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Saccopoo 10-13-2015 10:11 AM

Sac's Easy 4 Step Process for the Chiefs
 
1. Bob Sutton has to go.

- The defense, despite having a shit ton of talent, has folded in the second half of far too many games. The Colts playoff game was not an outlier. His scheme sucks. Guy calls two brilliant blitzes a game, but otherwise his defense has repeatedly failed at the most critical times.

I'd fire Sutton now, elevate Tommy Brasher to Interm Defensive Coordinator right now, and then hire Gus Bradley (if he gets fired from Jacksonville) or Utah's Kyle Whittingham at the end of the season for the position. You'll pay a lot for either, but they are the best at either level (pros/college) in setting up a defense.

2. Alex Smith needs to be benched right now.

- His confidence is shot and he's making poor throws and decisions with the ball. Daniel needs to start this weekend to give this team a shot in the arm. After that, if Smith gets his head back in the game, they can put him back in or, preferably, start Murray. He's been in the system for two years now and it's time to see if he can play in this league. The rest of the season should be about finding out if any of these three guys should be on the roster in 2016.

3. Reid needs to give up play calling duties.

- This can happen at the end of this season. Hire a new offensive coordinator who is capable of moving the offense forward, a la Mike McCarthy in Green Bay. Players like Reid - a lot. He motivates them and gets them to buy into the concept. But he makes bad game time calls that have cost this team. He needs to be a head coach versus a coordinator and head coach.

If Steve Sarkisian is dried out by the end of the season, he'd be my guy. He's very creative offensively and has been very successful in building high level working offenses quickly. He'll be under a smaller microscope in Kansas City but he'll be fresh off the humiliation of his current situation and trying to redeem himself in the eyes of the sport. Good possible canidate for future head coach.

4. A new QB in the 2016 Draft

- Dorsey uses a veritable army of scouts, the latest analysis technology, etc. He needs to put all of those resources to work starting yesterday to make sure that they pick the best QB for the team in the 2016 draft. Fine tooth comb the position and spend that first round pick on getting the guy that they target. No more pussyfooting around with the position. Just do it. And if that guy ends up sucking, do it again in 2017. They can also spend a third/fourth rounder on another QB in 2016 just to make sure. But they have to do this right now. For the team, for the fans.

ToxSocks 10-13-2015 10:13 AM

Wouldn't be a Sacc post without a Utah plug...

Pablo 10-13-2015 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11799034)
Wouldn't be a Sacc post without a Utah plug...

LMAO

No shit.

Pablo 10-13-2015 10:15 AM

This is the 'Golden Era', no?

What's this fix all about?

Mother****erJones 10-13-2015 10:16 AM

ROFL **** Utah

Reerun_KC 10-13-2015 10:17 AM

Daniel gives the team a "shot in the arm"? You mean he needs a shot in his Smith like noodle arm?

Saccopoo 10-13-2015 10:17 AM

Go ask Oregon or Michigan what they think of Whittingham's defensive play calling and get back to me on it, k?

Rasputin 10-13-2015 10:18 AM

There would be no reason bring Alex Back in after you bench him. Bench him for good.


Only wishful thinking but wish we could trade Alex Smith for draft pick 2016 draft 3rd round to a stupid team like Colts GM.

Saccopoo 10-13-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 11799049)
There would be no reason bring Alex Back in after you bench him. Bench him for good.


Only wishful thinking but wish we could trade Alex Smith for draft pick 2016 draft 3rd round to a stupid team like Colts GM.

That works just fine too.

Pablo 10-13-2015 10:18 AM

This team doesn't need any more UTAIDS Sac. Don't really care what Oregon or Michigan think about him.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 10:19 AM

1. Fire Bob Sutton.
2. Fire Andy Heck.
3. Reid loses playcalling duties.
4. Bench Smith and put in Murray.

BigMeatballDave 10-13-2015 10:20 AM

I'd at least start with letting Pederson call plays.

notorious 10-13-2015 10:26 AM

Notorious's 1 step program to fixing the Chiefs:


1. Stop supporting the team

ptlyon 10-13-2015 10:29 AM

Here's mine:

1. Have the team plane take off back home at the kickoff of the London game

salame 10-13-2015 10:29 AM

I'd rather see Murray than Daniel

Rain Man 10-13-2015 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11799057)
I'd at least start with letting Pederson call plays.

That's really all you need. The problem now is that Jamaal isn't there, so a different emphasis won't work. Might as well let Andy play out the season now, because the talent now fits his system better than it did when the greatest running back in NFL history was in the lineup.

Molitoth 10-13-2015 10:36 AM

Any of this is fine. No change is the worst Pioli-like decision that can be made.

RunKC 10-13-2015 10:45 AM

Poor Andy Heck. Gonna get fired for not performing miracles on an OL that has played musical chairs at all 5 positions every year.

Molitoth 10-13-2015 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11799113)
Poor Andy Heck. Gonna get fired for not performing miracles on an OL that has played musical chairs at all 5 positions every year.

Yep. They will use him as the scape goat and nothing will get any better.

saphojunkie 10-13-2015 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11799028)
1. Bob Sutton has to go.


2. Alex Smith needs to be benched right now.



3. Reid needs to give up play calling duties.



4. A new QB in the 2016 Draft

Details, shmetails. This is truth.

the Talking Can 10-13-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11799028)
1. Bob Sutton has to go.


2. Alex Smith needs to be benched right now.


3. Reid needs to give up play calling duties.


4. A new QB in the 2016 Draft

http://i.imgur.com/9Icb9yf.gif

Two-Twenty 10-13-2015 11:31 AM

Lololololololololololol at Steve Sarkisian being "dry" by next season...

He's an alcoholic going through a divorce, unemployment and a public humiliation, he's lost the respect of players and co-workers. His confidence will be shot for a while.

Aspengc8 10-13-2015 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11799028)

3. Reid needs to give up play calling duties.

- This can happen at the end of this season. Hire a new offensive coordinator who is capable of moving the offense forward, a la Mike McCarthy in Green Bay. Players like Reid - a lot. He motivates them and gets them to buy into the concept. But he makes bad game time calls that have cost this team. He needs to be a head coach versus a coordinator and head coach.

If Steve Sarkisian is dried out by the end of the season, he'd be my guy. He's very creative offensively and has been very successful in building high level working offenses quickly. He'll be under a smaller microscope in Kansas City but he'll be fresh off the humiliation of his current situation and trying to redeem himself in the eyes of the sport. Good possible canidate for future head coach.

Reid makes bad calls when it comes to play selection & time management, but doesn't lack 'creativity' or have good passing concepts. Receivers are open; ball not getting delivered is a lot different than crappy route combos & concepts.

Sully 10-13-2015 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11799028)
1. Bob Sutton has to go.

- The defense, despite having a shit ton of talent, has folded in the second half of far too many games. The Colts playoff game was not an outlier. His scheme sucks. Guy calls two brilliant blitzes a game, but otherwise his defense has repeatedly failed at the most critical times.

I'd fire Sutton now, elevate Tommy Brasher to Interm Defensive Coordinator right now, and then hire Gus Bradley (if he gets fired from Jacksonville) or Utah's Kyle Whittingham at the end of the season for the position. You'll pay a lot for either, but they are the best at either level (pros/college) in setting up a defense.

Just can't stop yourself from thinking someone from the barren state of Utah is any good. Other than that, good start. Except for wanting a guy to fill the role who retired from coaching in 2005. Sheesh...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11799028)
2. Alex Smith needs to be benched right now.

- His confidence is shot and he's making poor throws and decisions with the ball. Daniel needs to start this weekend to give this team a shot in the arm. After that, if Smith gets his head back in the game, they can put him back in or, preferably, start Murray. He's been in the system for two years now and it's time to see if he can play in this league. The rest of the season should be about finding out if any of these three guys should be on the roster in 2016.

Why does this team need a shot in the arm? I don't necessarily want them to tank on purpose, but what value is there is having Daniel (Who I love) play, in lieu of playing the younger guy to see what you've got?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11799028)
3. Reid needs to give up play calling duties.

- This can happen at the end of this season. Hire a new offensive coordinator who is capable of moving the offense forward, a la Mike McCarthy in Green Bay. Players like Reid - a lot. He motivates them and gets them to buy into the concept. But he makes bad game time calls that have cost this team. He needs to be a head coach versus a coordinator and head coach.

If Steve Sarkisian is dried out by the end of the season, he'd be my guy. He's very creative offensively and has been very successful in building high level working offenses quickly. He'll be under a smaller microscope in Kansas City but he'll be fresh off the humiliation of his current situation and trying to redeem himself in the eyes of the sport. Good possible canidate for future head coach.

I wouldn't mind this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11799028)
4. A new QB in the 2016 Draft

- Dorsey uses a veritable army of scouts, the latest analysis technology, etc. He needs to put all of those resources to work starting yesterday to make sure that they pick the best QB for the team in the 2016 draft. Fine tooth comb the position and spend that first round pick on getting the guy that they target. No more pussyfooting around with the position. Just do it. And if that guy ends up sucking, do it again in 2017. They can also spend a third/fourth rounder on another QB in 2016 just to make sure. But they have to do this right now. For the team, for the fans.

On board.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2015 12:46 PM

In just one month Sac went from ultimate homer to **** EVERYTHING.

So proud of you, buddy.

Urc Burry 10-13-2015 12:51 PM

Who do we resign? I think Howard and Berry are musts. Do we even bother with anyone on the O-line? I hope we can get Sean Smith too, but I'm betting that's unlikely

Saccopoo 10-13-2015 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 11799052)
This team doesn't need any more UTAIDS Sac. Don't really care what Oregon or Michigan think about him.

That's pretty closed minded. I'm not personally a Whittingham fan, but I do think he's the best defensive coach in college football. And he wins the big games. (Highest post season, bowl game winning percentage of any coach in college football history with the qualifying seven games or more.). Dude flat out can coach, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

And, by the way, I graduated from the University of Kansas. I'm not biased towards Utah other than living here now.

gblowfish 10-13-2015 12:58 PM

Personally, I don't care WHO calls the plays. But any pass play that throws the ball behind the line of scrimmage needs to be ripped from the playbook and burned.

Bob Dole 10-13-2015 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11799491)
Personally, I don't care WHO calls the plays. But any pass play that throws the ball behind the line of scrimmage needs to be ripped from the playbook and burned.

Isn't that a lateral?

Hammock Parties 10-13-2015 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11799491)
any pass play that throws the ball behind the line of scrimmage needs to be ripped from the playbook and burned.

You just eliminated 25% of Alex's throws.

http://i.imgur.com/r1zwldU.jpg

OctoberFart 10-13-2015 01:13 PM

Kyle Whittingham isn't taking a DC job. He is happy at the U and he could get a NFL HC gig if he wanted it . No need to take a cap job like KC DC.

petegz28 10-13-2015 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11799054)
1. Fire Bob Sutton.
2. Fire Andy Heck.
3. Reid loses playcalling duties.
4. Bench Smith and put in Murray.

This is about where I am. Murray gets the rest of the season to show whether or not he is on the team next year.

Bufkin 10-13-2015 11:32 PM

Kyle Whittingham served his LDS mission in Colorado, and his son served in Brazil. Their family is as Mormon as it gets. He would make a great NFL Head Coach!

Dave Lane 10-13-2015 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11799054)
1. Fire Bob Sutton.
2. Fire Andy Heck.
3. Reid loses playcalling duties.
4. Bench Smith and put in Murray.

I second this man's notion!

Dave Lane 10-13-2015 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11801155)
Kyle Whittingham served his LDS mission in Colorado, and his son served in Brazil. Their family is as Mormon as it gets. He would make a great NFL Head Coach!

I torpedo this man's notion!

Saccopoo 10-14-2015 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11801155)
Kyle Whittingham served his LDS mission in Colorado, and his son served in Brazil. Their family is as Mormon as it gets. He would make a great NFL Head Coach!

Bufkin, you aren't religiously intolerant, are you?

Jamie 10-14-2015 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11799028)
I'd fire Sutton now, elevate Tommy Brasher to Interm Defensive Coordinator right now

If we fired Sutton the interim guy would almost have to be Gary Gibbs. Brasher is 74 and hasn't been a coordinator in almost 40 years.

TEX 10-14-2015 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 11801196)
If we fired Sutton the interim guy would almost have to be Gary Gibbs. Brasher is 74 and hasn't been a coordinator in almost 40 years.

Exactly the case, but Sutton isn't going anywhere till after the season, regardless of how bad the defense is.

ChiefRocka 10-14-2015 05:24 AM

What about an O'Brien (OC)/Hackenberg reunion next year in Chiefs red?

Easy 6 10-14-2015 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11801247)
Exactly the case, but Sutton isn't going anywhere till after the season, regardless of how bad the defense is.

Sad but true, most here can surely recall how stubbornly Reid stuck with that last pos in philly... the guy is as hardheaded as they come, he absolutely will NOT bow to media/public pressure.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-14-2015 06:17 AM

My 6 step plan was better.

Simply Red 10-14-2015 06:58 AM

pretty sure Bufkin is a good Christian.

BWillie 10-14-2015 07:07 AM

Once we are firmly out of the playoff picture, I would go for Bray or Murray, whoever you think has the higher upside. I wouldn't go with Daniels at all, I'd rather go with the younger guys with higher upside.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-14-2015 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11801325)
Once we are firmly out of the playoff picture, I would go for Bray or Murray, whoever you think has the higher upside. I wouldn't go with Daniels at all, I'd rather go with the younger guys with higher upside.

I'd love to see Bray come in and sling, at least that would be interesting.

notorious 10-14-2015 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11801325)
Once we are firmly out of the playoff picture, I would go for Bray or Murray, whoever you think has the higher upside. I wouldn't go with Daniels at all, I'd rather go with the younger guys with higher upside.

LMAO


I am shocked nobody is pimping him right now. NOBODY.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-14-2015 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11801328)
LMAO


I am shocked nobody is pimping him right now. NOBODY.

:D

oldman 10-14-2015 07:14 AM

I think we're all pretty much in agreement on steps 1-3 of the OP. I'm going to differ right now with the OP on step 4. Playing Daniel proves nothing, so let's see what we have in Murray. If he sucks, draft a QB. If he doesn't, let's not waste a 1st on what appears to be a pretty weak QB class. Developmental QBs in the next draft can be had in later rounds.

rabblerouser 10-14-2015 07:15 AM

1 step for helping fox the Chiefs :

Fire Reid.

oldman 10-14-2015 07:23 AM

Firing Reid at this point doesn't do anything but appease the villagers with pitchforks. This season is lost, end of story. You know it, I know it, and Clark knows it. There isn't anyone that can turn this ship around.

Dave Lane 10-14-2015 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 11801348)
Firing Reid at this point doesn't do anything but appease the villagers with pitchforks. This season is lost, end of story. You know it, I know it, and Clark knows it. There isn't anyone that can turn this ship around.

And Reid isn't going anywhere, nor should he. He has till the end of next season barring complete collapse to show his stuff.

Those that will be led to the guoillotine first will be Andy's playcalling, Sutton, Heck, Alex and then maybe Andy goes if next year if he finishes below .500. Pretty much in that order is my guess.

milkman 10-14-2015 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 11801334)
I think we're all pretty much in agreement on steps 1-3 of the OP. I'm going to differ right now with the OP on step 4. Playing Daniel proves nothing, so let's see what we have in Murray. If he sucks, draft a QB. If he doesn't, let's not waste a 1st on what appears to be a pretty weak QB class. Developmental QBs in the next draft can be had in later rounds.

Here's the thing.

I was pretty adamant this past off season with the opinion that holding onto Chase Daniel was a waste of a roster spot.

He was pretty much an Alex Smith mini me as a QB, so I didn't give a rat's ass about his experience, which was the argument for keeping him.

In the preseason, however, I saw a completely different QB that I had seen in his previous preseason exposure, and his two regular season games against against the Chargers in the regular season.

It is not out of the question that Chase Daniel grew and progressed into an actual NFL calibre QB, and I would actually find out what he is before letting him walk.

If his presreason turns out to be a mirage, then you draft a QB next year, and let Murray, Bray and the drafted rookie battle it out.

milkman 10-14-2015 08:42 AM

The things that must change.

New DC.
New playcaller
New QB

Reerun_KC 10-14-2015 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11801386)
And Reid isn't going anywhere, nor should he. He has till the end of next season barring complete collapse to show his stuff.

Those that will be led to the guoillotine first will be Andy's playcalling, Sutton, Heck, Alex and then maybe Andy goes if next year if he finishes below .500. Pretty much in that order is my guess.

Reid has show his '"stuff" more than we need to see in the future.

He was at the top of his game on Thursday night for Denver.

Everyone got to see that "stuff" in all its glory.. The fat **** isn't changing nor is he leading this franchise anywhere. Soon the better.

oldman 10-14-2015 09:52 AM

The only thing wrong I see with playing Daniel is that he's a FA at the end of the year. If he does well, can we pony up the money to keep him and still take the cap hit for Smith? We have other potential FAs that warrant a raise. My contention is that Murray played just as well in preseason when the staff opened up the playbook for him.

RealSNR 10-14-2015 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 11801253)
What about an O'Brien (OC)/Hackenberg reunion next year in Chiefs red?

No Patriots.

I don't care how many reeruns on this forum pine for Haley and say, "Pioli wasn't so bad, he just had an attitude problem. He's calmed down I'll bet!"

Unless we're getting the SOURCE of the Patriot success (Tom Brady) I want none of their shit.

Hydrae 10-14-2015 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11801327)
I'd love to see Bray come in and sling, at least that would be interesting.

Other than that whole being on NFI-IR I would agree. I really want to see what we have in Bray. They must see something they really like since they gave him an extension even with him being hurt.

RunKC 10-14-2015 10:47 AM

I would trust Andy getting us a QB in the draft based on prior experience in Philly...

However, Andy's biggest problem is playcalling. The only way I would even consider keeping him is by him giving up playcalling duties. And that won't happen.

That's why We need a change

Molitoth 10-14-2015 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11801625)
No Patriots.

I don't care how many reeruns on this forum pine for Haley and say, "Pioli wasn't so bad, he just had an attitude problem. He's calmed down I'll bet!"

Unless we're getting the SOURCE of the Patriot success (Tom Brady) I want none of their shit.

I'd take Bill. He can be OUR cheater.

Discuss Thrower 10-14-2015 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 11801628)
Other than that whole being on NFI-IR I would agree. I really want to see what we have in Bray. They must see something they really like since they gave him an extension even with him being hurt.

Wiki sez NFI is the equivalent to PUP..

rabblerouser 10-14-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11801327)
I'd love to see Bray come in and sling, at least that would be interesting.

Chase Daniel is Alex Smith before Alex got destroyed.


Bray and Murray and a draft pick.

Saccopoo 10-14-2015 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11801736)
Chase Daniel is Alex Smith before Alex got destroyed.


Bray and Murray and a draft pick.

Bray can't beat out Murray or Daniel, who, in turn, can't beat out Smith.

You know what that says about your QB corps?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...32/998/33e.gif

Bowser 10-14-2015 12:31 PM

If, and I do mean IF we see any tangible change either with the roster or the coaches, we won't see it until after the bye week.

Bowser 10-14-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11801784)
Bray can't beat out Murray or Daniel, who, in turn, can't beat out Smith.

You know what that says about your QB corps?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...32/998/33e.gif

This, all day

Rausch 10-14-2015 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11801784)
Bray can't beat out Murray or Daniel, who, in turn, can't beat out Smith.

You know what that says about your QB corps?

That this franchise still doesn't have anyone who can evaluate QB talent...

The Franchise 10-14-2015 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11801784)
Bray can't beat out Murray or Daniel, who, in turn, can't beat out Smith.

You know what that says about your QB corps?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...32/998/33e.gif

Yes....because I'm sure Murray and Daniel have a legitimate shot to beat out a QB making $17 million.

Rausch 10-14-2015 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11801871)
Yes....because I'm sure Murray and Daniel have a legitimate shot to beat out a QB making $17 million.

Again, if those three are your QB's you aren't very good at evaluating QB talent...

Molitoth 10-14-2015 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11801784)
Bray can't beat out Murray or Daniel, who, in turn, can't beat out Smith.

You know what that says about your QB corps?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...32/998/33e.gif

Beat out????!!!??? Beat out????

Jesus dude, wtf.


Reid spent millions and 2 draft picks to bring his hand picked golden boy QB to KC. Do you really think he has the balls to bench him and go with a backup QB based on "beating him out" on the practice field?

:banghead:

oaklandhater 10-14-2015 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 11802249)
Beat out????!!!??? Beat out????

Jesus dude, wtf.


Reid spent millions and 2 draft picks to bring his hand picked golden boy QB to KC. Do you really think he has the balls to bench him and go with a backup QB based on "beating him out" on the practice field?

:banghead:

This the moment Reid puts alex on the bench he is pretty much telling Clark I should be fired I have no idea what I'm doing and the game passed me by long ago.

milkman 10-14-2015 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 11802259)
This the moment Reid puts alex on the bench he is pretty much telling Clark I should be fired I have no idea what I'm doing and the game passed me by long ago.

That is not necessarily true.
Smith has tools to work with, and he has shown flashes of greatness.

What he appears to lack is the mental tools, but even the best evaluators can't know that until they work with them on.

Bowser 10-14-2015 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11802450)
That is not necessarily true.
Smith has tools to work with, and he has shown flashes of greatness.

What he appears to lack is the mental tools, but even the best evaluators can't know that until they work with them on.

I wonder if that spleen injury has just completely ****ed his confidence up. He looks so incredibly jittery this year, for worse than 2013 or 2014.

milkman 10-14-2015 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11802475)
I wonder if that spleen injury has just completely ****ed his confidence up. He looks so incredibly jittery this year, for worse than 2013 or 2014.

He does seem to be more timid now.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-14-2015 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 11801334)
I think we're all pretty much in agreement on steps 1-3 of the OP. I'm going to differ right now with the OP on step 4. Playing Daniel proves nothing, so let's see what we have in Murray. If he sucks, draft a QB. If he doesn't, let's not waste a 1st on what appears to be a pretty weak QB class. Developmental QBs in the next draft can be had in later rounds.

I am not in agreement.

In any event, Reid will stubbornly play his boo, and I pray to God he does.

What Sacc is trying to do here is to salvage that which should not be salvaged. Band aids for bullet wounds, and I'm not having it.

Salvage operations get you Romeo Crennel's and more useless, unwanted time for Reid.

Listen up fat boy; you just keep doing your stubborn, predictable thing, and Sweet's will be right here watching you burn.

With glee.

Jamie 10-14-2015 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11801870)
That this franchise still doesn't have anyone who can evaluate QB talent...

For what it's worth, Dorsey was Green Bay's Director of College Scouting when they drafted Aaron Rodgers.


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