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2001 XJ, won't turn over. Electric works. Took it to a shop I thought I trusted yesterday who said the starter was bad and replaced it. Picked it up and brought it home last night. Just went out to run some errands and it won't turnover, same thing, electric fine just won't start.

Any thoughts on what's wrong with it? This thing has been stolen a few times in the past, ignition maybe?

Did I totally get jobbed on replacing the starter yesterday?

***it's an aids thing, I completely understand***
***off road through an antifreeze puddle***

paging Radar....

Engine needs fuel, air, spark. Check for spark at a plug. You have that, and it isn't electrical. I don't know about "newer" jeeps. Mine is 68 years old. Not sure what '01 jeeps have as far as fuel systems. surely not carbureted?

I wouldn't get it... it's a Jeep thing.

Trade it in to hometeam and buy a boring honda civic.

Ignition starter switch or the Neutral Safety Switch. NSS is expensive as hell. Can be self reconditioned if you are comfortable doing so.

Is there air in the tires?



- and thus commences the entirety of my knowledge of fixing cars. Send more questions to sully@idon'tknowagoddamnedthing.com

trade it in for an older jeep. One you can work on yourself.

Sounds like penguinz already has this one nailed down.

My poor niece. The BIL bought her a VW Bug and first time out driving by herself she goes to fill it up. She grabs the green handled gas pump but is confused because it doesn’t fit so some “friendly older guy” in a work truck tells her that some of these foreign cars are like that and holds the flap open with a screw driver so she can pour Diesel down the filler neck. The car makes it home before it starts coughing, sputtering and falling on its face. Expensive oops, had to drain the gas tank and flush the fuel lines, her dad was not pleased. “What part of holding the flap open with a screw driver seemed normal to you?!” ROFL

OK.
I know enough than to try and fill up with diesel. So I've got that going for me.

CaliforniaChief probably has better odds of re-plumbing Oakland Coliseum than I do of fixing this myself.

Was replacing the starter logical, or was that bullshit? I'm just trying to get some insight before I take it back up there to have them look at it again.

Should have bought one of them foreign jobs.....

What I would do if I were you:

Go up there and grab the guy who worked on your car by the collar and pull him real close and say "You sir are a person of questionable character. Now are you going to fix this or are you just yelluh?"

You near JasonsAuto? He'll treat you right.

I'm betting it's the bold. I had a car with a manual that had the safety switch on the clutch go out and it did the same thing (wouldn't even try to turn over though electrical stuff worked).

For a shade tree mechanic it might be but not for a shop. They could have checked to see if the starter was -1st, getting power-2cnd, would crank when it did get power. Someone didn't take the time to diagnose it correctly.

Probably a dumb question (I know more about manuals than automatics), but if it is the NSS, would trying to start it in Neutral instead of Park make a difference?

Not sure, but I would take it back to the shop and tell them that it didn't solve the problem so they need to try again.

this.

and this is what i would try first...

It started last Thursday, got in it, first crank got nothing, 2nd time it turned over. Drove Friday and Saturday no problem. Would not start all day Sunday. After a few tries it started on Monday and I drove it straight to the shop. It obviously fired when I picked it up and it fired first thing this morning when I pulled it out to the street. Now it won't turn.

and i would wiggle the ground cable, if its not tight at the block it will do the same thing as described.

**** me this worked. Can I rely on this all the time?

Should work for quite awhile. I would recommend finding a friend that will help you recondition it.

You seem nice.

my 90s cherokee had a NSS problem. If you can start it by pushing the gear shifter forward it's the NSS. I can't remember if mine wouldn't turn over or if there was nothing happening at all when I turned the key.

Electrical will function. Purpose is to prevent ability to start when in gear. For safety reasons the NSS will only allow start in park or neutral.

I just had this happen to my 1999 XJ. It is an easy repair, took me about an hour and a few beers. Here is the write up I used.
www-
jeep-xj.info/HowtoNSSrebuild.htm -Sorry I can't Link.

My problem was that one of the contacts, with the springs behind it, had become lodged inside the slot. Remove the contacts slowly so the spring doesn't shoot out and get lost. The hardest part is getting the plug fed back up the firewall. Also use a flat head screw driver to pry the NSS of the transmission, by gently using the edge of the tranny for leverage.

You were gentle with your tranny? Makes sense, I guess.

It started after wiggling the shifter as well. My inlaws are all Jeep people so I'll have them look over Thanksgiving. Problem is, they already think I'm a pussy because I haven't "put a baby in their sister's belly." Small town weirdos.

There is an old boy named Jason in Warsaw who will do you right. Go kick shit out of the guy who "fixed" it. You aint getting juice to the the starter......

LMAO

I've been married just over a year and we're already getting the baby squeeze. Just knock her up already! What ya waiting for city boy?

Going through some issues myself, I may have a leaking head gasket. I drove home from work last night and to work this morning and was getting temperature spikes, truck was wanting to overheat (only on the highway).

Checked at lunch today and my coolant was low so I added a couple of bottles of water and drove towards home tonight with no problems. Stopped at AutoZone and topped the coolant off.

I'm getting excess moisture out of the tail pipe so I may not be out of the woods yet.

Sushi eatin' hippy! Be like me with my accordion spine from the over 40 motocross circuit I do to get away from my litter of kids and their speech problems.

I had that issue on the safety start and put in a toggle switch. (Ford Ranger) Works well and should be hard to steal if you don't know where that toggle switch is. :D

This is true. Otherwise your 3 year old will take the keys to your AMC hornet, and insert into the ignition and crank while in reverse. Causin the car to repeatedly bash into the garage door from the inside.

/Dayze's dad

You race motocross and your not mechanical? I raced in the 80's and if I couldn't fix it, I didn't run.

LOL ROFL

Impregnate another woman and they'll probably leave you alone.

No, I don't race motocross, my inlaws do. They're all cool, would club a mother****er within an inch then help his buddy get his truck started to drive him to the ER. Their idea that not pulling out somehow makes you manlier is odd to me though. That, and the need to mix up corn in everything on the plate.

"mama, he ain't mixin' that corn up in the taters!"

Jeep? What year?

No jeep, Ford F150, just dropped it here, as not to start another thread.

Ahhh... Just wondered because there was a few models of Jeeps that were prone to the head cracking.

I like my ovaries like I like my corn... creamed!

Nothing new under the sun my friend, all cars and trucks can have the same problems, it's basically the same design. Poor casting or just lack of maintenance, pretty sure mine is the latter.

:)... there was a series of heads for the I6 in the 2000 and 2001 Cherokees and Wranglers that had serious issues with the head cracking,

Its a shame all those stupid switches and sensors were often the downfall of those otherwise fantastic 4.0L engines.

im betting you just have a leak and havent gotten it totally full...

352,000 miles on mine and still running strong.

Going to post my own question here rather than a new thread since it looks like OP's got answered.

I have a 2013 JKR. My front differential keeps leaking. I have had the dealer and a 3rd party re-seal it several times. This is a 4x4 used for crawling and I do have some armor on my diffs for protection, but what do I need to do to keep the diff oil in the actual diff?

Cool. Rubicon model?
Regardless, where is your diff leaking from?

Yes its a Rubicon. And the leak is coming from the seam of the diff cover at the bottom. I can take a picture tonight if needed.

Are they just using RTV or an actual gasket?

If just RTV then the cover could be shifting and then leaking. You might try something like http://www.quadratec.com/products/52416_101.htm

Yes. You need to post pictures of your Rubicon in the Gear Head topic, Pictures forum.
Otherwise, penguinz already has your problem covered. Only other thing I could think of is if the bolts are shaking loose, then some Stage 8 fasteners might be called for.

http://www.stage8.com/

just saw the 2015 Renegade Trailhawk....not a bad looking vehicle...better looking than the new Cherokee, IMO.

Just posted pics in Gear Head thread. But for purposes of this convo here is a pic where you can kind of see the glide plate over the differential that I have.

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...psb61fc715.jpg

Yeah Im looking at getting the new Renegade Trail-Hawk for the Mrs.

yes use one of these gaskets. AND make sure no oil is on the sealing surface. stick a rag in the bottom of the diff and soak up everything you can.


guarantee there was always fluid at the bottom on the sealing surface when they re sealed it and that will make them leak every time.

The new Cherokee front ends look awful. The Grand Cherokees still look nice.

Sweet. :thumb:
That's some cool three wheel action you've got going there.