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Hammock Parties 10-13-2015 08:24 AM

NFL source: Chiefs facing "abyss"
 
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http://www.kctv5.com/story/30243233/...s-facing-abyss

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KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

As bad as the first five weeks have been for the Chiefs, it could get a lot worse.

That is the verdict of one long-time NFL executive.

"I don't have to be there to know how bad it is inside their offices and locker room," he said. "When you lose a game like Sunday's loss to the Bears, there's a real hangover."

That makes sense, KC blew a 17-3 lead against a poor Chicago team to fall to 1-4 on the season. Two of those losses came at home, and they were in games that the Chiefs seemed to have in hand. Offensive mistakes and poor defense fueled the defeats.

But, as bad as that is, it could lead to bigger problems.

"The concern for Andy is that the guys stop buying in," he told KCTV5. "If they stop listening to coaches, or start pointing fingers at each other, this could really get ugly."

The long-time exec has always been a big fan of Chiefs coach Andy Reid, but he said Reid is in a dangerous situation.

"I think the players respect Andy," he said, "But if the owner undermines him in any way, that could change. It could really implode."

Chiefs Chairman Clark Hunt personally selected his head coach and general manager John Dorsey, so it would appear highly unlikely that he would do or say anything to put the leaders of his franchise in a bad light. Even when faced with firing former GMs Carl Peterson and Scott Pioli, Hunt did nothing in advance to put his GMs in a bad position.

The NFL executive told KCTV5 that he is also worried about the Chiefs quarterback.

"Alex Smith has been left 'naked,'" he said, "First, he had no offensive line and now he loses the main component of his running game. Good luck with that."

He said the loss of running back Jamaal Charles will make Reid's game-planning and play calling job a lot harder, and that an already weak Chiefs offense will have an even harder time moving forward.

He also said the problems extend to the defense.

"I think (Chiefs defensive coordinator) Bob Sutton's in trouble." he said. "I really like Bob, but that defense should be better."

The veteran exec has faced these kinds of issues himself, and he says he "feels for those guys." "I hope they get it fixed," he said.

So do the millions of Chiefs fans worldwide.

KC will play at Minnesota this Sunday. A game you can see right here on KCTV5. Kick off's at noon.

ptlyon 10-13-2015 08:29 AM

I truly believe this team would be better if they didn't listen to the coaches!

KC_Lee 10-13-2015 08:30 AM

Clark won't do anything to undermine Reid, he won't do anything at all and that's part of the problem.

Bowser 10-13-2015 08:31 AM

Please. Like Clark is going to undermine anything. It took a stadium half full of people wearing black flying banners overhead for him to make a change. He isn't going to do shit this season. If they go 4-12 this year and start out 1-5 next year, then maybe we'll see a little action.

On the other hand, Bob Sutton absolutely SHOULD be afraid for his job.

Dayze 10-13-2015 08:32 AM

ground breaking quotes from 'the source'.
LMAO.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-13-2015 08:32 AM

We'll get this fixed. We'll be 12-4 .

West will be a diamond in the rough.

Unless Sorenson goes down.

BlackHelicopters 10-13-2015 08:33 AM

Team has not hit rock bottom yet.

New World Order 10-13-2015 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 11798727)
I truly believe this team would be better if they didn't listen to the coaches!


Sutton for sure.

gblowfish 10-13-2015 08:34 AM

We're going to London so other teams can come to Kansas City and play for a championship. Get with the program.

Donger 10-13-2015 08:35 AM

Man looks in the abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2015 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 11798732)
ground breaking quotes from 'the source'.
LMAO.

It's KCTV5. I bet they talked to Ray Farmer or something.

notorious 10-13-2015 08:45 AM

This so-called "Executive" hasn't watched the Chiefs and doesn't know shit about them.


First off, Clark never says anything. Second, Alex is not left naked, he just flat-out sucks.

Watch the games before you comment on something you know nothing about.

teedubya 10-13-2015 08:48 AM

I'm not sure that Clay Wendler is actually a fan of the Chiefs anymore... he seems to be happy when the Chiefs suck, more than when they are winning. Maybe he is a secretly a Bronco fan, these days?

notorious 10-13-2015 08:49 AM

Clay is celebrating because he is right.

Dude was a full-blown homer in the mid-2000's.

jimidollar 10-13-2015 08:49 AM

Okay, I admit it. I was the source.

splatbass 10-13-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11798729)
Clark won't do anything to undermine Reid, he won't do anything at all and that's part of the problem.

Clark has fired 3 HCs and 2 GMs in his short time in charge. That directly contradicts your statement.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 08:54 AM

I worry about Peters.

headsnap 10-13-2015 08:55 AM

Who cares what Pioli thinks...





even if he is right!

alpha_omega 10-13-2015 08:55 AM

The article should be...."Chiefs fans facing the abyss"

Eleazar 10-13-2015 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11798759)
This so-called "Executive" hasn't watched the Chiefs and doesn't know shit about them.

First off, Clark never says anything. Second, Alex is not left naked, he just flat-out sucks.

Watch the games before you comment on something you know nothing about.

It's obviously a BS source. None of this washes with anything we know about Hunt.

Sure, before Clark, ownership never reacted to Carl's failure at all. But Clark sent him on his way, and although it was a year too late, he sent Pioli on his way too.

I don't think we should be imagining that Clark will behave like Lamar when there is plenty of evidence to suggest he's more involved.

telling his GM he has to fire his handpicked head coach in the middle of year three does not sound like Clark. He doesn't micromanage the team. He sounds like someone who evaluates the GM year by year.

Why Not? 10-13-2015 08:57 AM

Facing an abyss? This franchise has been right in the middle of one for years

TEX 10-13-2015 08:57 AM

Chiefs "facing abyss" in ONLY YEAR 3. Cant make this stuff up! ROFL

And the REAL HANGOVER came week 2. THAT was the defining moment of the season. Been a train wreck ever since..

Because Chiefs...

BTW this so called "source" is full of shit. To even suggest some of the stuff he did about Clark is waaaaaay off.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 08:58 AM

What's pathetic is seeing teams (like Denver) with less defensive talent having defenses that far exceed ours.

notorious 10-13-2015 09:00 AM

3-8 in the last 11 games........

Sandy Vagina 10-13-2015 09:01 AM

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The NFL executive told KCTV5 that he is also worried about the Chiefs quarterback.

"Alex Smith has been left 'naked,'" he said, "First, he had no offensive line and now he loses the main component of his running game. Good luck with that."

He said the loss of running back Jamaal Charles will make Reid's game-planning and play calling job a lot harder, and that an already weak Chiefs offense will have an even harder time moving forward.

He also said the problems extend to the defense.

"I think (Chiefs defensive coordinator) Bob Sutton's in trouble." he said. "I really like Bob, but that defense should be better."

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BossChief 10-13-2015 09:01 AM

It's darkest before the dawn.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11798804)
3-8 in the last 11 games........

Guy jumping out of the building on fire worthy

Bowser 10-13-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 11798776)
Clark has fired 3 HCs and 2 GMs in his short time in charge. That directly contradicts your statement.

Clark needs to step away from the football operations entirely. Hire some Executive VP of Everything and let THAT guy make the decisions as to who to hire to GM and coach the team. So far Clark has sucked at that job. Just own the team and run the trust, Clark. Let football people do the football stuff.

chiefzilla1501 10-13-2015 09:04 AM

Well it's good to know that once again, we are going to assume there is dysfunction everywhere except the QB position. Maybe if we surround Alex with an all world offensive line and top 5 defense, we can go back to competing. Why do all these damn articles continue to insist he's a victim to the problem when he's the biggest part of the problem?

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:04 AM

Alex Cassel

notorious 10-13-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11798814)
Guy jumping out of the building on fire worthy

I am saving that for later.


In the mean-time:

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-co...out-window.gif

notorious 10-13-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11798820)
Well it's good to know that once again, we are going to assume there is dysfunction everywhere except the QB position. Maybe if we surround Alex with an all world offensive line and top 5 defense, we can go back to competing. Why do all these damn articles continue to insist he's a victim to the problem when he's the biggest part of the problem?

That's what I took from the article.


Nobody in "the media" is pointing the finger at Sith. It's insane.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11798822)
I am saving that for later.


In the mean-time:

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-co...out-window.gif

12-17 since the 9-0 start for Andy and Cassel Jr.

BigMeatballDave 10-13-2015 09:07 AM

The only hope I have of breaking free from this team is if Clark relocates to London.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:10 AM

The creature must consume us all before we rise out.

notorious 10-13-2015 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11798841)
The creature must consume us all before we rise out.

or get pooped out.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:12 AM

Well we are in a world of shit

Mr. Laz 10-13-2015 09:12 AM

Why is this troll still allow to post?

Sandy Vagina 10-13-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11798820)
Why do all these damn articles continue to insist he's a victim to the problem when he's the biggest part of the problem?

They probably have nude Alex posters taped to the ceiling above their beds?

Has to be, right? Cuz they can't possibly see things differently than CP otherwise...

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BossChief 10-13-2015 09:14 AM

Baseball lost me in the mid 90s
Basketball lost me in the mid 2000s.

If we don't draft a QB with our high first rounder this time, the Chiefs will lose me until they get real about trying to win it all. That starts by drafting a supremely talented QB and developing him.

notorious 10-13-2015 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11798850)
Well we are in a world of shit

http://iamthearbiter.com/wp-content/...vate_pile.jpeg


"We are.....in a world......of SHIT."

Red Dawg 10-13-2015 09:18 AM

Stupid article. Smith is really the issue. He is just that bad and how many times will players be open and misses them or is to chicken to throw the ball before they stop trying.

Andy may have to bench him when the revolt starts.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 11798867)
Stupid article. Smith is really the issue. He is just that bad and how many times will players be open and misses them or is to chicken to throw the ball before they stop trying.

Andy may have to bench him when the revolt starts.

True, but this defense has cost us two games by shitting their pants the final drive, been lit up by Ginger, and has given up big plays all year. Including losing to a washed up QB having an awful year and a gimpy, dipshit Cutler with no receivers.

Alex Smith 4Ever 10-13-2015 09:21 AM

I just want to say this

Alex Smith came back from this moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_N5TCcAjkQ

Today 49ers fans would kill to have Alex back.

There is no one on the planet I would rather have leading this team in crisis than Alex Smith

KCUnited 10-13-2015 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith 4Ever (Post 11798874)
I just want to say this

Alex Smith came back from this moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_N5TCcAjkQ

Today 49ers fans would kill to have Alex back.

There is no one on the planet I would rather have leading this team in crisis than Alex Smith

Please start with yourself.

notorious 10-13-2015 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith 4Ever (Post 11798874)

Today 49ers fans would kill to have Alex back.

No bloodshed needed. You can have him, free of charge.

Baby Lee 10-13-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11798820)
Well it's good to know that once again, we are going to assume there is dysfunction everywhere except the QB position. Maybe if we surround Alex with an all world offensive line and top 5 defense, we can go back to competing. Why do all these damn articles continue to insist he's a victim to the problem when he's the biggest part of the problem?

He's not a victim, the team sucks. It's talented, but soft. I don't care if they're slagging because they are mental midgets, or they're slagging because they're throwing a QB temper tantrum. Manning is great, but playing like shit right now. Know what, the less talented defense of theirs DOESN'T GIVE A ****!! They're wrecking lives like they were paid professionals or something.

Sandy Vagina 10-13-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11798871)
True, but this defense has cost us two games by shitting their pants the final drive, been lit up by Ginger, and has given up big plays all year. Including a washed up QB having an awful year a gimpy, dipshit Cutler with no receivers.

Finally, someone else says it. :clap:

... this is not to take away from Alex sucking either. He should be playing better football... but if not for the D shitting themselves at the end of two games... this team would be 3-2 right now.

Baby Lee 10-13-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11798884)
Finally, someone else says it. :clap:

... this is not to take away from Alex sucking either. He should be playing better football... but if not for the D shitting themselves at the end of two games... this team would be 3-2 right now.

But they're dead dog tired from being on the field 22 minutes out of a 60 minute game!!

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:27 AM

The defense fed me to the creature. Already knew Alex was a lost cause.

Sandy Vagina 10-13-2015 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11798888)
But they're dead dog tired from being on the field 22 minutes out of a 60 minute game!!

ROFL !!! yeah, that excuse never had a chance anyway.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:29 AM

Losing that lead to ****ler was beyond pathetic. It's 32 D level suck...

New World Order 10-13-2015 09:30 AM

Dorsey, Andy, Bob and Alex are the problems.

Get rid of em.

Rasputin 10-13-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11798759)
This so-called "Executive" hasn't watched the Chiefs and doesn't know shit about them.


First off, Clark never says anything. Second, Alex is not left naked, he just flat-out sucks.

Watch the games before you comment on something you know nothing about.


Just how in the media has Alex Smith to be absolved of being a terrible quarterback? He sucks but the blame always goes to Oline or WRs. He brings this team down.

DaneMcCloud 10-13-2015 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11798784)
It's obviously a BS source. None of this washes with anything we know about Hunt.

I think it's a former colleague of Reid's, maybe even Joe Banner or Tom Heckert, that's cautioning Hunt from firing him because they're friends.

Clark has fired three head coaches and two GM's since taking over the Chiefs and realizes his friend's job is at stake as well.

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11798784)
Sure, before Clark, ownership never reacted to Carl's failure at all. But Clark sent him on his way, and although it was a year too late, he sent Pioli on his way too.

I don't think we should be imagining that Clark will behave like Lamar when there is plenty of evidence to suggest he's more involved.

Exactly. See above.


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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11798784)
telling his GM he has to fire his handpicked head coach in the middle of year three does not sound like Clark. He doesn't micromanage the team. He sounds like someone who evaluates the GM year by year.

Reid reports directly to Clark Hunt so if he's fired, it would be Clark, not John Dorsey, dropping the axe.

If this team continues to lose, it's hard for me to believe that Clark Hunt will sit on his hands. That hasn't been his M.O., regardless of how much money it would cost him.

Reerun_KC 10-13-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11798820)
Well it's good to know that once again, we are going to assume there is dysfunction everywhere except the QB position. Maybe if we surround Alex with an all world offensive line and top 5 defense, we can go back to competing. Why do all these damn articles continue to insist he's a victim to the problem when he's the biggest part of the problem?

Because is Reids HANDPICKED solution at QB... Nobody wants to blame Reid for Alex's regression, so they deflect and place blame anywhere they can to avoid putting it where it belongs...

Rasputin 10-13-2015 09:42 AM

It's really Dorsey's job to get Reid the players other than his hand picked quarterback so I think if anybody is on the hot seat it's Dorsey.


Eric Fisher and Dee Ford don't help his case at all.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11798871)
True, but this defense has cost us two games by shitting their pants the final drive, been lit up by Ginger, and has given up big plays all year. Including losing to a washed up QB having an awful year and a gimpy, dipshit Cutler with no receivers.

You mean that defense that held the Bears to ****ing 3 points for a majority of the game. That same defense who was let down by a shit ****ing QB who couldn't score more than 10 ****ing points against a shitty Bears defense that had two rookies at S?

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798936)
You mean that defense that held the Bears to ****ing 3 points for a majority of the game. That same defense who was let down by a shit ****ing QB who couldn't score more than 10 ****ing points against a shitty Bears defense that had two rookies at S?

Oh trust me, I blame them too. But giving up close to 30 PPG and allowing two TD's to a gimpy ****ler with NO receivers in the final 3 minutes is frustrating as all ****. These are just rants of what should be a Top 5 defense failing to even come close to expectations. You absolutely have to put teams like a banged up Bear team away.

Reerun_KC 10-13-2015 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798936)
You mean that defense that held the Bears to ****ing 3 points for a majority of the game. That same defense who was let down by a shit ****ing QB who couldn't score more than 10 ****ing points against a shitty Bears defense that had two rookies at S?

And yet Reid keeps running him out there on gamedays....

:shake:

The Franchise 10-13-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11798940)
Oh trust me, I blame them too. But giving up close to 30 PPG and allowing two TD's to a gimpy ****ler with NO receivers in the final 3 minutes is frustrating as all ****.

The Bears had the ball for over 33 minutes in that game. The Bears loss is entirely on Smith and his inability to throw the ball accurately and keep this defense off the field. How many passes did he completely ****ing miss on? How many 3rd down conversions did he **** up because he couldn't throw an accurate ball when he had a perfectly acceptable pocket around him? You could swap defenses with the Broncos unit and this team would be right where it's at because defenses get ****ing tired when they have to continually go up against an offense with no ****ing rest.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11798941)
And yet Reid keeps running him out there on gamedays....

:shake:

Oh dude.....I'm about done with Reid at this point. The fact that he keeps trotting out this piece of shit, pussy QB when he knows that he can't run this offense is getting ****ing old.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-13-2015 09:50 AM

Alex Cassel folks.

Chiefnj2 10-13-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11798884)
Finally, someone else says it. :clap:

... this is not to take away from Alex sucking either. He should be playing better football... but if not for the D shitting themselves at the end of two games... this team would be 3-2 right now.

The offense going 3 and out on their last three drives certainly didn't help the D or run the clock to preserve the lead.

chiefzilla1501 10-13-2015 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11798881)
He's not a victim, the team sucks. It's talented, but soft. I don't care if they're slagging because they are mental midgets, or they're slagging because they're throwing a QB temper tantrum. Manning is great, but playing like shit right now. Know what, the less talented defense of theirs DOESN'T GIVE A ****!! They're wrecking lives like they were paid professionals or something.

Peyton is a team leader. Alex Smith is an accessory to a good team. Big difference. We can fix everything around him. But even still, does anybody think Alex Smith can consistently win games where the defense and running game isn't carrying him? If not, then what are we building around? An improved defense does us no good when Alex has a disgustingly bad track record at third downs and 4th quarter play. A new ol does nothing if he doesn't read the Blitz and immediately looks for a check down. New receivers mean nothing I'd you take away any route more than 15 yards. And while Alex seems like a genuinely great guy, he doesn't show any emotion out there. He's too polite to take charge

I don't think Alex is the worst QB in the world. But he is a big piece to holding us back.

Reerun_KC 10-13-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798950)
Oh dude.....I'm about done with Reid at this point. The fact that he keeps trotting out this piece of shit, pussy QB when he knows that he can't run this offense is getting ****ing old.

I still think it will be his downfall.. He tied himself to Smith with the two picks and huge contract...

Smith fails = Reid complete failure...

Baby Lee 10-13-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798936)
You mean that defense that held the Bears to ****ing 3 points for a majority of the game. That same defense who was let down by a shit ****ing QB who couldn't score more than 10 ****ing points against a shitty Bears defense that had two rookies at S?

Yeah, that defense. If you're talented enough to do it early, you're talented enough to do it late, unless you're craven.

Baby Lee 10-13-2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798948)
The Bears had the ball for over 33 minutes in that game. The Bears loss is entirely on Smith and his inability to throw the ball accurately and keep this defense off the field. How many passes did he completely ****ing miss on? How many 3rd down conversions did he **** up because he couldn't throw an accurate ball when he had a perfectly acceptable pocket around him? You could swap defenses with the Broncos unit and this team would be right where it's at because defenses get ****ing tired when they have to continually go up against an offense with no ****ing rest.

You're just a lazy fan who wants nothing more than for the Chiefs to have ONE problem to fix.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 09:54 AM

This team needs to dump worthless players and start ****ing over.....AGAIN.

As it is right now....we've got $35 million in cap room next season.

CUT:

Alex Smith (June 1st)
Josh Mauga
Paul Fainaka
Marcus Cooper

RETIRE:
Tamba Hali
Derrick Johnson

RE-SIGN:

Sean Smith
Eric Berry
Jaye Howard

New World Order 10-13-2015 09:55 AM

The defense has actually played very well in 3 of the games this year. Without the d we wouldn't have had a chance to win.

The d gave the offense 14 pts against Houston.

The d gave up 17 points to Denver and actually had a pick 6. This means all our scrubby offense had to do was put up 14 points and take care of the ball.

The D held the Bears to 18 points and gave the offense 7 points. The offense only needed to score 12 ****ing points against the scrubby bears.

The offense is ****ing pathetic and is the reason the we aren't above .500.

Case ****ing closed.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11798972)
You're just a lazy fan who wants nothing more than for the Chiefs to have ONE problem to fix.

You mean the one problem that is obvious? The one problem that has been here for the last ****ing 7-8 years?

Baby Lee 10-13-2015 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11798960)
Peyton is a team leader. Alex Smith is an accessory to a good team. Big difference. We can fix everything around him. But even still, does anybody think Alex Smith can consistently win games where the defense and running game isn't carrying him? If not, then what are we building around? An improved defense does us no good when Alex has a disgustingly bad track record at third downs and 4th quarter play. A new ol does nothing if he doesn't read the Blitz and immediately looks for a check down. New receivers mean nothing I'd you take away any route more than 15 yards. And while Alex seems like a genuinely great guy, he doesn't show any emotion out there. He's too polite to take charge

I don't think Alex is the worst QB in the world. But he is a big piece to holding us back.

Alex could do what Peyton's doing this year with Denver and they'd be just a good.

Belichick could be coaching this team with Alex on it, and they'd be in SB contention.

Alex isn't be the best or worst QB, but he's far from the organization's biggest problem.

Baby Lee 10-13-2015 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798977)
You mean the one problem that is obvious? The one problem that has been here for the last ****ing 7-8 years?

No, the ones that have been there for 44 ****ing years.

Sandy Vagina 10-13-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11798954)
The offense going 3 and out on their last three drives certainly didn't help the D or run the clock to preserve the lead.

I am sure it didn't help. That really doesn't change the fact that KC held the leads at the very end of those games, and the defense couldn't maintain the leads. There is simply no way around that.

Reerun_KC 10-13-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11798954)
The offense going 3 and out on their last three drives certainly didn't help the D or run the clock to preserve the lead.

Clay, can you post the drive charts so we can see if Reid decided to pass the clock or run the clock to end the game...

Lets see if Reid hindered or helped his team with his game mgmt. and play calling.

New World Order 10-13-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11798993)
I am sure it didn't help. That really doesn't change the fact that KC held the leads at the very end of those games, and the defense couldn't maintain the leads. There is simply no way around that.


If the offense puts up 14 points vs denver (while taking care of the ball) and 12 against Chicago we are 3-2.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11798993)
I am sure it didn't help. That really doesn't change the fact that KC held the leads at the very end of those games, and the defense couldn't maintain the leads. There is simply no way around that.

Yeah...it has nothing to do with a QB who can't ****ing put points on the board because he routinely misses throws and shits down his leg when he has time.

We could be leading 6-3 and you would blame the defense if they gave up the winning TD.

Baby Lee 10-13-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798948)
The Bears had the ball for over 33 minutes in that game. The Bears loss is entirely on Smith and his inability to throw the ball accurately and keep this defense off the field. How many passes did he completely ****ing miss on? How many 3rd down conversions did he **** up because he couldn't throw an accurate ball when he had a perfectly acceptable pocket around him? You could swap defenses with the Broncos unit and this team would be right where it's at because defenses get ****ing tired when they have to continually go up against an offense with no ****ing rest.

Don't oversell it. Alex had a bad game, but there were still at least 5 perfect 3rd down throws for first down that were flat out dropped, and Maclin's bobble on the last play in FG range was Bowe-esque.

I can understand wanting a better QB. But this fanbase seems insistent of somehow getting a QB so good the rest of the team doesn't even have to show up, nor the fans, nor the coaches. Just throw super-QB out there and every game is a blowout, never in doubt, win.

Reerun_KC 10-13-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11799000)
If the offense puts up 14 points vs denver (while taking care of the ball) and 12 against Chicago we are 3-2.

And that falls squarely on the shoulders of Reid and Smith...

Mother****erJones 10-13-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11799010)
Don't oversell it. Alex had a bad game, but there were still at least 5 perfect 3rd down throws for first down that were flat out dropped, and Maclin's bobble on the last play in FG range was Bowe-esque.

FG range? That catch would've made it like a 60 yard FG instead of 66 lol.


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