Top 100 Players of 2015
 

Anyone interested in this?

They air ten players a week every Wednesday at 9 o'clock on NFL Network. They've got the first ten up now. A few rookies and a ton of newcomers:

100. Randall Cobb
99. Calais Campbell
98. Adam Vinatieri
97. Joe Flacco
96. Jurell Casey
95. Emmanuel Sanders
94. CJ Mosley
93. Jason Witten
92. Aaron Donald
91. Julian Edelman90. Michael Bennett
89. Greg Olsen
88. Glover Quin
87. Demarcus Ware
86. Eric Weddle
85. Golden Tate
84. Terrell Suggs
83. Maurkice Pouncey
82. Haloti Ngata
81. Darren Sproles
80. Arian Foster
79. Marshal Yanda
78. Ryan Kerrigan
77. Matt Ryan
76. Sen'Derrick Marks
75. Mike Evans
74. Muhammed Wilkerson
73. Cam Newton
72. Kyle Williams
71. Julius Peppers
70. Tamba Hali
69. Bobby Wagner
68. Larry Fitzgerald
67. Tashaun Gipson
66. Deandre Levy
65. Justin Forsett
64. Charles Woodson
63. Jerry Hughes
62. Adrian Peterson
61. Jeremy Maclin
60. Eddie Lacy
59. Vontae Davis
58. Connor Barwin
57. Brandon Marshall
56. Lavonte David
55. Sheldon Richardson
54. Steve Smith
53. Marcel Dareus
52. Antonio Gates
51. Clay Matthews
50. Desean Jackson
49. Khalil Mack
48. Matt Forte
47. Trent Williams
46. Elvis Dumervil
45. Julius Thomas
44. Robert Quinn
43. Philip Rivers
42. Mario Williams
41. Kam Chancellor
40. Jason Peters
39. Cameron Wake
38. Brent Grimes
37. AJ Green
36. Tyron Smith
35. TY Hilton
34. Tony Romo
33. Von Miller
32. Odell Beckham Jr.
31. Jimmy Graham
30. Drew Brees
29. Lesean McCoy
28. Gerald McCoy
27. Justin Houston
26. Ben Roethlisberger
25. Joe Thomas
24. Ndamukong Suh
23. Joe Haden
22. Russell Wilson
21. Earl Thomas

Here's the link: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100-2015

Watching the highlights gets me excited for the season all over again.

How many Chiefs are we thinking make the top 100 this year? Last year we had five in Charles (8), Hali (37), Berry (50), Houston (57), and DJ (64).

Charles and Houston are locks. Both could justifiably be named in the top 10 but I'm guessing they'll both be snubbed by more marketable names like Watt and Bell/Lynch. I'm still thinking top 20 for JC and Houston, though.

Hali won't make it along with DJ and Berry for obvious reasons.

I think this will be the year Poe finally cracks the lineup. Maybe somewhere in the 80s.

Hudson might be deserving but **** that guy.

Maclin will likely be named somewhere in the 60s, I'd guess..?

Sean Smith could squeak on if they put a scrub like Julian Edelman on there but I highly doubt it. He'd need another season like he had last year to hope for that kind of recognition.

Anyway, thoughts?

I'd be thoroughly shocked if Catapano isn't top 8. I hear he's in the best shape of his life!

Charles and Houston won't both be top 20. Here are my bets:


Houston 16
Charles 24
Poe: 58

And that's about it

I would expect Kelce to be on there. Keep in mind this reaches a fantasy audience and everyone knows who he is by now.

Good to see Emmanuel Sanders get snubbed like that. **** him with AIDS

There's literally a 0 percent chance Kelce makes the top 100.

It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

They say this list is a ranking of the top 100 players heading into the 2015 season- not how they performed last year. But, obviously, the most important basis you have for making that designation is what they did in the previous year. Kelce's production in the 2014 season doesn't warrant a top 100 selection, but his arrow is pointing wayyyyyy up so they could justify throwing him on there based on potential.

I don't think they will, but I'm saying I could see them doing it.

A guy with 22 sacks is going to be higher than 16. Top 10 easily. Possibly top 5.

On second thought, I have to agree with you about Charles. As far as the national pundits are concerned, he had a "down year" (heh) that was "plagued by injury".

He still scored 14 TDs which is more than any other RB not named Lynch, but idiots like to look at total rushing yards as the definitive factor in gauging a RBs effectiveness. I think he was like 15th or something in that category.

I'm thinking the RBs will be ranked 1) Leveon Bell 2) Marshawn Lynch 3) Demarco Murray (he'll probably light shit up in that new offense) 4) Lesean Mccoy (total bullshit) and then Jamaal as the 5th ranked RB. They might throw in someone like Eddie Lacy, Jeremy Hill or Justin Forsett ahead of Charles just to annoy me.

If he does - which would rank him ahead of Randall Cobb and Emmanuel Sanders - Goodell should immediately drug test every player who voted.

Top 5 is wishful thinking, IMO. Not that he doesn't deserve it, but this is an offensive league. We've probably got 3 of the top 5 set in stone from QBs alone (Rodgers, Brady, Luck). Watt will most assuredly be ranked higher than Houston.

Who would make up your top 10?

Edelman was ranked ahead of both :spock:

The list is total bullshit but I enjoy critiquing it.

Does Adrian Peterson get ranked?

Holy Christ - I missed that.

What a joke.

Charles has never gotten the credit he's earned.

Not this shit again. The sky is going to fall when Mike Catapano doesn't make the list.

JJ Watt was #12 last season.

He only had 10.5 sacks that year, too.

I'm thinking he'll crack the Top 10. This is his second season of 20+ sacks, plus he started to become a weapon on offense.

Houston will be the next front 7 player - ranked somewhere around 15-20.

Houston should be Top 10.

Based on what?

Watt should certainly be way up there. Only player in NFL history with more than one 20+ sack season.

Last season Sherman was #7, and was the only defensive player in the top 10.

That would be a travesty.

It will be hilarious when Brady is #1 but will be missing a portion of the season for cheating.

Oh, Watt will be top 10 for sure. For 1) they'll need to have at least one defensive star in the top 10 for legitimacy 2) he actually probably is the best defender in the league 3) the hype.

He may just go in the top 5. Shit, he'd be in my top 5..

I'm thinking the second defender's spot will go to Houston or Revis with Sherman being a longshot.

Again, based on what?

Oh, that's right. He's a Chief, so he sucks. Carry on...

JC will be top 20

Houston top 10.

I guess you'd rather put words in my mouth than answer my questions?

You're the smartest guy in the room, figure it out.

I'm going to attempt a preliminary top 10 which will likely be way off:

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. JJ Watt
4. Andrew Luck
5. Leveon Bell
6. Dez Bryant
7. Rob Gronkowski
8. Joe Thomas
9. Peyton Manning
10. Justin Houston

FYP /OldSchool

Being the 2nd best defensive player in the league, maybe?

I mean, is this really that far fetched?

Antonio Brown should be top 10 IMO

Agreed.

I'm sure if we would have let him walk OTWP would have him in the top 5.

He's certainly deserving but I'm not sure he has the star power.

Even if he does, could you rank him higher than Calvin Johnson?

I'm not sure why he couldn't be ranked higher than Joe Thomas as much as fatties are overlooked.

Look who he plays for.

Derp.

Based on last season? Of course. He has 5 more TDs and almost 700 more rec yards. Not sure why Calvin would be considered a better player last season.

All i know is that whatever Poe gets he should be higher....most underrated player in the NFL

Why? Berry was in the top 100 after a so so rookie season. 862 yards is damn good for a tight end. He's popular in fantasy football. He's got a shot.

id say this list makes sense...except for Joe Thomas at #8 anyway.

Any TE with that kind of sweet "jerkin my air gherkin" video is a shoe-in.

I think he has a shot

I agree. He is the 2nd best defensive player in the league.

Last year, only one defensive player made the Top 10 and that was a CB.

Is it really that far fetched that Watt and a CB go Top 10 and Houston doesn't?

Or that Watt is the only defensive player to go Top 10?

Yeah, ranking a lineman that high was a gaffe on my part. I checked last year's rankings and Joe Thomas was ranked somewhere around 15. It's not like he's gotten any better so a top 10 ranking is probably pretty unlikely at this point...

Well, I've heard that these rankings are supposed to be based on the top 100 players going into the new season. So most will be based on their performance for the season prior (obviously) but that isn't all that you should factor into it. Calvin Johnson spent a lot of this past season injured. Assuming he's healthy to start the 2015 season, would you take Antonio Brown over him?

Calvin is the safe pick, but I was super high on AB during our fantasy draft. I know it's fantasy blah blah blah. It's hard to take ANY WR over Megatron. If what you heard is correct about them being based on the upcoming season, I would have to flip a coin. If based on last season Calvin < Brown

Not far fetched at all.

Last year a CB was, arguably, the 2nd best D player in the league.

You asked "based on what?"

I answered.

Where's the confusion?

Oh awesome! A list that means Jack shit. Never seen one of these before!

To just kinda springboard off this thread, heres what I want to say...

ANY talking head, any misinformed loudmouth with a computer and a national voice that doesnt rank Jamaal Charles as their Number One back every single year, is a total fraud, a totally biased fraud that should not be listened to nor read.

Heres the list of backs who've managed 5 yards per carry for five consecutive years... Barry Sanders, Jim Brown.

Thats IT.

Peterson, McCoy and whoever else all of these tards have put forth these last 3-4 years?... they PALE in comparison, its not even CLOSE.

Jamaal is the best running back in the National Football League, period.

McCoy will NEVER be able to gain yards after contact like JC, Peterson will NEVER outrun someone with the angle like JC consistently does.

And the best part is that our team has him for atleast his next two prime years... all of you **g "writers" out there better get it right this year.

Kansas City.

Jamaal Charles.

Scariest back in the league.

yea and the Chiefs will go down as the team who wasted the prime years of one of the best RBs in the NFL on shitty QBs and shitty coaches woohoo!

That was a pretty impressive rant.

Too bad you're ranting at writers, when the PLAYERS are the ones responsible for this list. And IIRC, the league only gets around 500 responses.

Nah, dont do that, you're not one of those guys at all... I've seen way too many reasonable posts from you to believe you mean that garbage.

His years WERE being wasted, but not now... this team is ****ing loaded, its every single bit as talented and then some as those Niner teams Smith took to the brink.

Jamaal has two prime years left to make mfers pay.

Anyone saying that Houston won't be in the top 15 is an absolute idiot (Prison Bitch, but we already knew that). The guy almost broke the single season sack record and was the 2nd best defensive player in the league. There weren't really any monster offensive numbers put up either, so top 6 wouldn't shock me.

Its not really a jab at this list per se, its just the constant drumbeat we get of anyone else besides JC as the hands down best in the league.

MCCOY!

PETERSON!

Uh, have you idiots (pundits) actually watched this team or paid any kind of attention at all?

Yeah, because the lions didn't do that.


BTW, JC's prime years aren't quite over, yet.

Why do you even bother to watch this team?

I think you have your panties in a bunch for nothing.

There are 4-5 elite guys that an argument could be made for, just like there are at QB.

I'll never understand why people take things like this so personal. There are a LOT of great players in the league. Arguing over who is the best and who is the 3rd best or 5th best is completely pointless.

I wouldn't say they're in a bunch, just a bit twisted.

Listen, the Chiefs have made some major strides the past two year... seriously, a LOT of teams would've taken MUCH longer to recover from 2-14 AND a murder suicide.

Reid comes in and - shitty opposing QB's or not - takes them to 9-0 AND the playoffs... dude c'mon, I know you suffered the Indy loss personally, but atleast tip your hate to that job Reid did.

Last year? INJURY FEST 2014 - BRUTAL SCHEDULE 2014 - INCOMPLETE TEAM THAT COULDNT MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE 2014... yet still managed to beat the two conference champs... c'mon man, it doesn't invalidate all of your criticisms to admit that things could've went either way last year.

I'm not sure what any of that has to do with the Top 100 list, or how JC supposedly gets overlooked - but props for another misguided rant.

OTWP, that rant had nothing to do with the JC thing lol... got carried away somehow.

But yeah, guess my JC rant is just a symptom of how tired I am of the national media ignoring this team... in years past I get it, of course, we sucked out loud... but ANY other NFL team accomplishes what this one has the last two years and they'd be everyones ****ing darkhorse darling.

Seriously, they WOULD.

But nope, not KC... for some reason beyond its control people hate talking about or even considering the Chiefs for anything other than nothing.

That was my point about Charles. When the Chiefs (team) do something to put themselves on the map, the players will get recognized for what they are. Until then it's not going to happen no matter how good they are to us fans.

Take the Royals for example, World Series appearance and they now have national attention. I can listen to shows on ESPN radio and those talking heads will actually talk about any storyline that hits the Royals camp. If the Chiefs do something similar, they will get the same treatment, it's that simple. But nobody gives a rats ass about a middle of the pack 10-6/9-7 team that's loaded with talent trying to get over the hump until they actually do it. Teams like the Texans and the Rams are in the same boat as the Chiefs.

Yeah, your point stands in strong relief... these guys need to make it happen this year, make a noise so loud that no one can ignore it.

There truly are no excuses right now, the talent is there to do it and put this team back on the map.

Here's some excuses the Alex homers already have in mind

1. Maclin still needs to learn this offense and Reid's playbook, it's not a high power offense like it was in Philly

2. What do you expect from a 3rd rookie WR? Of course he wasn't going to be great in first season in the pros, not Alex's fault he couldn't score a touchdown.

3. We could have won that game if Reid made the right call. Alex was ordered to throw a screen pass. Reid calls the plays.

4. Charles only scored 4 touchdowns, if he was to get that fifth one we could have won. Alex Smith threw a perfect pass. Charles just ran out of gas and passed out. His fault for not training hard.

They may make excuses at their own peril.

Third year is supposed to be the big jump for all wco QB's, its been that way for decades... then add in this loaded team and no one will want to hear it.

top 100 players is a waste of time. I can see the staff meeting now:

Q: "how do we kill time between the draft and training camp?"

A: "Hey, I know! how about the players vote on who's the best?"

"yah, great idea, that will kill at least a month or two! Because, ya know, we gotta have these assclown-talking-head baffoons (aka studio personalities) yapping it up all the time on NFLN!"

Yeah, but can they make a list of 101 CPers???

I hadn't been keeping up with this because it's been pretty boring, but:

90. Michael Bennett
89. Greg Olsen
88. Glover Quin
87. Demarcus Ware
86. Eric Weddle
85. Golden Tate
84. Terrell Suggs
83. Maurkice Pouncey
82. Haloti Ngata
81. Darren Sproles

80. Arian Foster
79. Marshal Yanda
78. Ryan Kerrigan
77. Matt Ryan
76. Sen'Derrick Marks
75. Mike Evans
74. Muhammed Wilkerson
73. Cam Newton
72. Kyle Williams
71. Julius Peppers

70. Tamba Hali
69. Bobby Wagner
68. Larry Fitzgerald
67. Tashaun Gipson
66. Deandre Levy
65. Justin Forsett
64. Charles Woodson
63. Jerry Hughes
62. Adrian Peterson
61. Jeremy Maclin

Got a couple Chiefs so far. Hali is definitely too high but his video is highly entertaining. He agrees that he shouldn't have made the list this year and it's funny to see his energy pre-game (maybe mid-game). I'll be sad to see him leave, however he does so. Here's his vid:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-70-Tamba-Hali

Golden Tate, Muhammed Wilkerson and Bobby Wagner could definitely be higher.

I'm not sure my list would even include Larry Fitzgerald, Tamba Hali, Justin Forsett or Ryan Kerrigan.

Adrian Peterson took a hell of a slide. It was a bit similar to Peyton's 50-spot slide after he didn't play for an entire season.

Lists like this are dumb. Just like ranking guitarists. Mere click bait.

I think they got Forsett right. I would've dropped Fitz down into the 80s. Hali wouldn't make my list.

JJ Watt is the best player in the NFL. I don't care about the positional value. It's best player and that's what JJ is.

He had 20.5 sacks, 10 batted passes, 4 forced fumbles, a defensive TD return, a safety and caught 3 TD's.

No player came close to having a season that impressive.

I agree, but he still won't be #1. It will go to a QB probably named Aaron Rodgers.

Based strictly on his pass rush prowess, Houston should be top 15. Once you figure in that in coverage, he only gave up 7 catches for 45 yards all year. He didn't get a single penalty all year. He only missed 4 tackles all year and was the highest graded run defender at OLB and it would be unfair if he doesn't make the top ten.

IMO he should be in the top 5.

On to Kelce...

Kelce should fit in between 40-60. Based on just his receiving numbers in 2014, which ranked 5th at TE with 862 yards, being ranked that high is probably just being a Chiefs homer....but then you have to figure in a few factors.

1. He didn't start the whole year because he was still recovering from knee surgery.
2. He was the highest graded run blocking tight end.
3. The team adding speed on the outside should open up chunk plays for Kelce going forward.

He should be the 3rd tight end on the list.

Peterson is not overhyped but I've been saying for years that Lashaun McCoy gets rated ahead of Jamal Charles because of east coast bias. McCoy is an outstanding back but Charles is way more talented.

There's a good chance Kelce will be listed this year and 40-60 isn't out of the question.

Remember, this list is supposed to be a ranking of players heading into 2015. So really it's more of a projection than a ranking based off the previous year, although that's the strongest indicator of where a player should be...

All of the other TEs that are likely to be listed have pretty much peaked. Kelce's arrow is pointed wayyyyyyy up (I feel like I said that in this thread already).

Top 100 Players of 2015
 

There are a lot of things that go into it, IMO.

East coast bias is certainly one of them.

The fantasy era is another. McCoy gets a shit ton of carries each year. So even though his YPC average is just OK, he tends to end up with a lot of yards. Jamaal will often end up with less yardage but is almost always more effective.

Strangely, people don't tend to value TDs as much as I thought they would. No skill position player has more TDs over the past two seasons than Jamaal (what a ****ing beast). Taking the year 2013 for both, McCoy had 1600 yards and something like 11 TDs while Jamaal had 1300 yards and 19 TDs in only 15 games. McCoy was crowned the rushing champion and most would have listed their best RBs as 1. Peterson, 2. McCoy and then 3. Charles. Buuuuullshit.

Another thing is McCoy's running style. He's a complete East-West guy, which is why Chip gave his ass the boot. He dances and fiddles around with his dick in the backfield hoping for a 40 yard gain on every play instead of lurching forward and taking what's given. It's not the most effective style but it is flashy and people see him juke 3 guys out of their shoes in one play and don't give a shit that he only gained 2 yards. Meanwhile, Jamaal's rocking the highest YPC average in league history (for RBs- let me clarify before that idiot Just Passin' By comes in here arguing with me about it) because he runs intelligently (most of the time) and never stops moving forward.

Damn, I just spent a shit ton of time on this post. The point I'm trying to make is JC>>>>>>>that bum Lesean McCoy.

How the **** is Peterson on this list when he only played in one game last season?

I assume it's because players don't pay attention to the ground rules. He was one of the worst players in the league last year based on production.

Houston came in at #27, fellas.