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staylor26 01-26-2015 09:52 PM

Mock Offseason
 
Re-sign:

Houston
Hudson
Parker
Mauga
Harris
Martin


Re-structure:

Hali
Bowe

Cut:

DeVito
Avery
Fasano
Jenkins
Mays

FA:

BJ Raji, NT/DE, Packers- one year deal. Gives him a year to prove himself and earn one good last contract and gives us a potential one year steal.

Virgil Green, TE, Broncos- we need a blocking TE. Would also be nice to see the Broncos lose both him and Thomas.

Cecil Shorts, WR, Jaguars- Dorsey loves taking chances on guys with an injury history and Shorts seems like the typical Dorsey signing. When healthy he's a starting quality wideout. Will push give Wilson and draft pick competition.

Draft:

1. La'el Collins, OT/OG, LSU- just plug him in at LG and profit. With the addition of Collins, return of Jeff Allen, and development of Fisher and Fulton I fully expect this line to be much better in 2015.

2. Rashad Greene, WR, FSU- this is what we need at WR. A guy with very good speed that runs great routes and gets separation. He can come in day one and start opposite of Bowe. Him and Shorts give us two guys that can consistently get open.

3. Cody Prewitt, S, Ole Miss- I think Prewitt makes it to the 3rd round and when he does the Chiefs won't hesitate to select the former Rebel. He can play deep or in the box.

3. Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson- ILB play was awful due to injuries and lack of depth this past season. Anothony gives us a guy at a good value that can come in and compete for a starting job day one.

4. Donovan Smith, T, Penn State- this guy had a great senior bowl week and gives us depth at OT since Collins will be starting at guard.

5. Karlos Williams, RB, FSU- I think we take a back at some point (this RB class is fantastic) and Williams seems like a prospect Dorsey will be drooling over with his height/weight/speed ratio.

5. Jordan Hicks, OLB/ILB, Texas- has the upside to be DJ's future replacement, but has battled injuries. Sound like a Dorsey prospect?

5. Kasen Williams, WR, Washington- a potential sleeper with great size that can come in and compete with Da'Rick for a roster spot.

6. Ray Drew, DE, Georgia- versatile lineman with experience in a 3/4.

7. Blake Sims, QB, Alabama- a guy Reid probably likes that can get a look in camp.

7. Tyler Varga, RB/FB, Yale

Mr_Tomahawk 01-26-2015 10:17 PM

nope

jonzie04 01-27-2015 12:53 AM

i like it, at this point i dont think collins is there in the first, but who really knows how it will all unfold.i really like hicks, he has a very high celing.

Sandy Vagina 01-27-2015 08:34 AM

I don't expect Donovan Smith or Hicks to fall that far, but on the whole, this is a good offseason outcome for KC. :thumb:

RealSNR 01-27-2015 08:37 AM

It sucks. So do you.

Direckshun 01-27-2015 11:14 AM

The FA acquisitions blow chunks, but the first four/five draft picks are very strong.

Couch-Potato 01-27-2015 05:21 PM

I really like the first two picks! Wouldn't be surprised at all if those are our picks round 1 & 2.

staylor26 01-27-2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11294856)
The FA acquisitions blow chunks, but the first four/five draft picks are very strong.

I was just trying to keep the FA acquisitions as realistic as possible. I don't think anybody is going to be pleased with our free agency activity, but keeping our guys and hitting on a few of these draft picks is key.

staylor26 01-27-2015 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11294525)
It sucks. So do you.

I'd like to see yours, but you don't know jack shit. Probably haven't watched half these guys play LMAO

jd1020 01-27-2015 11:08 PM

The answer to the Chiefs WR woes: A WR that has less complete seasons than Alex Smith.

Have Anthony Fasano? Cut him to sign a blocking TE.

staylor26 01-28-2015 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11296174)
The answer to the Chiefs WR woes: A WR that has less complete seasons than Alex Smith.

Have Anthony Fasano? Cut him to sign a blocking TE.

Greene would be the starter in this scenario.

Fasano is being cut bc he's starting to become a brokedick. Green is in his prime. So yea we're upgrading our blocking TE. Is that hard to comprehend?

CleveSteve 01-28-2015 08:43 AM

This is one of the best mocks I've seen by a fan of the message boards I go on.

La'el Collins might be the best OT in the draft and if he can make the switch to OG, great. If I was drafting a LG in the first, though, I'd take Matias, who is IMO an elite LG prospect.

Green is a perfect WR for the WCO, he runs the best routes in the draft.

I love Anthony in the third, he is my third favorite ILB prospect behind Dawson and McKinney.

Donovan Smith is a pretty decent selection for RT and I think you have him in the right round.

I haven't seen much of Hicks so I can't comment on that one.

Personally, I think pretty much any QB picked in the draft besides Winston and Mariota this year is a waste (except maybe Anthony Boone) but I'm not going to knock a guy for a seventh rounder.

JMO, nice work.

jd1020 01-28-2015 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11296280)
Greene would be the starter in this scenario.

Fasano is being cut bc he's starting to become a brokedick. Green is in his prime. So yea we're upgrading our blocking TE. Is that hard to comprehend?

Funny how you can believe that the Chiefs would be upgrading the TE position by getting a guy who literally has not eclipsed 100 yards receiving in his entire career.

DaneMcCloud 01-28-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11296751)
Funny how you can believe that the Chiefs would be upgrading the TE position by getting a guy who literally has not eclipsed 100 yards receiving in his entire career.

But he's right. An excellent blocking TE opposite Kelce would assist the running game, give Smith more time in the pocket and could be an occasional outlet receiver.

Also, Green has 23 catches for 206 yards for his career. He's a backup player to Julius Thomas, so those numbers are to be expected.

jd1020 01-28-2015 02:38 PM

We already have a blocking TE opposite Kelce that provides more, embarassingly, in the pass game with Alex Smith than Green does with Peyton Manning.

DaneMcCloud 01-28-2015 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11297094)
We already have a blocking TE opposite Kelce that provides more, embarassingly, in the pass game with Alex Smith than Green does with Peyton Manning.

Fasano is an oxygen theif who's also currently stealing $4 million per year.

He has to go.

jd1020 01-28-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11297103)
Fasano is an oxygen theif who's also currently stealing $4 million per year.

He has to go.

That's fine. But signing Green doesn't "improve" the TE position. He's a glorified OT.

kccrow 01-28-2015 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11297107)
That's fine. But signing Green doesn't "improve" the TE position. He's a glorified OT.

He's become an outstanding blocker, but he can catch the ball. He went to Nevada as a WR and was moved to TE. At Nevada he actually caught the ball pretty well, with over 500 yards receiving as a senior. NFL.com didn't even think he'd be a very good blocker in the pros, but thought he'd be an outstanding seam-attacking, vertical threat TE/H-back in their scouting report of him. He's got the goods if he's used that way. The very fact that he has become a devastating run blocker is the bonus. I've been mocking him into my offseason plans as well because the potential is there. A few years ago I thought the same thing of Martellus Bennett and he's turned out to be a rather good feature TE. I wouldn't count the chickens before they hatch.

jd1020 01-28-2015 08:12 PM

Bennett had more receiving yards his rookie season than Green has his whole career.

His college days are long behind him. He started 9 games last season for the Broncos and managed to only be targeted 6 times for 74 yards receiving and a 1 yard TD pass from Osweiler. With all of that ability to be a vertical threat at TE you would think he would have been drafted higher than the 7th round and would be able to manage more than 74 yards receiving in 13 games with Peyton Manning. Might as well just line up a 6th lineman and make him eligible to receive.

kccrow 01-28-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11297891)
Bennett had more receiving yards his rookie season than Green has his whole career.

His college days are long behind him. He started 9 games last season for the Broncos and managed to only be targeted 6 times for 74 yards receiving and a 1 yard TD pass from Osweiler. With all of that ability to be a vertical threat at TE you would think he would have been drafted higher than the 7th round and would be able to manage more than 74 yards receiving in 13 games with Peyton Manning. Might as well just line up a 6th lineman and make him eligible to receive.

Thomas and Tamme were the primary receiving threats featured at the position. I'm not arguing how often he was used, I'm arguing that the guy can catch the football.

DaneMcCloud 01-28-2015 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11297107)
That's fine. But signing Green doesn't "improve" the TE position. He's a glorified OT.

Jason Dunn was a "glorified" OT for the Chiefs during the Vermeil years and that offense was amazing.

Don't underestimate the benefit of a great blocking tight end.

jd1020 01-28-2015 09:09 PM

If he was a reliable target wouldn't you think he would manage to have more receiving production than a guy who didn't start a single game?

jd1020 01-28-2015 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11298015)
Jason Dunn was a "glorified" OT for the Chiefs during the Vermeil years and that offense was amazing.

Don't underestimate the benefit of a great blocking tight end.

So all we need is one of the greatest TE's of all time to line up opposite of Green and for Alex to go deep?

DaneMcCloud 01-29-2015 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11298029)
So all we need is one of the greatest TE's of all time to line up opposite of Green and for Alex to go deep?

Good grief

:facepalm:

jd1020 01-29-2015 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11298364)
Good grief

:facepalm:

Ya. I thought the same thing when you tried comparing the success of that offense to this one.

I mean... **** the HoF OL. **** the HoF TE. **** the fact that the offensive system is completely different. They had a blocking TE and it was a good offense!!


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