Ten Things About Today's Game
 

Ten Things About Today's Game

10. The NFL is a cruel, unforgiving place. The season is a 16 game grind. Injuries take a toll. Weak players on the roster get exposed. Bad losses come home to roost in December, forcing teams to win during desperate circumstances. KC hasn't been a very good road team this season. Their one signature road win was beating San Diego early in the year. So going to Pittsburgh in December -a place where the Chiefs haven't won since 1986- was a pretty tall order. And of course, they failed because they did nothing but kick field goals. If you can't score TDs, you don't deserve to go to the playoffs. If you can't score TD's, you'll always get beat by teams that do. If you can't score TDs, you cannot compete, period. Both teams scored four times today. Two of Pittsburgh's scores were TDs, the Chiefs kicked four field goals. Crunch time games like today show a lot about a team, their true heart, and what they're made of. I'm going to speak to the truth about this years team. Many of you may not like what I have to say, especially the rose colored glass homers, but I think hard truths are in order after today's loss.

9. This team will never be much more than a borderline "maybe make the playoffs" type of team with Alex Smith at QB. He is Matt Cassel with better scrambling ability. He is incapable of bringing your team back once behind. He consistently loses must win games. Maybe that's the "consistent quality," that Andy Reid admires. But he is not a difference maker. He cannot put a team on his back and will them to win. Who can, and who continues to do that? Manning. Brady. Rodgers. Luck. Roethlisberger. Rivers. Breese. Wilson. You know...guys who get to the playoffs and get to Super Bowls. Smith had Wilson wide open on a potential 60 yard bomb in the first half. He missed him, badly. Smith has no deep ball accuracy-at all. Passes from ten to fifteen yards is his effective range. Even in the fourth quarter down by two scores, Smith is still dinking and dunking the ball down the field. Yeah, he had a 300 yard passing day, but so what? That's on 45 passing attempts. Until we get a guy who is more than a "game manager," we're doomed to this type of year forever. The Chiefs seem to be complacent with this type of QB at the helm, and have been with every QB since Montana. It's engrained in the organizational DNA. They will never win until they find a difference maker at QB. And since they're committed to Smith for the forseeable future, this fact will not change soon.

8. Jamaal Charles may be the best running back in Chiefs history. But he is not a big game player, and is not a clutch player. He is injury prone, and he is mistake prone. He does not shine when most needed. Today he fumbled at a critical point in a 10-6 game, bringing about a potential 14-point swing; killing a Chiefs drive at the Pittsburgh 25. Then Pittsburgh marches the ball right down the field for seven and moves to a 17-6 lead, and game over. Charles could only manage 29 yards on nine carries, that's less than three yards a carry. Meanwhile, Bell runs for 63 yards and a TD. That's not great production, but he did score a TD in a critical game at a critical time. Charles has to prove to me he can be a difference maker in a game that means something important. He's never done that. Unfortunately, he's been beat up, or had a concussion, or for whatever reason couldn't rise to the occasion. His inability to stay healthy was a major reason we lost the Colts playoff game last year. Wasn't his fault he got hurt, but I'm just saying, the great ones rise to the occasion. Charles has never done that as a Chief. The NFL is a cruel, results oriented business. So by the standards of measurement in the NFL, it makes him a very good player. Not a great player compared to other backs in clutch situation. He may be in the Hall of Fame someday, but his lack of post season production will temper the discussion.

7. Dwayne Bowe has stolen his bloated paycheck this year. Yeah, he's had the flu this week. But in the second quarter, second and goal from the Steeler five yard line, Smith throws a back shoulder fade to Bowe, one on one on a backup Steelers cornerback. Bowe knows the ball is coming. He's supposed to be a strong, fight for the football type of possession receiver. The ball hits him in the hands, he drops it. Chiefs settle for three. Bowe catches six passes, but averages less than ten yards per catch. He never impacts the game. Meanwhile, Brown, his Steeler counterpart, goes for 72 yards and a TD, contributing to his team's victory in a must have game. Bowe should be cut or traded. He does not help this team win, he sucks up salary cap, and does not make the big play. Wilson, an undrafted free agent, has outplayed him two weeks in a row.

6. There was a big article in the KC Star today about how Eric Fisher has been mentored by John Alt over the past few weeks. Fisher was an embarrassment against a geriatric James Harrison today. Harrison beat Fisher for two sacks, and was in on several other tackles for loss. Fisher was basically awful. Right before the half, Charles tried to run behind Fisher on a fourth and one, and got stuffed because Fisher blocked the wrong guy. Sherman got his block. Fasano got his block Fisher blocked down on the nose tackle, leaving the linebacker -who he should have blocked - free to step up on the hole, completely clear to stuff Charles. Zero points, and a complete change in the complexion of the game. Next year will be Fisher's third year. If he doesn't improve, he will just be a journeyman line player, and will be a monumental waste of the first pick in the draft. If you can't run behind the first pick in the draft, with the blocking help of a fullback, and the blocking help of a tight end, and can't make one yard, you don't deserve to win.

5. Andy Reid made Alex Smith throw 45 times today. He only ran the ball 14 times. If Charles was too banged up to run, then pound Knile Davis. Davis is a capable big back. He's a lot like.....oh, say BELL of Pittsburgh. This kind of offensive imbalance is why we lose. If you are going to throw the ball all day, where is Kelce? Four catches? The only play Kelce was involved in that meant anything was a fake field goal. Then after showing the stones to try to sustain a drive for seven, they run Charles up the middle, Fasano gets beat on his block and Charles makes a yard. Then Bowe drops the fade in the end zone, then on third down Alex gets chased around the right side with no time to throw, because Fisher got beat by Harrison again. Alex meekly runs out of bounds at the five, and we kick a field goal. Then the Steelers march right down field to score their first TD. I think Andy knew that we'd need TDs to hang today. I think that's why he went for the fourth and one right before halftime. He gambled on Fisher and lost.

4. The real reason this is a mediocre team -either an 8-8 or 9-7 team as we'll see after next week- is because this defense was gutted. Losing DJ and DeVito the first game of the season hurt. Losing Berry hurt more. That's two All-Pro's and a legit run stopper right up the middle. The rest of our "All-Pro's" didn't do enough to change the course of this game. Hali's bad knee is making him ineffective. He had two tackles, no sacks, was not a factor at all. Houston had four tackles and one sack. That's not good enough. Poe? No sacks, one tackle. That's not good enough. Nobody forced a fumble or pick. Not good enough. Not good enough when the Steelers get five sacks and force a critical fumble on Charles. Steelers averaged seven yards on every first down play. Not good enough, defense. That said, the players who desperately needed to be our leaders did not show up on offense. Giving up 20 points in Pittsburgh is not terrible, but the Steelers kept the Chiefs at a good arm's length most of the game. They knew Smith would not rally the team once down by two scores.

3. Because of injuries, the Chiefs are down to a lot of bottom of the barrel guys seeing the field. Fleming, Owens, Parker, all not good enough. None should be kept on this roster next year, we have to do better. Gaines was out with the flu today (I suppose). He better have been puking his socks up in the locker room not to suit up and play. Mauga should be a special teamer like Zombo. He would only start for some of the worst teams in the league. On the offensive line, Linkenbach, Harris, not good enough. A wide receiver corps with Bowe, Avery, Hemmingway and Hammond? Not good enough. I'm OK with Avant and Wilson, we know who they are. Bowe would make a fine number three or four receiver for somebody, but his contract is a boat anchor. Cut him loose, let's get somebody in here who's a fighter and a winner.

2. Special teams contributed all the points (sadly) and made one nice play on a fake field goal for a first down. The final on-side kick was totally botched. Chiefs had no chance to recover. That's what you get with a rookie kicker. Santos has no prior experience in such a situation, and it showed. DAT could break nothing in kick coverage. We needed something extra from the specials to have a chance today, and didn't get it. They didn't beat us, they just didn't help that much.

1. So, it's come down to -realistically- all we can do is hope to spoil San Diego's season next week. I predict 20,000 or more no-shows. The ticket brokers were already dumping seats for dirt cheap. Phyllis has a bulging disc in his neck, but he'll find a way to slice and dice us. Once he sees our shit coverage on Heath Miller, Antonio Gates will run crazy against us. This team is mediocre. It's going to be mediocre. Yeah, there's some weird mathematical stuff that could still happen where the Chiefs would sneak in as a "playoff team," but do you really think they'd win anything? They're lumped in with all the other mediocre teams like Buffalo, and San Diego, and Baltimore. We lost to two of the teams who'll be picking in the top four slots in the 2015 draft. That's enough to send you home for New Years, and deservedly so. This team got what it deserved today.

Well, that's my rant. It's hard to be Mr. Jolly Pants when your team's season just went down in flames.

Finally, I hope you and your family have a very Merry Christmas. As for me, My mom was just released from a week's stay in the hospital yesterday to go home. My beautiful little kitty Mama Cat is quickly fading away from illness and old age, but I'm hoping she makes it another week to spend one more Christmas with us. My wife gets to retire after this school year concludes. My company laid off two people in the last month, and to my relief, neither of them was me. So I have much to be guardedly grateful for. I hope your world -family, health and profession- are calm, care-free and joyous. God Bless Us, every one.

KC Star Game Photos are Here:
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What are the salary cap implications for cutting Bowe? We presumably could get 3 decent receivers for what we're paying him. You're exactly right about him being a #3 or 4 WR on a good team. He's more likely to catch ebola than catch a touchdown at this point.

Best thing about the game was reading this post

Fisher also got blown up when Harrison pushed him 5 yards back of the line to tackle DAT on a sweep play. Fisher is a true piece of feces

Enjoyed the rant and agree with every word of it! Have a merry Christmas!

Bowe is an above average #2 WR on a team with a real QB. Stupid to ****ing blame him and Charles.

Bowe didn't drop the ball. It was a great play by their corner to punch it out. I'm not mad at Bowe for that play.

#9 is why you need to take a shot with a QB. If the goal is to win a Super Bowl, then you go after a QB who has the physical talent to win a Super Bowl.

How is this team worse off in the long run with a drafted QB that busted? The point of drafting those guys is that they offered a potential skill set that, if developed, would have given the Chiefs a difference maker at QB. Instead, the management and fanbase only cares about a player's floor. Alex Smith's floor is two inches below his ceiling and rests in the territory of thoroughly mediocre.

Fans have bought into organizational doublespeak. The GM cares more about keeping his job than winning a Super Bowl, and if fans tolerate 7-9 win seasons in perpetuity, he'll keep his job for two decades. It's in the GM's best financial interest to pick players that will help him keep gettin dem checks rather than players that could bring a championship to the team but risk him losing his job.

I guess the difference between me and the average fan is that I see no meaningful difference between 8-8 and 2-14 over the course of a season.

You get better draft picks at 2-14. 8-8 seasons are why the Chiefs haven't sniffed a Super Bowl in 45 years.

Boldin makes catches like that all the time.. for the money he makes, HE HAS TOO GRAB THAT.

For me the above mentioned defining moment came at Oakland. It was then that I KNEW this Chiefs team was like all the other pretenders. Like you said, you don't lose to TENN & OAK and make the playoffs. As I said, my hopes were dashed in Oakland so today was an easy loss to take as I'm already over the Chiefs this year with the season not being over. Kind of like getting over your psycho girlfriend while you're still with her - it's VERY EASY to dump her on your terms - and that's what I did after the Oakland loss.

In any case, I'm with you on all except Smith. I agree to a point, but I believe the Chiefs can win with him IF they surround him with a top notch OL and some good WR's. You're right, Smith is not going to put a team on his back and carry it. He needs a good supporting cast. The Chiefs knew they were going to go with Smith and didn't upgrade the OL or WR's this past off season and that's what made it so frustrating, as I KNEW the product on the field would be exactly what it is. Front office - not good enough. You cant go with JAGS if your QB is one too...

In any case, great read as always and spot on!

Oh for ****'s sake, the corner just made a great play. He gets paid too, you know.

That's why I didn't say overall. Over the course of a season, there is no meaningful difference. Over the course of an offseason it is paramount to end up with a high pick.

The worst thing you can be in the NFL or NBA is .500.

That Pestilence dude is a Pest .... Fantastic as always George ... Unfortunataley #9 as mentioned ..... is a moot point and Alex Smith is the Kansas City Chiefs QB for more years than care to know

he should have caught it. Bowe is not clutch

Rookie or not, Santos has to do a better job than that on an onsides kick. They've been practicing the freaking play for the last 6 months. That was totally unacceptable.

One of your best.

That kick was an AIDS Rave party manifested in an open sore on a crippled donkeys genetalia

It was awful

Thanks, George.

The Chiefs don't deserve a thoughtful analysis. They just suck and should kill themselves. Your writing talents are wasted on these talentless shitty players and coaches.

George, I think youre a bit too critical of Jamaal and Houston.

For one, Jamaal has played here for like 6 seasons or so? How many meaningful games has he had a chance to show up in? Two playoff games. One of which he had 90 yards on 9 carries for a TD and another that he suffered a concussion on a hard turf in Indy along with seemingly 80% of our starters that were left.

Chiefs fans are a different breed. We've been blessed with probably the best succession of RBs in the league since 2002 but no QB truly worth his salt (you could make an argument for Trent). Running backs don't really win you games. We've had Jamaal and gone 2-14. We've had Jamaal and gone 7-9. We've had Jamaal and gone 11-5.

And I think you say "that isn't good enough" after citing Houston's stats after every loss. Well, obviously we didn't get the win but can you really point to Houston as the reason? How many times has this team notched just 1 sack at the end of the game? 90% of the time that 1 sack came from him.

Over these last 5 weeks or so our offense hasn't put up more than 20 points but one time. 12, 14, 16, etc. points just will not get it done. End of story.

Our season is done for the following reasons in order:
1. The OL sucks. This hurt running any type of offense sooo bad we could barely score.
2. Injuries killed us all year. Not just the obviuous studs but Avery and Jenkins being out all the time was really deadly. This hurt the offense alot.
3. Smith was a super safe loser. He was great last season in December when we needed scores and this year he was plain crap but I have hope.
4.Poor WR play. Nobody that a defense needs respect at all. This and OL must be fixed for next season.
5.Reids play calling was so bad at times it cost us the playoffs. Tenn and Raider loss it was that bad and we lost.

THIS X 1,000,000.

Charles as the closest player the Chiefs have on their roster to a franchise player, deserves the high expectations that come with that.

Charles was awful today.

The fumble was a killer (Charles 5th fumble of the season, and 3rd lost fumble), the key drop on the final drive and a play early in the game when Charles got the ball (from a screen pass) in open space with the opportunity to make a huge play, only needing to make one defender miss. Of course Charles gets ankle tackled by the Steelers defender which minimized a potential huge play.

Suck on my trunk.

GB finally started cracking skulls with a baseball bat.


Welcome to the club.

Exactly. The only post-game analysis these ****wads deserve are Demonpenz MS Paint depictions of Alex shitting down his leg:

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps488b0567.jpg

Look at just today's game… a virtual playoff game and Charles was awful. He choked… he failed to deliver as a franchise player.

Killer fumble? Check
Huge dropped pass on the final key drive? Check
Failing to capitalize on a huge play opportunity early in the game by failing to make ONE defender miss and getting ankle tackled for a minimal gain? Check

Charles is the Chiefs franchise player and is getting paid like one as well.

He no-showed in the Chiefs biggest game of the season to-date.

George, as always-thanks. I am glad I did not have to see this game. Kid 2 had a gymnastics meet today. She placed in all but one event, so it was a good day there.

I was able to keep tabs on the game because gymnastics meets are 2 minutes of your child and 40 minutes of waiting and watching other teams. When the fumble happened and the TD, I closed the phone and announced game.

The season is now over to me. Time to de-chief the truck and figure out what I will be wearing on Fridays. Also, now that I have my Sunday afternoons back, I hope there will be something on TV. I will always have papers to correct and get ready for the next week of 8th graders.

Happy and Merry to all. What ever you like to celebrate. Enjoy the family. At least we can know that we are now going to get 2-3 minutes more of sunlight until June!!!!!!!

ROFL

Is Alex shitting out the Charcoal Santa jammed in his "Stocking"?

Very well put George.
Couldn't agree more.

LMAO

Marry Christmas, Happy New Year and Happy holidays.

Good read man.

I can't say that I'm disappointed in the D. Rape went 18/25 220 1TD. On the ground they went 68 1TD, 72 if you take out Rapes Sack. There was only one sack, but there was respectable pressure. If you tell me we could hold the Steelers to 20 points, 368 total yards, that's good enough to win. D, and Sutton came to play. Yeah, Poe, Hali, Houston could have racked up bigger stats, but overall D got it done. 12 points wins you not a ****ing thing in the 2014 NFL.

I can't agree about Charles. How many truly meaningful games has he played in? You can say the Indy crazy concussion game, and the slaughter at Baltimore Haley's first year. I can't remember if he got any carries in the Herm abortion, but if he did, they were minimal.

Most of the other need-to-win games, were in the regular season after the team has shit it's pants and probably didn't have to be need-to-win. Whereas he has been transcendent in many of his other regular season games that were important.

It is a ****ing travesty that Charles has been a Chief. Put Charles on a decent team and it would be just unfair. Just flat out unfair. He is a generational talent, and we are just a couple years away from ****ing off his career.

I'm on the fence about Bowe. He shouldn't be too old. Maybe he's always been a jumpball kind of guy, and Smith won't throw those. I know he's better than this year's stats, but I doubt that he's as good as his paycheck. It should be noted, though, that he blocks like a bulldozer.

Right there with you with Smith, Reid, OL - namely that joke of an overall first round pick. Really good writeup overall.

Simple fact is that the good teams hold serve at home and win the ones they should win. Then you can talk about going and getting good wins. The Seattle and NE wins were great, but we should have won Titans, Faid, and Donks at home on 10 days. We win the ones we should, we are in.

Everyone talks about Bowe and how it can not get open and it is not the case. I watched Bowe specifically in the red zone and saw him running wide open by NFL standards and AS didn't even look his way. One was on the play where DAT got blown up. Five Steerlers were within five yards of that pass and were looking for that play. Another was early and AS just threw a rocket into the seats with no pressure.

Great job! Nothing much to add to that -I think you covered it very well.

I predicted this game in another thread- sans a run up in score by the Steelers. It was never close. Chiefs were beat before they stepped on the field. The whole team knows Alex would not lead them to a win.

They have zero heart-one more loss to cap off the season. Andy will end up losing his last 5 of 6 and missing the playoffs. Add that to last year's ending and it makes a trend. If he is not fired (which he won't be) he should at least be stripped of play calling duties.

Hard to believe they resigned Alex to an extension-why not wait until the end of the season? Did they really think this heartless, emotionless, robot game manager would break the bank in free agency? Clark continues to make the same types of dumb decisions his father did. Bad first round picks, bad choices at QB, D line, O line, Wr's.

We literally have Nothing to build a franchise around-because they have saddled this city to Smith. Not only giving up valuable picks to get him, stubbornly refusing to see what he is. They also failed to build any kind of team around him that would capitalize on his strengths and help hide his glaring weaknesses. Instead chose to protect him with the worst O line in chiefs history and give him a record breaking receiving corp-worst in NFL history at this point.

Another Chiefs year down the drain. Another disappointing heartless loss. Another big game we knew the Chiefs would never win. Another year of being a Chiefs fan and watching them fumble, bumble, sputter and choke to another forgettable year.

I think him not showing up today had a lot more to do with external factors than himself.

Our offense just sucks all around. The offensive line doesn't open up any holes without serious misdirection, Reid doesn't stick with the ground game to save his dick, and Alex's unwillingness to throw the ball down the field effectively forces us to face 8 man fronts week in and week out.

He had a fumble today, yeah. He fumbles every once in a while, yeah. The thing is, and why I'm so critical of Smith and not of the greatest playmaker this franchise has ever witnessed, Jamaal's production FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR outweighs his gaffes. You say he's lost 3 fumbles all year? I say he's squeaked out at least 400 yards and 5 or so TDs that the average back would have had no prayer in making. Look no further than this ****ing team. Knile is averaging what now? It's got to be dangerously close to 2.9 YPC. Jamaal is averaging 5 despite not being given enough carries to find any kind of rhythm.

He's our best and most consistent player and has been since he took the starting spot back in 2009. He's played big in big games and he's done it often. He had, probably, his best game of the season against the Seahawks not long ago. He had 3 TDs against the Patriots. He does play well in big games.

....one recurring phrase sums it up.

NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Agreed with Virus here. Charles is the main focus for every defensive cordinator we face. Teams are selling out to stop him. Alex has a chance to get some respect and back up the defense up and he misses a wide upen wilson that could've been a easy seven. If Alex plays like a 68 mil like he should the oline looks better, Rb look better and a receivers are getting more balls, but alex keeps doing it to himself by dinking and dunking and drawing everything towards the line of scrimmage.

And this is exactly why I couldn't believe they did N-O-T-H-I-N-G this past off season. Most surprising because both Dorsey and Reid had bad seasons with GB and Philly respectively when they had OL issues. To have a JAG OL Plus JAG WR's in addition to a JAG QB is a recipe for exactly what happened this year in KC. Saw this coming as did most. When you consider they didn't build on the success of last year, it's even more of a waste than just looking at this season in a singular sense.

"If You Cant Score Touchdowns You Dont Deserve to go to The Playoffs".

Theres your 2015 motto that hangs above the lockerroom exit.

But.. But.. But.. The game was close! There was no need to risk trying for the TD! Play it safe and take the points!

This pussy ass franchise and its brain washed fans. TD win most games. Score more and win more. **** this playing not to lose bullshit.

Yeah, thanks for reminding me. Not only would that Wilson overthrow have put us ahead, it also would have changed the defensive fronts we'd have face from that point on. We're talking larger running lanes and more room for our speedsters to work underneath the deep coverage.

Just an egregious overthrow.

Disagree on this. Jamaal is not built to take the pounding he does by DL and LB's. Our offensive line is so bad that he can't get past first level tackles very often. Sure some of it is his fault but I think we need major upgrades on the OL.


Kelce can't seem to hold on to the ball to save his life. I'm tired of him fumbling it EVERYTIME he makes a catch.

Did you see how much more time Benny R. had compared to Smith? It's pathetic how bad our O-line is.

I have an honest, not judging question:

Why do people do this? I don't understand it at all.

And also, I love ya gblowfish... but seriously cant believe that you're on the JC is a dog bandwagon, holy shit dude, stop blaming him... in the words of Sweet Daddy "its like blaming sugar for being sweet".

"He doesnt show up in big games?"... he shows up in NINETY NINE PERCENT OF GAMES, how about SOMEONE ELSE showing up once in a while?

All things considered, I think the defense has played respectable this season and overall is better than last year. They don't give up nearly as many big plays as they did last year.


It's the Chiefs offense that needs work. They can't score TDs at critical moments. Alex Smith is a horrible red zone QB. It's not just him though. There is a myriad of problems, but the QB is always going to take the bulk of the blame.

On that note, to be honest I'd be a liar if I said I didnt think Reid should've taken the three right before half... we get the ball next half only down 1.

This

And yes, I'm going to say it, and not that they are all to blame... but Houston and Hali, where do they go in crunch time?

You can almost always count on the pass rush to disappear against a) Denver and b) against decent road teams... no, its not all on them of course, but to say they dont disappear during crucial stretches is a LIE.

Charles did not choke. That is ignorant.

He did not fumble, which other than picking the wrong hole over and again, is about the only way a RB can choke. He was given a dozen touches. That isn't the fault of Charles, but the Crisco-sweating mother****er holding the laminated sheet on the sideline.

Jamaal is not a between the guards runner. Reid keeps insisting that Charles runs up the center. He needs to run and catch the ball in space. 7 out of his measly 9 runs were over the center. Thats not his game. Thats on Reid.

Charles is an excellent runner between the tackles. He always has been.

Exactly.

The other team's players play the game too

Nice write up. I agree with all of it but I'm not gonna blame Houston or Charles for much. Yeah that fumble sucked. Was it possible that he was down or did the ball start coming loose before his knee went down? Either way, he's gotta hold on to the ball.

And I'm just tired of Alex Smith. I've held off on blowing up on the dude here because A) there are tons of posters here who pretty much have that covered and do a better job of it than I ever could and B) I've felt kinda bad for him behind that awful, awful line. But NOW? I'm just done with the guy. **** him. When we have a 3rd down passing situation, not only am I shocked if we pick up the first down, but I'm shocked when it doesn't end up with either a sack or him being flushed out of the pocket only to throw the ball away or check it down for a 1 yard gain. It's just incredible how limited our offense is with this guy. He has pretty decent ability to keep plays alive and scramble out of trouble, but it never amounts to anything. Like....EVER. I see guys wide open on replays way too ****ing much. He's just gotta quit being a pussy and let guys make a play sometimes.

A serious point made.

JC is consistently asked to beat linemen and backers, consistently being asked to pound it between the tackles... its not the recipe for success with a guy like JC, this line is absolute dogshit, everyone but Hudson can suck my dong.

Fisher? dudes a bust, he just is... no better than this at the end of his second season? **** HIM.

Merry Christmas George. At least it will be better than this miserable team.

Yep. 2 seasons and he sucks. I thought maybe he could get better and be a solid starter at LT but that was just wishful thinking. A #1 overall pick....jesus man. Just **** me with a red hot fire poker.

Our offense is not limited because of Smith. Did you see how much more time Ben-Burger had compared to Smith? Smith will stretch the field when it seems we have too and when he is able too. I go to the 3rd and 16 he hit Wilson on today.

So while Smith isn't all-world, if he always has to scramble 2 seconds after getting the ball then WTF?

However I do think he holds the ball too much at times.

The biggest play..or "non-play" was Smiths horrible pass on that bomb. He was wide open...So even if Smith has the best O-line in the NFL..if he cant make that throw...whats the point.

I was a Smith supporter...but he has had several opportunities to win games at the end. Broncos, 49ers, Cardinals...hasn't come through. KC is just about to achieve something that hasn't happened in the modern era...no WR TDs all season. Alex is the problem...the league is set-up for passing.

Pittsburgh's pass defense has been horrible all season...hence that TD that didn't happen. Smith couldn't find the endzone once....with the season on line.

Not buying it. Did you see the play Big Ben made where he threw a TD pass while being dragged down? That's a play Alex Smith doesn't make.

1 throw. QB's overthrow guys all the time. Even the Great Pey-Pey. The only problem with Smith is he only does it once a game so it's magnified when he doesn't hit.

I don't know what to tell you. Anyone who is half-ass objective can't say with any credibility that our line isn't our biggest liability. You can cherry pick plays here and there all you want.

Can he do it well? absolutely... but he's being asked to entirely too much.

Reid is giving him too many of those carries that should be designated for Davis.

Our line is absolute dog shit. I definitely agree with that. But Alex is just limited as a QB. He just is. He's way too reserved with his style. You have to be able to stretch the defense, and we have a huge sample size to demonstrate that he just can't do that. Sure, he could be sufficient enough to win a playoff game or something if all our ducks were in a row, but I don't like that we have to rely on that. We deserve an elite QB, and Alex isn't it.

Agreed. It would be different if we had a better line.

The line has it's problems yes. Won't argue that.

But Alex Smith is limited and a bigger problem.

Good take on the state of the Chiefs, George. I don't agree on your views of JC. I think you're half right on Bowe. I'd like to see him more involved in games, probably with another QB under center. Alex Smith is ball control to a fault. If the Chiefs are going in that direction, they should draft and grab only defensive players to grind down opponents offenses. The Chiefs seem to not have any identity other than " mediocre".

To stretch defenses you have to have a line that gives you time and WR's that can get open. I am not making excuses for Smith but most of the time he isn't the problem. It's just the rare times he does get protection of guys get open he seems to not see them.

He is sufficient enough to win a Super Bowl. He was a special teams play away from beating the Eli's right after he beat the Saints. Yes, he needs help in the way of a defense and running game but he isn't as bad as people are making him out to be.

Had the punt returner of SF got out of the way, Smith would have gone to a Super Bowl and your take would have been different. Just saying.

Feel no guilt my man, its perfectly reasonable to expect a second year guy who's moved back to his "natural/lol" position to make a big jump in his second year.

He hasnt, he got schooled by ancient ass James Harrison twice... hate that feeling that I've been had like this, the Chiefs are like buying my first $50 bag of weed in high school... expecting big things, a world of wonder... and I got three fingers worth of oregano instead.

I don't think he's as bad as some make him out to be, but he's just average. I was thinking to myself during the game today about how many times I've thought or said "Wow what an incredible throw by Alex Smith". It's been pretty ****in rare.

He's not a bad QB. He's average.

Reid utilizes him wrong. He shouldn't be putting the ball up 44 times a game.

The RBs should be getting 15 more carries a game collectively.

Alex Smith is limited.

Harrison is still a good player, but yeah. I feel ya. I wouldn't feel as bad about Fisher if he wasn't.....a #1 overall pick.....:banghead:

Yeah, I'm not sure you could say a guy that's averaging over 5 YPC this season and something like 5.5 over a 6 year career isn't good at doing something.

Jamaal is great between the tackles, he's great outside the tackles.

Jamaal is injury prone I guess, but he's tough and always fights through them when he can. Plus he's taken some absolutely ugly looking shots this year.

Did everyone just see that last graphic on the raiders game?

We have the same record as HOUSTON LMAO... **** this team, seriously **** them... if they're no better than them then they should just all go home.

Houston.

The Houston Texans.

The Houston Texans are just as good as the Kansas City Chiefs.

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