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Sully 01-02-2015 02:08 PM

Chip Kelly May Be Free Agent Soon?
 
Tons of rumors about Chip Kelly trying to get out of his Eagles contract.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>And all the coaching searches just froze RT <a href="https://twitter.com/DarrenDegaetano">@DarrenDegaetano</a>: Chip Kelly has expressed interest in getting out of his contract.</p>&mdash; Jeff Howe (@jeffphowe) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/551105863193485312">January 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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ToxSocks 01-02-2015 02:09 PM

Dafuq

Sully 01-02-2015 02:09 PM

Disclaimer: I don't know who the guy is who's tweet I posted. i just posted the first coherent Chip Kelly leaving rumor tweet I could find. That said, there's definitely some smoke, there.

Sully 01-02-2015 02:10 PM

One of those guys who I really wish was a Chiefs HC.

jonzie04 01-02-2015 02:11 PM

Anyone know anything more? Why on earth would he be looking to leave? He has all the talent he could ask for there.

BossChief 01-02-2015 02:11 PM

Maybe this helps Maclin or Foles to be available.

BIG_DADDY 01-02-2015 02:11 PM

Until we have a QB that can throw further than 5 yards accurately it really doesn't matter if our coach is god the almighty.

CaliforniaChief 01-02-2015 02:11 PM

Chip Kelly comes from the college world, where a 20 year contract means nothing.

ToxSocks 01-02-2015 02:11 PM

He's the guy i wanted from the start, but i doubt there is any truth to this.

Brock 01-02-2015 02:12 PM

Do people think he's good? I don't.

Sully 01-02-2015 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 11237838)
Until we have a QB that can throw further than 5 yards accurately it really doesn't matter if our coach is god the almighty.

Sanchez, sir... Sanchez looked great in his system.

BossChief 01-02-2015 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11237841)
He's the guy i wanted from the start, but i doubt there is any truth to this.

I wanted Arians.

Sully 01-02-2015 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11237843)
Do people think he's good? I don't.

I do.
I think his ideas are the next big ones in football, and obviously his system doesn't "need" a god at QB.

Discuss Thrower 01-02-2015 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11237835)
Anyone know anything more? Why on earth would he be looking to leave? He has all the talent he could ask for there.

Power struggle with Roseman.

BIG_DADDY 01-02-2015 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11237843)
Do people think he's good? I don't.

I would love to have Chip here.

ThaVirus 01-02-2015 02:18 PM

Chip Kelly May Be Free Agent Soon?
 
I think this guy's ideas suck.

His offense, however effective as far as yardage is concerned, places far too much stress on the defense with its fast pace. Plus, it was all inherited. Who has he brought in? Sproles? Literally everyone important on that offense was there before he got there.

He's not even aggressive like I thought he might be, either. The guy's asshole puckers up like most any other coach when faced with 4th down situations in pressure situations.

-King- 01-02-2015 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11237845)
Sanchez, sir... Sanchez looked great in his system.

You seem to have a different definition of great than everyone else.

Bewbies 01-02-2015 02:37 PM

I guess starting 9-3 then missing the playoffs wears a guy down...

Deberg_1990 01-02-2015 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11237830)
One of those guys who I really wish was a Chiefs HC.

Why? He's not better than what we have

-King- 01-02-2015 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11237848)
I do.
I think his ideas are the next big ones in football, and obviously his system doesn't "need" a god at QB.

What ideas? Andy Reid had as good offenses when he was there. Chip isn't doing anything ground breaking to be honest. NFL defenses make it so that his system is just a good system. Not revolutionary or anything.

Brock 01-02-2015 02:46 PM

His records in philly look just like reid's in kc.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2015 02:52 PM

Kelly was a somewhat innovative coach at Oregon whose success really came from Phil Knight's massive monetary contributions. Mark Helfrich hasn't skipped a beat and has possibly taken their program even further, as they're on the brink of their first national title.

But in Philly? There was nothing innovative. He hired a long time WCO disciple in Pat Schumer to run his offense. Foles regressed from season one under Chip and the defense didn't improve.

Going 10-6 in a very weakened NFC East is doesn't exactly inspire confidence in his NFL coaching ability.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-02-2015 02:55 PM

OFFENSE!!!! Disclaimer: at the expense of completely your defense.

ThaVirus 01-02-2015 03:07 PM

Their defense got better this year.

ChiefsCountry 01-02-2015 03:14 PM

The Redskins game was the only really bad loss for the Eagles. Guess the 49ers as well. The rest of their loses were to the NFC Playoff field - Seattle, Green Bay, Dallas, Arizona.

Mr. Laz 01-02-2015 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11237835)
Anyone know anything more? Why on earth would he be looking to leave? He has all the talent he could ask for there.

I doubt he is


He is just pulling the old college coaching trick to get a raise.

Hootie 01-02-2015 03:47 PM

he'd do wonders in San Fran with Kaepernick

Kaepernick is the QB he'd truly excel with.

RunKC 01-02-2015 03:50 PM

Pretty obvious that like Maronne, Chip Kelly is having problems with the Eagles front office.

ShortRoundChief 01-02-2015 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11237843)
Do people think he's good? I don't.

Chip Kelly is synonymous with smug prick.

kcxiv 01-02-2015 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 11238034)
Chip Kelly is synonymous with smug prick.

nothing wrong with a smug prick. There is one of them over in New England and i'd love to have a coach like him. One that puts winning first in a business where winning is everything.

HoneyBadger 01-02-2015 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11238031)
he'd do wonders in San Fran with Kaepernick

Kaepernick is the QB he'd truly excel with.

Kaepernick blows no matter who coaches him.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2015 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11237846)
I wanted Arians.

You and I both. Uncanny on just how much we see this team the same way...

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2015 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11237843)
Do people think he's good? I don't.

I don't either.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2015 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11237862)
I think this guy's ideas suck.

His offense, however effective as far as yardage is concerned, places far too much stress on the defense with its fast pace. Plus, it was all inherited. Who has he brought in? Sproles? Literally everyone important on that offense was there before he got there.

He's not even aggressive like I thought he might be, either. The guy's asshole puckers up like most any other coach when faced with 4th down situations in pressure situations.

Every bit of this.

Hootie 01-02-2015 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 11238075)
Kaepernick blows no matter who coaches him.

If he gets a coach like Kelly or Shanahan or someone who embraces the read option / running QB ... he'll be a stud, and I'll bet anyone anything.

Eleazar 01-02-2015 04:57 PM

He inherited most of the roster, so we don't have any idea if he can build an NFL team. Just that when it comes to coaching day to day, he's done alright.

That reporter is an actual reporter with an actual print publication, the Boston Herald, so he's not just some internet clown.

CoMoChief 01-02-2015 04:58 PM

Hes gonna go back to college. Saban and Meyer are literally kings ...college gigs now are much better than pro gigs in my opinion.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 11238114)
Hes gonna go back to college. Saban and Meyer are literally kings ...college gigs now are much better than pro gigs in my opinion.

The direction the league is going that would not surprise me.

BIG_DADDY 01-02-2015 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11238084)
If he gets a coach like Kelly or Shanahan or someone who embraces the read option / running QB ... he'll be a stud, and I'll bet anyone anything.

He would certainly do a lot better. He needs help reading the defense as well.

tecumseh 01-02-2015 05:04 PM

He's had his fill of pro players.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2015 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 11238114)
Hes gonna go back to college. Saban and Meyer are literally kings ...college gigs now are much better than pro gigs in my opinion.

Where? Saban's not going anywhere, Meyer's locked in at Ohio State, Harbaugh's at Michigan, Charlie Strong at Texas, David Shaw at Stanford, Kevin Sumlin's as good as anyone, etc. and so on.

I could see him at USC if they hadn't hired Sark. Maybe he goes to UCLA if Mora bolts for the NFL (which is rumored).

I could see him in Atlanta before college in 2015.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2015 05:05 PM

The thing is, if he wanted to go back to college he wouldn't need to get out of his contract would he?

Buehler445 01-02-2015 05:05 PM

I wanted him when he was talking about bolting. I wanted an innovative hungry guy.

We got a retread, and it looks to me like he isn't all that innovative.

Brock 01-02-2015 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11238122)
Where? Saban's not going anywhere, Meyer's locked in at Ohio State, Harbaugh's at Michigan, Charlie Strong at Texas, David Shaw at Stanford, Kevin Sumlin's as good as anyone, etc. and so on.

I could see him at USC if they hadn't hired Sark. Maybe he goes to UCLA if Mora bolts for the NFL (which is rumored).

I could see him in Atlanta before college in 2015.

Rumor is KU.

BIG_DADDY 01-02-2015 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11238125)
Rumor is KU.

I thought it was Washington

GloucesterChief 01-02-2015 05:37 PM

I could see Oklahoma if they fire Stoops. Miami would also be a contender if Golden gets fired.

Jim Lahey 01-02-2015 05:38 PM

Ol Chip is taking over player personnel according to the twitterverse

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2015 05:44 PM

Roseman promoted, yet demoted. Chip Kelly takes over Player Personnel

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...el-department/

Sorter 01-02-2015 05:45 PM

So if Roseman's out
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11238200)
Roseman promoted, yet demoted. Chip Kelly takes over Player Personnel

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...el-department/

and Chip is in charge, does Gamble come back?

Edit: Welp.

007 01-02-2015 05:56 PM

KU could really use him.

Eleazar 01-02-2015 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11238211)
KU could really use him.

Why would they need Chip Kelly when they have Jim Harbaugh?

SAUTO 01-02-2015 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11238029)
I doubt his is


He is just pulling the old college coaching trick to get a raise.

The guy they just fired in Philly is the one who gave Kelly his personnel power.


Huge power struggle there, rumors Kelly is wanting out and they are saying all is well to shop him around to teams who have already satisfied the rooney rule.

Coochie liquor 01-02-2015 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11238124)
I wanted him when he was talking about bolting. I wanted an innovative hungry guy.

We got a retread, and it looks to me like he isn't all that innovative.

So now Arians, Harbaugh, blah blah blah will all be retreads. I'm sure they will suck when they move to new teams.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2015 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 11238128)
I thought it was Washington

**** no. We LOVE Chris Petersen.

BIG_DADDY 01-02-2015 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Flöprer (Post 11238277)
**** no. We LOVE Chris Petersen.

LMAO

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 11238291)
LMAO

Laugh. We'll see where Oregon and Phil knight's money is in 3 years.

BIG_DADDY 01-02-2015 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der Flöprer (Post 11238308)
Laugh. We'll see where Oregon and Phil knight's money is in 3 years.

I was just yanking your chain. Chip could have recruited like a bad dog though. Good luck on your game.

TribalElder 01-02-2015 09:56 PM

Eagles say Chip Kelly will oversee player personnel department
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 2, 2015, 6:38 PM EST
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...el-department/

After a week in which reports surfaced that Eagles General Manager Howie Roseman and coach Chip Kelly were not seeing eye to eye, the team has tried to clarify the roles of both men.

In a Friday evening statement, the Eagles announced that Roseman has been elevated to Executive Vice President of Football Operations. The Eagles also said Kelly will oversee the player personnel department and lead efforts to hire a new personnel executive.

“We are a good football team and we believe these steps will help make us a great team,” Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie said in a statement.

It’s unclear exactly what Roseman’s responsibilities as Executive Vice President of Football Operations will be, but the fact that Kelly has been given control of the player personnel department seems to indicate that Kelly is going to be doing what he wants to do, and that’s running the football team. Roseman is getting a nice new title that surely comes with a corner office and a good parking space, but the early indications are that to the extent that there are disagreements between Kelly and Roseman, it will be Kelly who gets final say on anything that affects the team on the field.

So if this was a power struggle with a winner and a loser, Kelly would have to be viewed as the winner. But that’s contingent on Kelly’s team winning on the field. If the Eagles falter with Kelly calling the shots, Executive V.P. Roseman will be helping Lurie find a new coach.

Discuss Thrower 01-02-2015 10:02 PM

Roseman never played a down a football in his life.

I'm surprised he's gotten this far in the NFL.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2015 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11238627)
Roseman never played a down a football in his life.

I'm surprised he's gotten this far in the NFL.

You have a lot to learn about the world, young man.

Discuss Thrower 01-02-2015 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11238633)
You have a lot to learn about the world, young man.

You mean to say there are more than a dozen or two NFL pro personnel or scouts that didn't play one snap of NCAA ball - let alone play at least one down as a teenager-?

TribalElder 01-02-2015 10:58 PM

So will the Eagles now go full Hershel Walker RGIII for mariota?

Direckshun 01-02-2015 11:00 PM

Am I the only one who thinks Kelly is massively overrated?

-King- 01-02-2015 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11238681)
Am I the only one who thinks Kelly is massively overrated?

Did you bother to read through the thread at all?

hometeam 01-02-2015 11:55 PM

Chip wants to hook up with Mariota~

splatbass 01-03-2015 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11237903)
Why? He's not better than what we have

The grass is always greener on some other team for some of these guys, even if the team or coach isn't better than what we have now.

splatbass 01-03-2015 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 11238036)
nothing wrong with a smug prick. There is one of them over in New England and i'd love to have a coach like him. One that puts winning first in a business where winning is everything.

Every coach in the NFL puts winning first. Just because they don't all do it the way you think they should doesn't mean they don't put winning first.

mcaj22 01-03-2015 08:15 AM

Andy Reid couldnt even out muscle Howie Roseman like this in a power struggle so this is kind of crazy to me.

Red Dawg 01-03-2015 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 11237852)
I would love to have Chip here.

Hell no. The career day defense would return for sure. Chip doesn't even know a good DC.

thabear04 01-03-2015 09:20 AM

A day of rumors and innuendo regarding thePhiladelphia Eagles' power structure has ended in a double promotion.

The*Eagles*announced Friday evening that head coach*Chip Kelly*will now oversee the player personnel department, while general manager Howie Roseman will be elevated to the role of executive vice president of football operations. Roseman also received a contract extension.

The recent departure of*Eagles*vice president of player personnel Tom Gamble raised a lot of questions in Philadelphia, not to mention a*hilarious newspaper coverreferencing a power struggle between Roseman and Kelly. Gamble was known as a close confidant of Kelly's, inspiring some to wonder if Kelly could be headed elsewhere.*

Kelly will now run the scouting department, much like former coach*Andy Reid. Kelly will also lead efforts to hire a new personnel executive that will report to him. Kelly will now pick the players and will have final say over personnel decisions.

"When I said -- after the*Giants*game -- that Howie was returning as general manager next season, I meant that," owner Jeffrey Lurie said in a statement. "But after carefully listening and reflecting on the lengthy discussions that I had with our senior team, I changed my mind.

"I have a very good relationship with Chip that continues to grow stronger and stronger. When we spoke, he was thoughtful, thorough and professional. There were no demands, no threats -- quite the contrary -- he was passionate, engaged and articulated a dynamic and clear vision on how this fully integrated approach will work. We look forward to seeing it come to life over time."

This sounds like Kelly's vision come to life. Roseman gets a promotion and more money, but he loses personnel control. Roseman will continue to direct "contract negotiations, salary cap management, and NFL strategic matters, while overseeing the team's medical staff, equipment staff and more."

Roseman, only 39, rises to a title that often takes luminaries an entire career to get to. (Mike Shanahan and John Elway are two names with a similar "Executive VP" title that comes to mind.)

"Philadelphia is my home and the*Eagles*are my family. My number one goal is to help bring a championship to this city and that will never change," Roseman said in a statement. "I believe this will solidify the trust we have all placed in Coach Kelly."

Kelly's statement also stressed "working together" with owner Jeff Lurie and Roseman. It comes on the heels of many local reports saying that Roseman and Kelly's*working relationship was strained.

In the end, the*Eagles*will live or die with Kelly's coaching and personnel decisions. Few coaches have been able to pull this off well. If it doesn't work out for Kelly in Philadelphia, Roseman will likely outlive him with the*Eagles.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-03-2015 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 11238615)
I was just yanking your chain. Chip could have recruited like a bad dog though. Good luck on your game.

ROFL I was drinking, and a bit salty last night.

Direckshun 01-03-2015 09:33 AM

I'll say you were salty.

I've been drinking Gatorade all morning and I still can't get the taste out of my mouth.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-03-2015 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 11238615)
I was just yanking your chain. Chip could have recruited like a bad dog though. Good luck on your game.

Honestly though, I'm sure we'd love to have the guy and I'm not even a huge fan personally. All I know is it's hard talking any shit too you because over the last decade you've been beating up the reeruned kid on your way to the prom every year. I'm hoping Petersen can change that, but honestly, I have my doubts about him too. Time will tell...

Mr. Flopnuts 01-03-2015 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11239043)
I'll say you were salty.

I've been drinking Gatorade all morning and I still can't get the taste out of my mouth.

ROFL :Lin: ROFL

SAUTO 01-03-2015 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11239043)
I'll say you were salty.

I've been drinking Gatorade all morning and I still can't get the taste out of my mouth.

OMG ROFL

WhiteWhale 01-03-2015 11:18 AM

So the Eagles are basically giving Kelly full control.

That worked out so well for Philly last time, what could go wrong?

ThaVirus 01-03-2015 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 11239176)
So the Eagles are basically giving Kelly full control.

That worked out so well for Philly last time, what could go wrong?


Yeah, those were my thoughts.

Isn't that what marked Reid's downfall in Philly?

Rausch 01-03-2015 11:31 AM

Chip Kelly just let LJ through the red rope...

Buehler445 01-03-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 11239176)
So the Eagles are basically giving Kelly full control.

That worked out so well for Philly last time, what could go wrong?

CHAMPIONSHIP MOTHER****ER.


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