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Mr. Laz 07-20-2015 04:29 PM

Why didn't we sign Houston months ago?
 
If we were going to just backup a Brink's truck, we could have done that at any time. Why not do it earlier so that we could use that cap room during the prime Free Agency period?

Lex Luthor 07-20-2015 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11608339)
If we were going to just backup a Brink's truck, we could have done that at any time. Why not do it earlier so that we could use that cap room during the prime Free Agency period?

You mad, bro?

Easy 6 07-20-2015 04:39 PM

Theres probably 100 different reasons why, reasons we'll never be privy to.

Shuffling around that much money cant be easy.

Mav 07-20-2015 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11608339)
If we were going to just backup a Brink's truck, we could have done that at any time. Why not do it earlier so that we could use that cap room during the prime Free Agency period?


Because originally what Houston wanted was probably higher. So they negotiated, and with other areas of the offseason, ie the draft, free agency, Andy eating barbecue, they now found time to get the contract done. Then, now, in reality it makes no difference. 50 is a chief.

RealSNR 07-20-2015 04:51 PM

Because Alex Smith sucks

pugsnotdrugs19 07-20-2015 04:52 PM

Ian Rapoport reported last week that they tried to sign him back in October for (wisely) less money. It was likely around the time he had 12 sacks in 8 games, thus he turned it down and essentially bet on himself.

It paid off, literally. You have to consider all of the things that can happen in the months from April-July before just handing the money out (see Jason Pierre-Paul). They played it just right.

Perineum Ripper 07-20-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11608382)
Because Alex Smith sucks

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Otter 07-20-2015 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11608339)
If we were going to just backup a Brink's truck, we could have done that at any time. Why not do it earlier so that we could use that cap room during the prime Free Agency period?

Clark wants to know whether or not you have a French mouse in your pocket?

DaFace 07-20-2015 04:57 PM

The same reason that Demaryius Thomas and Dez Bryant signed at the last minute - deadlines provoke action.

Buehler445 07-20-2015 05:07 PM

I like boobs.

Dante84 07-20-2015 05:20 PM

Im sure there will be an Arrowhead Addict article on this subject later this week.

Jim Lahey 07-20-2015 05:37 PM

Didn't take long for someone to find something to bitch about..

Tribal Warfare 07-20-2015 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11608352)
Theres probably 100 different reasons why, reasons we'll never be privy to.

Shuffling around that much money cant be easy.

Let's ask WeathermanKumke and that 97.5 million contract Houston signed days before the deadline.

TribalElder 07-20-2015 05:43 PM

Why you keep trying to read that word....

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BigMeatballDave 07-20-2015 05:46 PM

Maybe he didn't want to sign so he could skip all the off-season crap.

Hydrae 07-20-2015 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11608414)
I like boobs.

Whew, glad you cleared that up. I was worried for you.



:D

Deberg_1990 07-20-2015 06:05 PM

My sources tell me Clark was broke up until a few months ago

Dave Lane 07-20-2015 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11608414)
I like boobs.

I think I may like them more than you. :p

Reerun_KC 07-20-2015 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11608414)
I like boobs.

Greatest post ever!

BigMeatballDave 07-20-2015 06:12 PM

This is worse than a Deberg thread.

Perineum Ripper 07-20-2015 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11608414)
I like boobs.

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3359afdf.gif

She approves of your message

BigMeatballDave 07-20-2015 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11608339)
If we were going to just backup a Brink's truck, we could have done that at any time. Why not do it earlier so that we could use that cap room during the prime Free Agency period?

Sorry, Laz, but this is inmen level dumbassery. LOL

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-20-2015 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 11608537)

Hideous.

Rausch 07-20-2015 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 11608537)

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Mr. Flopnuts 07-20-2015 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11608465)
Let's ask WeathermanKumke and that 97.5 million contract Houston signed days before the deadline.

It's kind of cute watching some of you guys hate on him after he called his shot. It's not unreasonable to think they had it so close that it leaked it was getting done. Amazing that we put people down for doing essentially what this site was originally designed to do. Give us die hards some insider info. Ok, gang...

Rausch 07-20-2015 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11608680)
It's kind of cute watching some of you guys hate on him after he called his shot. It's not unreasonable to think they had it so close that it leaked it was getting done. Amazing that we put people down for doing essentially what this site was originally designed to do. Give us die hards some insider info. Ok, gang...

I think it was fairly obvious he was going to end up with that kind of contract. The only shocking part is that KC was the place that gave it to him.

Whatever. He's signed, Rausch has an offseason-long erection...

Tribal Warfare 07-20-2015 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11608680)
It's kind of cute watching some of you guys hate on him after he called his shot. It's not unreasonable to think they had it so close that it leaked it was getting done. Amazing that we put people down for doing essentially what this site was originally designed to do. Give us die hards some insider info. Ok, gang...

It's not hating it's total misreporting and guessing. if he said upwards of 100 million or around, I'd go for it. He gave an exact number though.

kccrow 07-20-2015 07:03 PM

Why didn't Clark give me 100 million over 6 years to hand wash his cars?



Amongst the many questions we may never know the answers to.

Smed1065 07-20-2015 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11608680)
It's kind of cute watching some of you guys hate on him after he called his shot. It's not unreasonable to think they had it so close that it leaked it was getting done. Amazing that we put people down for doing essentially what this site was originally designed to do. Give us die hards some insider info. Ok, gang...

I think it was the injury guarantee and guaranteed $$ they were working on as well.

SAUTO 07-20-2015 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11608703)
It's not hating it's total misreporting and guessing. if he said upwards of 100 million or around, I'd go for it. He gave an exact number though.

Shut the **** up

Anyong Bluth 07-20-2015 07:29 PM

Because Clark wanted to make as much interest of those millions as possible. So, sign him hours before the deadline.
When you got millions, the interest rates are higher on jumbo accounts.

Mystery solved.

SAUTO 07-20-2015 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11608680)
It's kind of cute watching some of you guys hate on him after he called his shot. It's not unreasonable to think they had it so close that it leaked it was getting done. Amazing that we put people down for doing essentially what this site was originally designed to do. Give us die hards some insider info. Ok, gang...

it's uncalled for.

If it was obvious trolling I could see the bitching but he had it pretty close

Perineum Ripper 07-20-2015 07:35 PM

http://i.imgur.com/KkPNYIi.gif

This is for you Weatherman and your hard work and dedication to bring us assholes inside info

Rausch 07-20-2015 07:36 PM

Oh, and this means I can buy my Houston jersey now.

Hell the **** yeah.

My only question is should I go authentic or get one personalized with his number and "THERAPIST" as the name?...

Brock 07-20-2015 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11608703)
It's not hating it's total misreporting and guessing. if he said upwards of 100 million or around, I'd go for it. He gave an exact number though.

You stupid asshole.

Coochie liquor 07-20-2015 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11608701)
I think it was fairly obvious he was going to end up with that kind of contract. The only shocking part is that KC was the place that gave it to him.

Whatever. He's signed, Rausch has an offseason-long erection...

better contact a doctor, bro. 4 hours is supposedly the maximum.

kccrow 07-20-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 11608812)
http://i.imgur.com/KkPNYIi.gif

This is for you Weatherman and your hard work and dedication to bring us assholes inside info

Oh my. Absolutely would, multiple times in 5 minutes.

Rausch 07-20-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 11608830)
better contact a doctor, bro. 4 hours is supposedly the maximum.

Not for this man!

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LoneWolf 07-20-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 11608537)

Omaha just jizzed in his pants.

aturnis 07-20-2015 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11608703)
It's not hating it's total misreporting and guessing. if he said upwards of 100 million or around, I'd go for it. He gave an exact number though.

Bullshit.

Dorsey: How about 6 years 92 million?

Houston/agent: Too low, you can do better.

Dorsey: Alright, we got creative, and we think we can do 6 yrs 97.5 with 50 mil guaranteed.

Houston/agent: Getting closer, you're in the ballpark. I'll come to town and we can figure it out from there.

Clark: What's he say?

Dorsey: He'll be here Tuesday, a couple details to workout, but I think we've got it.

Weatherman's source gets details, thinks it's a done deal, but wasn't completely in the loop, and here we are.


Point is, there's a hundred ways he could have had info that both he and his source thought was correct, but they were just a little misinformed.

You got a family, or a job? Shit happens all the time when trying to make plans and get everyone on the same page.

Fact is, he was so freaking close, it's not funny.

ArrowheadRulez 07-20-2015 09:03 PM

This sounds like what they were discussing on Arrowhead Pride earlier today. About how they could have kept bowe as a #2 if they signed houston earlier.

Do people read that site and make threads about it over here?

Bowser 07-20-2015 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11608339)
If we were going to just backup a Brink's truck, we could have done that at any time. Why not do it earlier so that we could use that cap room during the prime Free Agency period?

https://i.imgur.com/I8CZKh.jpg

Rausch 07-20-2015 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadRulez (Post 11609126)
This sounds like what they were discussing on Arrowhead Pride earlier today. About how they could have kept bowe as a #2 if they signed houston earlier.

Bowe was gone.

Should have been and always was going to be after this season once he got popped...

Tribal Warfare 07-20-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 11609077)

Fact is, he was so freaking close, it's not funny.


Dude, you just proved my point he guessed.

Bowser 07-20-2015 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11609269)
Dude, you just proved my point he guessed.

He said it was going to happen. He said he had inside info. He showed where previous inside info came true. What's your problem with it?

Mr_Tomahawk 07-20-2015 10:10 PM

thanks obama

tk13 07-20-2015 10:16 PM

Better question is why would Houston sign early and force himself to go through all the offseason programs?

Tribal Warfare 07-20-2015 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11609276)
He said it was going to happen. He said he had inside info. He showed where previous inside info came true. What's your problem with it?


Easy, if such info was leaked it would've immediately hit twitter ESPN/NFLN.

He also stated the wrong amount (97.5 million) as it was a matter of fact, now if he hit that on the nose I'd believe him 100%.

aturnis 07-20-2015 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11609269)
Dude, you just proved my point he guessed.

No, I didn't.

aturnis 07-20-2015 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11609276)
He said it was going to happen. He said he had inside info. He showed where previous inside info came true. What's your problem with it?

He even hit the day right. Chiefs even said the deal was reached on Tuesday, but waited to announce, as he said.

Rasputin 07-20-2015 10:34 PM

Because forgery is illegal?

You can't forcibly make someone sign a piece of paper?


They never made him an offer that he couldn't refuse months ago?

aturnis 07-20-2015 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11609300)
Easy, if such info was leaked it would've immediately hit twitter ESPN/NFLN.

He also stated the wrong amount (97.5 million) as it was a matter of fact, now if he hit that on the nose I'd believe him 100%.

One guy, telling a friend, does not immediately inform Schefter.

Tribal Warfare 07-20-2015 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 11609317)
One guy, telling a friend, does not immediately inform Schefter.



That's Schefter's job, if any murmuring of the sort would cause holy hell on every form of media to get the scoop to confirm.

DaneMcCloud 07-20-2015 10:43 PM

LMAO

aturnis 07-20-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11609327)
That's Schefter's job, if any murmuring of the sort would cause holy hell on every form of media to get the scoop to confirm.

Murmuring? It was a guy telling another guy.

Are you saying Schefter has a tap on Weatherman's phone?

Tribal Warfare 07-20-2015 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 11609330)
Murmuring? It was a guy telling another guy.

Are you saying Schefter has a tap on Weatherman's phone?

I'm saying if there was a leak he'd use it like the HIPPA violation of JPP with his hand

The Bad Guy 07-20-2015 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11608680)
It's kind of cute watching some of you guys hate on him after he called his shot. It's not unreasonable to think they had it so close that it leaked it was getting done. Amazing that we put people down for doing essentially what this site was originally designed to do. Give us die hards some insider info. Ok, gang...

I'll never understand it, but to each their own.

Guy called the shot. Contract was done for around what he said. Guy gets flamed for no reason.

Rinse and repeat.

The Bad Guy 07-20-2015 10:50 PM

It's good to see that Tribal is still a mouth breathing moron.

aturnis 07-20-2015 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11609339)
I'm saying if there was a leak he'd use it like the HIPPA violation of JPP with his hand

How did he know a guy told another guy? Does he know what my fiance and I tell each other in bed?

The Bad Guy 07-20-2015 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11609300)
Easy, if such info was leaked it would've immediately hit twitter ESPN/NFLN.

He also stated the wrong amount (97.5 million) as it was a matter of fact, now if he hit that on the nose I'd believe him 100%.

There is something mentally wrong with you.

The Bad Guy 07-20-2015 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 11609343)
How did he know a guy told another guy? Does he know what my fiance and I tell each other in bed?

Tribal does. He understands the psychology of all social situations. His dad also played QB for the YMCA flag football league so he could tell you the ins and outs of playing the position in the NFL.

aturnis 07-20-2015 10:52 PM

He should have flashed these creds. I digress.

The Bad Guy 07-20-2015 10:53 PM

What would have been the reason to pay Houston prior to the deadline? There was zero benefit for the Chiefs. They managed to sign players they wanted, re-sign their own FAs.

jonzie04 07-20-2015 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 11609349)
What would have been the reason to pay Houston prior to the deadline? There was zero benefit for the Chiefs. They managed to sign players they wanted, re-sign their own FAs.

Cap space. To sign free agents when there were still good players available. And how do you know they managed to sign all the players they wanted? How do you know they kept all the free agents they wanted? Every team would want to have a manning, suh etc, but they are forced to work with what they have. With another 8m in cap space who knows what would have happened.

DaneMcCloud 07-20-2015 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 11609340)
I'll never understand it, but to each their own.

Guy called the shot. Contract was done for around what he said. Guy gets flamed for no reason.

Rinse and repeat.

It's really a shame.

Brock 07-20-2015 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 11609344)
There is something mentally wrong with you.

No, he's just a dildo.

-King- 07-20-2015 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 11609077)
Bullshit.

Dorsey: How about 6 years 92 million?

Houston/agent: Too low, you can do better.

Dorsey: Alright, we got creative, and we think we can do 6 yrs 97.5 with 50 mil guaranteed.

Houston/agent: Getting closer, you're in the ballpark. I'll come to town and we can figure it out from there.

Clark: What's he say?

Dorsey: He'll be here Tuesday, a couple details to workout, but I think we've got it.

Weatherman's source gets details, thinks it's a done deal, but wasn't completely in the loop, and here we are.


Point is, there's a hundred ways he could have had info that both he and his source thought was correct, but they were just a little misinformed.

You got a family, or a job? Shit happens all the time when trying to make plans and get everyone on the same page.

Fact is, he was so freaking close, it's not funny.

Are you people serious? Houston was expected to sign for around $100mil by everyone. Weatherman being close is not a sign of anything other than the fact that he read some articles and guesses on what Houston would get. He was off on both the guarantee and total contract worth. That's not "close"
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-King- 07-20-2015 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 11609340)
I'll never understand it, but to each their own.

Guy called the shot. Contract was done for around what he said. Guy gets flamed for no reason.

Rinse and repeat.

Weatherman has trolled an entire message board before. He has no track record of being right. And he really wasn't THAT close.
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-King- 07-20-2015 11:52 PM

Still waiting on the press conference he promised BTW.
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007 07-20-2015 11:58 PM

Who cares. He is a Chief for a long time.

RealSNR 07-21-2015 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11609368)
Are you people serious? Houston was expected to sign for around $100mil by everyone. Weatherman being close is not a sign of anything other than the fact that he read some articles and guesses on what Houston would get. He was off on both the guarantee and total contract worth. That's not "close"
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He announced this deal would take place before any media sources like PFT were saying that the Chiefs were resuming talks.

Up until that point we had no freakin clue if Dorsey was still making phone calls or if he just said, "**** it" and decided to take a vacation like Carl did.

chiefzilla1501 07-21-2015 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11609369)
Weatherman has trolled an entire message board before. He has no track record of being right. And he really wasn't THAT close.
Posted via Mobile Device

I don't know anything about his track record.

But anyone saying it was an easy guess is completely talking out of their ass. Most on that thread predicted Houston would accept the tag and then plenty felt he'd be so pissed he'd be out of KC in 2 years.

Others in the thread predicted JJ Watt money was on the high end and that the chiefs would offer OLB money.

He went on the thread, predicted the contract would be done by Wednesday, and predicted close to JJ Watt money. Pretty bold prediction. And I can't believe people think being off by $3.5M is not considered a "close" guess

007 07-21-2015 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11609397)
I don't know anything about his track record.

But anyone saying it was an easy guess is completely talking out of their ass. Most on that thread predicted Houston would accept the tag and then plenty felt he'd be so pissed he'd be out of KC in 2 years.

Others in the thread predicted JJ Watt money was on the high end and that the chiefs would offer OLB money.

He went on the thread, predicted the contract would be done by Wednesday, and predicted close to JJ Watt money. Pretty bold prediction. And I can't believe people think being off by $3.5M is not considered a "close" guess

Predicting the contract would be done by Wednesday was't really a stretch. It was cut off day. It was either going to be done or he was tagged.

saphojunkie 07-21-2015 01:43 AM

The discussion in this thread is matched in pointless stupidity only by the original concept of this thread.

-King- 07-21-2015 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11609385)
He announced this deal would take place before any media sources like PFT were saying that the Chiefs were resuming talks.

Up until that point we had no freakin clue if Dorsey was still making phone calls or if he just said, "**** it" and decided to take a vacation like Carl did.

He's the same guy who said we'd sign Manning. And then came here bragging about trolling arrowhead pride on that issue. He has nothing to lose if he's wrong.

It doesn't exactly take Nostradamus to predict a franchise player signing at the deadline. That's when they sign the vast majority of the time.
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-King- 07-21-2015 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11609397)
I don't know anything about his track record.

But anyone saying it was an easy guess is completely talking out of their ass. Most on that thread predicted Houston would accept the tag and then plenty felt he'd be so pissed he'd be out of KC in 2 years.

Others in the thread predicted JJ Watt money was on the high end and that the chiefs would offer OLB money.

He went on the thread, predicted the contract would be done by Wednesday, and predicted close to JJ Watt money. Pretty bold prediction. And I can't believe people think being off by $3.5M is not considered a "close" guess

Whoa, he predicted that a franchise player would sign at the deadline for around the money he was asking for and deserved? Stop the presses!
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Sweet Daddy Hate 07-21-2015 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11608680)
It's kind of cute watching some of you guys hate on him after he called his shot. It's not unreasonable to think they had it so close that it leaked it was getting done. Amazing that we put people down for doing essentially what this site was originally designed to do. Give us die hards some insider info. Ok, gang...

LMAO

Bob Dole 07-21-2015 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 11609402)
The discussion in this thread is matched in pointless stupidity only by the original concept of this thread.

True dat.

Eleazar 07-21-2015 06:16 AM

We had the best offseason we've had in 20 years... planet gonna planet

Red Dawg 07-21-2015 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11609373)
Who cares. He is a Chief for a long time.

No shit. We all wanted him to sign and think a Watt type deal is fair and that is what happened. Now they need to lock up Poe as he is just as important.


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