Just How Bad Are the Chiefs at Drafting?
 

Apparently not bad at all. In fact, only 1 team has drafted more pro bowlers in the last ten years.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...in-last-decade

Ugh. Flop, you're better than that.

Pro Bowls mean nothing. It's a glorified fan contest. Fans are ****ing morons for the most part. Not to mention, there are a lot of 4th/5th choices playing due to injuries, etc.

Now, if you tell me only one team had drafted more All Pros, you have my attention.

We're fine at drafting most positions.

We're not good at drafting QBs or OL.

While I agree, the only bullshit player listed is McCluster. The rest are bona fide studs. That said, how many playoff wins do we have to show for it? That's the point of the thread to me.

Worse part is we waste the top 2 rounds on shit or non impact players... Drafting OL in the top first 2 rounds will keep you a bottom 5 franchise...

And the fact that we cant draft a QB says all you need to know about the Chiefs.

What about what's his name, and that other guy?!

You did a great job with that Hudson guy

The Chiefs biggest problem all these years by far has been coaching.

Over QB play? No ****ing way.

Tough to draft a QB when there isn't a sure thing there.

Too risky. :rolleyes:

Ive said this alot, but since the 83 draft, the Chiefs havent really passed on too many 1st round QBs who turned out to be stars.

Aaron Rodgers is about the only one who comes to mind.

They have been completely unlucky with timing when they had a high 1st round draft pick.

But if you draft good OL other player have impact. Except for LT most OL positions go unnoticed by most fans.

I dont mind drafting OL early but they better be damn good damn fast.

All QBs count, not just first rounders.

Too many fails and I'm tired of the excuses.

There are no perfect prospects. ****ing try.

Wrong

Bullshit dude, and you know it.

And these type of comments are what keep this franchise bottom 5 for the better part of its franchise history.

Dorsey is pretty good, and will be better when he convinces Reid to cut the cord.

So we should have drafted guys like JP Losman, Patrick Ramsey and Tim Tebow just because?

If you think the Chiefs were right to pass on guys like Joe Flacco, you're brain dead.

No. But Thanks. He was another one the Chiefs could have drafted. But for the most part, the guys they passed on in the first, they were right to do so.

Hindsight is 9/7.

Guys that have played at an all pro level for us at times, that we drafted the last 10 years...

Houston
Poe
DJ
Berry
Charles
Hali

Guys I think have that kind of potential

Kelce
Peters

I don't think I'm being a homer in saying that, am I?

Were they named all pro?

I'd rather win playoff games instead of stacking the Pro Bowl.

I totally agree.

If Alex doesn't back up my predictions, I'm gonna be first in line to draft a QB early next year.

Which QB would you like us to draft?

And then trade high round draft picks to successful teams and sign them to huge contracts for guys taken in the 6th and 7th round once the good teams are done with them and bend them over like a used car salesman in a plaid suit? Guys like, oh, Trent Green, Elvis Grbac, Matt Cassell, Steve Bono, Joe Montana...</br></br>Dude, the Chiefs don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to at least trying with QBs. Not really putting a whole lot of effort into this argument for obvious reasons but please don't try and defend the Chiefs for how they've handled the QB position.

Signed every post Green season.

Everywhere but WR and QB they are pretty solid drafters. Had a bad run on DL for a while but they have made up for it lately.

We could be like the Browns and keep reaching for QBs in the first round. That franchise has had tons of success "trying".

Other teams don't enter into it.

We should start doing it, because what we're doing is GUARANTEED TO FAIL.

How many were drafted by Dorsey/Reid?...

Yes to every guy he mentioned. As well as Sherman, and bowe in 2010.

Building a bad ass defense with a stud rb in a conservative offense. That hasn't worked out for Seattle the last couple years.

How many 1st and second year players are named all pro? Lol but if you'll put the time in I'm sure you will find quite a few all pro Eagles andys drafted, and quite a few Dorsey drafted while with gb. Including Rogers.

Well seeing as they've only had two years to develop their draft picks that question isn't quite fair. Kelce and Peters will be. Ford very well could be. Gaines will be if he reaches his potential. Conley has a shot with his upside and intelligence.

The QB is 75% of their offense.

We are only in year three with the new regime. That is an unfair question. Although Travis Kelce is trending towards all pro status.

:LOL: Please do enlightened me in detail how Russell Wilson is carrying that offense and not Marshawn Lynch.

Sorry, but drafting a QB for the sake of drafting a QB is bullshit.

You know what's bullshit?

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LMAO

Please name one team who took a QB in the 1st round for the sake of drafting a QB and won a SB from 2000-now.

It's not an unfair question at all.

It's only unfair because KC hasn't had many rookies or second year players have much impact...

The Baltimore Ravens, if you ask me. They pulled the trigger on a guy who was nowhere near the top end of the draft board a month before the draft and hey presto...SUPER BOWL MOTHER****ER.

it's ****ing true

do some math, musical genious

Chiefs are loaded

Did I just see a nOOb troll Clay?!

Yes, yes they are.

Like a teen slut on prom night.

About to go down.

Flacco was projected as an early 2nd rounder, correct?

No one takes one just to take one.

You take one because of 1) Need and 2) Talent.

Yes, KC has a need.

Unfortunately the talent part has been lacking the last few years...

JFC you really expect draft picks to be all-pros in year 1 & 2? ROFL

Alex Smith was 66% of KC's offense and Russel Wilson was actually 68.8% of Seattle's. And that's with Smith playing in 1 less game than Wilson so in reality Smith has a higher % per game.

Nice try though.

It's a very unfair question. Most of our 2013 draft class has dealt with injuries/illnesses in their short career. That's not on the regime.

Did I say Al pro?

Pretty sure I said impact.

Sorry, looks like I was misinformed.

Point stands, though.

When your QB is rushing for almost 900 yards he's the driving force in the offense.

After the infamous Eric Fisher stupid fat **** life loser celebration gif, I learned you can never discuss draft picks with this fanbase.

I hope those two fat ****s die of ebolaids.

didn't the Packers do just that with Aaron Rodgers?

Dude, I am still shocked that that actually happened. I said in another thread that roughly 70% of this fanbase needs to be euthanized.

Holy shit dude. Marcellus and Boss Chief were those guys! Don't wish that on them.

You would have more success trying to **** a bobcat in the phone booth, than discussing QBs, playoffs and championships with a fanbase that believes RGs is the key to 9-7 and Hope.

You wouldn't know a draft choice from your own asshole.

There is literally no one that spouts off drunken, ill-formed, racist hyperbole like you do on an everyday basis.

You've long surpassed Smed as the biggest alcoholic numbskull to ever participate at ChiefsPlanet.

Kudos.

:LOL:

Thanks Dane. Glad to see you back to your old self.

I never supported the Fisher pick, seems you may be closer in line for the needle.

You're going to find out about Eric Fisher, Dee Ford, Phillip Gaines, Eric Kush, Sanders Commings and Mike Catapano this year.

It's completely fair to say that Kelce, Davis and DAT were fantastic picks.

You have gone of the deep end of ridiculous bullshit for some time now for no real reason.

You can't help but post negative shit in every single football thread even when most aren't even Chiefs related. Its fairly pathetic.

The discussion began with you asking what all-pros have Reid/Dorsey drafted.

Kelce, DAT, Davis , Wilson and Gaines haven't had an impact?

What about guys like Smith, Sherman, Howard, Parker, Abdullah, Coleman, Cooper & McKnight (fun while it lasted) that they brought in and had an impact with a good price tag?

Maclin and Grubbs will certainly have an impact. As should Branch.

Ford will have an impact with more playing time and a year under his belt. Fisher should be much better after finally having an off-season to get bigger and stronger.

Peters should have an impact from day 1.

Kush could have a huge impact (already is as the leader of the o-line according to player/coach interviews)

Dorsey/Reid are doing a good job in that department. You're a ****ing idiot if you think otherwise.

People don't like facts. It's the way it is here.

Dude you know you aren't posting facts you are posting your twisted opinion

You arent talking facts most of the time. You know this.

Absolutely, but you don't draft a QB just to draft a QB.

Jimmy Clausen, Mark Sanchez...these are the guys that the CP QB collective were jumping up and down for.

I'm not adding Geno Smith to that list because:

Rex is gone.

Chan Gailey is his new offensive coordinator, and:

I think Geno is going to have a solid 2014.

They missed on Flacco but most Chiefs fans would have gone absolutely freaking ape shit if the Chiefs passed on Glenn Dorsey and drafted Flacco. Nearly every single dude here was jerking themselves into a frenzy because the Chiefs drafted Dorsey. Most guys around here didn't have a ****ing clue who Flacco was anyway.

Other than that, what first round talent did they pass on?

And Dorsey hasn't let the position sit. He traded for Smith. He brought in Daniel. He signed Bray. He drafted Murray. John Dorsey has addressed the QB position more aggressively than any KC regime that I can remember. And I'm pretty sure he's going to have zero qualms about pulling the trigger on a dude at the position early if he feels that the player warrants the pick.

I have no doubts that Smith will have a good year. He's got the talent at the skill positions now. He's got a defense that he can fall back on. And I firmly believe that the offensive line is going to be solid - solid enough for him to feel substantially more comfortable behind than he has any time in the past two seasons.

The Chiefs should be the team that other teams don't want to play. They beat both Super Bowl teams. They've got one of, if not the, premiere nose tackle in the NFL today sandwiched by a 22 sack dude and one of the most relentless pass rushers in the league. They've got one of the most dangerous special teams units in the league. Back to back winning seasons. It's time.

Chiefs are going to wreck shit this year. If they don't, it comes down to two dudes - Smith and Reid.

Of course Marcellus, no one twists facts here.

Some people don't like facts and will try and discredit the poster vs discussing the facts.

Like Reids 4-10 record after Nov 15.

Or Smiths inability to lead this team on the field.

Or that we havent beaten Denver in the last 4 games.

Or the we can't sack Manning or stop CJ Anderson after 10days of rest.

There are plenty of facts people don't want to hear or like. Bringing them up pisses people off.

Or the fact that we havent drafted a QB and continue to try the same approach decade after decade without much success.

And BTW you don't have to be lonely at farmers only .com.

Chiefs have not beat Denver in the last 6 games, bro.

2-8 vs them the last 5 years, and yes, 2 of those years were the Tebow teams.

Who is the ****ing Idiot that supported Geno and all his awesomeness over Alex Smith... ****ing idiot.

because pete carol is an idiot

and threw the ball on the last play of the superbowl

I hates offensive geniouses

Why don't you just put water in my fuel next time?

All of your "facts" involve a narrative and do not involve context.

Nor do your self selected facts require bitching about Alex Smith in a thread about a Denver Bronco getting arrested.

I have watched this team and its failures as long as you have and don't go on bitching rampages in every thread about anything football or not football related. Are you just trying to impress people with your ability to complain more than others?

And BTW there are facts like Reid having the first back to back winning seasons in 10 years plus or Jamaal Charles being an epic HOF player, or the Chiefs having the #2 pass defense last year and giving up the fewest big plays etc..... you can also discuss.

Or you can constantly bitch like an old woman.

Pick your poison and enjoy your life how you want. I prefer to enjoy what I can and not focus on being a whiny bitch 24/7. Dont get me wrong I will get mad as hell after a dumb loss and have to recover from the funk of a shitty Monday and be overly moody because my Chiefs lost a game they shouldn't have. But I wont hold onto it like a tattoo and find reasons to keep it all scabbed up and fresh for years on end.

And before you tell me that's not you and I don't know you as a person, you may be right but that's you on CP. You used to be alright and now you are just a douche for the most part.

My $.02

I'mNo worries Bropablo. Life is good. My self worth isn't attached to the success or failure of this franchise or message board.

CP is entertainment not reality.