*****The Steven Nelson Thread*****
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Chiefs CB Steven Nelson was one of two CBs in this class to not miss a single tackle in 2014</p>&mdash; Pro Football Focus (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/594339620311212032">May 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Peace out, Marcus Cooper.

I love this pick. Great player and will be every bit as good as Flowers was, IMO. Go watch him vs Jaelen Strong.

Moarrr CBsss!

welp.

Yup I would say he is gone.

Now read the pros lol.


Every player in the 3rd round will have some knocks lol. If he didn't have any cons then he would be first round talent dumbass

I would have rather had TJ Clemings but what ever better then the last 2 picks by miles.

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had him in one of my mocks in the 4th round back in november

"4.23 Steven Nelson,cb, Oregon state

Press man corner i love. He is ridiculously aggressive, he is great at jamming guys at he los and running with them, he is also a good tackler."

still feel the same way about him, great player. i would have preferred clemmings or mcbride though. theres still a chance we can get mcbride in the 4th though.

I can't hate on this. After Smith our CB's were pretty poor.

Sounds like he's good in run support, average speed, start out as nickel corner and could become a starter with time.

Not bad...

I AM NOT HAPPY.

Good!

Well damn, you should have emailed Dorsey your mock I'm sure he would trust you.

I think we're set up pretty well for the future with Gaines, Peters, and Nelson as our top 3 CBs. Nelson should be a beast in the slot. He was all over the place at the Senior Bowl.

Chris Owens

Nickel or slow corner.

Did you have any thoughts of your own?

What? Gaines was badass late in the season.

The Chiefs had a Top 5 secondary last season and they'll be even better this year.

You need 3 solid corners these days. We went from Smith & $#it to looking deep at the position after one draft...

It also means we can stop pretending that Jalil Fleming is some great player when he really only played one game for us all year.

Same with Philip Gaines. I'm really glad we don't have to depend on his constantly injured vagina this year.

I thought Gaines looked good the 2nd half of the season.

Hard to see Cooper and Commings sticking now...

Smith
Peters
Gaines
Flemming
Nelson


I think they gone. Looks like Smith is going to be gone in 2016.

And dogshit cooper. Jamil will beat him for the 5th spot

Really only started after two other guys were injured or sucked. Didn't do bad then but I thought we used him mostly as the nickel/slot.

Peters should earn the no 2 and if Gaines and Nelson battle for the 3rd/Nickel we'll be just fine. Good, actually...

We cut Shaq Richardson, bruh

Love our depth at corner now. Smith, Gaines, Peters, Nelson, Cooper.

One thing to remember when looking at game tape of Nelson, the Beavers had one of the worst all time defensive coordinators (as you Nebraska fans will find out). He taught the dbs to play the man rather than the ball and it led to a lot of penalties. When Nelson went to the Senior Bowl with better coaching, he blossomed. With quality coaching, his technique will improve and he will end up being a pretty good corner, imo.

Gaines will be just fine. You can never have too much talent at CB. Nelson is another possible piece.

I love that the new DBs are aggressive, in your face, attitude guys.

gaines played very well for us in a lot more than 1 game.

Gonna be sad to see smith gone.

All the DBs we draft fit our scheme. Hope these two pan out.

Arguably you need 4. I love this pick. Good value for the 3rd.

Not so sure he is. We have a ton of cap next year even with Houston.

We've gone from not really having a no 2 to being possibly 4 deep.

You want an answer for Manning and the Donks?

Add quality CB's who can jam and cover and keep that elite pass rush...

If Gaines didn't impress you I have to really question your player evaluation.

This I thought Gaines looked great from what we saw of him.

If he has another season like he did last season I can see him asking for a pretty big Payday PFF had him Rated pretty high at the end of last season.

Did you not read the post you quoted?

Small sample size. We didn't get to see him in the no 2 role later in the year after other guys sucked and we had injuries.

Cooper looked decent in a small sample size as well and then looked like ass when he got his chance last year.

Also worthy of note is after this draft Parker will stay his ass at S and not see any time at CB unless something horrible happens...

Our secondary has a chance to be flat out nasty. There are going to be lots of coverage sacks. Guys, Dorsey is building a monster defense. I mean there's a lot of talent on that side of the ball.

Once Smith leaves it will be Peters and Gaines on the outside with Nelson in the slot.

Not bad. Kind of like it actually.

Need to stock up on defense with our QB.

Except for one gaping hole in the middle that we refuse to fix

What's crazy is that we also brought in 2 CBs who can attack the ball, and can flat out tackle. Hopefully force some INTs and Fumbles. Might help us blow up some screens and provide outside run support.

Been in the Qriginal post for quite some time now.

but but but he needs weapons too and a line.


Dorsey gave Smith everything he could this offseason no more excuses for this little bitch

We'll have DJ and Branch. Two tremendous upgrades in run support.

I'm excited.

In three rounds there's really only one pick I don't like and I still think the guy will be a decent player. I think the pick could have been used better but hey, this offseason Dorsey has been money so far...

Most QBs need weapons and a line

DJ must have shown amazing signs of recovery for them to neglect the position the way they have. I think they'll spend a first on it next year, DJ will probably be playing just as good as he was before so it won't be an issue this season.

That was a weird highlight tape. Lots of separation taking place and he looks small

One thing that we need to improve on dramatically this season is forcing turnovers.

Yep when an opponent scores 24 or more points Alex Smith starts throwing like Michael J Fox

Okay his run support in the USC tape in the OP is pretty goddamned impressive.

No. You need to stock up on defense because this year alone the Chiefs play against Big Ben, joe flacco, Peyton twice, rivers twice, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Stafford and Calvin Johnson.

That's half the ****ing schedule.

Really? I saw a completely mediocre player.

Terrence Copper says hello! :D

I'll take "stats that won't last" for $100, Alex

This draft is shaping up.

I'll trust Dorsey on cbs

Any chance they move him to Saftey?

He looks much more comfortable with everything in front of him. I don't see him as a press corner.

I think they will. Berry right now is a mystery.

I'm pretty sure at his presser Dorsey said they were considering him a cornerback.

GIVE ME...A CHECK...OF DOWN

Probably gonna use him to cover the slot WR.

This.

Wow! We are really loaded at corner now. Still a little weak at safety with Berry out. Any chance any of our currents corners can make a Ron Parker switch and be a really good safety? Fleming? Cooper? Not any chance that they drafted Nelson to play safety is there? A sure tackler like that is what you need at safety.

With Abdullah, Parker and Tyvonne Branch, we are pretty solid there.

Terrence Copper actually played when we needed him.

Gaines and Fleming are injured soft bitches.

I've gone reverse Morse on this pick. I hated Morse at the time, warmed quickly.

This pick I liked at the time but have reversed a bit on. He's just so limited. He can't play out wide, IMO and I think a press corner loses a lot of value in the slot because of how difficult it is to really get your hands on a slot WR.

I just see a lot of Chris Owens in him.

I actually did a fair amount of research on him largely on accident. I was looking into Jaelen Strong and watched Nelson absolutely hand him his ass all day. So I looked at some other clips, etc... and essentially decided that Nelson is likely a 3rd/4th round pick and a really really average CB prospect. That's why I had no interest in Strong - he got owned by a 'meh' defender.

With Clemmings and Jarrett on the board, I'm not sure why the Chiefs felt the need to get a guy who's athleticism will keep him in the slot. I'd have gone Collins but I understand why the Chiefs didn't. Why not Hollimon though? Ramik Wilson? There just wasn't a need to go after him here and he's not a good enough prospect to pass on others. As neither a need or BPA guy, IMO, I don't really like the pick.

Not sure we're that weak at safety with Husain Abdullah, Ron Parker, and Tyvon Branch as our top 3.

we have one of the best THREE safety combos in the entire LEAGUE

what more do you people want?

No it's not. Smith is way overrated. Gives up too many big plays. Not trying to :Poke: here just saying.

You're a dumbass

He has four on Madden!

We gonna die Corral!!!

.. And mcaj NEVER says anything nice about the Chiefs so take note, people.

I'm like one of 5 people saying something nice about Mitch Morse, too!