Alex Fodder
 

Saw this on CBS Sports. Some unsurprising charts included....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ore-frequently

With the speed of Maclin, Conley and Wilson, plus an improved line... theres no good reason for the deeper throws to not start being made.

The bat-signal has been sounded.

Excuses commencing in 3...2...1...

Worst offensive line and wide receivers ever!

Shocking! Can't believe I'm seeing the "Can't wait for the excuses" comments.

Ya'll are becoming as annoying as the people who make the excuses.

WE WANT CHUNK PLAYS

3rd and 8.

How's 5 sound?

I just envisioned a photoshop of the head of the Goonies kid on Alex's body.

LMAO

Brace yourselves

Overthrows are coming

I want Kelce down the seam. Do it, Alex. DO IT.

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LMAO

On the bright side, the coaching staff acknowledges the need for bigger downfield plays.

So that's good

Didn't they say the same thing last year?

And the year before?

Last year we had a bottom 5 o line and receiving corps!!!

The year before that was Alex's first in a new system!!!

They did.

And Reid said the same thing at mid-season of the year before.

boohoohoo

boohoohoo

I'm stoked for the season to start so I can anxiously await the mistakes.

"He only threw four passes longer than 35 yards last season"

Does that mean he threw the ball longer than 35yards or does the 35 yards count after YAC are considered? With Smith, I don't know.

That's not good.

That's something he can do, but doesn't.

If Andy Reid really wanted downfield throws he would get them. Period.

They might suck, but he would get them.


He must have not wanted them very badly.

It's funny, people think Alex is a good QB simply because he doesn't turn the ball over often.

Sadly, I think most of his detractors would accept more turnovers if it meant more yards and TDs. But that's not likely.

This is EXACTLY the type of defense that allows a QB to be aggressive. Throw an INT? No worries, we have your back. Can't imagine too many people would complain if he doubled his TDs and INTs.

He is what he is. Learn to deal with it and you will be a much happier fan.


3300 yards passing. 24 TDs

For the 100th time.

West.

Coast.

Offense.

Oh, I've completely learned to live with the fact that the defense is going to have to come up with a Herculean effort for 3-4 games in January/February for this team to win a Championship.

A bunch of teams run the WCO, the Packers being one of them.

Next excuse?

The goddamn 90s Chiefs ran the WCO and THEY went deep more than Lil Checky.'

He's irreparably gun shy.

He's like a puppy that's been kicked around for the first few years of his life and now he has a really hard time trusting people*.

* = Wide Receivers

Where does everyone put Maclin at this year?

I say 60/860/5

Both of those things are 100% true.

Yeah, and then the OL went to shit on them and the WR core compounded the problem by being complete crap.

Bottom 5 OL and WR groups are not a problem for a QB to have good success in the deep pass game. All QBs are doing great with bottom 5 OL and WR groups, dammit!

I can't name any... but let's go with this anyway! :)

So, when both the WR's and O-line grade out at 20 or above, can we finally put this Alex Myth horseshit to rest?

Thx!

Like you want to put anything to rest.

That's something he can do, but doesn't.

Get ready for a shitpile of INTs. The 1st game last year Andy tried to get him to do it and bam 3 ints. Then Andy took the heat for him said its on me and had Alex retreat into his shell.

I'm not sure he can come out.

I can pick up super models too. If I try 1000 times. It's just not what he can do successfully.

Nah. He found Vernon Davis regularly.

How about we just ask the excuse makers. If Alex muddles around this season are you done trying to make excuses?

I think there really is no excuse this year. Good WRs, much better line easy schedule.

Deep with tight coverage?

Down the seams. Only deep throws he's ever made successfully. When I get on my puter I'll link a video.

Drop the 5 to 0 and I think you have it.

Awesome thanks Mav.

See Tennessee last year. Several deep throws and 3 ints.

He had 4 passes over 20 yards and 2 over 25. And 3 interceptions. All of the interceptions were on deep throws 3 deep incompletes as well. That's 10 deep passes in one game. That never happened again.

Pretty much, yes. This has been said for quite a long time now.

Again, we are not talking about 5,000 yard, 40+ TD passing seasons. That crap depends on scheme, and is frankly for only the fantasy football geeks of the world.

If the OL and WR groups show to be above the bottom 10, then it will become clear whether Alex is a top tier QB. He is already in the 2nd tier in most reasonable minds while having bottom tier OL and WR groups.. a large 2nd tier of QBs that people have wildly ranked in their own order.

I am still waiting for people to list some QBs that have excelled while having bottom 5-10 WR and OL groups. Has anyone ever done so? If so... let's see them. If not? then why not? because they do not exist? Be honest.

Let's not start.

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wr's suck, but rational talk regarding alex is futile lol. Alex has his deep threat, he better at least attempt it this year.

Oh. Didn't know Vernon played for the Chiefs. My bad.

how would he ever win games if he doesn't produce exciting football!

Read the post again. Since 2011, bub.

Alex sucked in SF and sucks in KC.

I just hope he's not hard to watch. That would be an improvement anyways

You never watched him throw to Vernon in sf. You wouldn't know.

He doesn't know shit in the first place.

Who gives a **** if it happens?

Ill take ST winning all playoff games as long as they win!

Didn't Smith come out in week 1 last year throwing deep?

Itself like Reid spent all offseason focused on stretching the field, then saw it in action and said "**** that". Smith isn't a deep passer physically, and more importantly, mentally.

You will be held to this.

The defense of this shitbag at CP? In the face of a WR corps and O-line that any legit QB should be able to make the donuts with?

Yes, please.

They have been working on his fundamentals in otas. Crazy for a vet like him, but it seems they are doing everything they can to get him to throw deep more with effectiveness.

He's won a lot of games since 2011 for a guy that sucks. And last I heard winning games is the whole point of football.

When GoChiefs has anal sex he doesn't just want someone to tear up the sides he wants them to hit bottom.

I know he didn't go deep then and he doesn't go deep now.

And that includes intermediate throws.

He's gun shy now and he was gun shy then.

10-12 in his last 22.

The worm is turning on this fraud.

The only fraud is you Clay.

He's a coward.

Plays like a guy who's afraid of losing his job.

well we''ll have deal with this shit for 3 years before he heads out unless Murray or another QB beats him out for the job before then.

LMAO

Yes, let's pick and crop stats to fit our agendas.

Bull shit, he played like a QB who knew that he didn't have an OL and also that he had shit receivers to go with them.

If you don't think the last 22 games is a relevant segment of his career you are delusional.

He's had his day in the sun thanks to the 49ers and Chiefs defenses and some truly terrible opposing QBs. And now he is fading fast.

He played like the same QB he has been since 2011.

The same nimrod who was scared to throw down the field then and nothing has changed a bit.

He didn't go deep to anyone but Vernon. You don't have a leg to stand on. You can't tell me about Alex Smith as a 49er.

Hmmmm. Amazing that the Chiefs defense has become so good. Ironic. I told you that was going to happen.

FYP

You just made my argument for me. Especially considering Vernon's stats went WAY up the year after Alex left.

A four-year trend that hasn't changed isn't going to change. Ever. He threw the ball intermediate and deep less than almost anyone in SF, and the same holds true in KC.

Undeniable facts.

He's herpes anyway, by your own admission, so just deal with it.

Not good enough.

You seem to think that throwing down the field is the only important stat. It isn't, except in fantasy football. Which is appropriate since you live in a fantasy world.

People should look into the stats when Smith is leading by 7 or more points...I haven't but think it would be interesting. What I get from him is that he is (obviously) risk avoidance... meaning he's not going to take chances. This is a calculated. It's a smart strategy to a degree but I think he carries it to the extreme. The opposite of this is Cutler..who will make a great deep throw then a crushing INT. Which is better? Even the most ardent Smith hater can acknowledge that the Chiefs haven't had a legit deep threat since he's been here...and he's not going to just chuck it up for grabs. This is the season for me..year 3..with Maclin. I'm curious to see this play out...Smith has been pretty damn good in the playoffs. That 49er's/Saints game was bad ass.

A common Chiefs-theme.