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Chiefs Pantalones 01-18-2015 11:32 AM

Kubiak plans to accept Broncos HC offer if offered
 
According to Schefter.

Bowser 01-18-2015 11:33 AM

Well of course he will.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-18-2015 11:34 AM

Have fun with those bootlegs, Peyton.

Simply Red 01-18-2015 11:35 AM

Has Peyton even indicated that he'll be back? Did I miss that?

Chiefs Pantalones 01-18-2015 11:35 AM

Does Manning come back if he is the choice? Sorry if it has been discussed.

Red Dawg 01-18-2015 11:36 AM

Elway is now regurgitating previous Donkey coaches. Idiot.

Bowser 01-18-2015 11:36 AM

Peyton is less than a thousand yards away from 70,000 passing yards in his career. Of course he's coming back. Records are what drive this guy.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2015 11:38 AM

That should bring some nice FAIL, Peyton or not.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-18-2015 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 11275658)
Has Peyton even indicated that he'll be back? Did I miss that?

He's skipping the Pro Bowl "to get healthy".....

Healthy for what?

My guess is he's coming back next year.

Discuss Thrower 01-18-2015 11:41 AM

AFC West: the home of retread coaches.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 11275665)
He's skipping the Pro Bowl "to get healthy".....

Healthy for what?

My guess is he's coming back next year.

He's probably skipping the Pro Bowl because, well, **** the Pro Bowl.

The Pro Bowl is for the accumulation of accolades for RB's, pass-rushers and fatties, so that Chiefs fans and fans of other garbage-heap franchises can claim they actually did something in life.

Deberg_1990 01-18-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11275654)
Well of course he will.

Heh, Would he have even interviewed if he didn't intend to accept the job if offered?


Dumb headline is dumb

nychief 01-18-2015 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11275670)
AFC West: the home of retread coaches.



er, the nfl.

TribalElder 01-18-2015 11:44 AM

It's like dropping a smelly as hell fart in the Mexican isle at the grocery store and watching the density of shoppers disappate.

Watch and lol

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2015 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11275670)
AFC West: the home of retread coaches.

This coming season will be epic. They'll build it up, shit themselves against a varsity squad, and perform the standard one and done. The Reitardation and Alexcuses will flow like living water from the throne of Heaven, and idiots will call it a "winning season".

I swear; the Chiefs are like my FAVORITE car crash to ever happen in the history of mankind.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-18-2015 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11275672)
He's probably skipping the Pro Bowl because, well, **** the Pro Bowl.

The Pro Bowl is for the accumulation of accolades for RB's, pass-rushers and fatties, so that Chiefs fans and fans of other garbage-heap franchises can claim they actually did something in life.

This is the first time he has skipped the pro-bowl in a season where he didn't make the Super Bowl or wasn't healthy enough...

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2015 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 11275679)
This is the first time he has skipped the pro-bowl in a season where he didn't make the Super Bowl....

He's embarrassed, and he rightfully should be. He's a mother****ing loser that should probably never show his face on a football field again.

He should stick to making "witty" commercials that double as shiny objects for Hootie to chase after while spit-bubbling with reeruned glee.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-18-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11275683)
He's embarrassed, and he rightfully should be. He's a mother****ing loser that should probably never show his face on a football field again.

He should stick to making "witty" commercials that double as shiny objects for Hootie to chase after while spit-bubbling with reeruned glee.

The perennial choke artist, and this is the first year you think he is embarrassed?

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-18-2015 12:00 PM

Crap, this means they'll soon be getting top 5 draft picks every year.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-18-2015 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 11275665)
He's skipping the Pro Bowl "to get healthy".....

Healthy for what?

My guess is he's coming back next year.

Yeah I think he is too. A 70% Manning is still better than the other AFC West QBs sadly.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-18-2015 12:04 PM

Then there are those who wonder otherwise:

@MileHighReport: Per @RapSheet, some NFL GMs wonder if John Elway is building a team engineered for Peyton not returning #Broncos http://t.co/sdaQ4dHayz

Red Dawg 01-18-2015 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 11275697)
Then there are those who wonder otherwise:

@MileHighReport: Per @RapSheet, some NFL GMs wonder if John Elway is building a team engineered for Peyton not returning #Broncos http://t.co/sdaQ4dHayz

No. He wants him back.

Randallflagg 01-18-2015 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11275673)
Heh, Would he have even interviewed if he didn't intend to accept the job if offered?


Dumb headline is dumb


He had already "decided" to stay on as OC at Baltimore.....then the magic happened and suddenly he "forgot" how much he loves Baltimore and how much "more" he loves Denver.

I'm sure that he will take Denver down the same road that he took Houston. Oh wait. After he screws up a season - Elway will decide that he then "hates" the "Kubes" more than he loves him.

Honestly, I look for Manning to hang it up.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 11275685)
The perennial choke artist, and this is the first year you think he is embarrassed?

The embarrassment has climaxed. He can no longer look at himself in the mirror much less face a squad of talented, Pro Bowl players. His Pro Bowl "performance"( choke )would be the cherry on top of the dog shit sundae that IS is career.

Buck 01-18-2015 01:24 PM

I'm ok with this.

Stewie 01-18-2015 01:26 PM

I'll take the job, too, if offered.

ILChief 01-18-2015 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 11275829)
I'll take the job, too, if offered.

I would rather be their GM so I could trade the Chiefs 10 first round picks for Frank zombo

Rain Man 01-18-2015 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiStateNo (Post 11275701)
He had already "decided" to stay on as OC at Baltimore.....then the magic happened and suddenly he "forgot" how much he loves Baltimore and how much "more" he loves Denver.

I'm sure that he will take Denver down the same road that he took Houston. Oh wait. After he screws up a season - Elway will decide that he then "hates" the "Kubes" more than he loves him.

Honestly, I look for Manning to hang it up.



So we have come full circle. Elway is now running the Broncos and making underhanded deals to get a quarterback from the 1983 draft class to reject Baltimore.

PunkinDrublic 01-18-2015 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11275661)
Peyton is less than a thousand yards away from 70,000 passing yards in his career. Of course he's coming back. Records are what drive this guy.

He's working to break Favres record of throwing clutch interceptions in the postseason.

King_Chief_Fan 01-18-2015 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 11275824)
I'm ok with this.

Its win win for chiefs matter if it is oakland or denver

splatbass 01-18-2015 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11275670)
AFC West: the home of retread coaches.

Huh? Since 2010 the Chiefs had a first time HC in Todd Haley, the Broncos had Josh McDaniel, Oakland had Dennis Allen, Hue Jackson and Tom Cable and the Chargers have Mike McCoy.

And none of them have been that good.

Buehler445 01-18-2015 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11275894)
I would rather be their GM so I could trade the Chiefs 10 first round picks for Frank zombo

ROFL.

Hired mother****er.

ThaVirus 01-18-2015 06:08 PM

Should we be worried?

Easy 6 01-18-2015 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11278062)
Should we be worried?

His record says he isnt even as good as Fox.

Hammock Parties 01-18-2015 06:10 PM

poverty shanahan

Lex Luthor 01-18-2015 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11278065)
His record says he's NOT NEARLY as good as Fox.

FYP

listopencil 01-18-2015 06:13 PM

I've seen nothing confirming Kubiak either way. I did read an article earlier today that said that there was a point where Elway wanted Kubiak over Fox. It was at the end of the season. Houston had a shitty year and it looked like Kubiak was going to be fired, Elway had already agreed to come into the Bronco FO and wanted to ask him. Kubiak stuck around for another year and the Broncos hired Fox though. I'll see if I can dig it up.

listopencil 01-18-2015 06:16 PM

It was from the Denver Post so take it with a grain of salt. Someone quoted a chunk of an article:

In 2010, Kubiak lost the next-to-last game of the season (on a touchdown run by Tim Tebow in his first Broncos home start). Elway had agreed with Pat Bowlen to take over the Broncos’ football operations, and Kubiak was expected to be fired in Houston. Kubiak would have been Elway’s choice as coach in 2011, but the Texans’ owner gave Kubiak an extension.



Al Bundy 01-18-2015 08:28 PM

Looks like it is happening for sure

keg in kc 01-18-2015 08:30 PM

Big upgrade from Fox IMO. I'm not thrilled by this as a rival fan.

ChiefsCountry 01-18-2015 08:31 PM

Its always been common knowledge that the only head coaching jobs that Kubiak would take was Denver and the Texas teams.

thabear04 01-18-2015 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 11278085)
I've seen nothing confirming Kubiak either way. I did read an article earlier today that said that there was a point where Elway wanted Kubiak over Fox. It was at the end of the season. Houston had a shitty year and it looked like Kubiak was going to be fired, Elway had already agreed to come into the Bronco FO and wanted to ask him. Kubiak stuck around for another year and the Broncos hired Fox though. I'll see if I can dig it up.

John Elway believed he needed a new coach to get the*Denver Broncos*to the "next level." The executive vice president trusts his former backup quarterback to take them to that promise land.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Sunday the*Broncos*are finalizing a four-year contract with*Baltimore Ravensoffensive coordinator*Gary Kubiak*to become Denver's new head coach, according to a*Broncos*source. The Denver Post first reported the story.

The 53-year-old Kubiak emerged as Elway's top choice since the team parted ways withJohn Fox*after a disastrous playoff exit. Kubiak spent his entire nine-year playing career as a backup quarterback to Elway in Denver.

In Kubiak, Elway has found a close confidante that believes in similar philosophies. That starts with a dynamic running game and zone blocking scheme that helped Elway win two titles as a player. In Denver, Houston and then Baltimore, Kubiak' scheme has helped running backs produce massive numbers.

With*C.J. Anderson,*Ronnie Hillman*andMontee Ball*on the*Broncos*roster, Kubiak should have plenty of options to ride in Denver. NFL Media's Albert Breer confirms Kubiak will likely hire*Ravens*quarterbacks coach*Rick Dennison*as the*Broncos' offensive coordinator.

After a year coaching quarterbacks in San Francisco, Kubiak followed Mike Shanahan to Denver where he spent 11 seasons as the team's offensive coordinator. The coordinator helped Elway capture two*Super Bowl*Championships in 1997 and 1998.

In eight seasons in Houston, Kubiak compiled a 61-64 regular-season record. Just three of Kubiak's teams in Houston earned a record above .500. However, he led the*Texans*to two playoff victories in franchise history and 10-plus wins in 2011 and 2012

The bigger question mark is with the quarterback position, where all eyes will turn to*Peyton Manning's decision regarding his future. The 38-year-old quarterback doesn't have the mobility generally needed to run Kubiak's West Coast style of offense, but any decent coach would welcome tailoring his offense to a future*Hall of Fame quarterback.

While Manning's decision is pivotal, Elway still has a roster built to win now. He didn't view Fox as the man to push them over that hill and onto the*Super Bowl*platform. He trusts Kubiak can.

BigMeatballDave 01-18-2015 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 11278809)
Big upgrade from Fox IMO. I'm not thrilled by this as a rival fan.

Don't care about this at all.

I'm more worried about the Chiefs improving than division rivals. Manning is done. **** them.

GoChargers 01-18-2015 08:42 PM

LMAOOOOO... might as well have just kept Fox.

keg in kc 01-18-2015 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11278872)
Don't care about this at all.

I'm more worried about the Chiefs improving than division rivals. Manning is done. **** them.

We're handicapped by Reid and Smith. Don't see us as a real contender until at least one of them is gone. We might get the division at some point but we'll still be outclassed by the rest of the conference.

Mile High Mania 01-18-2015 08:48 PM

Well, welcome home, Kubiak.

Will be interesting to see who fills out the OC/DC positions. I'm sure Manning returns, they need to decide if Frankenstein is the serious #2 ... if not, go get a better #2 guy.

Resign DT, let Julius and Welker walk... resign Pot Roast, Franklin and a few other core guys.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-18-2015 08:50 PM

Like I've said for over a month. The beginning of the end has begun.

listopencil 01-18-2015 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 11278869)
John Elway believed he needed a new coach to get the*Denver Broncos*to the "next level." The executive vice president trusts his former backup quarterback to take them to that promise land.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Sunday the*Broncos*are finalizing a four-year contract with*Baltimore Ravensoffensive coordinator*Gary Kubiak*to become Denver's new head coach, according to a*Broncos*source. The Denver Post first reported the story.

The 53-year-old Kubiak emerged as Elway's top choice since the team parted ways withJohn Fox*after a disastrous playoff exit. Kubiak spent his entire nine-year playing career as a backup quarterback to Elway in Denver.

In Kubiak, Elway has found a close confidante that believes in similar philosophies. That starts with a dynamic running game and zone blocking scheme that helped Elway win two titles as a player. In Denver, Houston and then Baltimore, Kubiak' scheme has helped running backs produce massive numbers.

With*C.J. Anderson,*Ronnie Hillman*andMontee Ball*on the*Broncos*roster, Kubiak should have plenty of options to ride in Denver. NFL Media's Albert Breer confirms Kubiak will likely hire*Ravens*quarterbacks coach*Rick Dennison*as the*Broncos' offensive coordinator.

After a year coaching quarterbacks in San Francisco, Kubiak followed Mike Shanahan to Denver where he spent 11 seasons as the team's offensive coordinator. The coordinator helped Elway capture two*Super Bowl*Championships in 1997 and 1998.

In eight seasons in Houston, Kubiak compiled a 61-64 regular-season record. Just three of Kubiak's teams in Houston earned a record above .500. However, he led the*Texans*to two playoff victories in franchise history and 10-plus wins in 2011 and 2012

The bigger question mark is with the quarterback position, where all eyes will turn to*Peyton Manning's decision regarding his future. The 38-year-old quarterback doesn't have the mobility generally needed to run Kubiak's West Coast style of offense, but any decent coach would welcome tailoring his offense to a future*Hall of Fame quarterback.

While Manning's decision is pivotal, Elway still has a roster built to win now. He didn't view Fox as the man to push them over that hill and onto the*Super Bowl*platform. He trusts Kubiak can.

Yeah I just saw something very similar to that. If it happens, I'm not terribly excited about the prospect of Dennison as OC but I would be much more concerned with who they would go with for DC. I still wonder what Dennis Allen is up to. I wonder if he'd take the job back.

Mile High Mania 01-18-2015 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11278928)
Like I've said for over a month. The beginning of the end has begun.

Depends on how you look at it, I suppose. They shot for the moon the last few seasons, fell short. Nice effort - crap playoff results. So, time to plan for at least 1 more year with Manning, but look 4-5 years down the road with these players in a post-Manning era.

I applaud the house cleaning after that debacle on Sunday... time for change.

Mile High Mania 01-18-2015 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 11278947)
Yeah I just saw something very similar to that. If it happens, I'm not terribly excited about the prospect of Dennison as OC but I would be much more concerned with who they would go with for DC. I still wonder what Dennis Allen is up to. I wonder if he'd take the job back.

If they're getting the band back together... Wade Phillips? Kinda on the old side.

listopencil 01-18-2015 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11278961)
If they're getting the band back together... Wade Phillips? Kinda on the old side.

I'd rather go with Allen if he'd take it.

stevieray 01-18-2015 08:59 PM

this is a good hire for them.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-18-2015 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11278952)
Depends on how you look at it, I suppose. They shot for the moon the last few seasons, fell short. Nice effort - crap playoff results. So, time to plan for at least 1 more year with Manning, but look 4-5 years down the road with these players in a post-Manning era.

I applaud the house cleaning after that debacle on Sunday... time for change.

Yeah, I'm not trolling. I believe it's over. Time to find out what Elway really has. That said, I have to give him kudos for saying enough is enough now versus next year after a 7-9 season.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-18-2015 09:46 PM

Yeah...more shit running backs looking decent from his system

Mr_Tomahawk 01-18-2015 09:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>People who know tell me Peyton Manning doesn&#39;t fit Gary Kubiak offense, so coach would have to use QB&#39;s system if player returns.</p>&mdash; Ed Werder (@Edwerderespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/557018732375994368">January 19, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

eDave 01-18-2015 09:51 PM

Has Kubiak been a HC before? Or is this just fraternal?

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2015 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11279175)
Has Kubiak been a HC before? Or is this just fraternal?

Houston Texans from 2006-2013. 2-2 playoff record.

eDave 01-18-2015 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11279182)
Houston Texans from 2006-2013. 2-2 playoff record.

I feel silly.

Brock 01-18-2015 09:57 PM

Chiefs and zeroes fan assured me this would never happen.

FloridaMan88 01-18-2015 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11278910)
Well, welcome home, Kubiak.

Will be interesting to see who fills out the OC/DC positions. I'm sure Manning returns, they need to decide if Frankenstein is the serious #2 ... if not, go get a better #2 guy.

Resign DT, let Julius and Welker walk... resign Pot Roast, Franklin and a few other core guys.

It is a terrible hire by Elway.

If Elway thinks he can re-create an offense to protect Manning the same way Kubiak and Shanahan created an offense to help Elway win two Super Bowls at the end of his career… he is overlooking several key differences:

1) Alex Gibbs zone blocking scheme is not in place.
2) Terrell Davis is not walking through that door.
3) Manning is far more washed up than Elway was.

Houston imploded in Kubiak's final season there and he basically had a nervous breakdown. He will be under intense pressure to deliver a Super Bowl in what will likely be Manning's final season next year… and he doesn't have a good track record of handling adversity or pressure well as a HC.

listopencil 01-18-2015 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11279199)
Houston imploded in Kubiak's final season there and he basically had a nervous breakdown.

Are you referring to Kubiak's mini-stroke?

eDave 01-18-2015 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 11279221)
Are you referring to Kubiak's mini-stroke?

So, about that... Chance of recurring?

bowener 01-18-2015 10:10 PM

Houston will give up 2 firsts for Manning.

listopencil 01-18-2015 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11279228)
So, about that... Chance of recurring?

I have no idea. If he had undiagnosed circulatory problems that led to it then I would say the chance is small because he's probably getting treatment that he wasn't getting before it happened.

Deberg_1990 01-18-2015 10:15 PM

Took him 6-7 seasons for him to make the playoffs in Houston


They almost always played down to expectations.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2015 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11279199)
It is a terrible hire by Elway.

If Elway thinks he can re-create an offense to protect Manning the same way Kubiak and Shanahan created an offense to help Elway win two Super Bowls at the end of his career… he is overlooking several key differences:

1) Alex Gibbs zone blocking scheme is not in place.
2) Terrell Davis is not walking through that door.
3) Manning is far more washed up than Elway was.

Houston imploded in Kubiak's final season there and he basically had a nervous breakdown. He will be under intense pressure to deliver a Super Bowl in what will likely be Manning's final season next year… and he doesn't have a good track record of handling adversity or pressure well as a HC.

Kubrick is known for his zone blocking schemes. Eight different running backs have had at least 1,000 yard seasons under Kuniak. The Ravens had their most productive offense under him in the Flacco era.

Elway and Kubiak are buds. Kubiak runs Elway's favorite offensive scheme, which will help him identify players who excel in that scheme. Kubiak's had some prior success as a head coach and just spent a year in Baltimore, which had to be a good learning experience.

Unfortunately for us Chiefs fans, I think this is a very, very good hire. I just hope he doesn't get Vic Fangio to run the defense.

FloridaMan88 01-18-2015 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 11279221)
Are you referring to Kubiak's mini-stroke?

Yes. His team imploded and he cracked under the pressure.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2015 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11279241)
Took him 6-7 seasons for him to make the playoffs in Houston


They almost always played down to expectations.

Rick Smith is and was an awful GM. Kubiak just finished the year in Baltimore where they had the best offense since they drafted Flacco.

Throw out that awful 2-14 season, where Schaub hit the wall and he was forced to play an undrafted free agent QB, and he looks pretty damn good.

Red Dawg 01-18-2015 10:23 PM

Kubes is eh? So effing what.

notorious 01-18-2015 10:23 PM

Denver is planning for the future with Kubiak. If Manning comes back, it will be his show for one more year, but make no mistake, after Manning is gone we will get to see the bootleg offense that fisted our defensive ends over and over.

Red Dawg 01-18-2015 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11279252)
Kubrick is known for his zone blocking schemes. Eight different running backs have had at least 1,000 yard seasons under Kuniak. The Ravens had their most productive offense under him in the Flacco era.

Elway and Kubiak are buds. Kubiak runs Elway's favorite offensive scheme, which will help him identify players who excel in that scheme. Kubiak's had some prior success as a head coach and just spent a year in Baltimore, which had to be a good learning experience.

Unfortunately for us Chiefs fans, I think this is a very, very good hire. I just hope he doesn't get Vic Fangio to run the defense.

Their best offense? Big whoopy doo. They needed us to get in the playoffs.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2015 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 11279269)
Their best offense? Big whoopy doo. They needed us to get in the playoffs.

He had a better offense than Jim Caldwell, who just had a pretty good season with the Lions.

If Denver has decent QB play, they're going to be a tough out, as usual.

listopencil 01-18-2015 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11279253)
Yes. His team imploded and he cracked under the pressure.

So...you think stress caused his blood to clot?

FloridaMan88 01-18-2015 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11279252)
Kubrick is known for his zone blocking schemes. Eight different running backs have had at least 1,000 yard seasons under Kuniak. The Ravens had their most productive offense under him in the Flacco era.

Elway and Kubiak are buds. Kubiak runs Elway's favorite offensive scheme, which will help him identify players who excel in that scheme. Kubiak's had some prior success as a head coach and just spent a year in Baltimore, which had to be a good learning experience.

Unfortunately for us Chiefs fans, I think this is a very, very good hire. I just hope he doesn't get Vic Fangio to run the defense.

Manning has one season left… so in one offseason Kubiak and Manning are going to learn how to co-exist even though Manning's lack of mobility makes him not an ideal fit for Kubiak's offense?

Also Denver is going to have to adjust their offensive line in one offseason to fit Kubiak's preferred zone blocking scheme.

This seems to be asking for a lot of adjustments/changes to happen in one offseason/season.

notorious 01-18-2015 10:30 PM

Denver won't change their offense to a full Kubiak offense if Peyton comes back.


Like I said, they are planning for AFTER Manning with the Kubiak hire.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2015 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11279277)
Manning has one season left… so in one offseason Kubiak and Manning are going to learn how to co-exist even though Manning's lack of mobility makes him not an ideal fit for Kubiak's offense?

Also Denver is going to have to adjust their offensive line in one offseason to fit Kubiak's preferred zone blocking scheme.

This seems to be asking for a lot of adjustments/changes to happen in one offseason/season.

I'll be surprised if Manning comes back. Personally, I don't believe that Elway wants him back because if he had, he wouldn't have fired everyone.

FloridaMan88 01-18-2015 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11279265)
Denver is planning for the future with Kubiak. If Manning comes back, it will be his show for one more year, but make no mistake, after Manning is gone we will get to see the bootleg offense that fisted our defensive ends over and over.

With Brock Osweiler? He makes Manning look like Russell Wilson.

Kubiak doesn't have a great track record of drafting/developing QB's as OC or HC. Brian Griese anyone?

Chiefshrink 01-18-2015 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11278062)
Should we be worried?

NOPE ! Kubiak is 'peter principled' out at the OC position. He had 8 yrs with the Texans to get it right and why he wasn't fired earlier is beyond me. Kubiak is not inspiring at all and his body language on the sideline during games is very telling and why players were not motivated under this guy. Now Elway has in his mind his 'yes man' and something tells me it won't be as smooth as they think especially when Manning is finally gone.

Mile High Mania 01-18-2015 10:37 PM

Who knows at this point? They're moving on and if Peyton decides to walk away, while I'd hate it, it's going to happen at some point very soon ... I think that's the mentality here.

Hoyer, Ryan Mallet ... those are two guys I'd target for a 1 year fix, considering all the other options out there until you can draft a QB or pick up your QBoTF via trade, etc.

Again, I think Manning comes back... those two can co-exist and win for a year. This is a move for 'after Manning', but we don't know if that's now or next year.

Either way, I'm fine with Fox and company being gone - the team was just too lethargic down the stretch.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2015 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 11279298)
NOPE ! Kubiak is 'peter principled' out at the OC position. He had 8 yrs with the Texans to get it right and why he wasn't fired earlier is beyond me. Kubiak is not inspiring at all and his body language on the sideline during games is very telling and why players were not motivated under this guy. Now Elway has in his mind his 'yes man' and something tells me it won't be as smooth as they think especially when Manning is finally gone.

LMAO


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