/carry, and gave them to this overrated worthless midget who would 90% of the time get tackled in the backfield like a ****ing chump loser asshole. And the play was DRAWN UP that way. That's the only way we could ever get McCluster the ball was in his SPECIAL ****ING PLAY 4 or 5 times per game. He was never there to try to bail out Cassel or be an option to turn to when we needed him like a good receiver/playmaker SHOULD be.

In summary, we HAD what we were looking for out of McCluster in Jamaal Charles. Everybody knew it in 2010 when the pick was made. Except for Pioli and Haley. He represents everything clueless and blind about that Patriot Way regime just like Cassel does. McCluster embodied it perfectly. He was Pioli's bullshit boy ENTITLED to X touches a game because the idiots on the coaching staff and in the front office never stopped believing in the McCluster myth.

And that's ****ing infuriating.

I thought he would be good after watching him in college.


Holy shit was I wrong.

are Stanford Routt and Jon Baldwin tied for first?

He made All Pro, everything else is just empty shit being thrown around like some angry monkey.

SNR, you're right that he had to be schemed into offensive success... but dont deny that once a good staff came aboard, he produced at an All Pro level, I mean, I totally agree that we're better off these days.

But you're blaming the player for his draft position, that isnt fair at all... particularly when you consider that in his third year he made the ultimate list.

SNR, out-crotchetying Milkman since 2014.

Mike Brown?

Ryan O'Callaghan?

Andy Studebaker?

Bobby Wade?

Tony Moeaki?

Javier Arenas?

He had a big fourth quarter catch in almost every game the second half of the season. Some really tough ones too. His hands were surprisingly excellent. Once the chiefs stopped using him as a gadget and started using him as a possession receiver, he played excellent. If he was playing hemmingways role this year, he would be an excellent option for kc.

Whisenhunt wants him to be randle el. He needs to be Ricky proehl.

You're ignoring all the times I observed last season that Andy Reid finally figured out what to do with him as a 3rd down short-mid possession receiver out of the slot. That doesn't in any way shape or form relate to designed plays, trickery out of the backfield, or relying on "speed." Reid figured out that McCluster had average speed, a silly-looking spin move, and that's it, so he used him in a way that made him actually useful to the team for once in his shitty career.

Now Whisenhunt is copying Haley's ineffective gameplan for McCluster. He's trying to re-Todd.

Never go full re-Todd

Coulda had Arrelious Benn

We've been over this.

McCluster was maybe the 10th best player in that round.

We don't miss him at ALL.

Nate Allen
T.J. Ward
Koa Misi
Rob Gronkowski
Lamarr Houston
Zane Beadles
Golden Tate
Carlos Dunlap
Ben Tate
Brandon Spikes

All those guys would have more value to this team right now.

I also find it hilarious our third down offense is MUCH better without him. The guy was basically useless at everything but exciting the fan base over bullshit.

LMAO Pioli is a train wreck.

That's like justifying the Tyson Jackson pick by saying, "Could have had Aaron Curry."

I was making fun of Clay

No matter what narrative Clay wants everyone to believe, you know, with his great football mind (lololololol)...

Dexter was actually a good 2nd round pick for us. We certainly got 2nd round value out of him.

I realize the drafturbators still live in this alternate reality where every 2nd rounder should make multiple pro bowls, but that's not even close to the case.

Dex was a good pick. Pioli had a lot of surprisingly good picks. It's just too bad (for him, not us) he hung his hat on Cassel and he was a complete prick the entire time...because he'd probably make a pretty good GM if he wasn't such an arrogant prick who felt the need to be right about everything.

No he wasn't.

Look at who we could have had.

The guy was the #36 pick and never came close to being a viable starter.

That's horrendous ****ing value. You need to get a starter with that pick. And 50 stupid dumpoff catches doesn't change that.

Dexter was the only man in KC that could cause a select few males to bleed from their vaginas on command.

Worthless player unless you wanted to clownsuit clayanus. Then he was gold.

We got 4th round value in the 2nd round with Mr. Dumpoff Q. Not-A-Playmaker.

That is a fact.

No, no you don't.

You guys have really inflated expectations from 2nd round picks.

The only thing Count was right about was 5 guys restaurant Jeez they suck ass.

A 2nd round pick should develop into a starter, ideally. Doesn't have to be a Pro Bowler, but you'd like a solid starter from that pick.

Dexter developed into a terrible slot receiver and decent punt returner.

You are wrong.

You know who was a good pick in the 2nd round by Pioli?

Rodney Hudson.

What is he?

A solid starter.

I rest my case.

Wasn't dexter an all pro/probowler?

CP wanted Benn Cody and some other guy the Ravens took but can't remember his name. All turds.

he was fine for where he was picked. Who would you have picked? Only 5 players out of 32 in the 2010 2nd round were ever Pro Bowlers and Dex was one of them. Thats about average for 2nd round players.

Good 2nd round picks by the Chiefs:

Reggie Tongue, Kawika Mitchell, Tim Grunhard, Brandon Flowers, Bernard Pollard.

Shitty, awful, ****ing repugnant 2nd rounders:

Turk McBride, Junior Siavii, Kris Wilson, William Bartee, Mike Cloud, Dex

Oh it was Sergio Kindle and the Ravens had a HOF level Draft by getting him and Mush Cody ROFL ROFL

Nate Allen
T.J. Ward
Koa Misi
Rob Gronkowski
Lamarr Houston
Zane Beadles
Golden Tate
Carlos Dunlap
Ben Tate
Brandon Spikes

> Dexter

Don't bring up "Pro Bowler" as a defense.

He had one good season as a punt returner and got rewarded for that. Mostly because of our ST blocking.

This year he has 13 returns for 95 yards. LMAO

Yeah, Pro Bowl punt returner for sure!

Saffold
Chris Cook
Brian Price
Dex
Nate Allen
T.J. Ward
Benn
Misi
Torell Troup
Gronk
Kindle
Lamarr Houston
Beadles
Linval Joseph
Daryl Washington
Clausen
Taylor Mays !!!
Javier Arenas
Gerhart
Worilds
Jermaine Cunningham
Carlos Dunlap
Sean Lee
Mike Neal
Terrence Cody
Ben Tate
Montario Hardesty
Golden Tate
Vladimir Ducasse
Brandon Spikes
Pat Angerer
Charles Brown

...so uh, yeah. Stop complaining. We got perfectly fine value from Dexter McCluster.

so what about the other 21 guys drafted in the 2nd round?

Nobody is arguing he some all world talent anymore. He was prefectly fine for where he was picked. He was productive and helped the team. Thats better than you can say for the majority of 2nd round picks.

Probably shitty picks like Dex.

If the pick doesn't develop into a regular starter you missed, period. You don't look for goddamn average as **** role players in the 2nd. You look for a starter. Like Brandon Flowers. Or at least goddamn Zane Beadles.

So then he was better than you thought as you brought up they don't even have to be a pro bowler

one time Hamas Jenkins almost killed a man when we traded a future 7th round pick to acquire a 7th round pick only to spend it on Jake O'Connell

...that's what kind of lofty expectations CP has for draft picks

they are so insanely unrealistic it's funny

Reminded me of a 4th round talent.

He was Pioli's Mike Cloud or Kevin Lockett.

He had one good season as a punt returner. That doesn't justify the pick.

Wanting a solid starter in the 2nd round is not lofty.

That's the norm.

Brandon Flowers was an INCREDIBLE 2nd round pick.

So every 2nd round pick is a flop if it isn't INCREDIBLE.

Noted.

You continue to be really, really, really dumb. Too bad I couldn't bump that Eli Manning thread we discussed years ago (it's locked). You have a fantastic tradition of being among the dumbest football posters on this board.

Keep up the consistent work.

In any manner, dexter was awful. Albert Wilson an udfa, will probably be better.

We have a great coaching staff now so they make shitty players look better. Aka, dexter

Only on CP where every pick should be a 10 year starter and potential Hall of Famer.

Zane Beadles isn't incredible.

Good pick.

Bernard Pollard isn't incredible.

Good pick.

Try to keep up.

you have a 50/50 shot of landing a 2nd round pick as good as Dex

you have a 25/75 shot of landing a SOLID STARTER in the 2nd round

you have a 10/90 shot of landing Brandon Flowers

I think you normally have good football takes hootie, but not here. 2nd round picks need to be better than a 50 50 shot.

3rd or 4th round I agree

Starters get drafted in the 2nd round.

STARTERS.

**** you Hootie, you are wrong.

so we're pining for Bernard Pollard with our 2nd round picks over guys like Dex

a guy who has been cut by 3 different teams

he's a pretty good 2nd round pick, too

right in the Dexter McCluster tier