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Direckshun 11-16-2014 06:11 AM

You pick the Chiefs 1st rounder.
 
Assuming we pick at 23 again this year.

1. Oakland Raiders: DT Leonard Williams, USC
2. Jacksonville Jaguars: DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon
4. New York Jets: QB Jameis Winston, Florida State
5. Tennessee Titans: CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State
6. Atlanta Falcons: DE Shayne Ray, Missouri
7. Washington Redskins: OT Andrus Peat, Stanford
8. Chicago Bears: SS Landon Collins, Alabama
9. New York Giants: DE Shawn Oakman, Baylor
10. St. Louis Rams: CB PJ Williams, Florida State
11. Carolina Panthers: OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson
12. Houston Texans: WR Amari Cooper, Alabama
13. Minnesota Vikings: LB Shaq Thompson, Michigan State
14. Miami Dolphins: WR Kevin White, West Virginia
15. San Diego Chargers: NT Eddie Goldman, Florida State
16. Cleveland Browns: DE Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida State
17. San Francisco 49ers: OT Brandon Scherff, Iowa
18. Cincinnati Bengals: CB Marcus Peters, Washington
19. Cleveland Browns: WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma
20. Seattle Seahawks: NT Danny Shelton, Washington
21. New Orleans Saints: OT La'el Collins, LSU
22. Pittsburgh Steelers: OLB Shilique Calhoun, Michigan State
23. Kansas City Chiefs: ???

Direckshun 11-16-2014 06:45 AM

I really can't see any situation at this point where the Chiefs can't just pick the WR they like the best.

DL doesn't make any sense as of yesterday.
OLB doesn't make sense in the 1st round
OT makes some sense, but the 1st is too early
DB doesn't make much sense with the emergence of Gaines

bsp4444 11-16-2014 07:20 AM

DeVante Parker would complete our offense, and hopefully give Alex Smith enough confidence to open it up.

John Dope 11-16-2014 09:48 AM

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Coochie liquor 11-16-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 11113863)

Haven't seen you on here in a while. Or am I mistaken?

OldSchool 11-16-2014 11:10 AM

Parker without any hesitation. He's going to be a beast.

ILChief 11-16-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11114048)
Parker without any hesitation. He's going to be a beast.

This is my thought as well. I think we may have to move up

Saccopoo 11-16-2014 12:41 PM

Parker can't get off the line.

You can get that same guy in round four.

Saccopoo 11-16-2014 12:58 PM

**** Dontari Poe.

I'd draft Danny Shelton and Direckshun's mock in this thread can rape itself with a toilet brush.

OldSchool 11-16-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11114747)
Parker can't get off the line.

You can get that same guy in round four.

Yeah, tell that to FSU's DBs.

RunKC 11-16-2014 04:20 PM

Alex Carter CB Stanford and I don't blink twice.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...gXxlh9qoaJamAt

This guy has about the same speed in every facet as Phillip Gaines, but he's about 10 lbs heavier with a lot more muscle.

Chris Owens sucks. Marcus Cooper is so terrible he can't even get on the field. Jamell Fleming is JAG and should be depth. So basically we have 2 guys right now. Ron Parker still struggling at times.
Add him and I'll feel really good. Move Parker back to Safety full time. He's far better there.

You don't pass on these guys.

Plenty of options for a WR rd 2 including:

Nelson Agholor
Rashad Greene
Ty Montgomery
Stefon Diggs
Antwan Goodley

RealSNR 11-16-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11115022)
**** Dontari Poe.

I'd draft Danny Shelton and Direckshun's mock in this thread can rape itself with a toilet brush.

What's it like being a reerun?

Asking for a friend.

jonzie04 11-16-2014 04:25 PM

with peat gone, and parker still there im taking parker.

though ogbuehi and mckinny are VERY tempting.

Direckshun 11-16-2014 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11115022)
**** Dontari Poe.

I'd draft Danny Shelton and Direckshun's mock in this thread can rape itself with a toilet brush.

Holy shit.

Gino-Bartali 11-17-2014 06:12 AM

AJ Cann plays for the Gamecocks, not Alabama.

Eric Kendricks or Devin Funchess/Rashad Green if you ask me.

John Dope 11-17-2014 03:29 PM

DJ will be the cap casualty imo. McKinney has Dorsey written all over him. We won't take a WR in the bottom of the first. Can't see Dorsey doing that. Maybe in the second or third but not down there. He likes LBers, DJ will get cut, and he likes the BPA. It's likely McKinney will be the pick imo.

ToxSocks 11-17-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 11121538)
DJ will be the cap casualty imo. McKinney has Dorsey written all over him. We won't take a WR in the bottom of the first. Can't see Dorsey doing that. Maybe in the second or third but not down there. He likes LBers, DJ will get cut, and he likes the BPA. It's likely McKinney will be the pick imo.

DJ doesn't make the kind of $$$ to be worth a cap casualty.

John Dope 11-17-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11121693)
DJ doesn't make the kind of $$$ to be worth a cap casualty.

He gets paid $5.25 million and we'd get 100% of it back. No dead money...

http://overthecap.com/player/derrick-johnson/498/

Hoover 11-17-2014 05:42 PM

The Chiefs have not drafted a QB in the first round in how long? I'm told that why we have not won a playoff game since 1993 or something like that.

That said DeVante Parker all day.

Hoover 11-17-2014 05:43 PM

If it looks like DJ is not going to be back at 100% I just don't see how you can keep him around.

Sandy Vagina 11-17-2014 07:29 PM

Devante Parker would be my choice, but I'd be just as happy with Jaelen Strong.

RealSNR 11-17-2014 07:39 PM

Ten bucks says McKinney just turns into another Joe Mays

O.city 11-17-2014 07:40 PM

I'm thinking Funchess would be pretty good

Saccopoo 11-17-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11122179)
Ten bucks says McKinney just turns into another Joe Mays

You're on.

OldSchool 11-17-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11122179)
Ten bucks says McKinney just turns into another Joe Mays

Agreed. The guy looks terrible in space.

Molitoth 11-18-2014 03:27 PM

What great options for a team needing a RB this year.

Hopefully none of those RB's end up going to the Chargers.

John Dope 11-19-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11122179)
Ten bucks says McKinney just turns into another Joe Mays

Says the guy who took Geno #1 overall. LOL

I see McKinney as the second coming Brian Cox. Basically, he's Joe Mays on steroids. Also, he doesn't need to be great in coverage imo. He just needs to be competent (which he is). He is in the mold of Brandon Spikes but will be better.

Frosty 11-19-2014 03:26 PM

Jaelen Strong for me. He'd be a perfect fit for this offense, imo.

ChiefsCountry 11-19-2014 07:36 PM

Going by BPA the answer is simple its Todd Gurley.

If he is still hurt it would be one hell of insight by the franchise. With Alex Smith you need an elite running game. Redshirt Gurley for a year, that will put Charles at age 30. Probably time to get rid of him by then, and you replace him with another elite running back.

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-19-2014 07:53 PM

Who's the best TE out there ? Smith don't need no stinkin WR's

kccrow 11-19-2014 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 11126930)
Who's the best TE out there ? Smith don't need no stinkin WR's

Best all-around to me is Heuerman out of Ohio State, very much like Kelce.

RealSNR 11-19-2014 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by John Dope (Post 11126456)
Says the guy who took Geno #1 overall. LOL

I see McKinney as the second coming Brian Cox. Basically, he's Joe Mays on steroids. Also, he doesn't need to be great in coverage imo. He just needs to be competent (which he is). He is in the mold of Brandon Spikes but will be better.

Yeah, and weren't you banging the table for Manti Te'o?

At least my guy was a QB, and he'd be in a FAR different position in KC, not forced to start his rookie year and also placed with a head coach like Andy Reid.

Saccopoo 11-20-2014 03:10 PM

Being totally serious, these are the guys I'd consider with our first rounder:

Sammie Coates, WR; Auburn: 6'2", 205 lb.
- Ridiculous fast with great size/muscle definition. Is raw like sushi, but the tools are there. Reminds me a lot of Demaryius Thomas at the same stage.

Nate Orchard, OLB; Utah: 6'4", 255 lb.
- Leads the NCAA's in sacks in the 2014 season with 17 to date. Exceptional athlete who is also very good in coverage. I don't care if they took Dee Ford last year. Orchard is the real deal and has been absolutely destroying offenses this season. Unblockable right now and he'd have nearly twice as many sacks if Utah didn't drop him back as much as they do. A very long and lean 6'4", 255 lb. Very smart, vocal team leader.

PJ Williams, CB; Florida State: 6'1", 195 lb.
- Dude looks absolutely pro right now. As smooth and fluid as you will ever see at the college level at defensive back. Because of his fluidity, he doesn't look fast, but then you watch the games and he's stride for stride with every guy, every play.

Benardrick McKinney, LB; Mississippi State: 6'5", 255 lb.
- Ben is getting the "thumper" MLB tag a lot right now, but that's an inaccurate description. He is used all over the field at all LB positions (even DE), and is exceptional at rushing the passer. Fills lanes in a hurry and is nasty when he gets to the ball. Very athletic for a guy his size. Offers a lot of versatility in the defenses Sutton has been putting on the field this season.

Danny Shelton, DT; Washington: 6'2", 340 lb.
- Okay, here's the deal - Dontari Poe is going to be a very, very expensive free agent come 2016. Dorsey covers his ass in such situations (e.g., Ford). I also feel that, while Poe is having his unit continually slurped upon by the Chiefs Planet masses, is not ultimately effective as a two-gapping NT. He gets stood up and re-routed by a single OL. A lot. Danny Shelton is basically the same guy, but better than Poe at the same stage. He is absolutely obliterating offensive lines in 2014. Leads college football in forced fumbles, has 16 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks so far. While being double teamed every single play. Against PAC-12 teams. Maybe you work out a deal with Dontari. Maybe Dorsey decides to upgrade the position and draft Shelton.

Eddie Goldman, DT; Florida State: 6'4", 320 lb.
- Goldman is a beast. Played DE for the national champions last season, but moved inside for the 2014 season. Go ask Auburn what they think of Goldman. Or Clemson. If the Chiefs can work out a deal with Poe, a guy like Goldman filling DeVito's slot (if he can't come back from the achilles) would be ideal. Sure, you'll hear people say that the Chiefs run a lot of two down defensive linemen sets, and they do. But if DeVito can't come back, there are just a bunch of guys at that position. Goldman isn't "just a guy." Strong, mean and quick. Kind of a combination of DeVito and Bailey.

RealSNR 11-20-2014 03:33 PM

McKinney is getting that label because he already struggles at times in stopping off tackle runs and outlet passes from the backfield.

He's a bad mixture of not quite being crafty enough or fast enough for those things. And his coverage skills suck dick, too.

I think he'll be more than a thumper in the pros, but to expect him to be the next great 3-4 ILB is really quite a stretch.

OldSchool 11-20-2014 03:43 PM

Sac, are you reeruned? You said McKinney isn't a thumper and then you just described what a thumper does. McKinney is a downhill thumper who is mediocre in space and even worse when asked to cover someone.

Saccopoo 11-20-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11128801)
McKinney is getting that label because he already struggles at times in stopping off tackle runs and outlet passes from the backfield.

He's a bad mixture of not quite being crafty enough or fast enough for those things. And his coverage skills suck dick, too.

I think he'll be more than a thumper in the pros, but to expect him to be the next great 3-4 ILB is really quite a stretch.

I don't think he's the next great, but he does offer some versatility and he's a pretty good player. I think he offers more than what we currently have on roster.

He's not going to replace DJ. He's filling in that other LB spot where the Chiefs have had a pretty big hole for a long time now and I think he'd do it quite well.

And he's an insurance policy in case an OLB goes down. He's pretty solid in getting to the QB from the edge.

Saccopoo 11-20-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11128823)
Sac, are you reeruned? You said McKinney isn't a thumper and then you just described what a thumper does. McKinney is a downhill thumper who is mediocre in space and even worse when asked to cover someone.

No, I'm not. Are you?

He's currently playing that role for the Bulldogs. Because he's getting a lot of press right now, and deservedly so, people who haven't seen games but are just formulating opinion based on his size or what they see in highlights are thinking that's all he is - a thumper. But he's a very good athlete than can effectively drop into coverage and rush the passer. I don't know if you've watched any MSU games or not, but he does drop and rush quite a bit during every game.

You're busting on a guy who's going to end up first team All-American on every single list there is. Most likely, defensive player of the year in the SEC as well. A guy who has already been named first team Freshman All-American by everyone. All-Conference in the SEC twice. Best player on the best defense in college football. But you think he sucks. Okay.

Sandy Vagina 11-20-2014 04:50 PM

My girl is a Miss State grad, and I have not missed a game of theirs in recent years. I don't claim to be a draft guru, but I do pay close attention to college ball, and most that know me know this.

All of that said, I do not think McKinney sucks.. but I can also be honest in saying that I don't get the hype that surrounds him. He has not often been a player that has stood out. If anything, their sophomore LB Beniquez Brown has stood out more to me this year.

All of this is not to suggest that McKinney sucks or isn't good. He is a solid player.. but unless he tears it up at the Combine, and gets hyped throughout that process.. I just can't understand taking him in the first 50 picks.

edit: I should add that while he can play in a zone just fine, he isn't a LB that you want covering one on one in space.


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