Planeteers Jam Session At Knuckleheads
 

stevieray started all of this, and I think it's a fantastic idea.

We need to pick a date. He said it's open mic Sat & Sun during the day. I will gladly travel on the decided day.

I would like to jam with (in no particular order) demonpenz, SNR, eDave, that computer guy that had the Homer Simpson small brain avatar and at least two others I can't think of right now.

Oh yeah, that guy that sang "Keep Your Hands To Yourself" with Phobia at a 37ForEver thing.

Of course, FAX. FAX and I talked about getting together and jamming. We discovered we have a mutual former band member.

FAX, if you are reading this.....

Dinny

Is it like Karaoke where we have to get up there and sing

C'mon, man.

Where are the CP musicians? You can't all be working tonight.

Props to those of you that are.

I will bump this thread shamelessly. In the meantime, can I at least get an amen from the cheap seats?

Dinny

jammin' in the key of Bb

I'm playing with my new looper.

I MISS MR. FAX :deevee:

Don't get it caught in your zipper. A friend told me it really hurts when you do.

Dinny

can you sing that accapella?

Bb ain't so bad. Eb drives bass players crazy. Ain't no bottom end.

Dinny

When I'm feeling particularly brooding, Eb all the way.

I'm more of a T and A guy. Once in a great while I dig W or R.

220, 221, whatever it takes.

Dinny

You are no fun to talk about music with Dinny Blues!

As long as you don't tune to 425. Makes it a bitch to sing harmonies.

My friend always talks about Knuckleheads she said its a cool place

I'll bring my cowbell and triangle.

Aerosmith's triangle player kicked ass on that "Sweet Emotion" track.

Dinny

She is wrong.

expound?

What about zepsinger?

good call...last I heard he was doing one man shows.

Where is FAX? He still around?

It looks like next week (the 20th) is it.

zepsinger was one of the guys I was trying to remember. I thought Rabblerouser's (or whatever his name is) band sounded pretty good.

I thought Braincase played music, but I may have him confused with someone else.

If you could PM me some contact info, stevieray. I tried to PM you my info, but your box is full.

Dinny

In Chiefs Hell has a band too

Yeah, but doesn't he live, like, somewhere a long ways away?

Dinny

It is nothing special. Just a 'dive' bar.

dive bar? hardly...and outdoor venue with upper deck and VIP seating?

dive bars don't hold over 500 people.

Thank you very much for the gracious invitation, stevieray.

I'm sitting here grinnin' my ass off. Looking forward to a great day.

Dinny

Sounds like there's room enough to **** a kangaroo in there if you move some tables and chairs out of the way.

Dinny

Damn, what a blast it would be to make that jam session. After more than 45 years of giggin' I'm proud to say me and my Bro are still at it. Through the Herman Hill Park riot in Wichita and beyond. Wish I could be there.

Oh, and **** that e flat key. Make it something respectable like a D#. :D

That would be Hell, also commonly referred to as Omaha. Wish I could see you guys get after it but no way I can make it down next weekend.

HEY SAUTO!!!!!!

Dinny

I wonder if Simply Red would be nice enough to help me figure out what to wear.

I was thinking of trying clothes. I could probably use some good advice beyond that.

Dinny

I am terrible, but I would try to show up.

COOL

Is why I put dive in quotes. Is big but has that feel to it. I immediately went and got penicillin and tetanus shots after leaving.

I can scratch records.

You HAVE to make the scene whether you doit or not, Dpenz. You are on the top of my CP jammers list.

How about SNR? Would love to jam with him. He'd probably want to cuss me out or kick my ass or both.

Dinny

I'm sure he's fine.

Please Keep Chiefs Planet Free - Keep your groupie hands off of me - I was n00b in 2003 - please keep it free.

Should I wear my Memphis Grizzlies ugly sweater?

I'm trying to figure out which shoes. I hate this shit. Hipsters have really thrown me off my ching.

Dinny

Knuckleheads is probably one of the top 10 coolest bars I've ever had the pleasure to see. When you're walking in do a 180 and check out the mural the building. Some serious talent involved on that one.

Can't say for sure but I'm doing a lot of traveling between PA and CO right now and may be able to pop my head in. Get enough cocktails in me and I can belt out a mean version of Johnny Cash 'Folsom Prison'. That would be about the only song I can do out of my one trick pony ass.

Post the date if it comes into fruition please.

Feb 10 Jeff Austin Band

Heh, my favorite bar in Durango you take your dog in with you when it's not too crowded. Actually watched the last Chiefs game there with my dog sitting in the booth. No need to try and impress me.

:D

If it happens on the 20th, Bob Dole will plan to show up with his wooden box.

It is definitely the 20th. One week from today.

Gonna get up and doit.

Dinny

could a mod put the date in the title for me?

Oh ****. Open mic? Sauto loves the karaoke... Not sure i could make it up for an overnight on short notice.


I'll see what I can do.

The jam session starts at 1:30 in the afternoon. Goes 'til 5:30 or so.

Patsy and I are going up early to hang out and carpool with stevieray.

You can do this, I just know it.

Dinny

Early afternoon? That would make it easier, I just couldn't drink... Ash would definitely be in, she could probably even get some shopping in... Let me look for a sitter.

I have a video camera designed for recording live music. I haven't messed with it very much, but it takes nice videos. The files are a bitch to edit.

I'm going to bring it and record a mockumentary of the whole day. I would love for Donger to do the interviews.

Dinny

:sulk:

guess I don't post here enough anymore...


Sounds like fun but I'm in KY and will be headed to the inlaws in VA on the 20th...

If it happens again, I'll show up with my Snapcaster!

http://alienmusclecars.com/hamper/Snapcaster.jpg

You are one of the guys I was trying to remember in the OP. If gas keeps going down, it will make long trips less painful.

If this weekend is the smashing success I expect, it will definitely happen again and again.

Dinny

:rockon:

Was it Zach singing Al Green in a video posted here a while back?

Boy got pipes.

Dinny

yup

I put all of my anger into my music. That's where it all goes. You're safe.

But yeah, I mentioned this in the other thread. I hope this is a success, because when I get down there (haven't been to KC in years) my ass is showing up.

That would be incredibly groovy.

Looks like I'm going to meet some CPers this weekend that have been at the top of my list a long time.

penz, you gotta show. Simply Red, are you going to be in the area for the holidays?

Dinny

demonpenz, you're in charge of keeping SAUTO from beating people up.

Dinny

Sauto is a softie

:p

I just PMd InChiefsHell.

I expect to hear back from him pretty soon.

Dinny

Wish I could be there with my Thunderbird but probably not going to happen.

A video thread of the event would be cool.

So what sort of PA, etc is provided?

They have house sound but from what I've heard from people that have played there, as well as simulcast radio, it's pretty bad.

No offense to the sound guys or club itself.

I have never been there, but I would guess the problem with the sound has to do with an uncooperative guitar player or a prima donna singer that can't be satisfied. Possibly both.

A guitar player sees a room that size, brings his full stack and turns it up to 11. When the engineer asks him to turn it down so he can mix the whole band, the engineer becomes an asshole and the sound sucks.

When the guitar is making ears bleed, it's impossible to bring the rest of the orchestra up to that level without feedback all over everywhere.

I would bet that if that same guitar player brought his Deluxe Reverb, cranked it to where he is getting some tone, the sound engineer would wind up being a god.

The only thing you can do with a prima donna singer is kind of gross and is usually done face-first up against a brick wall.

Dinny

Can I bring the jug and washboard?

Man, days like this make me wish I lived closer! I could use a good jam right about now!

ABSOLUTELY!!!

what's in the jug?

Dinny

Yes, that does happen. There are a lot of arrogant guitarists out there for sure. But I've also been in the position where the sound guy just didn't listen at all to what the band was telling him and we couldn't even hear ourselves. That was more a monitor issue but still. Some sound guys just plain suck.

I don't care what the circumstances. If you find yourself in a situation where you can't hear yourselves, you should never blame someone else.

YOU WILL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO HEAR YOURSELVES BETTER BY TURNING YOUR INSTRUMENTS DOWN!!!! ALWAYS!!! SIMPLE ****ING LOGIC WOULD TELL ANYONE THIS WHETHER THEY HAVE EVER PLAYED MUSIC OR NOT!!!

QUIT CRYING AND TURN THE MOTHER****ER DOWN!!!!!!!

It really is just that simple because it applies even when there is NO sound engineer. Volume knobs have more than one direction.

Turn....the....mother****er....down.

My drums don't have a volume knob, and I can play in a phone booth quiet enough to be asked to turn it up. If the audience wants you to turn it down, you are doing it wrong. If the audience wants you to turn it up.....

Dynamics........get some.

I'm not going off on you, Lzen. But I see a lack of accountability in so many musicians that can't get out of their own way. A good musician's performance should never be placed in an engineer's or anyone else's hands. Don't blame the refs... score more points.

Dinny

While I'm fully aware of the fact that many guitarists and singers don't understand the difference between stage volume, PA, monitor volume, etc. and so on, this certainly wasn't the issue in the circumstances that I referenced.

There are good FOH mixers and there are bad FOH mixers. The difference between the two can be as large as the Grand Canyon.

I absolutely agree. If a band has done everything they possibly can to cooperate, then it is time to hang the engineer.

I'm not suggesting the engineer is blameless.

It is on the drummers, as well. Actually mostly on the drummer. If the drums are too loud in the beginning, the whole band doesn't stand a chance.

Bands are kind of like the QB in those situations. Raise the ability of those around them, and calmly overcome the deficiencies of the inept.

Be a pro, take it in stride, overcome and break a leg.

Dinny

Anyone following along is absolutely right, yes I am a crotchety old ****er when it comes to stage volume. I'm not holier than the next mother****er, I just can't stand it when it is so loud you can't hear anything but a messy blare.

I have turned down many, many offers to play in bands full of good players because they simply play too loud.

I can not stand being in front of any audience anywhere that people are grimacing in pain and putting their hands over their ears. That is not why I did all that practicing.

It's a HUGE pet-peeve of mine.

I apologize for being such a bitch, but I will never apologize for being asked to turn it up.

It's actually a fun game/challenge that I've had in a few bands I've worked with. We start the very first song ridiculously quiet and stay at that level until someone asks us to turn it up. If we get a request, we ask which of us needs to turn up, or all of us, etc. The one who is asked to turn it up wins, we all tie, etc. Just a game we kept amongst ourselves, didn't announce it or anything.

We usually got hired back everywhere we played.

Dinny

Sounds like fun. Wish I could go.

I'm going to be more interested than usual about the sound system/engineer. Not going to bug 'em, just observe.

A friend and I back in the day would pool our sound equipment, and contract sound reinforcement gigs. The biggest band we ever did was a 38 piece big band. They were all fantastic players, and just all-around swell people.

They didn't do shows very often, but we became their sound guys, so I guess we were doing okay with them.

Dinny

I think that there is an "art" to finding the right stage volume for the venue you are playing. Good bands find that, and good sound men can make those bands sound even better! A buddy of mine is an audio engineer for NASA and one hell of a musician. When I was in a band with him, we always sounded great on stage and FOH...because he knew how to get my volume (on guitar), his volume (on bass), the drummer, and our singer all well balanced on stage so that the sound man could really make us shine.

After reading today's posts, Bob Dole is concerned that his wooden box might be too loud on stage.

What I'm talking about only has to do with a rehearsed band.

At a jam session, where people are introduced for the first time and come out playing, it's "when in rome".

If it's Les Pauls to the walls, I'm all bombs away. I can hit 'em just as hard as I can soft.

Yeah, I can definitely get on an English Muffin when the topic is stage volume. A thousand pardons.

If the place is as big as it sounds, they'll probably put a mic on your box. I got you figured for someone that doesn't play your box at extreme volume levels anyhow.

Dinny

Bob Dole was planning on bringing his own mic and stand, so we should be good.

A guy playing a wooden box without his own mic would be like a guy showing up with his Axe and no amp.

Very true.

How long will it take to drive from my house to stevieray's?

As soon as he lets me know what time to arrive, I can estimate a time to depart.

Dinny

Never been to his new pad, so not really sure.