Get rid of all these worthless players this offseason
 

AJ Jenkins
Donnie Avery
Mike DeVito (his Achilles' tendon is AIDS)
Mike McGlynn
Ryan Harris
Joe Mays
Chris Owens
Kurt Coleman
Josh Muaga
Jeff Linkenbach
Frankie Hammond Jr
Chase Daniel
Anthony Fasano
Jeff Allen

With McGrath's retirement money that is $20 million dollars to us next year. Cut these AIDS infested failures polluting this team and bring some quality players in.

AND ALEX SMITH

The only player I would keep is Allen

Seriously why the **** has Ryan Harris been starting all this time? Stephenson was back on the team AGES ago.

WHEN YOUR CHEMISTRY QUITE CLEARLY SUCKS THE LONG SCHLONG, ANDY, THEN YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTELY MESS WITH IT!

Marcus Cooper as well.

I disagree with Jenkins you should add bowe to your list no way is he playing worth the money he is and Fisher for being a huge bust.

Trade Alex Smith high to the Bucs, Jets, Washington or whoever.

Pooper and Sean Smith, too.

Goddamn that's a lot of garbage bin shit right there.

I thought Smith was doing better then 2nd half pretty much the best DB we have back there.

That's Dorsey for you.

I'm sure some shithole team is just itching to lock themselves into a 100% guaranteed contract over the next couple seasons for a mediocre asset.

Way to many failed draft will do that to you.

Fasano makes some catches

The rest can kick rocks

Huh? He ****ing sucked, too.

Better than McGlynn does not equal good.

If a QB is on his game against an elite receiver he is AIDs.

True. There goes ALL my hope.

I'd go so far as to say completely overhaul the team.

Would have been loads easier had JC not got an extension, because that was a trade opportunity right there.

Now they should flip Houston.. And perhaps Poe, let Hali walk and scrap the 3-4 defense.

They chained themselves to Alex for the future, so it's going to suck for him and his 33-8-1 record or whatever, but they should start setting the table for a future QBotF.

If they do it smart the Chiefs can be poised to run the early years of the 2020s.. Assuming football is still legal to play in America.

Or maybe rather than overreact, we might realize that half of this list includes cheap quality depth players. The problem isn't that these guys are all terrible. The problem is when most of them get way more starts than they should.

Sean isn't nearly as bad as you think.

Though, I have no problem upgrading the position if we can.

Sean Smith?? Seriously are you high. He's one of the best CB in the league

How can anyone complain about him after today's performance? He was outstanding today. Gaines was as good as you'd hope for in his first start. Our corners were not the problem today.

I'm convinced he'd be a liability in any playoff game against a top QB.

He's the Lin Elliot of CBs.

Clueless.

Damn, guys. It was one night. Okay, two weeks. You trying to get down to the right 33?

PLAYOFFS!

:)

Gaines needs to stay at corner

**** off

Gaines needs to turn his head more instead of running looking down the field.

Josh Mauga? How about James Michael Johnson who I've only noticed maybe three times all season. Sean Smith? Lame. And how about Fasano's nice td tonight? I guess the memory of that was erased by the two point try.

You have to hand it to Cooper, he is seeing less of the field these days so he has to be more efficient with his screwups. He did a bang up job tonight.

There's only 2 players on this team that perform consistently enough for me to miss. Correction, I'll add Colquitt and say 3.

The rest, I couldn't care less.

Charles, Houston, and Colquitt

Kelce. He balls every time he touches the ball

What, really?

This team has a lot of really good, consistent players. They have a few gaps that are glaringly bad. Let's not get that mixed up.

id add bowe and hali. we could do much MUCH better than 5 sacks and 0 receiving tds for 26M.

**** Dwayne Bowe. Get rid of his worthless ass.

Star tight ends only matter to fans of teams with shit WRs. I give **** all about Kelce. He can sit next to Tony Gonzalez in the "Chiefs tight ends that never won a playoff game" hall of fame. **** tight ends.

Pay for an OT, G and ILB in free agency.

Draft a receiver and CB first 2 rounds

Smartest move they can make is trading him away to anyone willing to part with a 2nd rounder or better?

Jason Avant played in 70.2% of the Chiefs offensive snaps. The most he had with the Panthers was 68.6%

At this point I'd just keep Avant and let Bowe go. I couldn't tell the difference between the two tonight.

What about the player from the bucs we got.

McCray

He should been deactivated this game.

You'd have to think canning Mcglynn, Harris, Fulton, Fisher, Mauga, JMJ, Avery, Jenkins, and Cooper would be addition by subtraction.

Right now my offseason buh-bye list looks like this...

Let walk...

CB Chris Owens
DL Nick Williams (must have been a recent garbage pile find)
S Kurt Coleman
OG Jeff Linkenbach
OG Mike McGlynn
OT Ryan Harris
TE Philip Supernaw
WR Jason Avant (unless he turns into something, we'l see)

Cut...

OG Jeff Allen
S Sanders Commings
DE Mike DeVito
RB Cyrus Gray
WR AJ Jenkins
LB Derrick Johnson
FS Eric Berry (likely retirement I'm guessing)
WR Donnie Avery
WR Dwayne Bowe
QB Chase Daniel
LB Joe Mays
LB Tamba Hali

Long list I know...

Would plan to re-sign/tender...
S Ron Parker (and leave him at freakin FS)
DE Kevin Vickerson (only if he'll sign a 1 year vet min contract to allow KC to use the 570k vet cap rule)
LB Justin Houston
LB James-Michael Johnson
LB Josh Mauga
LB Josh Martin (ERFA tender)
LS Thomas Gafford
OC Rodney Hudson
WR Frankie Hammond (RFA tender)
WR Junior Hemmingway (ERFA tender)
TE Demetrius Harris (ERFA tender)
RB Joe McKnight


Free Agent targets currently on my radar... will expand...

ILB David Harris - NYJ (30 years old) likely contract about 6 mil per
OG James Carpenter - SEA (25 years old) likely contract about 7 mil per
WR Cecil Shorts - JAX (25 years old) likely contract about 2.5 mil per
WR Denarius Moore - OAK (25 years old) likely contract about 1.5 mil per
WR Jeremy Maclin - PHI (26 years old) likely contract 7 mil per
CB Devon House - GB (25 years old) likely contract 8.5 mil per

*likely contracts are my guess based on other contract/performance but may not be accurate

With cuts, Chiefs can likely afford about 7-8 million in free agency.
With re-signings and current roster, Chiefs would be at 45 players. Have 11 draft picks. Can add dumpster signings and 1 or 2 decent FA.

Could free up 1.95 mil with Fasano, 1.75 mil with Walker, 5.5 mil with Sean Smith if they wanted.

:D More drinks to come.

Fulton and Cooper might end up being solid players in the future. That said they should be depth until such a time comes...

There's hardly anyone we drafted on this list...

Yeah, it's a long list.

I've explained many times, you can free up cap space by signing players to contracts with a delayed bonus. First, you're cutting way too many players who are quality depth. Why get rid of guys like Allen who is a quality depth swing lineman, or Owens who is cheap corner depth? Second, this is all a panic reaction because of current cap situation. If you restructure a few base salaries in 2014, trim some fat, and sign guys like Houston to contracts with a high bonus and a deferred bonus in year 2 or 3, cap problem solved.

Cooper sucks. He had 2 good games and has been the league's running joke ever since. The guy has had plenty of opportunities and has not shown any sign of nfl ability.

Get rid of all of them!!! You guy stink!!

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This is CP, though. They're all trained to overreact. We're running out there with backup depth players but lacking the high starter quality players. I'm happy we have that depth now, but maybe another draft will get us what we need. (OL, WR, ILB)

You'd keep Hammond and Hemingway? LMAO

GTFO

Who's going to drop passes and not get open next year if we cut Bowe and Avery?

Mostly Chris Owens

I'm not a fan of what Dorsey did in year 1, which I think cap strapped us a bit. While Dorsey has whiffed on first round picks, his haul of kelce, knile, and Gaines, I think, is a first round calibre haul. He gave out bad contracts in year 1 but I think this year we slotted well. The decision to cut back on spending and clean up the cap this year was an excellent decision as it will help us prepare for the long line of second contracts we have to extend in the next few years.

Dorseys has hit really well I'm areas he wasn't expected to. And he's whiffed on the easy stuff. He needs to improve a lot, but at least we are a better team with an improved cap situation. To me, the question will continue to be the coach and qb, two things I don't think Dorsey had much influence over.

Sounds like all but 3 or 4 CBs

That's how I've felt. I said last year that the contracts he handed out will haunt us. Bowe especially. I'm no fan of Smiths contract, but it's whatever. The reactionary aspect of CP is funny, though. Let's cut everybody because they sucked last night... When it ultimately falls on Reid and his staff for not making a solid game plan to counteract their shortcomings.

Does the world contain enough dumpsters?

LMAO I love this place. We all thought this team would take a step back this year. We were hoping for .500 but thinking 6-10.
For Reid to do what he's done with the shit he's got... This team lost Berry, Johnson and Devito right off the bat. They'll be fine next year.

Keep Mauga and JMJ? Have you seen the run defense this season? They are both horrible at reading and reacting to the run.

idk he played pretty well against Peyton Manning, the refs, and Demaryius Thomas... What the **** does it matter about a playoff liability if we can't make the playoffs anyways?

The unbelievable part is that we are sold that we are somehow cap-strapped with this roster. The Broncos can somehow afford Peyton Manning, and sign free agents like Ware and Sanders in addition to keeping a better all-around core of players. But the Chiefs are the ones who are cap-limited and have to sign players off the scrap heap just to field a team.

This.

It's all in the structure. The Hunts DONT like handing out huge signing bonus to sign another team's free agents to offset the cap hit. That strategy eventually gets you - and Denver will be up against the cap this off season, BUT the cap usually rises every year which can alleviate some of the hit.

Just some salary cap numbers.

Denver

Active 53 - $120.9 million
IR - $2.39 million
Starting Offense - $49.4 million
Starting Defense - $38 million
Starting ST - $3.67 million

Kansas City

Active 53 - $108.8 million
IR - $13.7 million
Starting Offense - $39.9 million
Starting Defense - $37.8 million
Starting ST - $4.2 million


Highest by group

Active 53 - $121.186 million - Cincinnati Bengals
IR - $43.5 million - St. Louis Rams
Starting Offense - $55.6 million - Chicago Bears
Starting Defense - $55.36 million - Buffalo Bills
Starting ST - $5.73 million - San Diego Chargers

http://www.spotrac.com/premium/resea...-spending-485/

The bidmg difference between our cap and devnvers is they have a shit ton of really good guys still on rookie contracts and we do not.

There is some truth to this.

All I know is Bowe is a must go.

We need OL who are dirty, nasty, in your face guys. Intimidators.

This argument is ****ing stupid. Bowe is the only WR on this team doing anything. His lack of usage is a fault of Reid and Smith.

Or he can't get open......

all of his catches are slants and stop routes. We pay a guy 11 MILLION to catch slants and stops, and with no separation.

Gonna need every stinking one of those 11-12 draft picks and spend some good free agent money to boot in order to get this shitshow back on track, loootta these bullshitters need to hit...

a) the bench

or

b) the bricks

We pay a guy $68 MILLION to not throw more than 20 yards down the field.

It's a much shorter list if you categorize it by "Must Keep"

First, last night he had quite a few completions past 20 yards.

But, how many QB's could do anything last night? He was pressured immediately every play, and when he wasn't, he made plays.

When Bowe is your #1, you need A LOT of time to throw. Alex has 2-3 seconds.

Which is an indictment on this front office and the one that proceeded it.

They've drafted better than we have, while picking at the bottom of the round and we've been picking in the Top 5-10.

Cassel, Quinn, Palko, Orton, Thigpen, Huard, and Croyle never had any problem throwing to Bowe. Why can't our franchise QB do the same?

Why don't teams blitz QB's like Manning and Brady ? Because those guys can consistently find an open hot receiver and turn a short pass into a huge gain.

Now, I realize Smith isn't in the same class as those guys. But, to some on this board, he's in the next tier. With that in mind, how often does Smith hit a hot receiver on a blitz? Make a team pay for putting 8 or 9 in the box? Even a guy like Hoyer can do it once in a while. When does Smith make any defense respect the passing game?

:eek:

Said wr has to know to run a "hot" route too.