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TribalElder 04-25-2015 01:57 PM

If the Chiefs draft Melvin Gordon III do the fans...
 
Have a meltdown?

Or go true fan yee haw?

TribalElder 04-25-2015 01:58 PM

Drafting Jamaals replacement LMAO

beach tribe 04-25-2015 02:07 PM

I know I'd be pissed.

Ming the Merciless 04-25-2015 02:09 PM

I don't know enough about him to be 'pissed' or have a meltdown, but just from reading our needs and BPA , and seeing what the more informed posters here on CP have to say about who we will draft....

It seems like it would be a surprise if that happened.

Thats why I went with meltdown, not because I personally would have a problem with it...although from what little I understand I would probably either do BPA , or snag a WR or a DE/pass rusher

nychief 04-25-2015 02:10 PM

Would rather have gurley.

RealSNR 04-25-2015 02:23 PM

Melvin Gordon won't be Jamaal Charles. He won't even be close.

This happens every year, especially with Wisconsin RBs. People say, "Look at this guy. He looks fantastic! He'll be a monster in the NFL," and then he ends up sucking.

Jamaal Charles is still ticking. We have Knile Davis. Sure, I hope we draft some RB depth, because you can never have enough. Thankfully this draft class is ****ing loaded with them deep into the draft. It makes zero sense to take one in the 1st, even for RB-desperate teams.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-25-2015 02:33 PM

Dumb. Dumber than even an Eric Fisher selection.

Deberg_1990 04-25-2015 02:35 PM

Always be replacing

TribalElder 04-25-2015 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11459055)
Melvin Gordon won't be Jamaal Charles. He won't even be close.

This happens every year, especially with Wisconsin RBs. People say, "Look at this guy. He looks fantastic! He'll be a monster in the NFL," and then he ends up sucking.

Jamaal Charles is still ticking. We have Knile Davis. Sure, I hope we draft some RB depth, because you can never have enough. Thankfully this draft class is ****ing loaded with them deep into the draft. It makes zero sense to take one in the 1st, even for RB-desperate teams.

So... Meltdown ROFL

The last player from Wisconsin who was impressive was.. Who Russell Wilson, or JJ Watt?

Assuming they went to Wisconsin lol

RealSNR 04-25-2015 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 11459084)
So... Meltdown ROFL

The last player from Wisconsin who was impressive was.. Who Russell Wilson, or JJ Watt?

Assuming they went to Wisconsin lol

The RBs to come from Wisconsin have been abortions. They've been Penn State-level bad.

Wisconsin has actually produced decent NFL talent at a variety of positions. Even QB now, thanks to Russell Wilson.

They haven't had a RB enter the NFL who didn't suck eggs yet. Even Ron Dayne sucked. The last RB they had who was good was before him.

And that's a long time without producing any good RBs if you're a school that has a tradition of running the ball like they do.

RealSNR 04-25-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 11459039)
Would rather have gurley.

Gurley can go get raped, too.

I would draft him in the 3rd round, but he's going to get taken in the 1st round by some dipshit team. So I've written him off. He's dead to me.

Mr. Laz 04-25-2015 03:08 PM

I want a stud, don't really care what position.

no kicker
no punter
prefer not an interior Oline
prefer not a MLB

still ... a stud, not a project ... a stud

Marcellus 04-25-2015 03:16 PM

Stupid ****ing waste of time thread. Good job.

chiefzilla1501 04-25-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 11459084)
So... Meltdown ROFL

The last player from Wisconsin who was impressive was.. Who Russell Wilson, or JJ Watt?

Assuming they went to Wisconsin lol

The point is valid. Wisconsin has a system that's very RB friendly. That being said, Ball and Clay were not nearly the prospect Gordon is.

I'm not crazy about the pick. I'd rather go with Gurley of the two, and RB is low on my list. But I don't see a problem with taking a RB if you think he has a chance to be something special. An elite RB can make a much bigger impact than an elite OL.

Mother****erJones 04-25-2015 04:48 PM

I'd love it. As a Wisconsin fan, this kid is a stud. Home run hitter like Jamaal.

BossChief 04-25-2015 05:25 PM

Gurley is gonna be a beast if he comes back 100%.

DaneMcCloud 04-25-2015 05:56 PM

I wouldn't mind Gordon in the third, after WR and ILB have been addressed.

staylor26 04-25-2015 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11459123)
Gurley can go get raped, too.

I would draft him in the 3rd round, but he's going to get taken in the 1st round by some dipshit team. So I've written him off. He's dead to me.

Idiot. Gurley is definitely worth a 1st rounder.

Mr. Laz 04-25-2015 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11459382)
I wouldn't mind Gordon in the third, after WR and ILB have been addressed.

Which is not going to happen and is not the question.


Gordon will go top of the 2nd at the very lowest. imo.

ILChief 04-25-2015 06:02 PM

CP will meltdown no matter who we pick. The clay's and sweet daddy's that either A. Don't like the Chiefs or B. Are constant trolls will gripe regardless

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-25-2015 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11459392)
CP will meltdown no matter who we pick. The clay's and sweet daddy's that either A. Don't like the Chiefs or B. Are constant trolls will gripe regardless

Not really. If they pick WR or CB, I'll be content.

God help them if another fatty flies off of round 1 though.

Reerun_KC 04-25-2015 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11459392)
CP will meltdown no matter who we pick. The clay's and sweet daddy's that either A. Don't like the Chiefs or B. Are constant trolls will gripe regardless


Yet people that carry aids will celebrate if we draft another first round OL bust like Eric Fisher...

kccrow 04-25-2015 06:17 PM

I like Gordon, but I'd probably have a meltdown. You have Jamaal Charles with a decent complimentary back and you'd be taking a #1 feature back. Not exactly what I'd call smart draft strategy.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-25-2015 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11459419)
Yet people that carry aids will celebrate if we draft another first round OL bust like Eric Fisher...

ROFL

Mav 04-25-2015 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11459122)
The RBs to come from Wisconsin have been abortions. They've been Penn State-level bad.



Wisconsin has actually produced decent NFL talent at a variety of positions. Even QB now, thanks to Russell Wilson.



They haven't had a RB enter the NFL who didn't suck eggs yet. Even Ron Dayne sucked. The last RB they had who was good was before him.



And that's a long time without producing any good RBs if you're a school that has a tradition of running the ball like they do.


James White looked good for the pats.

Mav 04-25-2015 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11459419)
Yet people that carry aids will celebrate if we draft another first round OL bust like Eric Fisher...


Enlighten me. Who should of been 1.1?

Easy 6 04-25-2015 07:05 PM

I will never lose my mind about drafting a potential once in a generation running back.

Came into this league as a runners fan and will leave as one... and backs are already starting to shake the short lived "backs are a dying breed" school of thought.

Running backs will never become obsolete, the great ones are too capable of doing too many things.

I would celebrate drafting a #1 running back, it would be unexpected, but I'd like it.

Jim Lahey 04-25-2015 07:07 PM

If Jamaal were older I'd be for it. Over Gurley too.

Mr. Laz 04-25-2015 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Lahey (Post 11459510)
If Jamaal were older I'd be for it. Over Gurley too.

Just how many seasons do you think Jamaal has left?

GloucesterChief 04-25-2015 07:42 PM

RB in first round should lead to an automatic firing of GM.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-25-2015 08:12 PM

Only if this is considered an elite Running back . I don't know about that though ?

DaneMcCloud 04-25-2015 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11459389)
Which is not going to happen and is not the question

I didn't see where he indicated the round? :shrug:

TribalElder 04-25-2015 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11459583)
I didn't see where he indicated the round? :shrug:

My bad. I figure MG3 (ewwww MG3 nick name) goes in the 1st

Never know though

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-25-2015 08:22 PM

San Diego will draft him at 17 if he's the best RB available anyway.

TribalElder 04-25-2015 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 11459604)
San Diego will draft him at 17 if he's the best RB available anyway.

I have seen that in a few mocks I think

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-25-2015 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11459537)
Just how many seasons do you think Jamaal has left?

I'd say he has 3 good seasons and 2 more so so seasons left.

But RB is not a need at this time , Knile davis may turn out to be a #1 by his third year.

TribalElder 04-25-2015 08:37 PM

It will be irritating if they compare him to jamaal every time we play San Diego

Like they try to do with Von miller and dt because of elway saying his fear of DT made him draft Con Miller

Titty Meat 04-25-2015 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11459122)
The RBs to come from Wisconsin have been abortions. They've been Penn State-level bad.

Wisconsin has actually produced decent NFL talent at a variety of positions. Even QB now, thanks to Russell Wilson.

They haven't had a RB enter the NFL who didn't suck eggs yet. Even Ron Dayne sucked. The last RB they had who was good was before him.

And that's a long time without producing any good RBs if you're a school that has a tradition of running the ball like they do.

This is stupid. Yeah PSU RB's sucked and then came along Larry Johnson.

Gordon isn't Ball, White, or Dayne. He's going to be a damn good player.

redshirt32 04-25-2015 10:15 PM

Melvin Gordon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOtS6XFXYtw

I am sure there is more than a few teams that would love to have him as there featured back.

Chiefshrink 04-26-2015 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11459123)
Gurley can go get raped, too.

I would draft him in the 3rd round, but he's going to get taken in the 1st round by some dipshit team. So I've written him off. He's dead to me.

I agree. Not impressed with his running at all. His running will not transition well to the NFL because he does not have that quick twitch type of quickness to the hole. For Gurley to be successful he will have to go to a team with a superior O-line that can open grand canyon type holes like the Chiefs O-line from 2002-2005. Hence why Larry Johnson got exposed and failed once our O-line went to mediocre and then LJ went elsewhere and failed. Gurley will not even be adequate with an average o-line whereas Gordon will still be good with an average o-line. This should tell you how special JC is because he has never played behind a great O-line. Can you imagine if he ran behind that 2002-2005 line ??? He would have the single season rushing records for sure IMO.

BlackOp 04-26-2015 01:40 AM

I'm OK with it..,people seem to think a rookie WR is going to solve KC's "no TD by a WR" BS. Wilson is going to be as good as anyone drafted in the 2nd round...in this system. It takes at least a year...I want KC to go all defense in the first 3 rounds. They arent that far away from being the top defense in the league. You pair that with with Smith not turning the ball over...you win a lot of games.

rico 04-26-2015 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 11459844)
I agree. Not impressed with his running at all. His running will not transition well to the NFL because he does not have that quick twitch type of quickness to the hole. For Gurley to be successful he will have to go to a team with a superior O-line that can open grand canyon type holes like the Chiefs O-line from 2002-2005. Hence why Larry Johnson got exposed and failed once our O-line went to mediocre and then LJ went elsewhere and failed. Gurley will not even be adequate with an average o-line whereas Gordon will still be good with an average o-line. This should tell you how special JC is because he has never played behind a great O-line. Can you imagine if he ran behind that 2002-2005 line ??? He would have the single season rushing records for sure IMO.

I notice that you say the word, "hole" quite a bit. Why do you think this is? Why do you always have holes on the mind? What is the significance of that? Do you like holes?

Eleazar 04-26-2015 05:39 AM

many 810 callers/high school dropouts/window lickers will start threads talking about flying banners

Chiefnj2 04-26-2015 05:47 AM

Which fan base? CP will have a meltdown no matter who is drafted, but especially a HB.

The regular fan base will accept it immediately. Half of CP will rationalize any first round pick within the week. It happens every year. A week after the draft and everyone thinks the team has drafted 3 immediate starters who will lead them to that mystical first round playoff win.

hometeam 04-26-2015 06:09 AM

I would be going wtf.

Most fans will true fan because they know nothing.

ILChief 04-26-2015 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11459487)
Enlighten me. Who should of been 1.1?

Most of the CP GM's wanted Dion Jordan who is about out of the league in two years

Mav 04-26-2015 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11459888)
Most of the CP GM's wanted Dion Jordan who is about out of the league in two years


I mean looking back it probably should of been Sheldon Richardson or Star. But after the reeruns accepted not getting geno, most were fine with fisher as long as it wasn't joeckell. The fact is, that draft was utter shit.

rico 04-26-2015 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11459889)
I mean looking back it probably should of been Sheldon Richardson or Star. But after the reeruns accepted not getting geno, most were fine with fisher as long as it wasn't joeckell. The fact is, that draft was utter shit.

Worst draft ever? Ever-ever? Eh-ever-ever? Ya think?

Mav 04-26-2015 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 11459891)
Worst draft ever? Ever-ever? Eh-ever-ever? Ya think?


I'm not sure about ever. But the stand out talent was scarce.

RealSNR 04-26-2015 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billay (Post 11459704)
This is stupid. Yeah PSU RB's sucked and then came along Larry Johnson.

Gordon isn't Ball, White, or Dayne. He's going to be a damn good player.

He's not going to be as good as you think. Some team is going to draft him in the 1st round and be very disappointed.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2015 07:13 AM

Vacarro.

Could have replaced the turd we sent to Houston, and would have helped our current safety situation.

And yes, the "great" Parker would still have a spot on this team.

Ugh.

Baby Lee 04-26-2015 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11459487)
Enlighten me. Who should of been 1.1?

Tom Brady!!

Mav 04-26-2015 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11459898)
Vacarro.

Could have replaced the turd we sent to Houston, and would have helped our current safety situation.

And yes, the "great" Parker would still have a spot on this team.

Ugh.


Bro. Vaccaro has been terrible.

Mav 04-26-2015 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11459897)
He's not going to be as good as you think. Some team is going to draft him in the 1st round and be very disappointed.


Gurley is going to be ****ing star.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11459911)
Bro. Vaccaro has been terrible.

He plays with the lazy-assed Saints, what do you expect?

Know who else has been terrible for that draft and pick? Any guesses?

Baby Lee 04-26-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11460000)
Know who else has been terrible for that draft and pick? Any guesses?

That's right

http://images2.mtv.com/uri/mgid:file...k&quality=0.85

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2015 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11460005)

Oh Frank... LMAO

srvy 04-26-2015 09:52 AM

I dont know much about this Gordon fellow he does seem to be a fine commissioner though.

Seriously can he hold onto the ball then maybe take a look. Jammal is getting long in tooth in running back years. Davis I dont think will ever shake the fumbleitus. I just wonder if this cant be addressed in latter rounds.

Mr. Laz 04-26-2015 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11459583)
I didn't see where he indicated the round? :shrug:

Ok, if you want to find a loophole.

Start a poll and see what happens if you ask people whether they would want to draft Gordon in the 7th round. Since the OP didn't specify.

SAUTO 04-26-2015 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11459888)
Most of the CP GM's wanted Dion Jordan who is about out of the league in two years

Link?

RealSNR 04-26-2015 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11459913)
Gurley is going to be ****ing star.


I know Tori Gurley is going to be a star.

Todd, on the other hand...

ILChief 04-26-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11460041)
Link?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=272060

OnTheWarpath15 04-26-2015 12:03 PM

Your "evidence" is a thread with 18 posts?

LMAO

SAUTO 04-26-2015 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11460181)
Your "evidence" is a thread with 18 posts?

LMAO

BUT EVERYONE WANTED HIM ROFL

OnTheWarpath15 04-26-2015 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11460199)
BUT EVERYONE WANTED HIM ROFL

I know I haven't been around much, but when did Billay become representative of "most" of CP?

milkman 04-26-2015 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11460260)
I know I haven't been around much, but when did Billay become representative of "most" of CP?

The planet has become an Idiocracy.

Titty Meat 04-26-2015 01:00 PM

Pretty dishonest debate as well. Yes I wanted Jordan because at the time he was an athletic freak coming out of college. If the options were a pass rusher or right tackle most of us this board would pick the pass rusher.

Jordan will be out of the league soon but Fisher might not be far behind if he plays like he has most of the last 2 seasons.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2015 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billay (Post 11460284)
Pretty dishonest debate as well. Yes I wanted Jordan because at the time he was an athletic freak coming out of college. If the options were a pass rusher or right tackle most of us this board would pick the pass rusher.

Jordan will be out of the league soon but Fisher might not be far behind if he plays like he has most of the last 2 seasons.

Truth.

Fisher is garbage, and indicative of a regime with it's head up its ass.

RealSNR 04-26-2015 01:18 PM

I definitely support billay's pick of Nelson Agholor at 18.

And I've also joined him in the Da'Rick Rogers Nut-Swinging Club.

SAUTO 04-26-2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11460260)
I know I hav


en't been around much, but when did Billay become representative of "most" of CP?

since he led the revolution against phobia, which I didn't agree with...

**** billay

Titty Meat 04-26-2015 01:57 PM

ROFL

chiefzilla1501 04-26-2015 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billay (Post 11460284)
Pretty dishonest debate as well. Yes I wanted Jordan because at the time he was an athletic freak coming out of college. If the options were a pass rusher or right tackle most of us this board would pick the pass rusher.

Jordan will be out of the league soon but Fisher might not be far behind if he plays like he has most of the last 2 seasons.

Fisher is not nearly as bad as Cp wants him to be. He hasn't been great, but cmon... Comparing him to dion Jordan is a bit ridiculous. Fisher will be in this league for a while. He has a lot to prove that he's a quality starter, however.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2015 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11460409)
Fisher is not nearly as bad as Cp wants him to be. He hasn't been great, but cmon... Comparing him to dion Jordan is a bit ridiculous. Fisher will be in this league for a while. He has a lot to prove that he's a quality starter, however.

You...watch Fisher play?

OnTheWarpath15 04-26-2015 02:09 PM

Fisher is a lot closer to Tony Mandarich than he is Orlando Pace.

The Chiefs had their pick of ANY player in the draft, and three years later we're still debating if he can become a quality starter.

If any other organization had drafted him we'd ALL be calling him a bust.

DaneMcCloud 04-26-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11460416)
If any other organization had drafted him we'd ALL be calling him a bust.

I disagree. If he had been drafted by the Bucs or Panthers or Jets or Browns, no one on Chiefsplanet would even know he exists at this point.

And unlike Lane Johnson, Dion Jordan, Chance Warmack, Dee Milliner, Barkevious Mingo and Tavon Austin, Fisher has had legitimate reasons for not becoming the player he should be at #1, mainly playing out of position for a season and playing injured for the better part of two seasons.

2015 will be the first season in which Fisher will be able to participate in the Chiefs offseason program. I think everyone expects his level of play to rise based on more muscle mass, participation and repetition. If his play doesn't improve this season, then he's fair game.

The other guys listed, maybe outside of Mingo, appear to be pure first round busts.

MMXcalibur 04-26-2015 02:44 PM

Take the best player available. I'd even concede a very small dip in talent level if you need to draft a position of need. I trust Reid/Dorsey to make a competent pick.

Don't go full-on "Tyson Jackson" on me though.

Eleazar 04-26-2015 02:59 PM

Half the board will melt down no matter who we pick. Everyone will see what they want to see...

Eleazar 04-26-2015 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11459881)
Which fan base? CP will have a meltdown no matter who is drafted, but especially a HB.

The regular fan base will accept it immediately. Half of CP will rationalize any first round pick within the week. It happens every year. A week after the draft and everyone thinks the team has drafted 3 immediate starters who will lead them to that mystical first round playoff win.

Oh. This

chiefzilla1501 04-26-2015 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11460416)
Fisher is a lot closer to Tony Mandarich than he is Orlando Pace.

The Chiefs had their pick of ANY player in the draft, and three years later we're still debating if he can become a quality starter.

If any other organization had drafted him we'd ALL be calling him a bust.

I hated the pick. I still do. It was a bad pick for 1.1. That is not the argument here.

But Jordan has been completely worthless. Fisher hasn't been good, but he hasn't been nearly as bad as people want him to be. He's been below average if anything.

tecumseh 04-26-2015 03:20 PM

Hoping for Agholor.


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