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DC Batgirl Cover Pulled...
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ummm, wut? http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/17/entert...led/index.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CATTg1jUsAE46Ik.jpg |
Yeah - I own an original copy of the Killing Joke, and read it before I probably should have (from an age perspective).
At the time (believe I was like 4-5 grade), it was the most disturbing thing I'd read / seen up until that point. This cover is definitely pays homage to that storyline and the events that happened in said graphic novel. To me, its all the way in which this version is marketed. The original Killing Joke shouldn't have been marketed to kids (and I don't know that it was) - but I bought one at a Comic Convention with little to no issue. I just thought, "Sweet - another Batman / Joker Annual!". The vendor happily took my money. If this version of the cover isn't put out on newstands or racks where kids can easily access it - then I don't really see the issue. |
This PC shit makes me sick.
Bunch of ****ing pussies this country has turned into. Just because something is offensive to some person or group doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. |
So would've it been a better cover if she looks pissed instead of crying or scared? Its an optional cover...don't see the big deal
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http://www.toplessrobot.com/2015/03/...over_was_t.php
Never read killing joke but this article feels the pulled cover is necessary for 8 reasons. |
I can see both perspectives. Batgirl has been one of the more progressive comics in terms of doing away with typical heroines in spandex and high heels and taking a more grounded approach. I don't think the tone of the book matches this variant cover.
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Anyone else turned on by the book cover?
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The Killing Joke:
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Pulling covers in this day and age is kind of pointless, an empty gesture since it lives forever in social media. They get more press now than ever for it. Go marketing.
I get the connection to the original cover but I also understand the perspective of those who think it's torture porn that undermines the character's recent growth. There's probably a good middle ground in there somewhere. |
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I've had more than one muggle ask me what I though about the situation today. |
What is the current tonality of the new Batgirl books?
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I completely understand the fact that Batgirl has changed focus, and is now targeted at young females. I understand that the variant doesn't fit that new focus. Nothing wrong with that. I just don't understand the response this got (especially since it is a variant cover) and the response from DC. Just thought it was strange.
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So it's the "crying" aspect you have a problem with? Well, when they turn Superman into a 20 year old hipster chic, you might just get your wish.
If the position of a superhero being completely at the mercy of a villain, those cover's are everywhere. I just posted that one since it was very close to the "held by a sexual predator" theme that most people are talking about. |
So then I'm to assume that if she had a pissed off look on her face.....everyone would be fine this cover?
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lol
She should look like she's about to go berserk and rape the joker. |
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I'm pretty sure everyone crying about being too PC doesn't even read comics or, at the very least (and most important) isn't going to buy this issue anyway. Knowing DC, they're probably pushing for this to be a story/controversy as they're dying for any sales at this point
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This blew up on reddit today. SJW war is on.
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I re-read Killing Joke while I drank my coffee this morning. It holds up. |
The original artwork doesn't imply rape to me any more than the printed artwork did. The only image that's altered is the one in the center of the third panel. She's more explicitly naked, but she was obviously naked in the printed art.
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I think one really fascinating aspect that seems to have escaped the microscope in all of this is that Barbara Gordon, AKA Oracle, ended up being a handicapped hero. Which is something we never see. And should be applauded.
The argument made a few pages back out other heroes making a full recovery is valid, but it's way more interesting to let Gordon stay paralyzed and continue to kick ass! There are so few of those heroes for those who need/deserve them. |
My only problem with it is there has been a huge push by feminists wanting more fleshed out, real characters with flaws and problems like the male characters for equality.
When it happens there is a huge outlash against it being violence against women. |
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They have this COMPLETELY backwards. I didn't read the rest of the article but clearly this guy has no idea what the **** he's on about |
Yeah, I listened to the podcast and Morrison was saying that it was Batman killing Joker.
Either way though, I appreciated the links from that article. And I don't care how hard you read that last page...it's impossible to tell what happens. |
What's the one where Joker holds all the kids hostage and when someone shows up (Gordon or maybe his wife?) he offs them?
I'm thinking it's The Killing Joke or No Man's Land. Can't remember for sure though.. |
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